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Maxxtro wrote: ↑28/08/2020 22:07
Nisam mislio da je moguce vise sarkazma utrpati u post, ali izgleda ne dovoljno i za nekoga ko podrzava Trumpa, logicno. Pa da budem kristalno jasan. Da, itekako je pedofilski to govoriti ili u najmanju ruku granici sa pedofilijom. Ne, ja to ne radim. Odgovor je bio dakle krajnje sarkastican, namijenjen kako vidis ovom tvom kolegi koji optuzuje Bidena da je pedofil zato sto djecu ljubi po glavi i miluje po licu, a s druge strane ignorise video gdje Trump prakticno govori 10godisnjoj curici kako ce je jebat za 10 godina. Da, ovaj tvoj odgovor u vezi takve vrste seksualnog uznemiravanja je itekako primjeren. S druge strane, ti priznajes da podrzavas takvog covjeka.

Post ti je dvosmislen...priznajem, nisam ga procitao do kraja...nego preletio preko njega.
Moras takve stvari staviti u kontekst, a ne iz vedra neba pricati o desetogodisnjim djevojcicama...

Takve stvari nisu u redu, nebitno ko o njima govorio ili ih radio.

Ista je stvar ili Trump mastao o tome ili ih Biden mirisao.

Velkoski wrote: ↑28/08/2020 22:05 Pitanje je hoće li biti blizu pobjede uopšte, kakav landslide

Ja ne vidim kako će biti reelectan, ali eto sve je moguće

Ko kaze, Fredo on CNN?

Logika

domi wrote: ↑28/08/2020 22:28
Post ti je dvosmislen...priznajem, nisam ga procitao do kraja...nego preletio preko njega.
Moras takve stvari staviti u kontekst, a ne iz vedra neba pricati o desetogodisnjim djevojcicama...

Takve stvari nisu u redu, nebitno ko o njima govorio ili ih radio.

Ista je stvar ili Trump mastao o tome ili ih Biden mirisao.

Dvije stvari zakljucujem iz tvog posta. Prva, mnogo te uznemirilo kad je neki anonimus sa foruma sarkasticno rekao to, a ocito ne dovoljno kada to nesarkasticno kaze predsjednik kojeg i dalje podrzavas, uprkos tome.
Druga, apsolutno je isto kada neko poljubi dijete u kosu i sapuce im nesto (mislim da je Biden to radio), ili kada ko Trump kaze djeci da ce ih jebat kada postanu punoljetna. To je sve u 5 deka (ovo je opet bio sarkazam za tvoju informaciju). Treba se covjek pazit da slucajno ne pomiluje tudje dijete po glavi, moglo bi se pogresno shvatit.

Laid back, ex-VP

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... gular-joe/

Maxxtro wrote: ↑29/08/2020 10:28
Dvije stvari zakljucujem iz tvog posta. Prva, mnogo te uznemirilo kad je neki anonimus sa foruma sarkasticno rekao to, a ocito ne dovoljno kada to nesarkasticno kaze predsjednik kojeg i dalje podrzavas, uprkos tome.
Druga, apsolutno je isto kada neko poljubi dijete u kosu i sapuce im nesto (mislim da je Biden to radio), ili kada ko Trump kaze djeci da ce ih jebat kada postanu punoljetna. To je sve u 5 deka (ovo je opet bio sarkazam za tvoju informaciju). Treba se covjek pazit da slucajno ne pomiluje tudje dijete po glavi, moglo bi se pogresno shvatit.

Kao sto rekoh, tvoj post sam preletio, ne procitavsi ga do kraja i apsolutno se slazem s tobom.
Medjutim, u ovom trenutku imamo dva kandidata, jedan od njih dvojice ce biti predsjednik, znaci to nam je izbor, obojica su imali gafove po ovom pitanju, te su po tom pitanju mane vise isti.

Iako, po mom misljenju...ipak je gore to sto Biden, kad god za to dobije priliku, njusi, ljubi, miluje maloljetne djevojcice, iako se vidi da to djeca ne vole i da ih cini nelagodnim, nego Trump sto masta o njima kakve ce biti kroz 10 godina.
Opet, ne opravdavam Trumpa.

