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Naravno, od starta je rečeno da neće biti nukica

[Toffee karamela]

Kakav je ovo debakl Izraela to je prosto nevjerovatno. Sad ce sami ne skinuti nego ubiti Netanjahua. Ono sto je najgore po njih jeste sto su izgubili odrman uticaj koji su imali u USA. Ono sto se desava trenutno u americkom javnom prostoru nikada se nije desavalo, ogroman broj mladih politicara ce svoju kampanju graditi na antiizraelskom raspolozenju. Iran je opstao i prezivio, gubici su sigurno ogromni ali je jasno da je ovo za njih ogromna pobjeda.

najveća pobjeda se sastoji u tome što više nikome neće dozvoliti da im tura nos u postrojenja za sklapanje atomki

davno završeno vrijeme i sklepaće je u roku od 10 dana i izvršit probu na nekom atolu

Kim Jong Un i njegova nasljednica će vjerovatno pratiti iz prvog safa

[Bobi]

@Dozer ako te kakva strana obavjestajna služba zarobi reci im da nas ne poznaješ .

[no_sekirli]

S obzirom da je početna pozicija Epstein koalicije bila da će za dva-tri dana malo bombarodvanja ovi njihovi kojima su dostavili oružije preuzeti vlast sve ovo se može smatrati kao taktička pobjeda Irana jer ništa od početnih ciljeva cionisti i pedofili nisu ostvarili. Slično kao partizani na sutjesci, Nijemci odnijeli pobjedu jer pobili masu partizana ali taktička pobjeda je partizanska jer Nijemci nisu ostvarili plan uništenja partizana, zarobljavanja Tita i štaba, isto tako danas i Iran. Infrastruktura će se obnoviti, za 4-5 godina siguran sam 80% će sve biti sređeno, barem što se tiče civilne infrastrukture, pogotovo ovo oko nafte.

Ta početna pozicija i plan je bio tako šupalj, da ni dijete od 15 godina u to nije vjerovalo. Čuj da 10ak ili 20ak hiljada Kurda uz nešto mosadovih špijuna sruše vlast u državi od 90 miliona. Ma niđe veze.

Ja uopće ne tvrdim da je US-Izrael koalicija pobijedila, daleko od toga. Ali tvrdim da Iran sigurno nije pobijedio. Taktička pobjeda u kojoj ti je srušen dobar postotak insfrastrukure od koje si živio, po meni, i nije baš neka pobjeda.

Znam samo da smo mi poraženi, jer su nam sjebali ekonomije i egzistenciju. Tko je pobijedio, neka se bave neki analitičari za 50 godina, ili da odmah pitamo neki LLM model

Tokom prošlogodišnjeg bombardovanja Irana pozivali su protestante u Iranu da sruše vlast. Prije samih ovogodišnjih napada Trump i Netanjahu su pozivali Irance da sruše vlast, suosjećali sa narodom Irana i hvalili proteste kao izraz podrške Trumpu i onommazlumu Pehlevaniju kako li se zove jebaji ga. Govorili su "samo što nije" smjena vlasti i cijeli Iran čeka Trumpa. Ne, nikakvi Kurdi, Kurdi tek kasnije dolaze u opciju kao mogućnost za snage kopnenog napada, u toj fazi Kurde nisu spominjali već baš protestante kojima kako su i sami priznali dostavljali oružije. Pobjede u ratovima vrlo često nisu crno-bijele pa tako ni u ovom ratu za koji ne znamo da li je samo primirje ili će biti dugotrajan prekid rata. Dakle činjenica je da cionisti i Trump režim nije ostvario zacrtane početne ciljeve. Nije srušen režim, nisu uzeli obogačeni uranijum, nisu umanjili sposobnost Irana razvoja raketa i raketnog programa. Iranu je polupano sve živo ali tako je to u ratu. Izraelu je dosta toga također polupano plus unazađene rafinerije i infrastruktura u regionu za 30 godina. Novi fakt na terenu je da Hormuz kontrolišu Iranci a prije napada nisu. Dakle čista taktička pobjeda Irana. Pedofili i cionisti su pobili i srušili mnogo i tu su neprikosnoveni, priznajem.

Mi smo samo vidjeli listu zahtjeva ili želja Irana vezano za primirje/mir. Među kojima je naplata tjesnaca.

Pitanje je šta će se na kraju ispregovarati, ako uopće do konkretnih pregovora dođe i pitanje je da li će npr. Kramp reći da će i njegova "nadnaravna vojna armada" (čiji će posrednik biti Trump inc.) sudjelovati u nekakvom tobožnjem osiguranju prolaska i imati neki dio tih mogućih prihoda. To o uranu, imaju li Irance, ili ne, koliko imaju ili nemaju, jesu li ima centrifuge zatrpane ili ne je sve na dugom štapu u zoni ŠBBKBB.

