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salik79 wrote: ↑05/05/2020 00:36

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑04/05/2020 23:37

salik79 wrote: ↑04/05/2020 23:00 Bitno je da obratis paznju na ovo podebljano, a to je izjava CDC zvanicnika.

Expected - ocekivano.

EDIT: Da ne pisem dodatnio jos jedan post - ocekivano ne znaci garantovano. Kako, zasto i kada je nebitno.
Naveo si podatak za koji sam te ispravio i naveo zvanicnu statistiku koja tako tvrdi. Nema potrebe da se dalje raspravljamo jer rasrpava jedino moze voditi u pravcu teorija o namjestanju rezultata. U kom slucaju nikakvi rezultati te agencije ne mogu biti validni.

Nisam ni sumnjao da tebi u tome nema nista sporno, bas kao ni u dijelu "But they said it is not expected to go down.".

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑05/05/2020 00:56

salik79 wrote: ↑05/05/2020 00:36

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑04/05/2020 23:37

Expected - ocekivano.

EDIT: Da ne pisem dodatnio jos jedan post - ocekivano ne znaci garantovano. Kako, zasto i kada je nebitno.
Naveo si podatak za koji sam te ispravio i naveo zvanicnu statistiku koja tako tvrdi. Nema potrebe da se dalje raspravljamo jer rasrpava jedino moze voditi u pravcu teorija o namjestanju rezultata. U kom slucaju nikakvi rezultati te agencije ne mogu biti validni.

Nisam ni sumnjao da tebi u tome nema nista sporno, bas kao ni u dijelu "But they said it is not expected to go down.".

Covjek bi rekao kad su toliko sposobni da laziraju podatke mogli su izbrisati i tu recenicu.

Prica nema veze s Covidom.

cvrčak_na_hedonizmu wrote: ↑05/05/2020 00:10 Ali su bacali takve gafove za Englesku da je katastrofa bila, a u totalu ( pricam o Januar - April 2020 ) 2018 bila gora, zakljucno sa 25 Aprilom, tu negdje.

Zato kazem, sve ovo se moze pogledati kada konacne cifre izadju. Meni lici na opasno napuhavanje ( konkretno Ameri, bolnice mnogo vise naplacuju za Covid nego ako nije ), ali to se moze vidjeti/dokazati/demantovati kada budemo imali totale tipa od Januara do Aprila 2020 pa da se protabiri kako treba. Sve ostalo je, po meni, nagadjanje.

salik79 wrote: ↑05/05/2020 01:03
Inace, detalji im ne promaknu...

Vele lijepo da je moguce ocekivati lagano povecanje broja zrtava gripe, a nikakvo smanjenje (a, eto i da je i smanjenje), a ovamo smanje za 20000. Bilo za ocekivati, logika,...

Can you explain why the estimates on this page are different from previously published and reported estimates for 2017-2018? (For example, total flu-related deaths during 2017-2018 was previously estimated to be 79,000, but the current estimate is 61,000)?

The estimates on this page have been updated from an earlier report published in December 2018 based on more recently available information. There is a trade-off between timeliness and accuracy of the burden estimates. To provide timely burden estimates to the public, clinicians, and public health decision-makers, we use preliminary data that may lead to over- or under-estimates of the true burden. However, each season’s estimates will be finalized when data on testing practices and deaths for that season are available.

For the revised 2017-2018 estimates, we included additional information in our estimation regarding influenza testing practices. The surveillance system used to estimate influenza-related hospitalizations, FluSurv-NET, collects data on patients hospitalized with laboratory-confirmed influenza. Influenza testing is done at the request of the clinician, but not everyone is tested and influenza tests are not perfectly accurate. Thus, the reports of laboratory-confirmed influenza-related hospitalizations to FluSurv-NET are likely underestimates of the true number of hospitalizations. To adjust for this, CDC collects data annually from participating FluSurv-NET sites on the amount of influenza testing and the type of test that is used at the site, and this information is used to correct for the possible underestimate of influenza-related hospitalizations. These testing data are often not available for up to two years after the end of an influenza season, and thus the estimates are revised when additional testing data become available. For the original preliminary 2017-2018 burden estimates, data on testing practices during the 2014-2015 season were used to make preliminary estimates because this season had the highest levels of testing among the prior seasons for which data were available and resulted in the most conservative (lowest) estimates of burden. More recent data from the 2016-17 season show that influenza testing has been increasing among most age groups. The current estimates were made using the highest testing rate for each age-group during 2010-11 to 2016-17 and has resulted in some burden estimates being lower than previously estimated.

Additionally, the method we use to estimate influenza-associated deaths relies on additional data from FluSurv-NET and the National Center for Health Statistics (data on cause of deaths and numbers of deaths that occur in versus outside the hospital) that are also not available for up to two years after the end of the season being estimated.