Na kraju krajeva, vi - liberali, i dan danas sa najvecim postovanjem pricate o Bilu Klintonu, a pogotovo Bosnje na njega svrs...ju - sto je nidje veze, znaci dokazanom silovatelju, kako za vrijeme svog boravka u BK, kao najmocniji covjek svijeta, tako i ranije dok je bio, recimo, Guverner Arkansasa.
Da ne govorim, o njegovim letovima Lolita Expresom i izletima na Epsteinovo imanje.

Ja sam, a kako vidim i vecina s kim pricam, vise anti-demokrata, nego pro-trump, mada mi se svidja na koji nacin se ophodi, kako prema svojim protivnicima, tako i prema medijima.

Ponavljam, ovi izbori ce biti glas PROTIV Demokratske partije i njihovog odnosa prema situaciji koja nas je zadesila, otkad je Kina planski prosirila China virus po citavom svijetu, nakon sto je Trump odlucio da promijeni uslove Trade deala izmedju Amerike i vecine zemalja, pogotovo sa njima - Komunistima Kine.

CNN, odnosno, Fredo i Limun, vas ne izvjestavaju istinito....narodu je dosta i BLM terorista i nacina na koji Demokrate upravljaju svojim teritorijem.

Bez obzira sto su svi MSM, iliti mainstream mediji, na strani Demokrata i sto cenzurisu bilo kakve pozitivne vijesti o Trumpu i njegovom radu, ukljucujuci ovdje pogotovo FB, koji cenzurise sve sto nije u skladu sa oficijalnim stavom DP, a narocito cenzuru koju vrse nad proTrump crncima, kojih, vjerovao ili ne ima pofin broj i koji ga javno podrzavaju, a koji imaju milionske pratitelje.


Demokratsku partiju danas mozemo opisati u dvije rijeci: nasilje i mrznja....

Ne morate glasati za Trumpa, samo nemojte glasati za Demokrate.

corolla02 wrote: ↑29/08/2020 15:54 Laid back, ex-VP

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... gular-joe/

Rusimo mitove o demokratama, kao dobrim momcima i o Demokratskoj partiji, kao zastitniku obicnih gradjana, and feeling daaaaamn good about it.

domi wrote: ↑29/08/2020 20:31

corolla02 wrote: ↑29/08/2020 15:54 Laid back, ex-VP

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... gular-joe/

Rusimo mitove o demokratama, kao dobrim momcima i o Demokratskoj partiji, kao zastitniku obicnih gradjana, and feeling daaaaamn good about it.

nemam sta rusiti, tako je kako je; vanjska politika i cilj je bukvalno isti kod obje partije; u unutrasnjem uredenju se malo vise razlikuju; na kraju krajeva, presjednik vrlo malo ima utjecaja na opstu ekonomiju, pogotovo individualnu ekonomiju...

corolla02 wrote: ↑29/08/2020 20:35
nemam sta rusiti, tako je kako je; vanjska politika i cilj je bukvalno isti kod obje partije; u unutrasnjem uredenju se malo vise razlikuju; na kraju krajeva, presjednik vrlo malo ima utjecaja na opstu ekonomiju, pogotovo individualnu ekonomiju...

ima utjecaj na medjunarodnu...

sad, nisu samo demokrate krive za nezavidan polozaj amerike, dosta su tome doprinjeli i republikanci...i jedni i drugi imaju svoje dealove po svijetu....al' zato je tu orange power , da im stavi soli na rep, jednima i drugima.

zato ga ni vecina republikanskog establismenta ne gotivi.

bush, recimo, vise gotivi barak "the privileged one" obamu, koji je kod njega dolazio jos kao mali djecak, nego sto gotivi trumpa.

domi wrote: ↑29/08/2020 20:55

corolla02 wrote: ↑29/08/2020 20:35
nemam sta rusiti, tako je kako je; vanjska politika i cilj je bukvalno isti kod obje partije; u unutrasnjem uredenju se malo vise razlikuju; na kraju krajeva, presjednik vrlo malo ima utjecaja na opstu ekonomiju, pogotovo individualnu ekonomiju...

ima utjecaj na medjunarodnu...

