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#326 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 22/11/2009 17:04
by elSaik
Samo da mahnem onima kojima je Supić bolji od Kene. :mrgreen: :skoljka:

#327 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 22/11/2009 17:51
by Neelix
masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.

#328 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 22/11/2009 20:08
by zecko_kupuz
Nisam ljubitelj ovog "polariziranja" među golmanima, ali nešto moram reći - Hasagić se u ovom dvomeču nahvatao lopti što Supić neće uspjeti za cijelu karijeru.
Supić je Supić, Hasagić je Hasagić. :P

#329 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 22/11/2009 20:24
by udrch
Hasagića volim ko brata..svaka mu čast za ono što je pružio u u baražu..
Ali brate mora poraditi na onom degažiranju..

#330 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 02:07
by pOZz
Neelix wrote:masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.
:lol:

To su sve osobine Nemanje Zmaja Ćirinog Sina Supića. ;-)

#331 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 17:52
by Richard Peti
Portsmouth recall keeper Begovic

Begovic initially joined Ipswich on loan until January
Ipswich Town's on-loan goalkeeper Asmir Begovic has been recalled by his parent club Portsmouth.
The 22-year-old is needed at Fratton Park after England international David James suffered a calf injury.
The Bosnia-Hercegovina international had become a popular figure at Portman Road after helping the club to a six-match unbeaten run.
Begovic was six weeks into his three- month loan and is likely to be replaced by Richard Wright.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 374039.stm

#332 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 17:58
by profil
SUbota, 28.11.2008 15:00 h
Portsmouth v Manchester United

Mogli bi ga i gledati sljedeci vikend, s obzirom na ostale tekme u istom terminu.

Blackburn Rovers v Stoke City
Fulham v Bolton Wanderers
Manchester City v Hull City
West Ham United v Burnley
Wigan Athletic v Sunderland

#333 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:29
by Eborg
Nadam se da će biti na golu a ne na klupi ako su ga već pozvali nazad.

#334 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:32
by Neelix
pOZz wrote:
Neelix wrote:masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.
:lol:

To su sve osobine Nemanje Zmaja Ćirinog Sina Supića. ;-)
inace je meni nebulozno reci da je "lopta isla pravo u golmana", jer to nije golmanova negativna osobina, nego pozitivna - covjek se zna postavljat. eh sad, posto se supicu za zlo uzimalo jer se zna postavit :? zasto ne i hasagicu? s tim da je supic imao i parada, a ne vidjoh keninu nijednu.

#335 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:35
by portal01
Neelix wrote:masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.

kad neko keni uvali 5 komada onda prestanite mahat....

to sto svaka lopta ide u kenu i sto on ne pravi parade... znaci samo da je on uvijek na lopti ... ko poznaje kakav golman treba biti bice mu jasno .... Gianluigi Bufon je godinama jedan od najboljih golmana na sviijetu .. ne paradira ni on svaku utakmicu

#336 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:37
by portal01
udrch wrote:Hasagića volim ko brata..svaka mu čast za ono što je pružio u u baražu..
Ali brate mora poraditi na onom degažiranju..
Sto se tice degaziranja Keno ima povredu prepona prema tome... razmisli:D

#337 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:39
by Neelix
portal01 wrote:
Neelix wrote:masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.

kad neko keni uvali 5 komada onda prestanite mahat....

to sto svaka lopta ide u kenu i sto on ne pravi parade... znaci samo da je on uvijek na lopti ... ko poznaje kakav golman treba biti bice mu jasno .... Gianluigi Bufon je godinama jedan od najboljih golmana na sviijetu .. ne paradira ni on svaku utakmicu
aha, al zato supic ne valja jer "sve lopte idu u njega" ?

...ili zato sto je srbin :oops:

#338 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:40
by Eborg
portal01 wrote:
udrch wrote:Hasagića volim ko brata..svaka mu čast za ono što je pružio u u baražu..
Ali brate mora poraditi na onom degažiranju..
Sto se tice degaziranja Keno ima povredu prepona prema tome... razmisli:D
Otkud sad to? Nije li povreda ramena već duže vrijeme?

