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#92001 Re: Ukrajina

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Russian mercenary Vladimir Andonov has been reportedly killed by a Russian sniper in Kharkiv, the second biggest city in Ukraine.


UBIO GA SNAJPER
Zloglasni Putinov krvnik likvidiran kod Harkiva, bio je poznat pod nadimkom ‘Dželat‘
U ruskoj invaziji na Ukrajinu odigrao je ključnu ulogu u masovnom strijeljanju ratnih zarobljenika i pogubljenju civila u Donbasu
Jedno govno manje.
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#92002 Re: Ukrajina

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Samo derite orkove, bagra fasisticka.
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#92003 Re: Ukrajina

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anelsol wrote: 07/06/2022 10:12 Naivno je misliti da se od toga odustalo. Sada su samo malo karte drugačije posložene.Iscrpljivanje se nastavlja do neke druge prilike. I poslje Dodika Dodik.
Naravno da se nije odustalo, niti ce se odustati. Ali Ukrajina je definitivno pokvarila te planove koji su se vec odvijali, i trebace godine da se opet sve poslozi (ako se rat u Ukrajini zavrsi kako ocekujem, a to je oslobodjenjem Ukranije, ili bar zaledjivanjem na statusu od prije rata).
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#92004 Re: Ukrajina

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lajkujMe wrote: 07/06/2022 09:43 Kad smo kod Samohodki

Sjecate se od neki dan one fame oko Belgijskih m109?
Sto je Belgija prodala privatnoj firmi 2008?
Pa Belgijs htjela da ih otkupu i ova firma trazila 10 puta vecu cijenu za njih nego sto ih je Belgija prodala toj firmi?

Evo novosti vezano za njih



Ukrajina ih je sama kupila svojim parama.

Ali ima jos, imam detalje transakcije :D

Prvo Belgija sere, prodala je ukupno 26 M109 toj firmi po cijeni slusaj sad 15.000 eura po komadu :lol:

Ovi trazili 150.000 eura po komadu i Belgiji preskupo :D

Ukrajini nije :lol:

Ukupno se radi o 26 M109 samohodki koje je Ukrajina otkupila od te firme.

3.9 miliona Eura za 26 samohodke po meni bagatela cijena :D
ključno pitanje je u kakvom su stanju cijevi, džaba samohotka ako je cijev pojedena
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#92005 Re: Ukrajina

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pici wrote: 07/06/2022 11:18
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Russian mercenary Vladimir Andonov has been reportedly killed by a Russian sniper in Kharkiv, the second biggest city in Ukraine.


UBIO GA SNAJPER
Zloglasni Putinov krvnik likvidiran kod Harkiva, bio je poznat pod nadimkom ‘Dželat‘
U ruskoj invaziji na Ukrajinu odigrao je ključnu ulogu u masovnom strijeljanju ratnih zarobljenika i pogubljenju civila u Donbasu
Jedno govno manje.
brišu tragove zločina, mrtva usta ne svjedoče
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#92006 Re: Ukrajina

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"Često me pitaju zašto su moje objave na Telegramu tako žestoke. Odgovor je da ih mrzim. Oni su gadovi i degenerici. Oni žele smrt za nas, Rusiju. I dok sam živ, učinit ću sve da nestanu", napisao je Medvedev misleći na Ukrajinu i Ukrajince.
Koja kolicina fasizma i nacizma se nakotila u rusiji.
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#92007 Re: Ukrajina

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pici wrote: 07/06/2022 11:18
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Russian mercenary Vladimir Andonov has been reportedly killed by a Russian sniper in Kharkiv, the second biggest city in Ukraine.


