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#1 Virtual memory very low

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nesto mi slicno vrlo cesto 'izbaci' a i bez toga postala sam svjesna da nesto nije u redu...

jer comp uzasno sporo radi!!! po 2min obavlja neku najobicniju funkciju za koju je prije trebalo minimalno par sekundi..

sta se desava?
virus?
ukrali mi ram memoriju kad sam zamjenila napojnu jedinicu?
losija napojna?

ili?

:(

pomoc needed
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adware 100%

:D:D:D
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#3

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pa majka mu stara...
imam milion nekih anti adware programa :shock:

ili mozda samo imam previse adware programa :D pa je comp prenatrpan

:D
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ne znam vala
meni je slican problem bio... jedan antiadware prepozna 20 adwarea
a drugi njih 240

:D:D:D

format c: :D:D:D
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Pojačaj memoriju, i ništa više.....
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:)
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zensko wrote:pa majka mu stara...
imam milion nekih anti adware programa :shock:

ili mozda samo imam previse adware programa :D pa je comp prenatrpan

:D
Haj priznaj koji si pornic gledala? :D
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Kame kao i uvijek taktican :( :sad: :-? ....takticar pravi.....kao slon u prodavaonici porcelana i stakla :P :razz: 8-) :lol: :D
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sanjanin wrote: Haj priznaj koji si pornic gledala? :D
MJESNA ZAJEDNICA......LUDILO!!!

http://www.sarajevo-x.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12905

:D
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fakat ste beze umjesto da pomognete dami :roll:
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komi wrote:fakat ste beze umjesto da pomognete dami :roll:
...vjerovatno joj treba generalno ciscenje kompjutera...oko toga ne mogu pomoc' ovako...

probaj desni klik na "My Computer" ikonu....klikni na "properties"...(otvara se novi prozor)...odaberi "Advanced" tab....pod "Performance" klikni na "settings".....(otvara se novi prozor)...odaberi "Advanced" tab...pod "Virtual Memory" klikni na "Change"....

...prije nego pocnes mjenjati napravi backup i probaj saznati preporucenu vrijednost za svoj kompjuter.....

...ovo vazi za windows XP...
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sorge_sa wrote:Kame kao i uvijek taktican :( :sad: :-? ....takticar pravi.....kao slon u prodavaonici porcelana i stakla :P :razz: 8-) :lol: :D
:D

Pa sta je bolan malo se zezam. :( Nismo zaruceni pa da moram bit na oprezu da me ne spuca u celo prstenom. :roll: :D
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Samo u čelo.....nadaj se ti..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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FortunaBela wrote:Samo u čelo.....nadaj se ti..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Imam velko celo. Ko da me Zoom pravio. :roll: :D
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Toozla wrote:
komi wrote:fakat ste beze umjesto da pomognete dami :roll:
...vjerovatno joj treba generalno ciscenje kompjutera...oko toga ne mogu pomoc' ovako...

probaj desni klik na "My Computer" ikonu....klikni na "properties"...(otvara se novi prozor)...odaberi "Advanced" tab....pod "Performance" klikni na "settings".....(otvara se novi prozor)...odaberi "Advanced" tab...pod "Virtual Memory" klikni na "Change"....

...prije nego pocnes mjenjati napravi backup i probaj saznati preporucenu vrijednost za svoj kompjuter.....

...ovo vazi za windows XP...
da,
provjeri vrijednost RAM-a , preporucena vrijednost virtualne memorije bi skolski trebala biti, trenutna vrijednost rama x 1,5 sto ce reci za 128 ram-a virtualna mem. je 192..
prvo to vidi pa se moze pricati o drugim stvarima
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Kakvo ti je ovo uputstvo? To za Virtualnu memoriju ne vazi za XP i 2K zato sto oni prosiruju virtualnu memoriju koliko god mogu, tj koliko imas prostora na disku. Cega backup da napravi? Virtualne memorije? Prvi put za tako nesto cujem. Nego ti skini sebi Microsoft Anti Spyware Beta1 i probaj sa tim da ocistis kompjuter. Do sada je to jedna od najboljih alatki za ciscenje, ako ne i najbolja. A za ubuduce nabavi sebi antivirus i pazi na sta klikces i na koje sajtove ides. Nemoj na sve sto iskoci da klikces yes, procitaj sta pise prije nego kliknes yes. Isto tako nebi bilo lose da skines Mozilu Firefox. Blokira popups i activeX tako da je puno manje problema kad se ona koristi.
Toozla wrote:
komi wrote:fakat ste beze umjesto da pomognete dami :roll:
...vjerovatno joj treba generalno ciscenje kompjutera...oko toga ne mogu pomoc' ovako...

probaj desni klik na "My Computer" ikonu....klikni na "properties"...(otvara se novi prozor)...odaberi "Advanced" tab....pod "Performance" klikni na "settings".....(otvara se novi prozor)...odaberi "Advanced" tab...pod "Virtual Memory" klikni na "Change"....

