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sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:20
nema odmora za ruskog agresora, valja se nastavit nesmiljeno topit!

Bloo wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:44

shalla wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:40 Fascinantna mi je ta doktrina "čekanja naredbe", isto ovo kontam već danima, jebote gruhaju po njima oni se grupišu i olakšavaju posao
Moj sin od 8 godina kad igramo npr kuglanja, što više raširi čunjeve da ih ne mogu odjednom srušiti

Pa zar mogu samoinicijativno išta?
Ti igraš sam, on igra sam - pokušaj uvesti stariju osobu koja će mu davati instrukcije i odobravati poteze jer je starija i iskusnija (mozda jeste, mozda nije - nebitno).

shalla wrote: ↑10/05/2022 10:04

Bloo wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:44

Pa zar mogu samoinicijativno išta?
Ti igraš sam, on igra sam - pokušaj uvesti stariju osobu koja će mu davati instrukcije i odobravati poteze jer je starija i iskusnija (mozda jeste, mozda nije - nebitno).

Pa ne kažem da trebaju samoinicijativno ali ono, nagon za preživljavanjem jbg, zar tebi nije nelogično i glupo da se u 50m grupiše 5 tenkova, haubica, čega god...

lajkujMe wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:32 Zamislite samo da je 95 postojala ova oprema.

drug_profi wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:59

sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:20
nema odmora za ruskog agresora, valja se nastavit nesmiljeno topit!

Tenk T90, jedan od najmodernijih kod Rusa, rasturen na proste faktore oruzjem iz 1946.

drug_profi wrote: ↑10/05/2022 10:10

lajkujMe wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:32 Zamislite samo da je 95 postojala ova oprema.

Zamisljam i obratno. Da smo napadnuti sa ovakvom opremom, dronovima i flir kamerama. Ne znam koliko bi nam pomogla odlucnost i to sto se borimo za goli zivot.
A bojim se da smo dosli u situaciju da sada zaostajemo potpuno iza komšija.

lajkujMe wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:32

sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:28

vojske 21 vijeka.. sve ono ostalo sto snimaju klipove i rade propagandne materijale, projektili vaki naki.. ovako bi zavrsili..

Sad vise nisam siguran koliko je nasa geografija pogodna za odbranu.
Ne kad imas Haubice precizne u Metar i Dronove od Bayre pa do jeftinijih DJI dronova s Flir kamerama.

Zamislite samo da je 95 postojala ova oprema.
Samo bi nam trebale dobre Haubice nekuh 50kom M777 i jedno 150 dronova.
Pih Oluja bi bila mala maca naspram ovoga

lajkujMe wrote: ↑10/05/2022 10:17 I da vidite razmjere "pozara"
Plavi krug je Kerson

shalla wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:40 Fascinantna mi je ta doktrina "čekanja naredbe", isto ovo kontam već danima, jebote gruhaju po njima oni se grupišu i olakšavaju posao
Moj sin od 8 godina kad igramo npr kuglanja, što više raširi čunjeve da ih ne mogu odjednom srušiti

Bloo wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:44

shalla wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:40 Fascinantna mi je ta doktrina "čekanja naredbe", isto ovo kontam već danima, jebote gruhaju po njima oni se grupišu i olakšavaju posao
Moj sin od 8 godina kad igramo npr kuglanja, što više raširi čunjeve da ih ne mogu odjednom srušiti

Pa zar mogu samoinicijativno išta?
Ti igraš sam, on igra sam - pokušaj uvesti stariju osobu koja će mu davati instrukcije i odobravati poteze jer je starija i iskusnija (mozda jeste, mozda nije - nebitno).

lajkujMe wrote: ↑10/05/2022 10:20 @sumirprimus

Meni je najzanimljivija ova tacka juzno od Kersona.

Pogledao sam na satelitu tu nema sume

drug_profi wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:59

sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:20
nema odmora za ruskog agresora, valja se nastavit nesmiljeno topit!

Tenk T90, jedan od najmodernijih kod Rusa, rasturen na proste faktore oruzjem iz 1946.

Airpower is potentially decisive in any war, but difficult to wield effectively. Air forces are dependent on an array of technologies that require highly trained personnel who can quickly set up what amounts to an airborne military ecosystem: airborne radar stations to provide command and control, fighters to protect and police the skies, refueling aircraft to keep everyone full of gas, electronic-warfare planes to keep enemy defenses suppressed, and a range of intelligence-gatherers and attack aircraft to locate and destroy enemy forces. These sorts of combined operations involve hundreds of aircraft and thousands of people in a tightly choreographed dance that takes a lifetime to master. But when managed correctly, these overlapping operations allow a military to dominate the skies, making life much easier for the ground or naval forces below.

Unfortunately for the Russians, the recent modernization of the Russian air force, although intended to enable it to conduct modern combined operations, was mostly for show. The Russians wasted money and effort on corruption and inefficiency. Though much was made of the flashy new equipment, such as the much-hyped SU-34 strike aircraft, the Russian air force continues to suffer from flawed logistics operations and the lack of regular, realistic training. Above all, the autocratic Russian kleptocracy does not trust low-ranking and middle-ranking officers, and so cannot allow the imaginative, flexible decision making that NATO air forces rely upon.

All this meant that when the invasion started, the Russian air force was incapable of running a well-thought-out, complex campaign. Instead of working to control the skies, Russia’s air force has mostly provided air support to ground troops or bombed Ukrainian cities. In this it has followed the traditional tactics of a continental power that privileges land forces. Focusing on ground troops can work if you have almost endless numbers of soldiers and are prepared to lose them. But so wedded is Russia to its history of successes on the ground that it fails to understand the importance of airpower.


“Russia has never fully appreciated the use of airpower beyond support to ground forces,” David A. Deptula, a retired U.S. Air Force lieutenant general, told us. “As a result, Russia, in all its wars, has never conceived of or run a strategic air campaign.”

Russian aircraft are instead left flying their straightforward missions, many of which use single aircraft without the mutual support from combined air operations that would be expected in an advanced NATO air force. The pilots are given a target; fly in quickly to attack it, in many cases relying on unguided munitions to try to hit their target; and then fly out and try to not get shot down. They are not allowed to act flexibly within their commanders’ intent to achieve a mission. They have task orders and they execute them, come what may. Even Russia’s vaunted intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities seem surprisingly weak. Rarely do Russian forces seem capable of identifying possible Ukrainian targets and deploying air assets to attack them swiftly enough to make a difference.

A_A_AKCIJA wrote: ↑10/05/2022 10:35

drug_profi wrote: ↑10/05/2022 09:59

Tenk T90, jedan od najmodernijih kod Rusa, rasturen na proste faktore oruzjem iz 1946.

Uh, nemoj tako. Nova, četvrta iteracija Carl Gustafa je mrak. Od svih prenosivih oružja ovog tipa ima najbolji izbor raketa. Anti tank, anti bunker za probijanje betona, trenutne za pješadije, pa do raketa sa vremenskim i proximity upaljačem.

Jedna džidža, sto namjena.