UBIO GA SNAJPER
Zloglasni Putinov krvnik likvidiran kod Harkiva, bio je poznat pod nadimkom ‘Dželat‘
U ruskoj invaziji na Ukrajinu odigrao je ključnu ulogu u masovnom strijeljanju ratnih zarobljenika i pogubljenju civila u Donbasu
Jedno govno manje.
dragi pici i tehvid mu odrzali dosad,vijest od juce hej od juce, na nas ovde 10ak revnosnih :lol:
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#92008 Re: Ukrajina

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SanskiBiser wrote: 07/06/2022 11:18 https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/runni ... 48c2107e0a

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Having discussed the ‚fundaments‘ — the politics — in the ‘Part 1’, yesterday, it’s time to discuss military aspects of the first three months of the Ukraine War. I find this anything else than easy — because of all the absurdities surrounding this affair. Surely enough, over the last few days I’ve developed a number of beautiful formulations, wrote them down and this piece started coming together. However, at the second- and then the third look, it fell apart, and it did so because there are too many things simply not making any sense at all.


But, well, there is a war and a war is always a most serious affair. Thus, lets try, ‘nevertheless’, and start doing so by taking a look at Putin’s Russia and the official version of his ‘special military operation’. After all, there must be a reason for the President of the Russian Federation unleashing the full might of his armed forces upon a neighbouring country…

Now, along what one gets to hear from sources in Russia, goals of Putin’s special military operation were — and remain — insistently formulated as vaguely as possible. This is ‘typical Putin’: a cynical and perfidious character ruling ‘by vague directives’, not by orders.

Of course, recipients of his directives are obliged to understand his directives as orders, and thus formulate very strict orders and forward these to their subordinates.

Precisely that is the point about the way Putin rules: if something goes wrong, they’re to blame, not Putin; he told them to do better, but they have issued wrong orders…

From Putin’s point of view that’s ideal, because it’s is enabling him to remain flexible in regards of results, while avoiding own accountability.

Unsuprising conclusion is that this special military operation is making no sense, and is following no plan. But, that is a big mistake. Every single Russian present in the social media can offer at least 15–20 different versions, and the winning version is usually the one expressed by the character that can swear better, offend other participants in a more profane fashion, or is in a position to threaten their security.

Along such lines, dear reader, please make no mistake: assault on Hostomel and the ‘Dash on Kyiv’ were all a big feint. A feint necessary to avoid the destruction of northern Crimea, to liberate historic Russians, correct countless historic mistakes, to disarm Extremists and Nationalists serving as Western lackeys, to prevent a NATO attack into south-western Russia, to effect a payback to Western Imperialism…it is a heroic enterprise to end the Anglo-Saxon dominance; a noble, pre-emptive effort to prevent homosexuals from taking over not only Moscow but Kamchatka, Moon and Mars… with other words: it is an aggression of NATO on Russia.

How do you mean, this sounds absurd? That’s what the Russians are fighting for, and even if not everything is going according to the (non-existing) plan, Father Putin is taking care about everything, everything is not just nice and fine, but simply fantastic, there are wonderful Potemkin’s villages everywhere, and Russia is short of saving the World from famine…

…sigh….

I’m digressing, obviously. Other analysists — whether in the USA or Europe — have prepared much more serious analyses. They know that the RFA is run by all sorts of corrupt incompetents; that Russian generals are shot away (and that is ‘good’) because they have to lead from the front in order to operate effectively; that the RFA is massively understaffed; severely underequipped in regards of its means of communication; and that the mass of its equipment is far less good than advertised, regardless how much glorified (usually by the very same analysts) over the last 20–30 years… Indeed, some are already going as far as to list all the experiences the RFA is going to learn and how much is it going to improve itself — during and after this war…

….sigh…

OK, enough of sarcasm. The problem is this: essentially everybody is telling us that in a country where no decision-maker dares tying his shoelaces ‘without permission from above’ — whether from members of the St Petersburger Club or Putin himself — Putin doesn’t matter? It doesn’t matter if he appointed his favourites in command; it doesn’t matter if he created an endemically corrupt system — yes, with wholehearted support from his supporters at home, but also plentiful of ‘fans’ abroad — and then launched a war aimed at avoiding accountability for this?

When one takes this into account, and then adds the fact that Putin was micromanaging the first two months of his special military operation, the miserable performance of the Russian Armed Forces is simply no surprise.

