kaže "...i ova dva testisa kraj tebe..."Milenkov buraz wrote: ↑07/06/2022 09:30Ja sam razumio ono sa govnima "merda"drug_profi wrote: ↑07/06/2022 09:28
Samo je pitanje da li je uopste prevedeno kako treba, ali meni se sviDŽa kako je koristio metafore....![]()
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Ukrajina
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#91976 Re: Ukrajina
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#91977 Re: Ukrajina
jel bilo, zanimljivi dio je gdje kaze ukr. vojnik da je obuka trajala 5 dana. nema tu nikakvih nepoznanica, nisu s neba pali.
a propos price koliko traje obuka u poljskoj njemckoj i sl...
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#91978 Re: Ukrajina
zilog wrote: ↑07/06/2022 09:31Trebas imati u vidu da FIRMS cesce pokazuje mjesta ispaljivanja VBR-ova (ili MLRS-ova kome se vise svidja) i to ako satelit uhvati trenutak ispaljivanja, ili cesce zapaljenu travu i sikaru. Sama mjesta udara bi trebala biti vidljiva, samo ako je doslo do sekundarnog pozara.lajkujMe wrote: ↑07/06/2022 08:47 Malo vijesti s FrontaSto se FIRMS tice veoma jaka artiljerijska vatra po gradu Polohy kojeg Rusi kontrolisu.SpoilerShow
Oslobodilii Blahodatne 15km sjeverno od Kersona.
U Severdonetsku usljedila kontra kontra napad Rusa gdje su uspjeli potisnuti UA snage nazad sad je 50/50 kontrola grada.
Zahvaljujuci rezervama i LNR i DNR trupama.
Ostatak fronta bez promjena bilo je pokusaja napada od Rusa na raznim dijelovima svi su odbijeni.
To je novost do sada Rusi su dominirali na tom reonu protiv Huliaople i Orikhiv.
Sudeci po Firmsu rekao bih da se vode ulicne borbe za taj grad.
Firms je tih kod Davidovog Broda to me malo brine
Znam, zato mi je jos strasnije
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#91979 Re: Ukrajina
@sumirprimus
Maloprije procitah da je trening zavrsen i za servisere m777 kurs trajao 10 dana u Njemackoj i sad UA moze sama popravljati i servisirati 777
Maloprije procitah da je trening zavrsen i za servisere m777 kurs trajao 10 dana u Njemackoj i sad UA moze sama popravljati i servisirati 777
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#91980 Re: Ukrajina
nastavljaju s obukom..
jebte djeluju ko nato na prvu
estetski
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#91981 Re: Ukrajina
Gledam sinoc na YT PZH2000.
Zvijer.
Ali lako neobucenom posluziocu ostati bez ruke ili noge...
Zvijer.
Ali lako neobucenom posluziocu ostati bez ruke ili noge...
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#91982 Re: Ukrajina
al sto mesje baci topovsku granatu na zemlju i to sa upaljacem na njoj

mogo je lako dezintegrisat citavu cetu
mogo je lako dezintegrisat citavu cetu
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#91983 Re: Ukrajina
ovaj general zvacemo ga sikorski tesko slomit jezik na ovo sirsskiini kako vec 
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#91984 Re: Ukrajina
Kad smo kod Samohodki
Sjecate se od neki dan one fame oko Belgijskih m109?
Sto je Belgija prodala privatnoj firmi 2008?
Pa Belgijs htjela da ih otkupu i ova firma trazila 10 puta vecu cijenu za njih nego sto ih je Belgija prodala toj firmi?
Evo novosti vezano za njih
Ukrajina ih je sama kupila svojim parama.
Ali ima jos, imam detalje transakcije
Prvo Belgija sere, prodala je ukupno 26 M109 toj firmi po cijeni slusaj sad 15.000 eura po komadu
Ovi trazili 150.000 eura po komadu i Belgiji preskupo
Ukrajini nije
Ukupno se radi o 26 M109 samohodki koje je Ukrajina otkupila od te firme.
3.9 miliona Eura za 26 samohodke po meni bagatela cijena
Sjecate se od neki dan one fame oko Belgijskih m109?
Sto je Belgija prodala privatnoj firmi 2008?
Pa Belgijs htjela da ih otkupu i ova firma trazila 10 puta vecu cijenu za njih nego sto ih je Belgija prodala toj firmi?
Evo novosti vezano za njih
Ukrajina ih je sama kupila svojim parama.
