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saint_mirad wrote: ↑20/06/2022 23:52

dale cooper wrote: ↑20/06/2022 23:40 Postmodernisti ne idu baš tako daleko...treba biti pošten.

postmodernisti isto tvrde. ako postoji moja istina i tvoja istina i one su u istoj subjektivnoj ravni, onda ne postoji the istina.

dale cooper wrote: ↑20/06/2022 23:57

saint_mirad wrote: ↑20/06/2022 23:52

postmodernisti isto tvrde. ako postoji moja istina i tvoja istina i one su u istoj subjektivnoj ravni, onda ne postoji the istina.

To je stvar tvoje interpretacije.

saint_mirad wrote: ↑20/06/2022 23:59

dale cooper wrote: ↑20/06/2022 23:57

To je stvar tvoje interpretacije.

thanks for proving my point. doduse, svestan sam da si namerno, lepo se namestilo.

Niemand wrote: ↑21/06/2022 00:15 Dobro je dok se jos mozemo smijati tome svemu, ali bojim se da cemo prije ili kasnije plakati.

Natural law (Latin: ius naturale, lex naturalis) is a system of law based on a close observation of human nature, and based on values intrinsic to human nature that can be deduced and applied independently of positive law (the express enacted laws of a state or society). According to natural law theory, all people have inherent rights, conferred not by act of legislation but by "God, nature, or reason."
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In the early decades of the 21st century, the concept of natural law is closely related to the concept of natural rights. Indeed, many philosophers, jurists and scholars use natural law synonymously with natural rights (Latin: ius naturale), or natural justice, though others distinguish between natural law and natural right.

Because of the intersection between natural law and natural rights, natural law has been claimed or attributed as a key component in the Act of Abjuration (1581) of the Netherlands, the Declaration of Independence (1776) of the United States, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789) of France, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) of the United Nations, as well as the European Convention on Human Rights (1953) of the Council of Europe.

Many postmodernists hold one or more of the following views: (1) there is no objective reality; (2) there is no scientific or historical truth (objective truth); (3) science and technology (and even reason and logic) are not vehicles of human progress but suspect instruments of established power; (4) reason and logic are not universally valid; (5) there is no such thing as human nature (human behavior and psychology are socially determined or constructed); (6) language does not refer to a reality outside itself; (7) there is no certain knowledge; and (8) no general theory of the natural or social world can be valid or true (all are illegitimate “metanarratives”).

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Postmodernists deny that there are aspects of reality that are objective; that there are statements about reality that are objectively true or false; that it is possible to have knowledge of such statements (objective knowledge); that it is possible for human beings to know some things with certainty; and that there are objective, or absolute, moral values. Reality, knowledge, and value are constructed by discourses; hence they can vary with them.

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/postmo ... #ref282558

hadzinicasa wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:27

konoplja wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:11

Bravo!
Neka si razbio ovo prepucavanje.
Kao sto je hadzinicasa rekla "pitac", ili je "pitalac" ?

Reci ce nam Bloo sta je tacno.

Oj, smanji nadmenost, prsnuces

Evo da i ti nesto naucis:

jednom tako jednoga vrli pitac neki:
A kto je ta sta je ta da prostis
Gdje li je ta
Odakle je
Kuda je ta
Zena
Rekti
A zapitani odgovor njemu hitan tad dade:
Zena da prostis jedna zemlja imade
I posna i bosa da prostis
I hladna i gladna
I k tomu jos
Da prostis
Prkosna
Od
Sna

Niemand wrote: ↑21/06/2022 01:35

Many postmodernists hold one or more of the following views: (1) there is no objective reality; (2) there is no scientific or historical truth (objective truth); (3) science and technology (and even reason and logic) are not vehicles of human progress but suspect instruments of established power; (4) reason and logic are not universally valid; (5) there is no such thing as human nature (human behavior and psychology are socially determined or constructed); (6) language does not refer to a reality outside itself; (7) there is no certain knowledge; and (8) no general theory of the natural or social world can be valid or true (all are illegitimate “metanarratives”).

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Postmodernists deny that there are aspects of reality that are objective; that there are statements about reality that are objectively true or false; that it is possible to have knowledge of such statements (objective knowledge); that it is possible for human beings to know some things with certainty; and that there are objective, or absolute, moral values. Reality, knowledge, and value are constructed by discourses; hence they can vary with them.

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/postmo ... #ref282558

I dje lawgiver po ovoj ekipi tim ljudskim pravima?

Nema ga pa nema ni njih? Ali ljudi to ne shvataju. Shvatice kasno.

Bloo wrote: ↑20/06/2022 15:08 Inače je to tricky.
Spolom jesam žena. Sise check, jajnici check, vajayjay check, menstruacija check (damn it), hormoni check, fizički slabija check...
Rodom? Zavisi kako neko definiše ženu. Osjećajna? Check? Drama queen? Check. empatična? Check. Ženstvena? Erm..skip...Dobro kuha? Depending, Dobra sa djecom? Depending, Voli slušati Jelenu Rozgu? Hard pass....i tako dalje i tako bliže.

edit: ne znam razvijati jufke - to me vjerovatno diskvalificira

Seawolf wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:58

John Cleese wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:55

Mamica su strukle pekli, meni nisu nikaj rekli

Jesu l' to i mamice non-binar?

