Novi korona virus - velika opasnost ili ne ? POGLEDATI PRVI POST!

[armin071]

Zdravlje je najbitnije! Zavariti sve ako treba!

Eh to to I sve antivaksere( sa dvije ili tri vakcine) zajedno sto ovim sto propituju ove mjere poslati na Goli Otok.... Pa nek tamo propituju....

[Trappist]

Danas 78 ljudi, puno brate.

Odakle 78 ? 56 pise na klixu.

[Sociolog]

Danas 78 ljudi, puno brate.

Odakle 78 ? 56 pise na klixu.

+ naknadno retroaktivno prijavljeni

[melb26sa]

@KraljicaIzJajca

novo za citanje:

https://metatron.substack.com/p/breaking-the-silence
Dr Dave Cartland MBChB GP BMedSci (Hons)

Mali dio odlicnog clanka:

Silence is deafening
Over the last few months something has become startlingly apparent in regard to the latest data from Omicron which didn’t seem to correlate with previous waves. I will say that from the outset, hence my discomfort with current policy in particular the Mandate of a medical treatment for staff.

It came about after I was asked to consider the booster (in English a third dose in 6 months of something I had twice in the recent past that gave me side effects and something I and probably no other Dr can say they have experienced before in their medical practice. A tri-6 monthly jab with speculation of even more… Flu Jab annually, Hep B jab lifelong, the ten yearly tetanus et al… something didn’t feel right. To take one (again) for the team or not?

The answer to this dilemma was simple. The ‘vaccine’ needed to confer both personal benefits i.e., if I take it my risk of being ill and even death would/should be reduced, likewise in the interest of being a good citizen and medic of the world that it would also reduce my ability to catch and likewise transmit to my relatives and patients (aside from evolving safety data which will discuss later).

I took a short look at the data from my own surgery (admittedly low numbers to try to spot a trend). We receive positive results as a batch each week and one of our ANP’s contacts them all to see how they are. At this point I will say that most of the positive results displayed mild flu like coryzal symptoms, evidence for me that we were dealing with a different beast in Omicron which was really great news.

I counted 102 ’cases’ of positives in the first two weeks results and traced their vaccine status… positive… treble vaccinated…positive treble vaccinated… positive treble vaccinated.

A pattern was apparent… Long story short in that 2 weeks 94.1 percent of the patients n= 96 of 102 were treble or double jabbed (mostly treble) and just the 2% n=2 unvaccinated.

I decided to repeat this the next week and this time 100% of the 38 patients were double or treble jabbed zero unvaccinated. This seemed odd and quite contrary to what I expected but had put some data to the gut feeling of what I was hearing of in clinic.

I decided at this time to see what was happening nationally using UK and Scotland gov.uk surveillance figures and was startled to find similar findings.

In one study initially looking at just positive cases in UK and over 100,000 dataset showed 89.7 percent positive results over a three-week period treble vaccinated v 3.7 % unvaccinated. Even in the knowledge that the lower proportion of unvaccinated as percentage of total population these percentages were too far apart.

A recent Scottish data set (weeks 1 and 2 of 2022) despite showing reduced outcomes in three different outcome categories the ratio of unvaccinated 28% to vaccinated 72% total Scottish populous. Roughly speaking, outcomes of the parameters of 1) positive test 2) admission to hospital and 3) death was seen to be represented by 80% of the total numbers in treble vaccinated status whereas only 20% were unvaccinated in proportion.

Why were people vaccinated for a disease and go on to die in a ratio of 4:1 from the disease they were trebly protected from!! Alarm bells ringing… again.

At this time, I committed time to fully researching whether the risks of a jab were proportionate to the risk of the disease. Networking with other medical professionals constrained by fear to not report observations or whistle blow, the sharing of papers, research data and individuals’ clinical concerns and anecdotal observations were forming a clear pattern and hypothesis.

Study after study, data set after data set seemed to come to the conclusion that the vaccinated group seemed to be at higher risks of catching covid despite full vaccination status and in the above data higher admission rates and death…

The decision was becoming clearer as to whether to take the jab #3. At this point I concluded the Jab wasn’t in any way reducing my chances of catching or spreading the virus in some cases increasing their risk (Will avoid commenting on Antibody dependent enhancement- ADE in this article here but coherent with this principle).

