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#1851 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.
Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom. :lol:
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.
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#1852 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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asurbanipal wrote:
ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

Arapski istoričari se bave 'bitnijim' stvarima.





Kako kucam preko telefona, ne mogu da vidim te "bitnije" stvari.
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#1853 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH017 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.
Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom. :lol:
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.
Ja sam mu to htio reći! :lol:
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#1854 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH, gledaj spikericu :izet: njega!
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#1855 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.
http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11 :D
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#1856 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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asurbanipal wrote:In 833 CE, the Abbasid Caliph al-Ma'mun began a period of inquisition (mihna), one which continued until his successor al-Mutawakkil decreed its end, fifteen years later. During this period, the Caliphs in power strove to promote 'correct belief' in the 'createdness' of the Qur'an, thus ordering the interrogation of religious scholars on the subject and disqualifying, beating or even executing those who answered incorrectly. Here, John P. Turner examines and analyses this major episode, viewing it as the pivotal point for the era in question and ultimately for the state of relations between the temporal authorities and religious law. Inquisition in Early Islam focuses on the shifting control over matters of belief and orthodoxy, from the Caliph to the religious scholars, and explores the relationships between heresy, power and the articulation and definition of law and doctrine. Turner does so by exploring the mihna within its context, asking questions such as, why was it so pivotal? Why was it begun ? Why did it end? When did the meaning of the Caliph's position in society shift ?

How did the Caliph lose his ability to assert himself in defining the boundaries and beliefs of religion? And why and when do the religious/legal scholars gain independence and control over the elaboration and interpretation of the law? By examining the definition of 'heresy' as conceived of by the Caliphs, Turner presents a vivid account of the heresy trials during this period, as well as an insightful analysis of the nature of rule and religion. Through investigating heretics and heresy in this period, Turner highlights the Caliph's social role, exploring the relationships between orthodoxy, heresy, power and authority in a context where there was no single arbiter of dogma. This book is therefore of particular interest to researchers and scholars of Islamic history as well as of comparative religion and medieval history.


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Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.
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#1857 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.
http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11 :D

John P. Turner - Al-Jāḥiẓ and the Politics of Identity :izet:
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#1858 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote: Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ? :mrgreen:
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#1859 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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asurbanipal wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.
http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11 :D

John P. Turner - Al-Jāḥiẓ and the Politics of Identity :izet:
:-D
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#1860 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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asurbanipal wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote: Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ? :mrgreen:
yup :D
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#1861 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.
http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11 :D
Ne kontam.
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#1862 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
asurbanipal wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote: Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ? :mrgreen:
yup :D

To je sve masonsko-cionistička zavjera. Čuj palili knjige. I još inkvizicija kod muslimana. Ma nije moguće... :mrgreen:
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#1863 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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asurbanipal wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
asurbanipal wrote:

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ? :mrgreen:
yup :D

To je sve masonsko-cionistička zavjera. Čuj palili knjige. I još inkvizicija kod muslimana. Ma nije moguće... :mrgreen:
Da mi je pronaci prezivjele primjerke knjiga :)
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#1864 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Jah..
Muslimana ili muslimana?
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#1865 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH017 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.
http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11 :D
Ne kontam.
Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije :) standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup :D
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#1866 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:
Ne kontam.
Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije :) standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup :D
Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.
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#1867 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH017 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote: Ne kontam.
Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije :) standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup :D
Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.
Sta nisam skontala?
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#1868 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije :) standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup :D
Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.
Sta nisam skontala?
Ono na šta si reagovala.
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#1869 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH017 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote: Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.
Sta nisam skontala?
Ono na šta si reagovala.
Staaa?
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#1870 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ABH017 wrote:
Ono na šta si reagovala.
Staaa?
Ne konta! :lol:
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#1871 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Vjeru će pokopati nekontanje.
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#1872 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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asurbanipal wrote:In 833 CE, the Abbasid Caliph al-Ma'mun began a period of inquisition (mihna), one which continued until his successor al-Mutawakkil decreed its end, fifteen years later. During this period, the Caliphs in power strove to promote 'correct belief' in the 'createdness' of the Qur'an, thus ordering the interrogation of religious scholars on the subject and disqualifying, beating or even executing those who answered incorrectly. Here, John P. Turner examines and analyses this major episode, viewing it as the pivotal point for the era in question and ultimately for the state of relations between the temporal authorities and religious law. Inquisition in Early Islam focuses on the shifting control over matters of belief and orthodoxy, from the Caliph to the religious scholars, and explores the relationships between heresy, power and the articulation and definition of law and doctrine. Turner does so by exploring the mihna within its context, asking questions such as, why was it so pivotal? Why was it begun ? Why did it end? When did the meaning of the Caliph's position in society shift ?

How did the Caliph lose his ability to assert himself in defining the boundaries and beliefs of religion? And why and when do the religious/legal scholars gain independence and control over the elaboration and interpretation of the law? By examining the definition of 'heresy' as conceived of by the Caliphs, Turner presents a vivid account of the heresy trials during this period, as well as an insightful analysis of the nature of rule and religion. Through investigating heretics and heresy in this period, Turner highlights the Caliph's social role, exploring the relationships between orthodoxy, heresy, power and authority in a context where there was no single arbiter of dogma. This book is therefore of particular interest to researchers and scholars of Islamic history as well as of comparative religion and medieval history.


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mousstapha wrote:Autor te knjige je sigurno neki mason ili izraelski plaćenik.
ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.
John P. Turner???
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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#1873 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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ABH017 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.
Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom. :lol:
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.
Nisam ja ni rekao da si to bio ti. Mada si vukao na nešto slično.
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#1874 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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Kad znani ljudi procitaju Kuran zijane se tako da odmah prelaze u Islam i postaju Muslimani u Islamu,

ima Ajet u Kuranu koji govori o tome.....

a koji se sam potvrdjuje svaki dan masu puta diljem Svijeta..... :sretan:
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#1875 Re: Vjeru će pokopati ZNANOST?

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SamoVasGledam wrote:
ABH017 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.
Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom. :lol:
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.
Nisam ja ni rekao da si to bio ti. Mada si vukao na nešto slično.
Ni blizu pajdo.
Dvostruki aršini se mogu primjetiti kod tebe. I pisao sam ti o tome argumentovano, pa si se ušutio.
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