#339 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 18:54
by Dammme
portal01 wrote:
Neelix wrote:masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.

kad neko keni uvali 5 komada onda prestanite mahat....

to sto svaka lopta ide u kenu i sto on ne pravi parade... znaci samo da je on uvijek na lopti ... ko poznaje kakav golman treba biti bice mu jasno .... Gianluigi Bufon je godinama jedan od najboljih golmana na sviijetu .. ne paradira ni on svaku utakmicu
Primio je Keno 2 puta po 4 komada. (Španija-BiH 4:1, Belgija-BiH 4:1), ali to ne znači da je Keno loš golman nego da je imao lošu obranu ispred (slučaj Belgije) ili da je protivnik bio superiorniji (slučaj Španije). Ali isto to važi i za Supića koji je primio 5 golova u totalno nebitnoj utakmici, sa odbranom koja nije smjela pogledati protivničkog igrača, a kamoli šta drugo da ne bi dobili parni žuti karton. I naravno uz "fenomenalnu selektorovu taktiku" (Muratović na boku :?: :!: ) šta možeš očekivati od golmana. Od početka ove teme sam tvrdio da je Keno naš prvi golman, ali i da ne treba pljuvati po Supiću kojem je jedina loša utakmica bila upravo ta protiv Španije. Što se Kene tiče, bio je jedan od naših najboljih igrača u baražu, a u Zenici i najbolji. U Zenici je i branio i igrao beka i bio playmaker, jer se taktika zasnivala na tome da on doda loptu špicevima što je posao play-a. Takođe treba reći da snosi dio krivice za primljeni gol u Lisabonu jer se lopta odbila od zemlje na 3 metra od linije. Naravno nije jedini niti najveći krivac za taj gol, ali mu je i prije tog gola prošlo 2-3 lopte kroz peterac, a da nije reagovao na njih. U Zenici je imao problema sa degažiranjem, ali to je vjerovatno posljedica povrede prepona. U Lisabonu je "morao" driblati protivnika, što mislim da mu je najveća mana. Sve ostalo se može dotjerati. U Zenici to nije radio znači može se to ispraviti kad se hoće. Uglavnom moje mišljenje je da je Keno prvi golman repke. Da Begovića treba probati u prijateljskim, a vremena na žalost ima(da smo prošli baraž ne bi ga bilo baš toliko). Da Supiću treba ostaviti otvorena vrata reprezentacije, ako bude počeo braniti u ovom ili nekom drugom klubu.

#340 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 19:05
by michio
Begovic je nas najbolji golman. Hasagic i Supic su neuvjerljivi. Kod gola u Portugalu lijepo se vidi kako se predomislja da li da intervenise ili ne.

#341 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 19:51
by profil
Eborg wrote:Nadam se da će biti na golu a ne na klupi ako su ga već pozvali nazad.


Vrlo vjerovatno da hoce, s obzirom da je Ashdown, koji je mijenjao Jamesa, bio poprilicno los, i da je izgleda vec stavljen na transfer listu kako su pozvali Begovica nazad. Nisam znao da im je Niemi treci golman. Nekad bio klasa.

Evo clanak (navijacki) i par komentara.
Begovic recalled
With David James set for a spell on the sidelines The Pompey Site has confirmed that Asmir Begovic has been recalled.

This happens despite the fact that his loan with Ipswich was not due to end until mid-January and we still have Jamie Ashdown and Antti Niemi as 'back-up' keepers...

I would imagine that it 'almost certainly' means that Begovic will be in goal for the Manyoo game, right?

As much as I have nothing against Ashdown, I would really hope that this is the case as I could see Begovic being furious at being recalled from regular 1st team football just to sit on the bench again - and that 'could' lead to problems.

Then again I would imagine that Ashdown would not be best pleased should Begovic come back to the club and become the no.1 again instantly!

For me Ashdown is still suffering with his injury, and I think I would not be alone in thinking that his back is going to b a long-term thing. As mentioned earlier today you could visibly see from the stands at Stoke that he was not happy, and the sight of Niemi warming up only added further worries for me.

'Luckily' Stoke did not put Ashdown under too much pressure, but I think you can safely say that Manyoo will put us under a hell of a lot more, so Begovic needs to be pulling on the Pompey shirt this weekend.

I could not really say how he did at Ipswich, as I did not see him, but I do know they were unbeaten during his 6 games for them and he kept 2 clean sheets during this period.
No doubt Beg :D would have played yesterday had James been injured earlier. Was a real hit at Ipswich and is was great experience for him.
eastneydave

Can't wait to see him back between the posts for us, it's been pretty clear for a while that he'll be our long term number one from the start of next season and the more premier league experience he can get before then the better.
Battenberg

Quite miffed with the goal conceded, Ashdown should have done better. DJ is a massive loss, hope he is back for Burnley, a must win match!!!
storagematt

I guess we'll know more about Jamo's injury later today or tomorrow when they find out the results of the scan. Hart is talking about him being out for 3 weeks. Its a great shame, but I am relieved we will have Begovic returning to fall back on, I've been very impressed with him. Ashdown's not a bad keeper at all, but Begovic is better. Especially if Ashdown is being hampered by this back injury.
tracyc

Ashdown's put in a transfer request after Begovic's recall ,according to posters on other boards
yellowcheesemonkey

Thats why Ashdown can't be sold Tracyc, his back has been a problem for a long time. I also think Begovic is a really good keeper in the making, get him in there for Manyooo!
Mike1954