I was at this time being told that nasal carriage of the virus was much higher in the unvaccinated, but again this wasn’t bearing out in the cohort studies that I was seeing published. So, my conclusion was the Jab wasn’t (in my humble opinion) in anyone else’s interest so that only left the conference of personal safety from becoming seriously ill and its obvious major repercussions when it comes down to rationale to mandate a medical treatment.

This will be discussed later when I discuss medical ethics around consent and lack thereof briefly.

Onda od penzionisane naucnice (BSc biohemija i PhD ljudska genetika): - ovo vuce veoma na Tomislav Domazet-Losinu prezentaciju...

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/a-r ... erns-about

Like most members of the public I was eagerly awaiting the vaccines. My husband and I probably had natural immunity but the vaccines seemed to be a miracle. When they first came out we were eager to get in line for our own chance to get vaccinated. I was not familiar with the mRNA technology so I began reading what I could find on it. What I read made me uneasy. Why introduce an mRNA vector into our own cells to force them to express the spike protein? The immune system can have a very strong response to fragments of antigens. why introduce this new technology? How were the quantities of antigen produced by the introduction of mRNA going to be controlled? What was to prevent a reverse transcriptase accidental insertion into the DNA if there was coinfection with another virus or just some of the other weird things that happen in cells.

These are very rare but if you vaccinate millions of people you are going to get some very rare incidents. The literature I read assured me that any expressed spike protein would remain in the membrane of the cells involved but having a strong understanding of the enzyme mutations of genetic storage disease, I was dubious. There are multiple enzymes out there and some of them are not very specific. What if the spike protein was clipped by one of them and began circulating? Also, if we had our own cells expelling a foreign antigen, what would happen if the immune system was accidentally primed to attack all the cell types expressing that foreign antigen? Gene therapy was still in its infancy and there have been some real unforeseen catastrophes including unexplained sudden death in test subjects because we simply don’t understand all the workings of the cell. “Safe and effective” felt a bit too glib. I just did not feel comfortable with this new mRNA therapy. I decided to read the Pfizer Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for an Unapproved Product Review Memorandum.

As I read the document I quite literally felt the hairs on the back of my neck rise. There were, in my opinion, red flags all over the study. I was specifically concerned about the following points. Pfizer reported four cases of Bell’s Palsy among the vaccinated but none among the controls. They stated that this rate of bell’s Palsy was within the normal rates that would occur in the population and was therefore not statistically significant nor a concern. It seems to me to be red flag indicating more study was required with a larger group. Since Bell’s Palsy is an infection related neurological phenomena it also seemed to me it would have been prudent to expand the study to a larger group before continuing population wide application. 40,000 would not be enough to pick up rare side effects. The study should also have been longer. Two months is just not long enough to pick up longer term adverse effects. I assumed since this was an emergency authorization there would be ongoing safety monitoring.

The first real red flag can be found in Table 2, page 18. There were 311 cases excluded for protocol deviations. only 60 placebos were excluded. Fives times as many cases had been excluded. Those two numbers should have been the same. Why were five times as many cases excluded as controls for protocol deviation? I recall thinking at the time ‘What was the protocol deviation? Did they die?”

My second concern was Table 4 (page 20) showing demographics of the study participants. Although the disease primarily effects older individuals most of the study participants (79%) were under the age of 65. Since those under 65 are unlikely to have severe disease and were reportedly often having near to asymptomatic reactions on encountering the virus, it seemed to me many infections could potentially be missed which would skew the results in favour of the vaccine.

My third concern was the possibility of antibody dependent enhancement which is a common occurrence in past attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine. Pfizer only reported “nonclinical studies.” I have no idea what “non clinical studies” means and no numbers of test subjects among mice or Rhesus money’s were given. Pfizer was reassured by this report. I was not. (page 46)

Efficacy of the vaccine was being reported at extremely high values (Table 8, page 25) but I could not find any data indicating confirmed infections rates for the population where the study took place. Thus, it would be impossible to know klix infection rates in the total population. This could mean Pfizer was quoting relative risk reduction not absolute risk reduction. If there was very low exposure in the study group, efficiency based on relative risk reduction could seem very high when in fact the results were not significant due to very low infection rates in the total population. Since the study was conducted during a period of lockdowns, limited interactions and ongoing infection control measures, I felt an klix infection rate for the entire population in which the study was being conducted from an independent source was warranted. I did not find it.