sad, nisu samo demokrate krive za nezavidan polozaj amerike, dosta su tome doprinjeli i republikanci...i jedni i drugi imaju svoje dealove po svijetu....al' zato je tu orange power , da im stavi soli na rep, jednima i drugima.

zato ga ni vecina republikanskog establismenta ne gotivi.

bush, recimo, vise gotivi barak "the privileged one" obamu, koji je kod njega dolazio jos kao mali djecak, nego sto gotivi trumpa.

ma Pence vodi drzavu i kongress, zuti je tu samo maketa, simbolicno, bas kao i kruna u UK; nema kad cova, okupiro ga TV i Twitter

ps
I zuti je sad dio establishmenta

Narod ce suditi demokratima zbog njihovog odnosa prema situaciji oko virusa... a 90% poluga vlasti kod republikanaca Nemoj dalje svega ti...

oni uvijek traze, obje partije, krivicu u nekom trecem za svoje lapsuse jbg, americka posla...

ultima_palabra wrote: ↑29/08/2020 21:01 Narod ce suditi demokratima zbog njihovog odnosa prema situaciji oko virusa... a 90% poluga vlasti kod republikanaca Nemoj dalje svega ti...

Za vrijeme China virusa, zarad politickih interesa, svi Guverneri i gradonacelnici iz DP, su zatvorili ekonomiju....prije svega male biznise. Ultimativno su im zabranjivali da privredjuju, hapsili ih pri pokusajima da otvore svoje radnje...Strasili ih brojkama umrlih, navodno od China virusa...zatvorili su te iste gradjane u njihove kuce, bez ikakvih uputa kako da se bore protiv "nevidljivog neprijatelja".....osim znaci da ostanu u svojim kucama, ne izlaze napolje, da se distanciraju jedni od drugih i da cekaju vakcinu.
Da li je ijedan doktor, ukljucujuci i Bil Gatesovog cimere sa Cornell univerziteta, Faucija davao savjete kako da poboljsamo imunitet, da se prirodno pokusamo oduprijeti ovom virusus, ako i svim ostalima.

Istovremeno su dopustali svojim clanovima, BLM i Antifi, da bez ikakvih problema, u grupama od vise hiljada terorise, pali, pljacka, maltretira....

Cilj im je bio da uruse ekonomiju i da izazovu rasne nemire, kako bi sigurnosna situacija pred same izbore bila sto gora.

Gradonacelnik LA je bio zaprijetio, svojim gradjanima, krajem maja mislim, da nece smjeti izaci iz svojih kuca dok se ne nadje lijek....
Cak je implementirao Snitch program....zahtijevajuci od stanovnika da prijavljuju clanove svoje familije, komsije i sve ostale ukoliko budu krsili njegove zakone po tom pitanju.....

Da, Demokrate su itekako odgovorne za trenutno stanje u zemlji...kako ekonmsko, tako i sigurnosno....

corolla02 wrote: ↑29/08/2020 21:00



ps
I zuti je sad dio establishmenta

svakako da jeste....uvijek je i bio....nisam ni rekao drugacije

ali je problem u tome sto vecina, a posebno american-bosnians, kako medju njima, a tako i na ovom forumu, misle da su demokrate zastupnici obicnih ljudi, radnicke klase....sto je moronluk na kvadrat.

i ja licno trumpa podrzavam najvise zbog situacije koja je nastala pojavom China virusa, koji je za cilj imao da oslabi americku ekonomiju, sto je zauzvrat dovelo sigurnosno i egzistencijalno stanje obicnih gradjana u pitanje.

Law and Order!

Ne morate dati svoj glas Trumpu, samo nemojte glasati za Demokrate!

Dobar članak koji je ujedno i upozorenje za demokrate da se populizam Trumpa i republikanske stranke ne shvati olako i nešto
što se može jednostavno prevazići.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... cans-peril

In assessing the Republican national convention, liberal columnists poured forth a torrent of bile and scorn. Some sample headlines from the Washington Post: “The GOP Convention Just Ripped the Mask off Trump’s Corruption and Lies.” “Trump Shows us the Limits of Running the Country Like a Reality TV Show.” “Trump’s Choice for America: Democracy or White Supremacy?” “What Country Does Mike Pence Live In?” “The Latest Chaos at the Convention Reveals Trump as a Miserable Failure.” “To sum up,” Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Post columnist, wrote in a representative passage, “the Republican party has dropped any pretense of a policy platform, throwing its lot in with a racist, xenophobic and compulsively dishonest man who creates chaos and dysfunction and is the subject of multiple investigations relating to his finances.”