Nafta i plin su ovdje glavni cilj USa, dok Izrael ima svoju posebnu agendu.

[bh.tornjak]

nista tu nije gotovo….cerat ce se jos…
ima tu jos rezima koji cekaju na smjenu…samo im jos niko nije javio

[dječak sa šibicama]

Ja cekam da kosooki krenu na Tajvan, onda ce i brokula otici na 12 km mada zbog toga niko nece zaliti.

[swanfilter]

ovaj ljubitelj Hansa Kristijana Andersena ko da je u mračnoj ćoši očekivao uništenje Irana pa sad presvrno od razočaranja

čuj ti kako ono secira ratnu taktiku i posljedice ovog onog ko da se rodio na West Pointu

Ne spominje vise potlaceni narod Irana koji samo sto nije makeo mrski mulanski rezim.

[ljubijankic]

Malo će i nezaposlenost porasti u BiH nakon ovog primirja. Par forumasa će 15tak dana na čekanje

[Dozer]

@no_sekirli
Da ne kopiram te ekstrakte i cupanje iz konteksta, i naduravanje iz vrtica, samo cu "reci" -

[swanfilter]

Ja cekam da kosooki krenu na Tajvan, onda ce i brokula otici na 12 km mada zbog toga niko nece zaliti.

Opet trcanje pred rudu. Polako, prvo Krim i istok Ukr. Onda da Irance oslobodite okova. Pa cemo do tajvanskih plaza.

[Bobi]

Ja cekam da kosooki krenu na Tajvan, onda ce i brokula otici na 12 km mada zbog toga niko nece zaliti.

Pa i sad je 12 KM .

[no_sekirli]

@no_sekirli
Da ne kopiram te ekstrakte i cupanje iz konteksta, samo cu "reci" -

Sve što sam slagao u svom postu, ti slobodno naglasi ili ako nešto od ovoga ti nisi napisao.

Ja se nemam problema izvinuti ako sam nešto krivo rekao ili prenio.

[dječak sa šibicama]

Ja cekam da kosooki krenu na Tajvan, onda ce i brokula otici na 12 km mada zbog toga niko nece zaliti.

Pa i sad je 12 KM .

Dobro necemo sad u detalje

[skrbavi-admin]

@no_sekirli
Da ne kopiram te ekstrakte i cupanje iz konteksta, samo cu "reci" -

Sve što sam slagao u svom postu, ti slobodno naglasi ili ako nešto od ovoga ti nisi napisao.

Ja se nemam problema izvinuti ako sam nešto krivo rekao ili prenio.

nebi ja da budem iciji adjutant al je kod tebe prisutan nevidjen animozitet kod coeka koji podosta vlada materijom i ratnim iskustvom koji ocito umije i sa ljudima i sa zivotom i parama pa ti je onako slobodoumno da kaem - krivina.....

scenario sa atomskom bojevom glavom je prije 24 sata bio sasvim jasno naznacen svima na svijetu samo lik sa Vraca je znao da Zutalj blefira, hoce-nece.....

coek jos ljubazan prema tebi da mu se skines sa grbe....

[no_sekirli]

@no_sekirli
Da ne kopiram te ekstrakte i cupanje iz konteksta, samo cu "reci" -

Sve što sam slagao u svom postu, ti slobodno naglasi ili ako nešto od ovoga ti nisi napisao.

Ja se nemam problema izvinuti ako sam nešto krivo rekao ili prenio.

nebi ja da budem iciji adjutant al je kod tebe prisutan nevidjen animozitet kod coeka koji podosta vlada materijom i ratnim iskustvom koji ocito umije i sa ljudima i sa zivotom i parama pa ti je onako slobodoumno da kaem - krivina.....

scenario sa atomskom bojevom glavom je prije 24 sata bio sasvim jasno naznacen svima na svijetu samo lik sa Vraca je znao da Zutalj blefira, hoce-nece.....

coek jos ljubazan prema tebi da mu se skines sa grbe....

Ako nisi primijetio, apsolutno se nigdje ne spori njegov ratni put, novac niti bilo šta drugo što si ti napisao. Niti to veze ima sa upisima na koje se ja referiram.

A naročito nema animoziteta na bilo kojoj razini, osim upisa u kojima govori da su njegove analize tačne. Kao što vidimo, nisu.

Jesi li ti nečiji advokat ili ne, to nije moj problem.

[omar little]

Early on Wednesday, Iran's Supreme National Security Council Statement issued a statement on the ceasefire. Here is the text in full:

"The enemy, in its cowardly, illegal, and criminal war against the Iranian nation, has suffered an undeniable, historical, and crushing defeat. By the grace of the pure and holy blood of the Martyred Leader of the Islamic Revolution, His Eminence Grand Ayatollah Imam Khamenei (Peace be upon him), the prudent measures of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution and Commander-in-Chief, His Eminence Ayatollah Seyyed Mojtaba Khamenei (May God protect him), and the struggle and bravery of the warriors of Islam on the fronts—especially the historical, lasting, and heroic presence of you, the dear nation, on the scene since the very first days of the war—Iran has achieved a massive victory and forced criminal America to accept its 10-point plan.