Most alarming to me was reports of a 36 year old male with no medical comorbidities who developed what appeared to be full blown COVID. The symptoms began on Day 2 after the second shot. Pfizer attributed this case to one of three causes, an adverse reaction to the vaccine, a false negative PCR test in someone infected with the virus, or another infectious process. A two day bout of another infectious process and a false negative PCR test seemed highly unlikely to me. Further, symptoms of suspected cases of COVID occurring in the vaccine group in days 1-7 happened twice as often as in the placebo group yet there appeared to be no PCR testing to confirm COVID. This report precisely matched my concerns about the possibility of the spike protein traveling outside the muscle area in larger than expected quantities causing the very disease it was supposed to prevent. An alternative explanation was the transient reduction in lymphocytes days 1-3 noted in Phase 1 which might mean a period of enhanced vulnerability to infection immediately after receiving the vaccine. It was based on this result I decided I was not satisfied with Pfizer’s safety data and I would not take the vaccine.

[Tesla Edison]

Zdravlje je najbitnije! Zavariti sve ako treba!

Eh to to I sve antivaksere( sa dvije ili tri vakcine) zajedno sto ovim sto propituju ove mjere poslati na Goli Otok.... Pa nek tamo propituju....

Tako je

[Trappist]

Ide jedan #slusajstruku komentar. Na jednoj strani imamo
-Krunoslava Capaka: docent, Medicinski fakultet Sveučilišta u Mostaru, specijalist epidemiologije i
subspecijalist zdravstvene ekologije, primarijus.
A sa druge strane imamo:
-Davor Bozinovic: hrvatski diplomat, političar, ministar unutarnjih poslova od 2017. Diplomirao, magistrirao i doktorirao na Fakultetu političkih znanosti Sveučilišta u Zagrebu u području međunarodnih odnosa i nacionalne sigurnosti.

Osoba pod 1, Capak, predlozi djelomicno ukidanje covid potvrda u Hrvatskoj, na sto dobije odgovor od osobe B: "Božinović demantirao Capaka: Covid potvrde ostaju, trenutno ne razmatramo ukidanje"

Naravno, posto je ovo epidemija virusa, trebamo poslusati osobu pod B, covjeka koji je zavrsio fakultet politickih znanosti

[KraljicaIzJajca]

@KraljicaIzJajca

novo za citanje:

https://metatron.substack.com/p/breaking-the-silence
Dr Dave Cartland MBChB GP BMedSci (Hons)
...

Auuu, nisu još stigli cenzurirati ih i oduzeti dozvolu za rad.

Da li sam dobro razumjela, osobe sa covidom19 ne mogu biti asimptomatične?

Hvala

[armin071]

[yt][/yt]

Odabrana djela ovog “našeg” stručnjaka čisto da ostane zapisano kada i ako ovo ludilo ikada prođe.. Da mu čovjek nacrta male brčiće ispod nosa sa ovim “umiljatim” pogledom činilo bi ga kompletnim stručnjakom….

[Trappist]

[yt][/yt]

Odabrana djela ovog “našeg” stručnjaka čisto da ostane zapisano kada i ako ovo ludilo ikada prođe.. Da mu čovjek nacrta male brčiće ispod nosa sa ovim “umiljatim” pogledom činilo bi ga kompletnim stručnjakom….

Kakvi su ovo kompleksasi, ovaj se egoista ne skida sa interneta, dnevno 2-3 intervjua da, i konstantno isto ponavlja levat. Sijac straha, idol daddy-u onom.

[salik79]

Vec sam dva puta postavljao, sve objasnio vodja izraelskih krezubih ravnozemljasa i piljara, prof. dr. Ehud Qimron, ali se niko od msm ni udostojio nije prenijeti sta on veli.

Ali, kada ova gospoda i strucnjaci nesto izjave dodje do msm kakofonije.

Trevor Noah, Nadal, Federer? Po cemu su oni relevantni? Ti bas neke lose droge koristis…

Sva trojica zestoki zagovornici vakcinacije, takoreci promotori...

Da ne duljim, citat jednog od javnih nastupa Trevora Noaha, po pitanju mandatorne genske terapije:

“Say what you want about Biden, he’s not messing around,” said Noah. “And if you ask me, it’s actually smart of Biden to do this mandate through people’s employers. It’s not the government coming for you, it’s your employer.

Ako se ti drogiras to ne implicira da se, automatski, svi drogiraju.