For those of us who devoutly desire Trump’s defeat, the Republican convention did seem a miasma of bromides and bombast, hypocrisy and hyperbole, fawning and evasion. The columnists’ lockstep bashing of Trump, however, is revealing in its own way. It shows the extent to which the liberal commentariat has become an arm of the Democratic party. It also suggests their remarkable lack of curiosity and interest in how the convention played with ordinary voters. And, however cynical and manipulative the show may have been, it seemed in many ways an effective one.

Take, for instance, the naturalization ceremony Trump conducted in the White House. One columnist, in a typical swipe, blasted the president for “crassly reducing five newly minted US citizens to photogenic props”. But those props included a medical worker from Ghana, a substitute teacher from Sudan, a construction worker from Bolivia, and a software engineer from India, all of whom were asked by the president to share their stories. The inductees were clearly moved and gratified by the attention, helping make Trump’s Muslim ban and references to Mexican rapists seem distant memories.

The president projected similar empathy in a meeting with frontline workers, among them a police officer who contracted and recovered from Covid, a trucker who continued to haul goods during the pandemic, a teacher and two nurses. “I want to thank you all very much, a fantastic group of people,” said Trump, helping distract attention from just how incompetent and disastrous his response to the virus has been.

Every night, hardworking men and women appeared to attest to the American spirit. There were cops, veterans, a dairy farmer, a fisherman from Maine, a foundry owner from Wisconsin and a logger who talked about all the mills in Minnesota that had shut down during the Obama-Biden years and which Trump was fighting to keep open.

Most extraordinary of all was the nonstop procession of African Americans expressing their support for the president. They included retired football star Herschel Walker, South Carolina senator Tim Scott (who memorably described how his family “went from cotton to Congress in one lifetime”) and a group of tenants of New York public housing who praised Trump for providing funds to improve their buildings while the city’s progressive mayor sat by.

In another White House event, Jon Ponder, a thrice-convicted felon, recounted how he had found Christ in prison and how after his release he created a re-entry program for ex-prisoners. Ponder testified to Trump’s commitment to criminal justice reform. Trump then surprised Ponder by pardoning him. The event, opined one columnist, was “part of an all-out attempt to whitewash the administration’s shocking racism”, but it’s doubtful that the conservative Christians tuning in saw it that way. (After Trump, the names most frequently invoked at the convention were God and Lincoln.)

In a column titled “Sorry, Democrats. Trump’s Convention Is Working”, David Von Drehle, in a rare dissent from the hegemony at the Post, pointed out that gestures like Ponder’s pardon were aimed not only at swaying uncommitted African Americans but also at reassuring white voters “who don’t want to believe they are voting for a racist”.

All this was laced with apocalyptic references to the rioting, looting, mob rule, businesses set on fire, anarchists roaming the streets and assaults on police officers that have occurred in many American cities. The Republicans lost no opportunity to pin the blame on the Democrats who run them – thus obscuring the fact that the mayhem is occurring on the watch of a president who came into office promising to end “American carnage”. The grim roll-call of African Americans gunned down by the police rated hardly a mention during the four-day conclave.

During their own convention, the Democrats effectively showcased their vision of a rainbow America embracing all colors, generations, genders, sexual orientations and national origins. While I watched it, however, I worried whether ordinary blue-collar Americans would feel part of it. Biden held one notable session with union members, but it was fleeting and forgettable.

After Hillary Clinton’s fatal failure to connect with the working class in 2016, the need for Democrats to reach out to them has been clear. To judge from their convention, however, they remain as lumbering and clueless as ever. Clearly, their program – building infrastructure, investing in early education, expanding access to healthcare – would serve ordinary Americans better than that of the Republicans, yet the Republican party, led by a self-aggrandizing plutocrat, continues to outdo them in appearing the champion of working families – the greatest feat of stagecraft of all.