In this plan, America is fundamentally committed to guaranteeing non-aggression, the continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz, the acceptance of enrichment, the lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions, the termination of all resolutions of the Security Council and the Board of Governors, the payment of Iran’s damages, the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region, and the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the heroic Islamic Resistance of Lebanon.

We congratulate all the people of Iran on this victory and emphasise that until the details of this victory are finalised, there remains a need for the steadfastness and prudence of officials and the maintenance of unity and solidarity among the Iranian people.

Islamic Iran, along with the brave mujahideen of the Resistance in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, and occupied Palestine, has dealt blows to the enemy over the past 40 days that the global historical memory will never forget. Iran and the Axis of Resistance, as representatives of honour and humanity against the most savage enemies of mankind, have given them an unforgettable lesson after a historical battle.

They have so crushed their forces, facilities, infrastructure, and all their political, economic, technological, and military assets that the enemy is now plunged into collapse and desperation, seeing no path before it other than surrender to the will of the great nation of Iran and the honourable Axis of Resistance.

On the first day, when the criminal enemies of Iran began this oppressive war, they imagined they would succeed in complete military dominance over Iran in a short time and force Iran to surrender by creating political and social instability. They thought Iran’s missile and drone fire would be quickly extinguished and did not believe that Iran could deliver such a powerful response beyond its borders and across the entire region.

Global evil Zionism had convinced the ignorant President of America that this war would finish Iran, allowing them—after removing this last bastion of humanity and mankind—to comfortably commit any crime against anyone they wished from then on. They dreamed of partitioning dear Iran, plundering its oil and wealth, and ultimately leaving Iranians immersed in chaos, instability, and insecurity for many long years.

The brave warriors of Islam and their courageous allies in the Axis of Resistance, despite their hearts being wounded and torn by the martyrdom of their Imam, decided—relying on Almighty God and following the Lord and Master of Martyrs—to give these enemies a historical lesson once and for all. They chose to take revenge for all previous crimes and create conditions where the enemy would forever cast away the thought of aggression against dear Iran, fully tasting the flavour of humiliation and abasement before the great nation of Iran.

With this strategy and relying on the unprecedented political and social unity established within the country, Iran and the Resistance initiated one of the heaviest hybrid battles in history against America and the Zionist regime, achieving all the objectives designed for this conflict during this period.

Iran and the Resistance almost completely destroyed the American military machine in the region; they dealt crushing and profound blows to the vast infrastructure and facilities that the enemy had built and stationed around the region over the years for this war against Iran. In regional dimensions, they imposed extensive casualties on the criminal American army, and within the occupied territories, they delivered heavy and shattering blows to the enemy’s forces, infrastructure, facilities, and assets.

They so constrained the field on all fronts that not only were none of the enemy’s main objectives realised, but the enemy realised approximately 10 days after the start of the war that it would in no way have the capability to win this war. For this reason, it began attempting to establish contact with Iran and requesting a ceasefire through various channels and methods.

The honourable nation of Iran must know that, by the grace of their children’s struggle and their historic presence on the scene, the enemy has been pleading for over a month for the cessation of the fierce fire of Iran and the Resistance. However, the country’s officials—because it had been decided from the very beginning that the war would continue until objectives were achieved, including the enemy’s regret and desperation and the removal of long-term threats from the country—gave a negative response to all these requests, and the war continued until today, which is the fortieth day.

Furthermore, Iran has so far rejected several deadlines presented by the President of the United States and continues to emphasise that it grants no importance to any type of deadline from the enemy.

We now give tidings to the great nation of Iran that almost all war objectives have been realized and your brave children have driven the enemy to a historic helplessness and a lasting defeat. Iran’s historic decision, backed by the unified support of the entire nation, is to continue this battle for as long as necessary until its massive achievements are consolidated and new security and political equations are created in the region based on the acceptance of the power and sovereignty of Iran and the Resistance.

In this regard, and according to the prudence of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution, His Eminence Ayatollah Seyyed Mojtaba Khamenei (May God protect him), and the approval of the Supreme National Security Council—and considering Iran and the Resistance’s upper hand in the battlefield, the enemy’s inability to carry out its threats despite all claims, and the formal acceptance of all the rightful demands of the Iranian people—it was decided that negotiations be held in Islamabad to finalise the details. This is so that within a maximum of 15 days, with the finalisation of details, Iran’s victory on the field shall also be consolidated in political negotiations.