[GandalfSivi]

Nije bolest sve sto boli. Vidjeti neprijatelje u sportistima i komicarima. Dobro su te mule naucile...

[salik79]

Nije bolest sve sto boli. Vidjeti neprijatelje u sportistima i komicarima. Dobro su te mule naucile...

Sportisti, poznati komicari, glumci, selebritiji su vrsni promotori, advertajzeri, bilo cega, pa tako i vakcinacije. To su te tvoji korporokrati prvo trebali nauciti.

[Bloo]

korporokrati

ha?

[88Sioux]

@Osmi Socrates

[salik79]

korporokrati

ha?

Pardon, korporatokrati...

[GandalfSivi]

Nije bolest sve sto boli. Vidjeti neprijatelje u sportistima i komicarima. Dobro su te mule naucile...

Sportisti, poznati komicari, glumci, selebritiji su vrsni promotori, advertajzeri, bilo cega, pa tako i vakcinacije. To su te tvoji korporokrati prvo trebali nauciti.

Ti i ja smo civilizacijski jedno 12 vjekova razlike. Ne mogu fakat sa ostatcima mracnog doba raspravljati. Nevjerovatno je kakvih likova ovdje ima, da im je malo vlasti, pola bi nas po banderama vjesali...

[salik79]

Sportisti, poznati komicari, glumci, selebritiji su vrsni promotori, advertajzeri, bilo cega, pa tako i vakcinacije. To su te tvoji korporokrati prvo trebali nauciti.

Ti i ja smo civilizacijski jedno 12 vjekova razlike. Ne mogu fakat sa ostatcima mracnog doba raspravljati. Nevjerovatno je kakvih likova ovdje ima, da im je malo vlasti, pola bi nas po banderama vjesali...

Hvala Bogu da je tako.

[salik79]

@Osmi Socrates

[salik79]

Koronasko-korporatokratski sadizam nad najmladjima:



Uciti pokornosti od najmladjih dana...Bez suvisnih pitanja.

[Bloo]

Uciti pokornosti od najmladjih dana...Bez suvisnih pitanja.

Ta izjava je jako komična kada dolazi iz usta jednog vjernika.

[cassius]

[yt][/yt]

Odabrana djela ovog “našeg” stručnjaka čisto da ostane zapisano kada i ako ovo ludilo ikada prođe.. Da mu čovjek nacrta male brčiće ispod nosa sa ovim “umiljatim” pogledom činilo bi ga kompletnim stručnjakom….

Klasika. Takvi su i ovi po forumu isti.

Hoce li odgovarat za ove svoje izjave ? Hoce, ali malo sutra.

[salik79]

Uciti pokornosti od najmladjih dana...Bez suvisnih pitanja.

Ta izjava je jako komična kada dolazi iz usta jednog vjernika.

Mozda tebi. Ja sve propitujem.

[Trappist]

Sportisti, poznati komicari, glumci, selebritiji su vrsni promotori, advertajzeri, bilo cega, pa tako i vakcinacije. To su te tvoji korporokrati prvo trebali nauciti.

Ti i ja smo civilizacijski jedno 12 vjekova razlike. Ne mogu fakat sa ostatcima mracnog doba raspravljati. Nevjerovatno je kakvih likova ovdje ima, da im je malo vlasti, pola bi nas po banderama vjesali...

Ja koliko sam svojim ocima vidio gora je druga strana priče prije bi ti "drugi" ljude vješali po banderama jer nisu vakcinisani i jer ne nose maske. Bilo je na ovom forumu ljudi koji su napadali druge jer su hodali vilsonovim u aprilu 2020.

[Tesla Edison]

hodali vilsonovim u aprilu 2020.

To su bioteroristi.

Zdravlje je najbitnije

[GandalfSivi]

Ti i ja smo civilizacijski jedno 12 vjekova razlike. Ne mogu fakat sa ostatcima mracnog doba raspravljati. Nevjerovatno je kakvih likova ovdje ima, da im je malo vlasti, pola bi nas po banderama vjesali...

Ja koliko sam svojim ocima vidio gora je druga strana priče prije bi ti "drugi" ljude vješali po banderama jer nisu vakcinisani i jer ne nose maske. Bilo je na ovom forumu ljudi koji su napadali druge jer su hodali vilsonovim u aprilu 2020.

De ba svega ti…