The day after the Democratic convention ended, MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell asked the Ohio senator Sherrod Brown how he thought the event had played in the rust belt. Brown quickly admonished her for using that term, saying that the region was not rusting but revitalizing. Mitchell accepted the rebuke, but, to her credit, she pressed Brown on why Trump continues to have such a hold on working-class white people in the Midwest. The Democrats, said Brown, must do a better job of exposing Trump’s “phony populism”. After the Republicans’ skillfully choreographed show, that task seems more urgent than ever.

I Michael Moore upozorava da trenutne ankete ne idu baš na ruku Bidenu u tzv swing states.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning

domi wrote: ↑29/08/2020 22:21 ...
Ne morate dati svoj glas Trumpu, samo nemojte glasati za Demokrate!

Gdje god da živite i plaćate porez glasajte za koga god vam razum i srce žele.

Biramo manje zlo tj. Plave

Trump je bolji no Ted Cruz ali je daleko ispod Bidena; Biden je bolji igrač i za Bosnu tako da...

Trump je debil.
Da Demokrate stave magarca kao kandidata glasacu za njega jer necu da me predstavlja debil.

Evo tip analizira Trumpov nastup; dalje, tvrdi da ima izvrsan način koje ljude vodi u njegov krug i da mu vjeruju tj. Slijede ga



Licno, Trump samo ponavlja ko papagaj vidi se u videu i kupuje vrijeme te na kraju naikakve činjenice ne iznese... znaci ne vidim nikakav nastup koji bi mene zaintrigirao kod njeg ili da glasam za njegovu ciku, vrisku, maloovazavanje, neznanje, cirkus i sl

domi wrote: ↑29/08/2020 22:14

ultima_palabra wrote: ↑29/08/2020 21:01 Narod ce suditi demokratima zbog njihovog odnosa prema situaciji oko virusa... a 90% poluga vlasti kod republikanaca Nemoj dalje svega ti...

Za vrijeme China virusa, zarad politickih interesa, svi Guverneri i gradonacelnici iz DP, su zatvorili ekonomiju....prije svega male biznise. Ultimativno su im zabranjivali da privredjuju, hapsili ih pri pokusajima da otvore svoje radnje...Strasili ih brojkama umrlih, navodno od China virusa...zatvorili su te iste gradjane u njihove kuce, bez ikakvih uputa kako da se bore protiv "nevidljivog neprijatelja".....osim znaci da ostanu u svojim kucama, ne izlaze napolje, da se distanciraju jedni od drugih i da cekaju vakcinu.
Da li je ijedan doktor, ukljucujuci i Bil Gatesovog cimere sa Cornell univerziteta, Faucija davao savjete kako da poboljsamo imunitet, da se prirodno pokusamo oduprijeti ovom virusus, ako i svim ostalima.

Istovremeno su dopustali svojim clanovima, BLM i Antifi, da bez ikakvih problema, u grupama od vise hiljada terorise, pali, pljacka, maltretira....

Cilj im je bio da uruse ekonomiju i da izazovu rasne nemire, kako bi sigurnosna situacija pred same izbore bila sto gora.

Gradonacelnik LA je bio zaprijetio, svojim gradjanima, krajem maja mislim, da nece smjeti izaci iz svojih kuca dok se ne nadje lijek....
Cak je implementirao Snitch program....zahtijevajuci od stanovnika da prijavljuju clanove svoje familije, komsije i sve ostale ukoliko budu krsili njegove zakone po tom pitanju.....

Da, Demokrate su itekako odgovorne za trenutno stanje u zemlji...kako ekonmsko, tako i sigurnosno....

I usput spasili koji milion zivota... nisu nista radili sto nisu i republikanski guverneri, samo su to uradili ranije i konzistentno. Jedini koji je nesto slabije radio je Newsom u Kaliforniji.