...prije nego pocnes mjenjati napravi backup i probaj saznati preporucenu vrijednost za svoj kompjuter.....

...ovo vazi za windows XP...
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zoom66 wrote:ih, kako bi kame volio da ga gluma...:D...spuca makar i shakom u chelo... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nije mi jasno sto svi na sva zvona trubite o Glumi i meni?=:D
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Kao Prvo Ukini (Uninstall) sve te "anti adware" i Anti spyware "programe koje si instalirala.(Add-Remove Software).To je problem Broj 1.(U 99% slucajeva oni su ti koji zadaju problem i instaliraju i pokrecu rad raznih servisa u background-u koji ti oduzimaju memoriju i prave masinu sporom.
Ukini (Delete) sve folder iz Program Files koji su vezani za te programe.
Skeniraj komp. da budes sigurna da nemas virus.
Download ovaj software i uradi detaljno skeniranje:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... ash=8KP7FL
Delete sve sto nadjes.
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I zaboravih da ti kazem...
Pop-up-i sa porukama o low virtual memory su obicno lazni, koji dolaze od advertizing kompanija a vezane su za free anti adware i anti spyware software. Cuvaj se toga i nikada nista ne download sa interneta..
Zapamti Ovo: Nista nije Dzabe osim problema....
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mom compu odavno treba generalno ciscenje ali eto nikako da nadjem osobu koja bi to sredila (ja se jos uvijek ne usudjujem) :( Toozla jesi li zainteresovan? :D

elem, hvala na odgovorima..gledala sam tu virtualnu memoriju i tamo stoji 192-384mb nesto, nesto..

ako mi vec predlazete da to promjenim, koje vrijednosti da upisem?

sto se same memorije tice, nedavno sam nadogradila i sad bi trebala da imam 128+512 pa racunajte koliko je to :)

@meho_puzic imam taj microsoft program i redovno ga koristim :(

@rajvosa4ever upravo skeniram comp za viruse (!avast) i do sada je nasao neki trojan gen nesto pa sam ga delete..:D
poskidacu sve adware programe ali cu ostaviti microsoftov, za svaki slucaj..

a evo cim napisem ovaj post odem na taj tvoj link, pa sta bude

@Toozla, kakav je to pornic? :D
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Koji Windows imas?
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rajvosa4ever wrote:I zaboravih da ti kazem...
Pop-up-i sa porukama o low virtual memory su obicno lazni, koji dolaze od advertizing kompanija a vezane su za free anti adware i anti spyware software. Cuvaj se toga i nikada nista ne download sa interneta..
Zapamti Ovo: Nista nije Dzabe osim problema....
ne mislim da je lazni pop-up, izgleda bas microsoftovski :D scary sam po sebi :D
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meho_puzic wrote:Kakvo ti je ovo uputstvo?
Uputstvo za obicne korisnike....da si otvorio ovo sto sam naveo, vidio bi da je ovo put za kontrolu velicine "paging file-a"....ona zna (bez uvrede) sta je paging file, a ja imam vremena da pisem Anu Karenjinu i objasnjavam...


To za Virtualnu memoriju ne vazi za XP i 2K zato sto oni prosiruju virtualnu memoriju koliko god mogu, tj koliko imas prostora na disku.

Kad vec ne znas sta je virtualna memorija, a sta paging file....evo pa procitaj:

What is Virtual Memory?
A program instruction on an Intel 386 or later CPU can address up to 4GB of memory, using its full 32 bits. This is normally far more than the RAM of the machine. (The 32nd exponent of 2 is exactly 4,294,967,296, or 4 GB. 32 binary digits allow the representation of 4,294,967,296 numbers — counting 0.) So the hardware provides for programs to operate in terms of as much as they wish of this full 4GB space as Virtual Memory, those parts of the program and data which are currently active being loaded into Physical Random Access Memory (RAM). The processor itself then translates (‘maps’) the virtual addresses from an instruction into the correct physical equivalents, doing this on the fly as the instruction is executed. The processor manages the mapping in terms of pages of 4 Kilobytes each - a size that has implications for managing virtual memory by the system.