The 2017-2018 estimates are still preliminary because not all of the required data are currently available. When those data become available, these estimates will be updated again and the results may change.

The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths

freelancerBIH wrote: ↑04/05/2020 22:13

piupiu wrote: ↑04/05/2020 22:10

freelancerBIH wrote: ↑04/05/2020 22:07 Kako vrijeme odmice i kako ove "teorije zavjere" da je virus dosao iz laboratorije postaju sve vise istinite - i ako je virus zaista modifikovan tj. sinteticki - pretpostavljam da ili ce jako brzo izgubiti ove komponente koje su ljudi dodali - pa mutirati nazad u originalnu verziju - koja se najvjerovatnije jako tesko prenosi sa covjeka na covjeka - ili nas vec toliko veliki procenat zarazio po Evropi i Americi da uskoro nece vise imati koga zaraziti vise....

Sve su prilike nadam se da ce se ovo uskoro zavrsiti...

Istinite u fazonu 'Weapons of Mass Destruction', haj'mo skršit' Irak, ili naučnici mijenjaju mišljenje?

Ne znam vidjet cemo sta je posrijedi

salik79 wrote: ↑05/05/2020 01:14 Nisam ni sumnjao da "postoji objasnjenje", sto ce reci da su se sami sebi istovarili u usta...Helem, nejse.

mali Ninja wrote: ↑04/05/2020 23:34 Ko smije prvi priznati da su svijet pravili budalama par mjeseci?

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑05/05/2020 01:06

cvrčak_na_hedonizmu wrote: ↑05/05/2020 00:10 Ali su bacali takve gafove za Englesku da je katastrofa bila, a u totalu ( pricam o Januar - April 2020 ) 2018 bila gora, zakljucno sa 25 Aprilom, tu negdje.

Zato kazem, sve ovo se moze pogledati kada konacne cifre izadju. Meni lici na opasno napuhavanje ( konkretno Ameri, bolnice mnogo vise naplacuju za Covid nego ako nije ), ali to se moze vidjeti/dokazati/demantovati kada budemo imali totale tipa od Januara do Aprila 2020 pa da se protabiri kako treba. Sve ostalo je, po meni, nagadjanje.

Debelo se varas. Bolnice gube pare. OGROMNE pare. Ovo izravno licno iz usta jednog od vodecih ljudi koji se bavi health care managementom i konsaltingom vodecih ustanova u Americi.

Sve elective surgeries su na stand by (znaci tipa vjestacko koljeno i sl), a i svi studenti su na stand by (jer ne mozes praksu studirat preko interneta). Nisu bolnice samo New Yorku. Neki dan sam bas pricao s njim, mescini da je pricao o MD Anderson jer znam da su mu oni najveci klijent, nesto ovako gube 1/3 revenues za vrijeme Corone.

kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote: ↑05/05/2020 08:56 https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/na-k ... /200505008

mali Ninja wrote: ↑04/05/2020 23:34 Ko smije prvi priznati da su svijet pravili budalama par mjeseci?

sinuhe wrote: ↑05/05/2020 09:16 Znaci kruzi i Evropom pola godine. Dok nisu poceli umirati u starackim domovima nije se ni znalo.

freelancerBIH wrote: ↑04/05/2020 22:35

armin071 wrote: ↑04/05/2020 22:29

L u c i f e r wrote: ↑04/05/2020 22:21 "Veliki korona-dernek u Sarajevu: Uz ministra Košarca pjevaju Šerif Konjević, Koke, Halid Bešlić, Hari Mata Hari…"

A ti narode nosi brnjice i rukavice

Sad htjedoh reci... Ne mogu da vjerujem, od Fikre malinara, Dilfasa masinovodje, Ridjobradog, drzavnih ministara...

Hajd sve ove pjevaljke razumijem - to nema grama u mozgu... ali bokte Nihad Fejzic tu - dekan veterinarskog fakulteta - covjek koji bi u najmanju ruku trebao IMATI predstavu o kakvom se virusu radi - ako iko zna - on bi trebao znati jel smrtonosan ili nije ... Ali ne, evo i njega tu je - tulumari i partija...

Jesmo li svi ispali budaletine ?

laik1981 wrote: ↑05/05/2020 09:04

mali Ninja wrote: ↑04/05/2020 23:34 Ko smije prvi priznati da su svijet pravili budalama par mjeseci?

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/preo ... /200505015

A kod nas je garant prisutna od onog dana kada je objavljen prvi pozitivan test .. Jes malo morgen.. Bog zna koliko nas je ovo prebolovalo prije uvodjenja bilo kakvih mjera.. Bog zna koliko je "klastera" bilo prije nego smo poceli brojati..

Diwan wrote: ↑05/05/2020 10:41 A jesu se ljudi primili na ovu kurtonu. I dalje raspravljaju

Can't believe it!