General War wrote: ↑27/01/2024 14:26
Tako je, detektujem ja to odmah kad neko gura svoje, vidi u daljem textu:
I sta tacno je ICJ nalozio Izraelu? manje vise-Pucaj dalje, pazi da ne ispadne genocid...ne znam sta su ionako izgubili.
pa onda ne znam što se gospodin Itamar toliko sekira i sikće. trebalo bi da mu objasniš pošto vladaš materijom.
Kojih Palestiaca; Jevreja, Hriscana ili PAK Muslimana?
Naravno da je debilizam gurati uporno svoju agendu pa ni ne provjeriti sta bi moglo pisati barem ono sto je dostupno i onda ne dijeliti epitete kao da se ne znamo...pa bi vidio sa prvi ukucavanjem sta kaze:
Can Palestinians sue Israel for land ownership? If so, how would that work legally speaking?
Of course, and they have.
Only problem is that the overwhelming majority of land in pre-state Israel was State Land, as listed in the Ottoman Registries - which the Palestinian Authirity has a copy of. A
lternatively, using the Ottoman Registries approx a dozen Jewish property owners in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood were successful in getting back properties seized from their families during the 1948 to 1967 Jordanian :occupation 
Eto ti meni nadji nesto drugacije nasta se palestinci-muslimani pozivaju.
Sve sto je neformalno, ne mozes suditi...na osnovu cega?
ohoho, tako je to kada se znanje crpi čeri pikingom i predstavljanjem da se poznaje nešto.
te pričice kako je došao Izrael otvorio ruke, ponudio ko je htio prihvatio su ipak samo pričice.
pa kad je već savjetovano, da vidimo šta kažu pravnici na ovu temu...
Unfortunately, the Ottomans instituted a land registration system in the late nineteenth century that led to wealthy Turks gaining legal title to land in Palestine through questionable means. Consequently, the Arab family farmer who may have owned the land for generations retained possession, but became a tenant of the wealthy absentee owner. 'The Fund" usually bought property from the wealthy absentee owners, giving the farmer no choice but dispossession. Sometimes, Palestinian Arabs refused to leave their land, so Turkish authorities would physically evict them at "The Fund's" request.
državno, ha?
pa da odgovorimo na ovo tvoje
Kojih Palestiaca; Jevreja, Hriscana ili PAK Muslimana?
Some individuals bought land for themselves, but a larger portion of the land was bought by a fund set up for the purpose of acquiring land. 'The Fund" would then lease the land to individual Jews, who were forbidden to sublease or employ non-Jews.
dakle neko drugi je ovdje svoju agendu gurao oči moje lijepe. jer i Britanci su tada još prepoznali problem
Although the British initially helped remove Palestinians from land bought by 'The Fund," they eventually recognized Arab displacement as a problem and passed an ordinance that required the purchasers to compensate the evicted tenants
zašto ako je državna zemlja?
The British Peel Commission tasked with investigating the escalating organized violence recommended partition into separate Jewish and Arab States. One problem with the proposed plan was that 225,000 Arabs would have to move from Jewish-occupied lands, but only 1250 Jews would have to move from Arab-occupied lands. The British rejected this recommendation in 1938 because they thought it would be unfair to force such a plan upon the Palestinian Arabs. Instead, in May 1939, the British announced that they wanted a single independent state, within ten years, which would be "governed in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community is safeguarded.
dakle nakon Balfurove deklaracije u koju se Izrael kune, a prije nastanka Izraela.
In the wake of increased tension between Britain and the Zionist, leader David Ben-Gurion realized that the Zionist cause must now align with the United States. During World War I, both Jews and Arabs began stockpiling weapons. When the war ended, the Jewish Agency began a campaign to get Britain out of Palestine.
sve mirno i zdogovorom. odnosno dobar si dok valjaš.
pa kad je stvarno puklo, al ono stvarno, kako se uspostavljala vlast na državnom zemljom, kako kažeš
Edgar O'Balance, a historian of the war wrote: "wherever the Israeli troops advanced into Arab country, the Arab
population was bulldozed out in front of them.' Avnery writes: "[it] typically sufficed to fire a few shots in the direction of Arab villages to see the inhabitance, who had not fought for generations, take flight."' Fear tactics were also used to move the populations as Israeli forces spread rumors about disease in Arab villages.' To ensure that the populations would not return, the Israelis often destroyed the empty houses.' The Israeli government then formalized a policy against destroying Arab houses, instead planting land mines around the empty villages and bringing in Jews to settle abandoned areas.