What are Page Faults?
Only those parts of the program and data that are currently in active use need to be held in physical RAM. Other parts are then held in a swap file (as it’s called in Windows 95/98/ME: Win386.swp) or page file (in Windows NT versions including Windows 2000 and XP: pagefile.sys). When a program tries to access some address that is not currently in physical RAM, it generates an interrupt, called a Page Fault. This asks the system to retrieve the 4 KB page containing the address from the page file (or in the case of code possibly from the original program file). This — a valid page fault — normally happens quite invisibly. Sometimes, through program or hardware error, the page is not there either. The system then has an ‘Invalid Page Fault’ error. This will be a fatal error if detected in a program: if it is seen within the system itself (perhaps because a program sent it a bad request to do something), it may manifest itself as a ‘blue screen’ failure with a STOP code: consult the page on STOP Messages on this site.

If there is pressure on space in RAM, then parts of code and data that are not currently needed can be ‘paged out’ in order to make room — the page file can thus be seen as an overflow area to make the RAM behave as if it were larger than it is.



Cega backup da napravi? Virtualne memorije?

....moja greska... :lol: :lol: :lol: ...ni u snu nisam mogao predpostaviti da ce neko pomisliti na bilo kakav drugi backup osim HD-a....

Prvi put za tako nesto cujem. Nego ti skini sebi Microsoft Anti Spyware Beta1 i probaj sa tim da ocistis kompjuter. Do sada je to jedna od najboljih alatki za ciscenje, ako ne i najbolja. A za ubuduce nabavi sebi antivirus i pazi na sta klikces i na koje sajtove ides. Nemoj na sve sto iskoci da klikces yes, procitaj sta pise prije nego kliknes yes. Isto tako nebi bilo lose da skines Mozilu Firefox. Blokira popups i activeX tako da je puno manje problema kad se ona koristi.

Problems with Virtual Memory
It may sometimes happen that the system give ‘out of memory’ messages on trying to load a program, or give a message about Virtual memory space being low. Possible causes of this are:

The setting for Maximum Size of the page file is too low, or there is not enough disk space free to expand it to that size.


The page file has become corrupt, possibly at a bad shutdown. In the Virtual Memory settings, set to “No page file,” then exit System Properties, shut down the machine, and reboot. Delete PAGEFILE.SYS (on each drive, if more than just C:), set the page file up again and reboot to bring it into use.


The page file has been put on a different drive without leaving a minimal amount on C:.


There is trouble with third party software. In particular, if the message happens at shutdown, suspect a problem with Symantec’s Norton Live update, for which there is a fix posted here. It is also reported that spurious messages can arise if NAV 2004 is installed. If the problem happens at boot and the machine has an Intel chipset, the message may be caused by an early version (before version 2.1) of Intel’s “Application Accelerator.” Uninstall this and then get an up-to-date version from Intel’s site.


Possibly there is trouble with the drivers for IDE hard disks; in Device Manager, remove the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers (main controller) and reboot for Plug and Play to start over.


With an NTFS file system, the permissions for the page file’s drive’s root directory must give “Full Control” to SYSTEM. If not, there is likely to be a message at boot that the system is “unable to create a page file.”

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meho_puzic wrote:Koji Windows imas?
Win NT
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zensko wrote:mom compu odavno treba generalno ciscenje ali eto nikako da nadjem osobu koja bi to sredila (ja se jos uvijek ne usudjujem) :( Toozla jesi li zainteresovan? :D

elem, hvala na odgovorima..gledala sam tu virtualnu memoriju i tamo stoji 192-384mb nesto, nesto..

ako mi vec predlazete da to promjenim, koje vrijednosti da upisem?

sto se same memorije tice, nedavno sam nadogradila i sad bi trebala da imam 128+512 pa racunajte koliko je to :)

@meho_puzic imam taj microsoft program i redovno ga koristim :(

@rajvosa4ever upravo skeniram comp za viruse (!avast) i do sada je nasao neki trojan gen nesto pa sam ga delete..:D
poskidacu sve adware programe ali cu ostaviti microsoftov, za svaki slucaj..

a evo cim napisem ovaj post odem na taj tvoj link, pa sta bude

@Toozla, kakav je to pornic? :D
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