To this end, while rejecting all plans presented by the enemy, Iran drafted a 10-point plan and presented it to the American side via the country of Pakistan. It emphasized fundamental points such as controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with Iran’s armed forces (which grants Iran a unique economic and geopolitical position), the necessity of ending the war against all components of the Axis of Resistance (which signifies a historic defeat for the aggression of the child-killing Israeli regime), the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region, the establishment of a secure transit protocol in the Strait of Hormuz such that it guarantees Iranian dominance according to the agreed protocol, the full payment of Iran’s damages according to estimates, the removal of all primary and secondary sanctions and resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, the release of all blocked Iranian properties and assets abroad, and finally, the approval of all these items in a binding Security Council resolution. It is worth noting that the approval of this resolution will turn all these agreements into binding international law and will create an important diplomatic victory for the nation of Iran.

Now, the honourable Prime Minister of Pakistan has informed Iran that the American side, despite all outward threats, has accepted these principles as the basis for negotiations and has surrendered to the will of the Iranian nation. Accordingly, at the highest level, it has been decided that Iran will engage in negotiations in Islamabad with the American side for a period of two weeks, based solely on these principles. It is emphasised that this does not mean the end of the war; Iran will only accept the termination of the war once the details—given the acceptance of Iran’s preferred principles in the 10-point plan—are finalised in the negotiations.

These negotiations will begin in Islamabad on Friday, April 10 (21 Farvardin), with complete distrust of the American side, and Iran will allocate two weeks for these talks. This timeframe is extendable by mutual agreement. It is essential that during this period, complete national unity be maintained and victory celebrations continue with strength.

The current negotiations are national negotiations and a continuation of the battlefield; it is necessary for all people, elites, and political groups to trust and support this process, which is under the supervision of the Leader of the Revolution and the highest levels of the system, and to strictly avoid any divisive comments.

If the enemy’s surrender on the battlefield is transformed into a decisive political achievement in the negotiations, we will celebrate this massive historical victory together; otherwise, we will fight side-by-side on the battlefield until all the demands of the Iranian nation are met. Our hands are on the trigger, and the moment the slightest error is committed by the enemy, it will be responded to with full power."

[skrbavi-admin]

Jesi li ti nečiji advokat ili ne, to nije moj problem.

ne bi ni ja dalje al obaska coeka ne podnosis.....

[Benjo34]

Po meni ovo primirje je poraz USA u ovoj rundi ali sam gotovo siguran da se ovo nastavlja. Vratili smo se na pocetak, ameri imaju svoje vidjenje sporazuma, iranci svoje. I svi tvrde da se radi onako kako oni zele.

Iranci ce u pregovore uci sa vecim prohtjevima jer nakon ovog je jasno da im vojno ne mogu nista. Oni nece pristati da se odreknu raketnog programa koji je po Izrael veca opasnost od nuklearnog oruzja.

Vrtit ce se sve vjerovatno dalje ovako u krug dok SAD ne nagomila dovoljno da udari kopneno. Treba pratiti letove i sta se doprema u regiju u narednim danima i bit ce svima jasno.

Ako ne pukne sve zbog Hezbollaha jer Izrael trenutno roka po Libanu zbog toga.

Ako su pametni na sastanke ce ici preko Zooma haha

[Toffee karamela]

nebi ja da budem iciji adjutant al je kod tebe prisutan nevidjen animozitet kod coeka koji podosta vlada materijom i ratnim iskustvom koji ocito umije i sa ljudima i sa zivotom i parama pa ti je onako slobodoumno da kaem - krivina.....

ote mi upis sa tastature

jedan od par ovdje koji ima vojno iskustvo i koliko toliko inteligentno rezonuje. atomske su svi bojali ali eto samo je on glup. uostalom ko se u jednom ratu opekao slaže u glavi najgore scenarije


koliki ti trud treba da multikvotaš onolike upise, ne bih da mi šef na poslu direktno naredi, radije bih presjekla kabal ispod stola i slagala da je net pao. ali nekome nije mrZko samo da ismije drugog forumaša

[Bosanski_kralj]

U Libanu udari. Ako se ovo nastavi, Iran će izdati Hezbollah.
Primirje mora važiti i za Liban

[alijagoro]

A sto se djecak navio

[no_sekirli]

Jesi li ti nečiji advokat ili ne, to nije moj problem.

ne bi ni ja dalje al obaska coeka ne podnosis.....

Ne bih se slozio s tobom, ali ne branim ti pravo da tako mislis

[alijagoro]

U Libanu udari. Ako se ovo nastavi, Iran će izdati Hezbollah.
Primirje mora važiti i za Liban

Ne mirise na dobro

[Bosanski_kralj]

U Libanu udari. Ako se ovo nastavi, Iran će izdati Hezbollah.
Primirje mora važiti i za Liban

Ne mirise na dobro

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