Ali ima jos, imam detalje transakcije
Prvo Belgija sere, prodala je ukupno 26 M109 toj firmi po cijeni slusaj sad 15.000 eura po komadu
Ovi trazili 150.000 eura po komadu i Belgiji preskupo
Ukrajini nije
Ukupno se radi o 26 M109 samohodki koje je Ukrajina otkupila od te firme.
3.9 miliona Eura za 26 samohodke po meni bagatela cijena
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#91986 Re: Ukrajina
Ma to je potpuno bezopasno. Upaljaci jos nisu armirani. Armiraju se ispaljenjem.skrbavi-admin wrote: ↑07/06/2022 09:39 al sto mesje baci topovsku granatu na zemlju i to sa upaljacem na njoj![]()
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#91987 Re: Ukrajina
Ma kad bacaju one bombice iz malog drona to je fazon za gledati. A rojevi malih samouništavajućih dronova bi pravilo strahoviti efekat.
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#91988 Re: Ukrajina
Vjerujte kad ove male komercijalne dronove uvezu s AI softwerom uz malu cijenu da ispale jedno 100komada da traze grupisano ciljeve i samouniste se...
To ce biti gamechanger nema efektivne odbrane protiv eojeva dronova
To ce biti gamechanger nema efektivne odbrane protiv eojeva dronova
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#91990 Re: Ukrajina
gledaj ti samo kako su sklapali kockice oko svega ,kako je to sve bilo uvezano, od prosle godine od skupstine rs.a prebacivanja nadleznosti na rs i pripreme za odcjepljenje,podrske hdza i covica, do litijaske vlade u cg. milanovic u hrv, jansa u slo, orban,bitno vidi se sad jer su dio natoa i eu, ko podrska i koridor, vucic i otvoreni balkan, sve se kockice slozile. i bub
Ukrajina se desi, niko se nije nado da ce ovi pruzit otpor.
i pobjegli smo maltene s jantahti
a da nas niko nista i nije pito..
i zato Slava Ukrajini,
Ukrajina se desi, niko se nije nado da ce ovi pruzit otpor.
i pobjegli smo maltene s jantahti
a da nas niko nista i nije pito..
i zato Slava Ukrajini,
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#91991 Re: Ukrajina
Da se nije desila Ukrajina ili da je pala u prvih mjesec dana danas bi se ganjali puškama po BiH i imali sličan ukrajinski scenarij. Luda sreća za Bošnjake i BiH, sada teško, gotovo nemoguće da bila šta slično naprave mada mislim da imaju i rezrevne planove.sumirprimus wrote: ↑07/06/2022 10:03 gledaj ti samo kako su sklapali kockice oko svega ,kako je to sve bilo uvezano, od prosle godine od skupstine rs.a prebacivanja nadleznosti na rs i pripreme za odcjepljenje,podrske hdza i covica, do litijaske vlade u cg. milanovic u hrv, jansa u slo, orban,bitno vidi se sad jer su dio natoa i eu, ko podrska i koridor, vucic i otvoreni balkan, sve se kockice slozile. i bub
Ukrajina se desi, niko se nije nado da ce ovi pruzit otpor.
i pobjegli smo maltene s jantahti![]()
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a da nas niko nista i nije pito..
i zato Slava Ukrajini,![]()
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#91992 Re: Ukrajina
Naivno je misliti da se od toga odustalo. Sada su samo malo karte drugačije posložene.Iscrpljivanje se nastavlja do neke druge prilike. I poslje Dodika Dodik.
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#91993 Re: Ukrajina
ma ovaj rat u ukrajini dobro dodje i da se vidi da je dzaba prijetit sa neuporedivo manjom vatrenom moci,kad ruje meda ne mogu ukrajini,mos mislit....

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#91995 Re: Ukrajina
Naravno, Ukrajina treba da bude još jedna škola. Neće ići istim putem, sada traže zaobilaznice ali za neke stvari im je već sada kasno. Uvijek mogu na "horuk" probati ali to je prije ili kasnije osuđeno na propast, pogotovo u ovakvim okolnostima.