Kad gledas obicni approval rating i corona approval, demokratski guverneri imaju corona approval veci za po 10-15%, dok Trump ima minus od 10tak posto na vec ionako slab rezultat.

corolla02 wrote: ↑30/08/2020 01:05 Evo tip analizira Trumpov nastup; dalje, tvrdi da ima izvrsan način koje ljude vodi u njegov krug i da mu vjeruju tj. Slijede ga



Licno, Trump samo ponavlja ko papagaj vidi se u videu i kupuje vrijeme te na kraju naikakve činjenice ne iznese... znaci ne vidim nikakav nastup koji bi mene zaintrigirao kod njeg ili da glasam za njegovu ciku, vrisku, maloovazavanje, neznanje, cirkus i sl

Pa otprilike taktika ko trolu na forumu.

dale cooper wrote: ↑29/08/2020 23:21 Dobar članak koji je ujedno i upozorenje za demokrate da se populizam Trumpa i republikanske stranke ne shvati olako i nešto
što se može jednostavno prevazići.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... cans-peril

In assessing the Republican national convention, liberal columnists poured forth a torrent of bile and scorn. Some sample headlines from the Washington Post: “The GOP Convention Just Ripped the Mask off Trump’s Corruption and Lies.” “Trump Shows us the Limits of Running the Country Like a Reality TV Show.” “Trump’s Choice for America: Democracy or White Supremacy?” “What Country Does Mike Pence Live In?” “The Latest Chaos at the Convention Reveals Trump as a Miserable Failure.” “To sum up,” Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Post columnist, wrote in a representative passage, “the Republican party has dropped any pretense of a policy platform, throwing its lot in with a racist, xenophobic and compulsively dishonest man who creates chaos and dysfunction and is the subject of multiple investigations relating to his finances.”

For those of us who devoutly desire Trump’s defeat, the Republican convention did seem a miasma of bromides and bombast, hypocrisy and hyperbole, fawning and evasion. The columnists’ lockstep bashing of Trump, however, is revealing in its own way. It shows the extent to which the liberal commentariat has become an arm of the Democratic party. It also suggests their remarkable lack of curiosity and interest in how the convention played with ordinary voters. And, however cynical and manipulative the show may have been, it seemed in many ways an effective one.

Take, for instance, the naturalization ceremony Trump conducted in the White House. One columnist, in a typical swipe, blasted the president for “crassly reducing five newly minted US citizens to photogenic props”. But those props included a medical worker from Ghana, a substitute teacher from Sudan, a construction worker from Bolivia, and a software engineer from India, all of whom were asked by the president to share their stories. The inductees were clearly moved and gratified by the attention, helping make Trump’s Muslim ban and references to Mexican rapists seem distant memories.

The president projected similar empathy in a meeting with frontline workers, among them a police officer who contracted and recovered from Covid, a trucker who continued to haul goods during the pandemic, a teacher and two nurses. “I want to thank you all very much, a fantastic group of people,” said Trump, helping distract attention from just how incompetent and disastrous his response to the virus has been.

Every night, hardworking men and women appeared to attest to the American spirit. There were cops, veterans, a dairy farmer, a fisherman from Maine, a foundry owner from Wisconsin and a logger who talked about all the mills in Minnesota that had shut down during the Obama-Biden years and which Trump was fighting to keep open.

Most extraordinary of all was the nonstop procession of African Americans expressing their support for the president. They included retired football star Herschel Walker, South Carolina senator Tim Scott (who memorably described how his family “went from cotton to Congress in one lifetime”) and a group of tenants of New York public housing who praised Trump for providing funds to improve their buildings while the city’s progressive mayor sat by.

In another White House event, Jon Ponder, a thrice-convicted felon, recounted how he had found Christ in prison and how after his release he created a re-entry program for ex-prisoners. Ponder testified to Trump’s commitment to criminal justice reform. Trump then surprised Ponder by pardoning him. The event, opined one columnist, was “part of an all-out attempt to whitewash the administration’s shocking racism”, but it’s doubtful that the conservative Christians tuning in saw it that way. (After Trump, the names most frequently invoked at the convention were God and Lincoln.)

In a column titled “Sorry, Democrats. Trump’s Convention Is Working”, David Von Drehle, in a rare dissent from the hegemony at the Post, pointed out that gestures like Ponder’s pardon were aimed not only at swaying uncommitted African Americans but also at reassuring white voters “who don’t want to believe they are voting for a racist”.

