Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Da li razumijete zasto ljudi glasaju za Trumpa?

Poll ended at 06/10/2016 21:19

Razumijem
108
59%
Ne razumijem
68
37%
Ne zelim odgovorit
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Total votes: 184

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#30951 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Evo pišu da ga napuštaju influenseri, Rogan naprimjer... počeli kritikovati Trumpa.
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#30952 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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In the “normal” course of a stock market correction, we would expect to see bond prices going up as stock prices go down, as investors shuffle from one to the other. As bond prices go up, the yield (the effective interest rate) goes down. This tends to lower interest rates and ease pressure on businesses. This is the see-sawing, balancing effect of markets operating across assets. Again, it is painful, but it is good news. People take losses. But it suggests that the financial system is still working. As Katie Martin commented in the FT in the last few hours, this is the one to watch.

As the Wall Street Journal commented 10 minutes ago (I kid you not), the market is hard to read right now because longer term bond yields have to price in inflation, and Trump’s tariffs are clearly terrible for inflation. So right now we have safe-haven demand driving Treasury prices up (causing yields to come down) and inflation fear driving Treasury demand down (causing yields to go up). All of us are trying to read through the fog.
The world has reacted to Trump’s deliberate act of massive risk creation by sending the message that it will not buy US debt. The result is that the price of that debt is falling, and so the effective interest rate on it is rising very rapidly.

This is the exact opposite of what Trump says he wants. He says he wants the US interest rate to fall by a lot. In bond markets, you cannot achieve that by alienating the people who might buy your debt, and that is what he is doing.
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#30953 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Truba wrote: 09/04/2025 13:36
Quaresma wrote: 09/04/2025 10:53 Kao sto su podmetnuli koronu, ovo sto Trump radi jeste najvise da se nasteti ekonomiji republike srpske.
koronu je kina poslala a VHO i čpitav svijet je štitio
ako može španjolska gripa
zašto nije mogla kineska ili žuta gripa

zato što je kina pod posebnom protekcijom
kad treba platiti tu su siromašni i smotani
kad treba potplatiti ili izbjeći poreze tu su ekspretmno bogati
Ne bih očekivao od nekog poput tebe da vjeruje da je korona stvarno postojala :shock:
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#30954 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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ti si pun predrasuda da graničis s malicioznosti
čak sam ovdje opisivao svoj put korak po korak os skenderije do zetre kad sam išao na cepljenje i revakcinaciju kasnije
nisam ti ja kriv što si površan i dolaziš na forum svake prestupne pun predrasuda


forto-o-prijedlogu-kosarca-za-avaz-preuranjeno-je-jednostrano-ukinuti-carine-na-americke-proizvode

https://avaz.ba/vijesti/bih/966523/fort ... -proizvode

vidi našeg komunjare kako drobi
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#30955 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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statixx wrote: 09/04/2025 14:01
In the “normal” course of a stock market correction, we would expect to see bond prices going up as stock prices go down, as investors shuffle from one to the other. As bond prices go up, the yield (the effective interest rate) goes down. This tends to lower interest rates and ease pressure on businesses. This is the see-sawing, balancing effect of markets operating across assets. Again, it is painful, but it is good news. People take losses. But it suggests that the financial system is still working. As Katie Martin commented in the FT in the last few hours, this is the one to watch.

As the Wall Street Journal commented 10 minutes ago (I kid you not), the market is hard to read right now because longer term bond yields have to price in inflation, and Trump’s tariffs are clearly terrible for inflation. So right now we have safe-haven demand driving Treasury prices up (causing yields to come down) and inflation fear driving Treasury demand down (causing yields to go up). All of us are trying to read through the fog.
The world has reacted to Trump’s deliberate act of massive risk creation by sending the message that it will not buy US debt. The result is that the price of that debt is falling, and so the effective interest rate on it is rising very rapidly.

