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moja tetka wrote: ↑07/07/2020 13:24 jučer udjem u tramvaj naravno maska i rukavice..... u jednom momentu krenem kihati bar pet šest puta, da vam je bilo vidjeti kako narod bježi od mene i čudno me gleda, a ja sam samo teški alergičar.

moja tetka wrote: ↑07/07/2020 13:24 jučer udjem u tramvaj naravno maska i rukavice..... u jednom momentu krenem kihati bar pet šest puta, da vam je bilo vidjeti kako narod bježi od mene i čudno me gleda, a ja sam samo teški alergičar.

TESLA_EDISON wrote: ↑07/07/2020 13:30

moja tetka wrote: ↑07/07/2020 13:24 jučer udjem u tramvaj naravno maska i rukavice..... u jednom momentu krenem kihati bar pet šest puta, da vam je bilo vidjeti kako narod bježi od mene i čudno me gleda, a ja sam samo teški alergičar.

Sada će te sijači smrti prijaviti da si bioterorist i da širiš zarazu. Alergija više ne postoji kao niti jedna druga bolest/alergija. Sve je to korona. #Ostanikuci

https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/ ... u-15006859

U Srbiji od korone umrlo najviše ljudi u jednom danu do sada: ‘Beograd bi mogao u karantenu‘

U posljednja 24 sata u Srbiji je od koronavirusa preminulo čak 13 osoba, što je najviše dosad u jednom danu u toj zemlji.

Novozaraženih osoba je 299, a testirano je 8.287 ljudi, piše Blic. Na respiratorima se pak trenutno nalazi 110 pacijenata.

Prema riječima epidemiologa Predraga Kona, najteže je stanje u Beogradu za koji nije isključeno uvođenje neke vrste karantene ako se situacija ubrzo ne normalizira.

Kon je za televiziju Prva rekao da je povećan broj ljudi koji dolaze na testiranje u Covid ambulante u Beogradu.

- U Beogradu se u prosjeku javlja 3.325 ljudi dnevno u Covid ambulante, i to tako već najmanje pet dana. Pritom se studenti koji čekaju rezultate testiranja na koronavirus ne zadržavaju na bolničkom liječenju - rekao je Kon.

Prema njegovim riječima, od Covida-19 oboljelo je i više od 300 studenata, a slučajevi zaraze koronavirusom zabilježeni su i u najmanje 14 vrtića.

- Institucije moraju u potpunosti preuzeti svoj posao. Epidemiolozi moraju formirati svoje stavove i postoji nekoherentnost izjava koje se više ne mogu tolerirati. Epidemiološka situacija u Beogradu se pogoršava, a neko poboljšanje očekujemo tek krajem tjedna.

- Pred nama je velika borba. Priča da će sve ovo proći, što ja želim, a da li nove mjere funkcioniraju znat ćemo tek idućeg tjedna. Dolazak jeseni je nešto što je vrlo blizu i za to se moramo pripremiti - kazao je Kon i upozorio da je u slučaju kolapsa zdravstvenog sustava jedino rješenje - karantena.

- Zamjena za zaključavanje je nošenje maski. Naime, virus se prenosi kapljično - istaknuo je.

ANamelessGhoul wrote: ↑07/07/2020 15:50 E čuj prijavili mu post. Ima pravo čovjek da piše

mO k3 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 15:43

TESLA_EDISON wrote: ↑07/07/2020 13:30

Sada će te sijači smrti prijaviti da si bioterorist i da širiš zarazu. Alergija više ne postoji kao niti jedna druga bolest/alergija. Sve je to korona. #Ostanikuci

Prijavio sam ti post , dosta je vise tvoga bullshita

Matijevic_Vlado wrote: ↑07/07/2020 16:07
Idi u shutdown, ili ono bi lockdown , bolje ti je nego sto glumis forumsku tetku.
Cuj on prijavio covjeku post

Matijevic_Vlado wrote: ↑07/07/2020 16:07

mO k3 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 15:43

TESLA_EDISON wrote: ↑07/07/2020 13:30

Sada će te sijači smrti prijaviti da si bioterorist i da širiš zarazu. Alergija više ne postoji kao niti jedna druga bolest/alergija. Sve je to korona. #Ostanikuci

Prijavio sam ti post , dosta je vise tvoga bullshita

Idi u shutdown, ili ono bi lockdown , bolje ti je nego sto glumis forumsku tetku.
Cuj on prijavio covjeku post

mO k3 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 16:11

Matijevic_Vlado wrote: ↑07/07/2020 16:07
Idi u shutdown, ili ono bi lockdown , bolje ti je nego sto glumis forumsku tetku.
Cuj on prijavio covjeku post

Ko ispade forumska tetka ovdje??