All this was laced with apocalyptic references to the rioting, looting, mob rule, businesses set on fire, anarchists roaming the streets and assaults on police officers that have occurred in many American cities. The Republicans lost no opportunity to pin the blame on the Democrats who run them – thus obscuring the fact that the mayhem is occurring on the watch of a president who came into office promising to end “American carnage”. The grim roll-call of African Americans gunned down by the police rated hardly a mention during the four-day conclave.

During their own convention, the Democrats effectively showcased their vision of a rainbow America embracing all colors, generations, genders, sexual orientations and national origins. While I watched it, however, I worried whether ordinary blue-collar Americans would feel part of it. Biden held one notable session with union members, but it was fleeting and forgettable.

After Hillary Clinton’s fatal failure to connect with the working class in 2016, the need for Democrats to reach out to them has been clear. To judge from their convention, however, they remain as lumbering and clueless as ever. Clearly, their program – building infrastructure, investing in early education, expanding access to healthcare – would serve ordinary Americans better than that of the Republicans, yet the Republican party, led by a self-aggrandizing plutocrat, continues to outdo them in appearing the champion of working families – the greatest feat of stagecraft of all.

The day after the Democratic convention ended, MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell asked the Ohio senator Sherrod Brown how he thought the event had played in the rust belt. Brown quickly admonished her for using that term, saying that the region was not rusting but revitalizing. Mitchell accepted the rebuke, but, to her credit, she pressed Brown on why Trump continues to have such a hold on working-class white people in the Midwest. The Democrats, said Brown, must do a better job of exposing Trump’s “phony populism”. After the Republicans’ skillfully choreographed show, that task seems more urgent than ever.

I Michael Moore upozorava da trenutne ankete ne idu baš na ruku Bidenu u tzv swing states.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning

Sve to stoji sto je Moore rekao, kao i clanak iz Guardiana, no shvatanje politike koju je Moore podrzavao od strane mnogih njenih sljedbenika je cesto u koliziji sa politickom porukom koja se ovdje zeli istaci.
Mislim, u stvarnosti bi Samdersova politika pomogla upravo toj radnickoj klasi, medjutim u ovim clancima kada se govori o “ordinary blue-collar Americans” se zaboravlja navesti da misle na bijele blue-collar Americans. Jer oni su ti koji su izostavljeni iz price o rainbow coalition, svih rasa, seksualnih opredjeljenja, itd. A bas takvu pricu upravo najcesce promovisu upravo progresivni politicari. Ne toliko Sanders, ne toliko recimo Katie Porter, ali definitivno The Squad i ostala piculadija. U takvoj prici, iako ona sustinski radi i za njega, se taj bijeli radnik bas i ne snalazi. Nije to njemu bas tako lako objasniti, mislim, kako ce prica o imigrantima, manjinama, muslimanima, trans populaciji, pomoci njemu i malo je tesko nekad spojiti liberalizam i socijaldemokraciju.

Helem, sa svim recenim, slazem se sa Mooreom da je situacija u ovim key swing states ozbiljnija nego sto se misli. I to da je trend trenutno o korist Trumpa. Isto se desavalo prije 4 godine. Jos je prerano, ali treba uloziti svaki gram snage u MI, PA i WI. U AZ i NC se ne pouzdam, a FL uvijek nekako izmakne. Mislim da je jos uvijek Biden u blagoj prednosti, ali se to moze promjeniti jos 3 puta do novembra.

corolla02 wrote: ↑30/08/2020 01:05 Evo tip analizira Trumpov nastup; dalje, tvrdi da ima izvrsan način koje ljude vodi u njegov krug i da mu vjeruju tj. Slijede ga



Licno, Trump samo ponavlja ko papagaj vidi se u videu i kupuje vrijeme te na kraju naikakve činjenice ne iznese... znaci ne vidim nikakav nastup koji bi mene zaintrigirao kod njeg ili da glasam za njegovu ciku, vrisku, maloovazavanje, neznanje, cirkus i sl

Pa mislim da se u nekom momentu svako zapita u cemu je fol, kako neko moze konstantno i sa takvim uvjerenjem ponavljati ocigledne lazi, mozda u tome ima nesto...

A onda skontas da je to najstariji psihopatski fol.

dvorska luda, pa eto ti