This is the exact opposite of what Trump says he wants. He says he wants the US interest rate to fall by a lot. In bond markets, you cannot achieve that by alienating the people who might buy your debt, and that is what he is doing.
sinoc u aziji neobicno aktivno u bond market. stizu margin calls izgleda.

jedno je piljkati po stock market, ali se ne zajebava sa bond market. to je golem belaj.
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#30956 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Osmi Socrates wrote: 09/04/2025 00:49 Apple je najgore puk'o dosad. I nema nikakve šanse da presele proizvodnju u Ameriku. I zbog potrebnog vremena i zbog troškova i zbog toga što im je čitav svijet tržište. Očekujemo stratešku odluku Applea.
Sjetim se, iz filma o Jobsu, kada je u USA tražio inžinjere za iPhone... rekli mu idi u Kinu. U Kinu otišao i rekao koliko mu inžinjera treba.

Sutri dan na olimpijskom stadionu 100.000 inžinjera i Jobs :mrgreen:
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#30957 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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drug_profi wrote: 09/04/2025 01:27
Osmi Socrates wrote: 09/04/2025 00:59 Ili ćete kopati ugalj. :lol:

Danas je genijalac potpisao izvršnu naredbu za oživljavanje industrije uglja. Kaže "kopači uglja hoće kopati ugalj". :lol:
Što meni odmah dade ideju da je dobro vrijeme da se pokrene opet izgradnja Bloka 7 Tuzla, i da se kupe Westinghaus i General Electrics oprema, time ispegla trgovinski deficit sa USA, popnes se koji stepenik vise u njihovoj agendi, napravi sebi kapacitete za sljedecih 50 godina.

Svi sretni.
Ali GE je rekao da nema više tih turbina, ili kako već.
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#30958 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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:bih:

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#30959 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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statixx wrote: 09/04/2025 10:12
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Osmi Socrates wrote: 09/04/2025 09:52 To je pomalo polovična slika čitavog problema vladinih obveznica između Kine i Amerike. Amerika svoje obaveze redovno ispunjava, plaćajući kamate na te obveznice. Doduše, ne garantiram da će Trump to nastaviti.

Sa druge strane, American Bondholders Foundation posjeduje obveznice kineske vlade, na koje Kina do dana današnjeg nije platila ništa. Ni dolara. I svi se američki predsjednici do danas ne sekiraju oko toga. Kao što rekoh, to ne garantiram za Trumpa. Vrijednost ovih obveznica je oko 1 trilion dolara.

Istina, to su obveznice od Republic of China, koju je komunistička Kina pravno naslijedila. Sličnu situaciju imali su Britanci. Margaret Thatcher nije dozvolila Kini pristup na britansko tržište dok CPC nije platila šta im duguje. Isto su trebali uraditi Amerikanci, ali nisu.

Uradiće Trump vjerovatno. I ispostaviće se na kraju da Kina više duguje Amerima nego obrnuto.
Pa neka prebiju, odnosno kompenziraju, preko americkih obveznica koje drzi Kina. Ne vidim kakve tarife imaju veze s tim i ostatak svijeta.
Može i trilateralna, multilateralna kompenzacija. Može i cesija, ali između kompanija.

Ovo raditi između država nema šanse.
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#30960 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Kinezi dug Americi mogu vratiti iz lijevog džepa.
Amerika Kini moze vratiti samo stampanjem triliona dolara. A to bi vodilo inflaciji kakvu svijet nije vidio
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#30961 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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omar little wrote: 09/04/2025 15:24
statixx wrote: 09/04/2025 14:01
In the “normal” course of a stock market correction, we would expect to see bond prices going up as stock prices go down, as investors shuffle from one to the other. As bond prices go up, the yield (the effective interest rate) goes down. This tends to lower interest rates and ease pressure on businesses. This is the see-sawing, balancing effect of markets operating across assets. Again, it is painful, but it is good news. People take losses. But it suggests that the financial system is still working. As Katie Martin commented in the FT in the last few hours, this is the one to watch.

As the Wall Street Journal commented 10 minutes ago (I kid you not), the market is hard to read right now because longer term bond yields have to price in inflation, and Trump’s tariffs are clearly terrible for inflation. So right now we have safe-haven demand driving Treasury prices up (causing yields to come down) and inflation fear driving Treasury demand down (causing yields to go up). All of us are trying to read through the fog.
The world has reacted to Trump’s deliberate act of massive risk creation by sending the message that it will not buy US debt. The result is that the price of that debt is falling, and so the effective interest rate on it is rising very rapidly.

