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legendo_moja wrote:Najuspješniji su baš iz tog razloga što igraju za Hrvatsku i što su igrali/igraju za hrvatske klubove. Da su ostali ovdje ne bi ih bilo nidje.

osa wrote:

legendo_moja wrote:Najuspješniji su baš iz tog razloga što igraju za Hrvatsku i što su igrali/igraju za hrvatske klubove. Da su ostali ovdje ne bi ih bilo nidje.

moguće, ali i u hrvatskoj ima puno sportaša ali proporcionalno bih hrvati daju daleko više reprezentativaca i kvalitetnih pojedinaca od domicilnih hrvata.

osa wrote:

legendo_moja wrote:Najuspješniji su baš iz tog razloga što igraju za Hrvatsku i što su igrali/igraju za hrvatske klubove. Da su ostali ovdje ne bi ih bilo nidje.

moguće, ali i u hrvatskoj ima puno sportaša ali proporcionalno bih hrvati daju daleko više reprezentativaca i kvalitetnih pojedinaca od domicilnih hrvata.

BaileyS wrote:Ma nidje veze, pogotovo u vezi sa fudbalerima. Kad bi se fukusirali na Bosnjake ispalo bi da su oni najuspjesniji fudbaleri u bivsoj Jugi s obzirom na procentualnu zastupljenost u bivsoj drzavi.

Meni je jedna druga stvar interesantna, kako je populacijski slabo naseljena Hercegovina dala toliko dobrih fudbalera. Poredivsi sa Krajinom npr. disproporcija je ogromna (iz Krajine ne znam ni jedno veliko fudbalsko ime)


btw
Odakle Srna medju bh Hrvatima?? Otac mu je Bosnjak.

Ali Sami Yen wrote:
Sin Uzeirov Odabro čovjek da bude hrvat, ha ja.

Ali Sami Yen wrote:Sin Uzeirov Odabro čovjek da bude hrvat, ha ja.

Josip wrote:znam da će se sada naći neki uvrijeđeni ali stvarno mi nije to cilj izazvati. dakel citirati ću smisao jedne izjave N. Kovača:
Ma igraju i ovi iz Hrvatske svim srcem i izgaraju ali oni tu državu imaju svaki dan. A nama sa strane ona nedostaje i mi žudimo za njom tako da ipak mi nekako više izgaramo za nju. Tako je isto i sa BH Hrvatima koji igraju za Hrvatsku ali i svaku drugu reprezentaciju.
Evo primjer Karabatića (nije Hrvat ) on pošto je tamo došao sa tri godine i donjeo drukčije ime i prezime od okoline ja mislim da on najviše izgara za tu reprezentaciju da bi se dokazao.

Josip wrote:

Ali Sami Yen wrote:Sin Uzeirov Odabro čovjek da bude hrvat, ha ja.

Srna je rođen u Metkoviću i dolje odrastao. Valjda je zato Hrvat. Jedino da mu je otac doveo ženu (njegovu mamu) u BiH onda bi mogao biti svašta....
osim Bosanca, naravno...jer otac mu je iz Hercegovine, mislim iz Ljubuškog.

BaileyS wrote: Kakve sad ima veze gdje je Srna rodjen? Tema nije generalno o Hrvatima vec o bh Hrvatima a Srna se ni po kojem osnovu ne moze racunati bh Hrvatom. Otac mu nije iz Ljubuskog vec iz Istocne Bosne gdje Hrvata nije bilo ni na mapi. Mislim da je ratno siroce, njegovi su stradali u cetnickim pokoljima u II svjetskom ratu. Srna je u ratno doba imao problema zbog toga sto su na njega gledali kao na Bosnjaka 8bez obzira sto mu je mati Hrvatica). Govorio je o tome kako su ga jedva prihvatili u Hajduku, cini mi se.

Josip wrote:

BaileyS wrote: Kakve sad ima veze gdje je Srna rodjen? Tema nije generalno o Hrvatima vec o bh Hrvatima a Srna se ni po kojem osnovu ne moze racunati bh Hrvatom. Otac mu nije iz Ljubuskog vec iz Istocne Bosne gdje Hrvata nije bilo ni na mapi. Mislim da je ratno siroce, njegovi su stradali u cetnickim pokoljima u II svjetskom ratu. Srna je u ratno doba imao problema zbog toga sto su na njega gledali kao na Bosnjaka 8bez obzira sto mu je mati Hrvatica). Govorio je o tome kako su ga jedva prihvatili u Hajduku, cini mi se.