I've never rated Ashdown, I remember watching him for several matches when he had a run in goal and don't recall him saving a shot. Every shot goes in, sure he can catch and collect but struggles massively with shots. Begovic has the potential to be a great keeper but is still young and experienced. I'd definitely prefer to have him in the team but we have to not expect to much of him. The weight of expectation can break many players!
stooH

Begovic should be starting this weekend. It was sad and frightening to see Ashdown yesterday in goal. Why not Niemmi; a goalkeeper with massive expierence of the PL? Thank God, our defence dealt very well with all that throw ins as Ashdown did not even try to reach out for one! I wonder what would have happened if James was in goal for Fuller's shot!
Pompey Malta

#342 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 19:55
by profil
dupli

#343 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 23/11/2009 20:00
by Eborg
Ne zvuči loše! :thumbup:

#344 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 01:33
by Globus
Pocinjem da cijenim Supica :D :D


#345 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 07:50
by Meho Kodro
Hasagic je No1, ostali nek cekaju...

#346 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 12:36
by elSaik
Neelix wrote:
pOZz wrote:
Neelix wrote:masemo i mi tebi. kad odbrani keno 2 lopte da ne idu pravo u njega, kad napravi 1 (jednu) paradu, mozda prestanemo mahat.
:lol:

To su sve osobine Nemanje Zmaja Ćirinog Sina Supića. ;-)
inace je meni nebulozno reci da je "lopta isla pravo u golmana", jer to nije golmanova negativna osobina, nego pozitivna - covjek se zna postavljat. eh sad, posto se supicu za zlo uzimalo jer se zna postavit :? zasto ne i hasagicu? s tim da je supic imao i parada, a ne vidjoh keninu nijednu.
Možda jer nije bilo nijednog šuta za koji je bila potrebna parada? :-? Možda je trebao samo za Neelixa da skoči koji put. A ono što je odbranio u revanšu Supića nikada ne bi pogodilo.

#347 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 12:54
by Neelix
jelde, ni kod gola u lisabonu nije bio centarsut za bacit se i uhvatit loptu?

#348 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 13:48
by Globus
Neelix wrote:jelde, ni kod gola u lisabonu nije bio centarsut za bacit se i uhvatit loptu?
Ovo je istina ..Golman je ondje morao izletit bacit se na loptu bez obzira na sve ...golman kada krene ne smije se vracat na gol bez obzira na sve .. ako je kreno na loptu nek zavrsi a ne na pola da se vrati ...A imo je Hasagic takvih izlijetanja ..Njegova jedina greska koja nas je kostala je ovaj gol u Lisabonu ... a poslije toga me iznenadio .. A Supic me moze iznenadit samo u negativnom smislu on odbrane imao nije kako treba moze pricat ko sta hoce

#349 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 15:40
by Dammme
Neelix wrote:jelde, ni kod gola u lisabonu nije bio centarsut za bacit se i uhvatit loptu?
I prije gola je prošlo 2-3 lopte kroz peterac, a da Keno nije reagovao. E sad da li je Keno pogriješio u procijeni ili mu je rečeno da ne ide sa linije, to ne znam?

#350 Re: Supić vs. Hasagić vs. Begović

Posted: 26/11/2009 15:48
by Dammme
Globus wrote:
Neelix wrote:jelde, ni kod gola u lisabonu nije bio centarsut za bacit se i uhvatit loptu?
Ovo je istina ..Golman je ondje morao izletit bacit se na loptu bez obzira na sve ...golman kada krene ne smije se vracat na gol bez obzira na sve .. ako je kreno na loptu nek zavrsi a ne na pola da se vrati ...A imo je Hasagic takvih izlijetanja ..Njegova jedina greska koja nas je kostala je ovaj gol u Lisabonu ... a poslije toga me iznenadio .. A Supic me moze iznenadit samo u negativnom smislu on odbrane imao nije kako treba moze pricat ko sta hoce
Što se Kene tiče tu se slažemo, pogotovo u dijelu za koji kažeš "poslije toga me je iznenadio". Pretpostavljam da misliš na Zenicu. Jedna od njegovih najboljih utakmica u dresu reprezentacije.
Što se tiče Supića se ne slažem apsolutno. Pa ljudi je li dosta više pljuvati po čovjeku koji nam je valjao u 4 utakmice i imao jednu lošu protiv Španije(uz to i najnebitniju)? I on je jedan od igrača koji je osjetio kako Ćiro pravda poraze. Doživio je isto ono što je prije njega doživio Nadarević, a poslije njega Miske i Medunjanin. Možda on nije kvalitet za reprezentaciju i možda nikad više neće biti pozvan, ali pljuvati po njemu je bezveze.