The gradual destruction of the abandoned Arab villages, the cultivation and/or destruction of Arab fields and the share-out of the Arab lands to
Jewish settlements, the establishment of new settlements on abandoned lands and sites and the settlement of Jewish immigrants in empty Arab housing in the countryside and in urban neighborhoods. Taken together, they assured that the refugees would have nowhere, and nothing to return to
The governing land law in the West Bank' 91 is the Ottoman Land Code (Land Code), as modified and developed by the British, Jordanians, and Israeli Military Authority.192 According to the Land Code, all land within the West Bank falls into one of the following three categories: (1) wakf lands, (2) mulk lands, and (3) miri, matruke, or mawat lands.193 Wakf lands are dedicated to pious purposes, like charity and houses of worship. Mulk lands are private property, which were given out by the Ottoman conquers of the area. As for the third category, the commonality between the three types of land is that the Emir or Sultan had a residual right to the land although he did not use it.195 Miri land is similar to a Lord's land in the English feudal system. Matruke land was given by the Sultan for public purposes such as building roads, cemeteries, etc. The third category, mawat land, was considered "dead land" because it lay far from the village. All regimes until 1967 recognized the right of the village to use the surrounding land for either a common pasture or future development of the village. The village inhabitants knew amongst themselves what land was owned by each family and what land was considered common. Therefore, they generally had no opportunity or need to register their land. The British mandate government introduced land registration to Palestine, and the Jordanian government continued it. Due to the slow pace of the process, however, only about one-third of West Bank's land was registered by 1967. After 1967, virtually no more land was registered because Israeli military authorities stopped the operation of the Settlement of Disputed Land Law by which land was registered.
Under the Land Code there was no category for state or public land.
Under the Land Code there was no category for state or public land.
Under the Land Code there was no category for state or public land.
dakle, prosto je laž da je to tako ostavljeno od strane Otomana, prosto jer su stoljećima bili feudalna država. i neko ko nije glup i bezobrazan bi povezao ovo. ali avaj.
pa hajmo onda pojašnjenje kako je igranka otišla dalje:
The British mandate government introduced this category through the 1922 Order of Council. Article 2 of this document defined "public lands" as "all lands in Palestine which are subject to the control of the government of Palestine by virtue of Treaty, Convention, Agreement or Succession and all lands which are or shall be acquired for the public service or otherwise. The Sultan's position as ultimate theoretical owner was transferred to the High Commissioner (over the third category of land: miri, matruke, or mawat lands). Accordingly, the High Commissioner was vested with all rights of the public land as a trustee for Palestine. Only about thirteen percent of the land in the West Bank was registered in the name of the state by 1967. Israeli Military rule, however, made it easier and easier to declare land state land. Before 1993, Israel had taken about forty percent of the West Bank
The most common means by which land in the West Bank was acquired for settlement began when the Ministerial Settlement Committee decided to establish a new settlement in the West Bank, or enlarge an existing one. After going through several organizations for approval, the Custodian of Absentee and State Lands pointed out the land that would be declared state land to the mukhtar (village elder). The mukhtar then had the responsibility to tell anyone who he thought owned plots within that area. The landowners were told that they could appeal to the Military Objection Committee (the Committee)Due to the vague identifications of the land to be taken, and the fact that many villagers were not on good terms with the mukhtar, who was often appointed by the military authorities, the first sign that one's land would be taken was
often a bulldozer plowing up privately-owned property.
If a Palestinian landowner wanted to appeal the seizure of his land, the first step was to find out the exact location of the area in
question. The appellant had the burden of proving that the land was not state land. Within forty-five days of receiving notice that the land would be taken, the appellant had to submit a survey map of the whole area prepared by a licensed surveyor and a sworn statement declaring the basis upon which ownership was based, accompanied by all documents on which the appellant based his claim. The appellant could not use receipts for tax payments or registration with the tax department as proof of ownership, and it was extremely difficult to prove ownership by use.
i tako dalje i tako dalje. da ne davim već predugim postom.
Sto se tice UN Palestina jeste drzava obzirom da joj je priznat takav status 2012. godine odnosno dobili su drzave promatraca, jer de facto nisu suvereni.
Da bi bili suverni moraju imati svoju teritoriju 1/1...Palestinci-Muslimani to uporno odbijaju.
dakle iz ovoga gore svega navedenoga, gle kako glupo i bezobrazno izgleda tvoj komentar. otimačina zemlje u punom zamahu, presijecanje palestinskih zajednica, ubijanje hamasovaca tamo gdje ih nema, konstantno nasilje koje tjera ljude da doslovno odu. a onda se pride ta zemlja ekspropira zbog "odsutnosti". i tako dalje, i tako dalje.
da ne pričamo o zatvaranju maloljetnika, ali jebiga nisu dovoljno bijeli da budu taoci.
nije da i nama ovdje nisu strane otimačine zemlje, ubijanje vlasnika, uništavanje sela i homogeniziranje teritorija. vjerujem da te to ne dotiče posebno pa možeš ovako površno srati i obraćati se ovdje ko da pričaš sa bombašima samoubicama.
glup i bezobrazan. kako sam i rekao. to ti je konstanta već duže vrijeme.