• Evo samo za Josipa i sve druge mitologe....
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  Darijo Srna owes a huge debt to his father
  
  By Jonathan Wilson
  Last Updated: 1:31AM BST 01 Jun 2008
  
  Fortunate son: Srno is repaying his father for a lifetime of sacrifice
  
  When Darijo Srna left Croatia for Shakhtar Donetsk, he bought his father, Uzeir, a Mercedes. Two years later, as the midfielder's career in Ukraine progressed, he gave him a BMW.
  
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  "I know it is impossible to repay my father for everything he has done for me," he said, "but I have bought him the cars and I give him enough money to live a normal life now he is old, and that is the least I can do." The story of what Uzeir Srna went through before Darijo came into the world is, it turns out, anything but normal.
  
  
  Uzeir was born in Gornji Stopici in eastern Bosnia a year before the start of the Second World War.
  
  As the Germans advanced and were halted by Serb resistance, the front line washed back and forth over the village, forcing the Srna family to flee. By the summer of 1941, they mistakenly thought it was safe to return home.
  
  One night the Chetniks, the Serb nationalist paramilitaries, waging their own war within a war, entered the village and set fire to every house. Uzeir's father and his teenage brother, Safet, fled into the forest, carrying three-year-old Uzeir with them.
  
  "My mother was pregnant," said Uzeir. "And she and my sister were burned alive."
  
  They followed the trail of refugees to Bosanski Samac on Bosnia's northern border, but in the confusion Uzeir became separated from his father and brother. He eventually ended up in Slovenia where he was adopted by a local police officer.
  
  Back in Bosanski Samac, Uzeir's father found a job in a café, only to be killed by a stray bullet as he was caught in crossfire.
  
  In despair, Safet joined the army, but he didn't give up hope, and everywhere he went, he asked about his brother. A couple of years later, Safet's commanding officer, a Slovenian, told him about a Bosnian orphan who had been taken in by a family in Murska Sobota.
  
  As soon as he could, Safet headed north; incredibly, the orphan was indeed his brother. They returned to Bosanski Samac, where Uzeir, after leaving school, found work in a bakery. But as soon as he received his first pay packet, he bought a train ticket to Sarajevo, where he had relatives.
  
  It was there that his talent as a goalkeeper first became apparent, and he began playing for FK Sarajevo. Later he joined Celik, then a sizeable club in Bosnia, but was only ever a reserve.
  
  In a practice match at Metkovic in southern Croatia, though, the opposing keeper was injured and he was asked to replace him. When Celik returned to Bosnia, Uzeir stayed behind. And so it was, after a failed marriage and a short spell in France, that Uzeir, by then remarried to his present wife, Milka, set up home in Metkovic, where Darijo was born. And that is why he is playing for Croatia at Euro 2008.
  
  "Even though he was really small, you could see he was a great talent," Uzeir said. So great that Hajduk Split expressed an interest. That, though, wasn't the end of their troubles, for with the war still going on, there were many in Split who didn't want to see a Muslim signing for the club.
  
  "It was a difficult time," said Uzeir, "and your name was so important then. But the worst thing was that some coaches openly asked me to pay if I wanted Darijo to play there. Fortunately Darijo was so talented that when the youth-team managers saw him, they decided he had to stay." It's just as well for the Srnas had no money.
  
  That is not a problem any more.
  
  Uzeir and Milka still live in their old apartment in Metkovic, but not only are there two luxury cars in the garage, there is also an artificial football pitch nearby for the local youngsters to play on.
  
  "My father and my family mean everything to me," said Darijo. "I can't forget how they suffered as they tried to find money for me during my days at Hajduk. My father had a really, really difficult life and I am very proud that he can now live a peaceful life."

BaileyS wrote:Govorio je o tome kako su ga jedva prihvatili u Hajduku, cini mi se.

BaileyS wrote:

Ali Sami Yen wrote:
Sin Uzeirov Odabro čovjek da bude hrvat, ha ja.

Ne radi se o tome sta je on izabrao vec da se sigurno ne moze racunati u "talentovne bh Hrvate" ako mu je otac Bosnjak iz BiH a mati Hrvatica iz Hrvatske. Tema nije Srnin izbor reprezentacije vec navodni talenat u bh Hrvata.