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#91996 Re: Ukrajina
Idu u ilegalu i cekaju rasplet situacije. Za godinu dana ili ce otkopavati sjekire ili ce se praviti mutavi da se ista od ovog desiloMilenkov buraz wrote: ↑07/06/2022 10:07Da se nije desila Ukrajina ili da je pala u prvih mjesec dana danas bi se ganjali puškama po BiH i imali sličan ukrajinski scenarij. Luda sreća za Bošnjake i BiH, sada teško, gotovo nemoguće da bila šta slično naprave mada mislim da imaju i rezrevne planove.sumirprimus wrote: ↑07/06/2022 10:03 gledaj ti samo kako su sklapali kockice oko svega ,kako je to sve bilo uvezano, od prosle godine od skupstine rs.a prebacivanja nadleznosti na rs i pripreme za odcjepljenje,podrske hdza i covica, do litijaske vlade u cg. milanovic u hrv, jansa u slo, orban,bitno vidi se sad jer su dio natoa i eu, ko podrska i koridor, vucic i otvoreni balkan, sve se kockice slozile. i bub
Ukrajina se desi, niko se nije nado da ce ovi pruzit otpor.
i pobjegli smo maltene s jantahti![]()
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a da nas niko nista i nije pito..
i zato Slava Ukrajini,![]()
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#91998 Re: Ukrajina
Ne bi me iznenadilo da pocnu srati sta oko Vidovdana... znas kako to u srpskoj mitologiji ide Kosovo- Vidovdan - sranjasime_cipol wrote: ↑07/06/2022 10:26Idu u ilegalu i cekaju rasplet situacije. Za godinu dana ili ce otkopavati sjekire ili ce se praviti mutavi da se ista od ovog desiloMilenkov buraz wrote: ↑07/06/2022 10:07
Da se nije desila Ukrajina ili da je pala u prvih mjesec dana danas bi se ganjali puškama po BiH i imali sličan ukrajinski scenarij. Luda sreća za Bošnjake i BiH, sada teško, gotovo nemoguće da bila šta slično naprave mada mislim da imaju i rezrevne planove.
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#91999 Re: Ukrajina
Rusi prebacuju Mrtve iz Azovstala Ukrajincima.
Vjerovatno u sklopu one razmjene mrtvih od jucer
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#92000 Re: Ukrajina
https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/runni ... 48c2107e0a
drugi dio Tom Cooper osvrt na vojna pitanja...
drugi dio Tom Cooper osvrt na vojna pitanja...
Having discussed the ‚fundaments‘ — the politics — in the ‘Part 1’, yesterday, it’s time to discuss military aspects of the first three months of the Ukraine War. I find this anything else than easy — because of all the absurdities surrounding this affair. Surely enough, over the last few days I’ve developed a number of beautiful formulations, wrote them down and this piece started coming together. However, at the second- and then the third look, it fell apart, and it did so because there are too many things simply not making any sense at all.
But, well, there is a war and a war is always a most serious affair. Thus, lets try, ‘nevertheless’, and start doing so by taking a look at Putin’s Russia and the official version of his ‘special military operation’. After all, there must be a reason for the President of the Russian Federation unleashing the full might of his armed forces upon a neighbouring country…
Now, along what one gets to hear from sources in Russia, goals of Putin’s special military operation were — and remain — insistently formulated as vaguely as possible. This is ‘typical Putin’: a cynical and perfidious character ruling ‘by vague directives’, not by orders.
Of course, recipients of his directives are obliged to understand his directives as orders, and thus formulate very strict orders and forward these to their subordinates.
Precisely that is the point about the way Putin rules: if something goes wrong, they’re to blame, not Putin; he told them to do better, but they have issued wrong orders…
From Putin’s point of view that’s ideal, because it’s is enabling him to remain flexible in regards of results, while avoiding own accountability.
Unsuprising conclusion is that this special military operation is making no sense, and is following no plan. But, that is a big mistake. Every single Russian present in the social media can offer at least 15–20 different versions, and the winning version is usually the one expressed by the character that can swear better, offend other participants in a more profane fashion, or is in a position to threaten their security.
Along such lines, dear reader, please make no mistake: assault on Hostomel and the ‘Dash on Kyiv’ were all a big feint. A feint necessary to avoid the destruction of northern Crimea, to liberate historic Russians, correct countless historic mistakes, to disarm Extremists and Nationalists serving as Western lackeys, to prevent a NATO attack into south-western Russia, to effect a payback to Western Imperialism…it is a heroic enterprise to end the Anglo-Saxon dominance; a noble, pre-emptive effort to prevent homosexuals from taking over not only Moscow but Kamchatka, Moon and Mars… with other words: it is an aggression of NATO on Russia.
How do you mean, this sounds absurd? That’s what the Russians are fighting for, and even if not everything is going according to the (non-existing) plan, Father Putin is taking care about everything, everything is not just nice and fine, but simply fantastic, there are wonderful Potemkin’s villages everywhere, and Russia is short of saving the World from famine…
…sigh….