Moj vlado sta se desava sa tobom , prije si bio tako smotan i simpatican , sada si posebno naporan

2. The fairy tale of no immunity
From the World Health Organisation (WHO) to every Facebook-virologist, everyone claimed this virus was particularly dangerous, because there was no immunity against it, because it was a novel virus. Even Anthony Fauci, the most important advisor to the Trump administration noted at the beginning at every public appearance that the danger of the virus lay in the fact that there was no immunity against it. Tony and I often sat next to each other at immunology seminars at the National Institute of Health in Bethesda in the US, because we worked in related fields back then. So for a while I was pretty uncritical of his statements, since he was a respectable colleague of mine. The penny dropped only when I realised that the first commercially available antibody test [for Sars-CoV-2] was put together from an old antibody test that was meant to detect Sars-1. This kind of test evaluates if there are antibodies in someone’s blood and if they came about through an early fight against the virus. [Scientists] even extracted antibodies from a Lama that would detect Sars-1, Sars-CoV-2, and even the Mers virus. It also became known that Sars-CoV-2 had a less significant impact in areas in China where Sars-1 had previously raged. This is clear evidence urgently suggesting that our immune system considers Sars-1 and Sars-Cov-2 at least partially identical and that one virus could probably protect us from the other.
That’s when I realised that the entire world simply claimed that there was no immunity, but in reality, nobody had a test ready to prove such a statement. That wasn’t science, but pure speculation based on a gut feeling that was then parroted by everyone.

Those young and healthy people who currently walk around with a mask on their faces would be better off wearing a helmet instead, because the risk of something falling on their head is greater than that of getting a serious case of Covid-19.

laik1981 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:19 Jel i ovaj neki sarlatan koji je odlijepio od realnosti? Je li anty vaxxer ili nesto slicno da se ne patim provjeravajuci ga, sve nesto na svabskom..

Those young and healthy people who currently walk around with a mask on their faces would be better off wearing a helmet instead, because the risk of something falling on their head is greater than that of getting a serious case of Covid-19.

Kontam da mladi ne nose maske radi sebe nego radi starih, al ne kontam sto ovaj to ne konta sa tolikim znanjem i iskustvom?

So if we do a PCR corona test on an immune person, it is not a virus that is detected, but a small shattered part of the viral genome. The test comes back positive for as long as there are klix shattered parts of the virus left. Correct: Even if the infectious viri are long dead, a corona test can come back positive, because the PCR method multiplies even a klix fraction of the viral genetic material enough [to be detected]…The crux was that the virus debris registered with the overly sensitive test and therefore came back as “positive”. It is likely that a large number of the daily reported infection numbers are purely due to viral debris.

laik1981 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:34 Kaze i ovo za testove

So if we do a PCR corona test on an immune person, it is not a virus that is detected, but a small shattered part of the viral genome. The test comes back positive for as long as there are klix shattered parts of the virus left. Correct: Even if the infectious viri are long dead, a corona test can come back positive, because the PCR method multiplies even a klix fraction of the viral genetic material enough [to be detected]…The crux was that the virus debris registered with the overly sensitive test and therefore came back as “positive”. It is likely that a large number of the daily reported infection numbers are purely due to viral debris.

Diwan wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:41

kakavdanakneiskustvu wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:44 https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/pred ... /200707141

Mogy87 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:49

Diwan wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:41

Joj Diwan ukljuci se malo ako vec diskutujes. Autor clanka govori o PCR testovima. Tekst koji si ti postavio govori o seroloskim.
Znam da tebe ne interesuje, ali ako nekog zanima evo vise informacija o oba testa pisano dosta razumljivim jezikom
https://ba.voanews.com/a/pcr-i-serolosk ... 14495.html

Mogy87 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:36

laik1981 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:34 Kaze i ovo za testove

So if we do a PCR corona test on an immune person, it is not a virus that is detected, but a small shattered part of the viral genome. The test comes back positive for as long as there are klix shattered parts of the virus left. Correct: Even if the infectious viri are long dead, a corona test can come back positive, because the PCR method multiplies even a klix fraction of the viral genetic material enough [to be detected]…The crux was that the virus debris registered with the overly sensitive test and therefore came back as “positive”. It is likely that a large number of the daily reported infection numbers are purely due to viral debris.

Splinter je tebi licno objasnjavao za testove.

splinter wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:52

Mogy87 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:36

laik1981 wrote: ↑07/07/2020 17:34 Kaze i ovo za testove

Splinter je tebi licno objasnjavao za testove.

Jesam pisao sam i nemogu više. Prije svega podudarnost između sars CoV i sars CoV 2 je na nivou nukleotida oko 79 % a na nivou S proteina oko 72%. Npr RaTG13 ima podudarnost sa SarsCoV 2 oko 96% i to onaj sojj virusa koji se nalazi na slijepim miševima dok soj koji je nađen na ljuskavcima ima nešto manju podudarnost. Najveća sličnost između ova dva virusa je zapravo u mjestu vezivanja za ćelije epitela kod ljudi a to je ACE2 receptor. Danas već postoje toliko sofisticirani testovi da ciljano traže pojedine sekvence virusa kao target.