This is the exact opposite of what Trump says he wants. He says he wants the US interest rate to fall by a lot. In bond markets, you cannot achieve that by alienating the people who might buy your debt, and that is what he is doing.
sinoc u aziji neobicno aktivno u bond market. stizu margin calls izgleda.

jedno je piljkati po stock market, ali se ne zajebava sa bond market. to je golem belaj.
Lik jednostavno izludjuje investitore. Nema te matematike koja moze izracunati prinos na postojece ili premiju na nove emisije drzavnih obveznica. Neizvjesnost, koja proizilazi iz njegove ekonomske politike i poteza poput one bizarne formule za izracun tarifa, je prevelika. Stopu inflacije je nemoguce priblizno predvidjeti itd. Ma haos.
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#30962 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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sime_cipol wrote: 09/04/2025 16:35 Kinezi dug Americi mogu vratiti iz lijevog džepa.
Amerika Kini moze vratiti samo stampanjem triliona dolara. A to bi vodilo inflaciji kakvu svijet nije vidio
Amerika ima rakete koje kina nema.
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#30963 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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apsidejzi wrote: 09/04/2025 16:38
sime_cipol wrote: 09/04/2025 16:35 Kinezi dug Americi mogu vratiti iz lijevog džepa.
Amerika Kini moze vratiti samo stampanjem triliona dolara. A to bi vodilo inflaciji kakvu svijet nije vidio
Amerika ima rakete koje kina nema.
Ne znam sta ko ima, ali znam da mi se dobit u fondu istopila ko sladoled :D
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#30964 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Truba wrote: 09/04/2025 14:45 ti si pun predrasuda da graničis s malicioznosti
Hm, hajd mogu razumijeti zašto ti smeta malicioznost, ali nije valjda da Trumpovom fanu smetaju predrasude? :-) E svašta...
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#30965 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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dr_Evil wrote: 09/04/2025 16:39
apsidejzi wrote: 09/04/2025 16:38
sime_cipol wrote: 09/04/2025 16:35 Kinezi dug Americi mogu vratiti iz lijevog džepa.
Amerika Kini moze vratiti samo stampanjem triliona dolara. A to bi vodilo inflaciji kakvu svijet nije vidio
Amerika ima rakete koje kina nema.
Ne znam sta ko ima, ali znam da mi se dobit u fondu istopila ko sladoled :D
Vecini je jbg. Ne diraj, vratice se. Zadnje tri godine profita su otisle u dim.
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#30966 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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cyprus wrote: 09/04/2025 16:41
Truba wrote: 09/04/2025 14:45 ti si pun predrasuda da graničis s malicioznosti
Hm, hajd mogu razumijeti zašto ti smeta malicioznost, ali nije valjda da Trumpovom fanu smetaju predrasude? :-) E svašta...
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#30967 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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omar little wrote: 09/04/2025 15:24 ...
Sad nesta kontam. Prvo vi Kanadjani (jer su vam izbori blizu), pa onda kasnije i Evropljani trebaju biti zahvalni za nasu zrtvu, jer smo jasno svijetu pokazali da se ne treba petljati sa ovim desnim budalama. Zahvaljujuci nama, ona vasa budala Poilievre gubi sanse za pobjedu, a realno mislim da ce i evropski surogati pratiti ga...

Sta sve necemo uraditi za svijet :D
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#30968 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Polako se gradi narativ oko Kine. Ovo sa tarifama nikada nije ni bilo u vezi tarifa. Uvijek je bila Kina.

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#30969 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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apsidejzi wrote: 09/04/2025 17:19 Polako se gradi narativ oko Kine. Ovo sa tarifama nikada nije ni bilo u vezi tarifa. Uvijek je bila Kina.

Da je bila Kina, pravile bi se jace koalicije sa ostatkom svijeta, jaci ekonomski savezi, nacini da se zaobidje Kina. Ovako se samo zaobilazi Amerika. Ali hajde, istrpio je forum i gore..
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#30970 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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apsidejzi wrote: 09/04/2025 17:19 Polako se gradi narativ oko Kine. Ovo sa tarifama nikada nije ni bilo u vezi tarifa. Uvijek je bila Kina.

kanadski kreten koji je zaljubljen u samog sebe :mrgreen:

pa on bi i volio da propadne sve, tarife upravo to i rade pa da udupla svoju imovinu

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#30971 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Zna znanje:

“BE COOL! Everything is going to work out well. The USA will be bigger and better than ever before!” Trump wrote on social media.

“THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!!” he added two minutes later, referring to the significant stock market selloff
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#30972 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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GandalfSivi wrote: 09/04/2025 17:12
omar little wrote: 09/04/2025 15:24 ...
Sad nesta kontam. Prvo vi Kanadjani (jer su vam izbori blizu), pa onda kasnije i Evropljani trebaju biti zahvalni za nasu zrtvu, jer smo jasno svijetu pokazali da se ne treba petljati sa ovim desnim budalama. Zahvaljujuci nama, ona vasa budala Poilievre gubi sanse za pobjedu, a realno mislim da ce i evropski surogati pratiti ga...

Sta sve necemo uraditi za svijet :D
ne baksuziraj. :D ima jos tri tjedna do izbora, polls are narrowing, svasta krcka u stanovnistvu, nista se jos ne zna. sad kad je uvidio da mu pretvaranje da je drzavnik, diplomata i vodja, ne pije vode i da ga niko tako ne percipira, millhouse se okrece svom prirodnom stanju kera. najobicniji lajavi, bijesan, ker. nadam se da ce mu se obiti o glavu.

izlaznost ce biti kljuc. ispitavanja javnog mijenja grijese, uvjerili smo se vise puta. pride sto jos ni debate nisu bile. u kanadskoj politickoj povijesti su se ova vodjstva desavala i prije i zavrsavala gubicima. ja se jedino nadam da ce kanadjani ostati vjerni sebi. inace sam u brizi.
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#30973 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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omar little wrote: 09/04/2025 18:44
GandalfSivi wrote: 09/04/2025 17:12
omar little wrote: 09/04/2025 15:24 ...
Sad nesta kontam. Prvo vi Kanadjani (jer su vam izbori blizu), pa onda kasnije i Evropljani trebaju biti zahvalni za nasu zrtvu, jer smo jasno svijetu pokazali da se ne treba petljati sa ovim desnim budalama. Zahvaljujuci nama, ona vasa budala Poilievre gubi sanse za pobjedu, a realno mislim da ce i evropski surogati pratiti ga...

Sta sve necemo uraditi za svijet :D
ne baksuziraj. :D ima jos tri tjedna do izbora, polls are narrowing, svasta krcka u stanovnistvu, nista se jos ne zna. sad kad je uvidio da mu pretvaranje da je drzavnik, diplomata i vodja, ne pije vode i da ga niko tako ne percipira, millhouse se okrece svom prirodnom stanju kera. najobicniji lajavi, bijesan, ker. nadam se da ce mu se obiti o glavu.

izlaznost ce biti kljuc. ispitavanja javnog mijenja grijese, uvjerili smo se vise puta. pride sto jos ni debate nisu bile. u kanadskoj politickoj povijesti su se ova vodjstva desavala i prije i zavrsavala gubicima. ja se jedino nadam da ce kanadjani ostati vjerni sebi. inace sam u brizi.
Dobar vam je ovaj novi, elokventan, obrazovan, dobro prica. Ne bi trebale debate biti problem...
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#30974 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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corolla02 wrote: 09/04/2025 03:31
drug_profi wrote: 08/04/2025 23:10 Image Image

hajmo opet novi krug ...
nisam zlurad uopšte... :mrgreen: sami su sebi krivi, sami su sebi (i nama) zakuhali, i na kraju treba da im se dešava...
ko prezivi ovu krizu, zlatnom ce kasikom kusati :oops:
:lol: da te nije Alija :D
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#30975 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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jeza u ledja wrote: 09/04/2025 10:17 Meni sega kad se pocnu traziti fantasticna objasnjenja za moronske poteze administracije. Ljudima je valjda i nakon 10 godina tesko shvatiti da iza svega ovoa ne postoji nikakav organizovani brain trust i smislen plan, vec obicni hostapleri koji reketesanjem zele napuniti svoje dzepove.
Lik i puni džepove
Oscilacijama na burzi
Da li svojom idejom ili uz pomoć likova koji žele brzu dobit nije važno
Oni koji znaju njegove poteze, a i on, će biti u plusu
Svaki tweet mijenja stanje i ne mislim da je to slučaj no
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