Niemand wrote: ↑21/06/2022 01:35

Many postmodernists hold one or more of the following views: (1) there is no objective reality; (2) there is no scientific or historical truth (objective truth); (3) science and technology (and even reason and logic) are not vehicles of human progress but suspect instruments of established power; (4) reason and logic are not universally valid; (5) there is no such thing as human nature (human behavior and psychology are socially determined or constructed); (6) language does not refer to a reality outside itself; (7) there is no certain knowledge; and (8) no general theory of the natural or social world can be valid or true (all are illegitimate “metanarratives”).

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Postmodernists deny that there are aspects of reality that are objective; that there are statements about reality that are objectively true or false; that it is possible to have knowledge of such statements (objective knowledge); that it is possible for human beings to know some things with certainty; and that there are objective, or absolute, moral values. Reality, knowledge, and value are constructed by discourses; hence they can vary with them.

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/postmo ... #ref282558

I dje lawgiver po ovoj ekipi tim ljudskim pravima?

Nema ga pa nema ni njih? Ali ljudi to ne shvataju. Shvatice kasno.

MarlboroGold wrote: ↑21/06/2022 09:51 Pa et mogu citirati neke religijske izvore po kojima i nismo baš daleko

Još samo da prepoznamo Džedala ili antihrista

Hakiz wrote: ↑21/06/2022 11:05

MarlboroGold wrote: ↑21/06/2022 09:51 Pa et mogu citirati neke religijske izvore po kojima i nismo baš daleko

Još samo da prepoznamo Džedala ili antihrista

Ta propast svijeta, ako dolazi recimo 31. 12. u ponoć, dolazi li tada po australijskom, centralnoevropskom, griničovskom, istočnoobalskom ili zapadnoobalskom vremenu?

John Cleese wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:40

konoplja wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:04

Ponasas se kao pravi John Cleese.

John Cleese signs up for Roman Polanski film

Comic to work with child rapist

John Cleese has signed up to work with paedophile Roman Polanski on his new film.

https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2022/04/ ... anski-film

Jak argument, nema govora

I nije upitno moje ponasanje nego tvoje rezonovanje

Djeca ne mogu dati valjan pristanak na seksualnu interakciju.
Djeca nikome nisu u tom smislu komplementarna.

Dakle, prije nego komentiras post u kojem je spomenuta seksualna komplementarnost, trebalo bi ti biti jasno da se to ne moze odnositi na pedofile.

Osim toga, komentirao si zapravo esenciju onih gnjavatorskih pitanja kojima su bez kraja i konca maltretirali covjeka odvec strpljivog i dobrocudnog da bi ih, s punim pravom, jednostavno ignorirao

John Cleese wrote: ↑21/06/2022 09:29

Bice skoro propast sveta?

piupiu wrote: ↑21/06/2022 02:30

Samo što oni u to 'vjeruju' s analitičkog i kritičkog stanovišta, kao odgovor na dogmatsko mišljenje i korištenje dogme u svrhu ostvarivanja moći, a ne kao u teološke principe, istine i vrline. Postmodernizam raskirnkava ideologije i strukture moći koji ih instrumentaliziraju. On to ne čini kao politička ideologija, već kao nauka o idejama.

konoplja wrote: ↑21/06/2022 12:04

John Cleese wrote: ↑20/06/2022 22:40

Jak argument, nema govora

I nije upitno moje ponasanje nego tvoje rezonovanje

Djeca ne mogu dati valjan pristanak na seksualnu interakciju.
Djeca nikome nisu u tom smislu komplementarna.

Dakle, prije nego komentiras post u kojem je spomenuta seksualna komplementarnost, trebalo bi ti biti jasno da se to ne moze odnositi na pedofile.

Osim toga, komentirao si zapravo esenciju onih gnjavatorskih pitanja kojima su bez kraja i konca maltretirali covjeka odvec strpljivog i dobrocudnog da bi ih, s punim pravom, jednostavno ignorirao

Ae

Sada bi o rezonovanju, a vrhunac tvog doprinosa posljednih dana su hinjski uleti one-linerima sa obaveznim straight face emojiem na kraju.
Aj, za pohvalu je to i napredak u svakom slucaju.

Pravi si Dzon...
i definitivno ontoloski zao

Niemand wrote: ↑21/06/2022 12:10

John Cleese wrote: ↑21/06/2022 09:29

Bice skoro propast sveta?

Vjerujem ja da ce jednog dana i biti, sto ti kazes "propast svijeta", to stoji, ali moramol mi zaista do tad prizivati fasizam? Sta ako neko dekonstruise ljudska prava za koja smo tvrdili da se ne mogu "dirati"? Da se nadamo onda propasti svijeti da nas spasi fasizma ili?

John Cleese wrote: ↑21/06/2022 12:40

Niemand wrote: ↑21/06/2022 12:10

Vjerujem ja da ce jednog dana i biti, sto ti kazes "propast svijeta", to stoji, ali moramol mi zaista do tad prizivati fasizam? Sta ako neko dekonstruise ljudska prava za koja smo tvrdili da se ne mogu "dirati"? Da se nadamo onda propasti svijeti da nas spasi fasizma ili?

Brate sestro, otkud sad fasizam? Zar moze fasizam funkcionirati bez "istine" i "vrijednosti"?

Historian Timothy Snyder wrote of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol:

Post-truth is pre-fascism... When we give up on truth, we concede power to those with the wealth and charisma to create spectacle in its place. Without agreement about some basic facts, citizens cannot form the civil society that would allow them to defend themselves. If we lose the institutions that produce facts that are pertinent to us, then we tend to wallow in attractive abstractions and fictions... Post-truth wears away the rule of law and invites a regime of myth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-tr ... phenomenon.