This is not so because Putin has no serious military education, but because he is ruling by extortion and scoring PR-points on the TV. The blackmail did not work, and thus he had to present himself as great strategist. For PR-reasons, he had to secure major urban centres — but he had to do so with a force developed, equipped and trained by the GenStab of the RFA to run high-speed mechanised warfare into the depth of enemy territory, but organised into battalion tactical groups custom-tailored for expeditionary warfare, while supported by air power operating along ideas klix back to the times of Second World War…

Actually, at this point there is no way around the conclusion that, yes, it doesn’t matter if the RFA is understaffed and under-equipped or not; it doesn’t matter if it is run by corrupt incompetents or whatever else. One could send the US Army into Ukraine instead and, considering this set of contradictions alone, it would fail as miserably as the RFA is doing.

Based on illusion about Ukrainian lack of will to fight, indeed, expectations that Ukrainians would accept Russians as liberators, and run by a combination of Spetnaz and Rosgvardia troops, which were to be followed by mechanised forces, the (mad) ‘Dash on Kyiv’ resulted in such massive losses that the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 2nd, 35th and 41st Combined Arms Armies de-facto fell apart. They suffered such losses in best troops and equipment Russia has to offer that even after several weeks of rest and replenishment prior to the re-deployment of their remnants to the East, they cannot accomplish their mission.

All because Putin had to gain control over major urban centres of Ukraine, and because he remains insistent on such ideas. All for PR-purposes: so that he can brag on the TV. Meanwhile, the best regular units of the LNR and the DNR were squandered in three months of frontal assaults on best Ukrainian fortifications, while the VKS was ‘disarmed’ — especially of its cruise missiles — to the level where it is unable of more than sporadically effective operations at tactical level. For PR-purposes, once again.

With other words: while like the USA and allies lost the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq because they spent 20 years fighting these for the purpose of corporate profits, so also the Russian Federation has meanwhile lost the war in Ukraine because it’s fighting it for the purpose of scoring public relations points for Putin. That’s the essence of the problem on hand.

Of course, Putin cannot afford any kind of defeat, and can’t care less about casualty rates. The only thing that matters to him is ‘victory’ - no matter what sort. This means that he’s going to continue pushing as long as there are troops, equipment, and ammunition left to keep on pushing. This is why the RFA (and consorts) is mobilising thousands of additional reservists, refreshing their training in a matter of few days, equipping them with obsolete weaponry and then rushing them to the frontlines; this is why they’re continuing with assaults — even if these are ever smaller in scale and scope, and minimal in regards of results.


The RFA artillery is still superior to that of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and the firepower of the VKS is outmatching that of Ukraine by several magnitudes. This is why the Russians in Ukraine can still maintain semblance of at least something like ‘slow advance’. That said, my conclusion is that — short of an escalation to the nuclear option — the worst for Ukraine in this war is over: unless the Ukrainian Armed Forces make a major mistake, the times of Russian advances are over. Unless ‘somebody’ from the West forces Zelensky & Co into some kind of concessions, Putin and his Keystone Cops in Moscow cannot achieve any kind of success in this adventure, whatsoever: they can only cause additional deaths and damage.

Ironically: despite all of this, Putin can still stop this idiocy at any point in time and space, and declare a ‘victory’, like he did in Syria… three times. 8-) :roll:
Keystone Cops in Moscow

kontam da je neka uzrecica, al sta im tacno znaci? direktna prevod nema smisla, neki je sleng sta li.
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#92010 Re: Ukrajina

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@sumirprimus
The Keystone Cops (often spelled "Keystone Kops") are fictional, humorously incompetent policemen featured in silent film slapstick comedies produced by Mack Sennett for his Keystone Film Company between 1912 and 1917.

The name has since been used to criticize any group for its mistakes and lack of coordination, particularly if either trait was exhibited after a great deal of energy and activity.
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#92011 Re: Ukrajina

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sumirprimus wrote: 07/06/2022 12:04
SanskiBiser wrote: 07/06/2022 11:18 https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/runni ... 48c2107e0a

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Keystone Cops in Moscow

kontam da je neka uzrecica, al sta im tacno znaci? direktna prevod nema smisla, neki je sleng sta li.
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Ruski MOD i FSB, Kremlj...