I’m digressing, obviously. Other analysists — whether in the USA or Europe — have prepared much more serious analyses. They know that the RFA is run by all sorts of corrupt incompetents; that Russian generals are shot away (and that is ‘good’) because they have to lead from the front in order to operate effectively; that the RFA is massively understaffed; severely underequipped in regards of its means of communication; and that the mass of its equipment is far less good than advertised, regardless how much glorified (usually by the very same analysts) over the last 20–30 years… Indeed, some are already going as far as to list all the experiences the RFA is going to learn and how much is it going to improve itself — during and after this war…
….sigh…
OK, enough of sarcasm. The problem is this: essentially everybody is telling us that in a country where no decision-maker dares tying his shoelaces ‘without permission from above’ — whether from members of the St Petersburger Club or Putin himself — Putin doesn’t matter? It doesn’t matter if he appointed his favourites in command; it doesn’t matter if he created an endemically corrupt system — yes, with wholehearted support from his supporters at home, but also plentiful of ‘fans’ abroad — and then launched a war aimed at avoiding accountability for this?
When one takes this into account, and then adds the fact that Putin was micromanaging the first two months of his special military operation, the miserable performance of the Russian Armed Forces is simply no surprise.
This is not so because Putin has no serious military education, but because he is ruling by extortion and scoring PR-points on the TV. The blackmail did not work, and thus he had to present himself as great strategist. For PR-reasons, he had to secure major urban centres — but he had to do so with a force developed, equipped and trained by the GenStab of the RFA to run high-speed mechanised warfare into the depth of enemy territory, but organised into battalion tactical groups custom-tailored for expeditionary warfare, while supported by air power operating along ideas klix back to the times of Second World War…
Actually, at this point there is no way around the conclusion that, yes, it doesn’t matter if the RFA is understaffed and under-equipped or not; it doesn’t matter if it is run by corrupt incompetents or whatever else. One could send the US Army into Ukraine instead and, considering this set of contradictions alone, it would fail as miserably as the RFA is doing.
Based on illusion about Ukrainian lack of will to fight, indeed, expectations that Ukrainians would accept Russians as liberators, and run by a combination of Spetnaz and Rosgvardia troops, which were to be followed by mechanised forces, the (mad) ‘Dash on Kyiv’ resulted in such massive losses that the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 2nd, 35th and 41st Combined Arms Armies de-facto fell apart. They suffered such losses in best troops and equipment Russia has to offer that even after several weeks of rest and replenishment prior to the re-deployment of their remnants to the East, they cannot accomplish their mission.
All because Putin had to gain control over major urban centres of Ukraine, and because he remains insistent on such ideas. All for PR-purposes: so that he can brag on the TV. Meanwhile, the best regular units of the LNR and the DNR were squandered in three months of frontal assaults on best Ukrainian fortifications, while the VKS was ‘disarmed’ — especially of its cruise missiles — to the level where it is unable of more than sporadically effective operations at tactical level. For PR-purposes, once again.
With other words: while like the USA and allies lost the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq because they spent 20 years fighting these for the purpose of corporate profits, so also the Russian Federation has meanwhile lost the war in Ukraine because it’s fighting it for the purpose of scoring public relations points for Putin. That’s the essence of the problem on hand.
Of course, Putin cannot afford any kind of defeat, and can’t care less about casualty rates. The only thing that matters to him is ‘victory’ - no matter what sort. This means that he’s going to continue pushing as long as there are troops, equipment, and ammunition left to keep on pushing. This is why the RFA (and consorts) is mobilising thousands of additional reservists, refreshing their training in a matter of few days, equipping them with obsolete weaponry and then rushing them to the frontlines; this is why they’re continuing with assaults — even if these are ever smaller in scale and scope, and minimal in regards of results.
The RFA artillery is still superior to that of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and the firepower of the VKS is outmatching that of Ukraine by several magnitudes. This is why the Russians in Ukraine can still maintain semblance of at least something like ‘slow advance’. That said, my conclusion is that — short of an escalation to the nuclear option — the worst for Ukraine in this war is over: unless the Ukrainian Armed Forces make a major mistake, the times of Russian advances are over. Unless ‘somebody’ from the West forces Zelensky & Co into some kind of concessions, Putin and his Keystone Cops in Moscow cannot achieve any kind of success in this adventure, whatsoever: they can only cause additional deaths and damage.
Ironically: despite all of this, Putin can still stop this idiocy at any point in time and space, and declare a ‘victory’, like he did in Syria… three times.![]()
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