A Pentagon je "People in Need of Fresh Air" :D

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#92013 Re: Ukrajina

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eee okej znaci ima korijen, okok hvala :thumbup:
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#92014 Re: Ukrajina

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kako su identificirali jednog od ratnih zlocinaca orka, po imenu miron...
The individual who filmed the video on March 22 is Igor Miroshnichenko, call sign "Miron" on his Russian "LPR" military ID card.

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Contrary to popular belief, the 6th regiment (Cossacks) of the "LPR" which is under the command of Russia's 8th Combined Arms Army, is quite well armed. They even have an MLRS:
The two videos on "Miron's" Tik Tok page (now deleted) which placed him at the scene of the abuse video of seven (not six) Ukrainian POWs posted Mar 22 on Telegram
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#92015 Re: Ukrajina

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Prateće pojave rata: u Kijevu je uhapšen organizator ilegalnog prelaska granice za Ukrajince koji nisu bili voljni da ratuju. Prebacivanje u Poljsku naplaćivao je od 3 do 5 hiljada dolara po osobi.

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Čitalac wrote: 07/06/2022 12:29 Prateće pojave rata: u Kijevu je uhapšen organizator ilegalnog prelaska granice za Ukrajince koji nisu bili voljni da ratuju. Prebacivanje u Poljsku naplaćivao je od 3 do 5 hiljada dolara po osobi.

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#92017 Re: Ukrajina

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kod nas je bilo jos jadnije - manekeni sa heklerima manekenisu po carsiji u rejbankama dok raja u rovu nema cizme kako treba..... najbolje da drzavu pravi amer iz kentakija da se bori.....
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#92018 Re: Ukrajina

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snašo se :lol:
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#92021 Re: Ukrajina

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#92022 Re: Ukrajina

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lajkujMe wrote: 07/06/2022 09:29
madner wrote: 07/06/2022 09:26 NATO mora predstati da Rusku vojsku posmatra kao svoju. To je drugi sistem, svjestan da protivnik ima veci kvalitet ali isto tako svjestan svojih pluseva.

Po NATO analiticarima te grupe ne bi trebale postojati, ako su Rusi na oko 100 000 gubitaka. Ovo prihvatanje makljaze i borbe na iscrpljenje je glupo.
Ok ako je tako, sta onda promjeniti? Sta uraditi da ne bude attrition rat?
Pa raditi ono sto su radili prva dva mjeseca gdje im je islo. Pustiti Ruse da udju dublje i kontranapadi protiv izolovanih formacija. 92. je to odradila gotovo savrseno u daleko najtezem djelu ratista.
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#92023 Re: Ukrajina

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madner wrote: 07/06/2022 12:52
lajkujMe wrote: 07/06/2022 09:29

Ok ako je tako, sta onda promjeniti? Sta uraditi da ne bude attrition rat?
Pa raditi ono sto su radili prva dva mjeseca gdje im je islo. Pustiti Ruse da udju dublje i kontranapadi protiv izolovanih formacija. 92. je to odradila gotovo savrseno u daleko najtezem djelu ratista.
Zašto je cijeli jug ispao iz igre radi takve vrste ratovanja. Sjever je odradio dobro ali jug ništa. Pa možda i ovaj sjever-sjeverodonjeck ali tu treba vidjeti rezultat.
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#92024 Re: Ukrajina

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pici wrote: 07/06/2022 11:18 Russian mercenary Vladimir Andonov has been reportedly killed by a Russian sniper
jel ovo greska u tekstu ili je informacija tacna?
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#92025 Re: Ukrajina

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exliberal-ex wrote: 06/06/2022 22:45 Mozda je ovo razlog sto Zelenski obilazi jedinice?


https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNdcyEWt/?k=1
Jel ovo opet zabrinutost za cijenu plina u Transdnistriji ? Cujes li ti sebe ? >100 dana trodnevne operacije (specijalne), kakva bi tek bila da je "normalna"...? Pogibije generala su izmisljene i u stvari Ukrajina se raspada, a ne ono malo jos nenajebatih RUS jedinica na terenu... DNR nece da ratuje u LNR, a LNR nece u DNR... Tenkove T-54 samo sto nisu poceli slati, ali je to bio plan u startu, vajda...
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