--------Sezam wrote:Na zalost ovo jeste Islam i okretanje glave od problema nikome nece pomoci.
Sezam wrote:Na onoj zakljucanoj temi o taocima u Sidneju se najvise raspravljalo o nazistima, a ovdje se vidim trude da se prica okrene na Srbe.
Sve cete uraditi, samo da se ne bi suocili sa cinjenicom da u 21 vijeku dolazi do ogromnog razdora u Islamu, gdje mentalno poremeceni poludivlji kozojebi masu islamskim zastavama, dok vecina muslimana to precutno odobrava ili se pravi dfa ih se ne tice, a oni muslimani sto ne odobravaju povratak kamenog doba u 21 vijeku kazu: To nije Islam. Na zalost, to JESTE Islam. Svaki dan nas neki "brat" podsjeti na to.
Slazem se.Sezam wrote:Na zalost ovo jeste Islam i okretanje glave od problema nikome nece pomoci.
Arape je srozala lijenost i inertnost. Nevjerovatno da je jedan tako veliki narod uspavan i sludjen. Zapad ih handir na razne nacine, ali to opet nije opravdanje. Prepustili su se i nista ne rade. Nevjerovatno.m_l wrote:@Kiki, ti znas, jer pratis desavanja na BI, da su stvari tamo mnogo kompleksnije. Mislila sam na nepravdu koja je, kako kazu, njima ucinjena:Kikibombona wrote:
O kakvoj nepravdi je rijec?
Nepravda je sto ovi bolesnici i vjerski fanatici dijele svijet sa normalnim i postenim ljudima.
IDEOLOGIJA ZLA
Od ovih bolesnika najvecu stetu imaju muslimani koji zive sa njima.Ubijanje zena, djece i nemocnih nema opravdanja. "...ako neko ubije nekoga koji nije ubio nikoga, ili onoga koji na Zemlji nered ne čini - kao da je sve ljude poubijao."U izjavi koju su talibani poslali Reutersu, stoji kako su targetirali školu jer vojska napada njihove obitelji. 'Želimo da osjete našu bol', napisali su talibani."
I upravu si, ovi fanatici najvecu stetu nanose upravo muslimanima, ali ne samo koji zive s njima, nego sirom svijeta.
Boze, daj da razum pobijedi!
parangal_ wrote:mozemo poceti sa citatima iz kurana, pa objasni da ovo nisu pozivi na nasilje:madtv wrote:daleko je ovo od islama...ali kako i kome to objasnitihladan.preminger wrote:Kazu za islam da vjera mira i ljubavi među ljudima. Malo sutra.
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."
znaci ovo je samo primjer moze se naci tona citata, ali da neko ne kaze da pljujem po islamu evo malo zla iz biblije:
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26
naravno, vjera je namazana, pogana, zla, oportunisticka stvar i gadovi su između poziva na ubijanje ubacili i pokoju vrlu mudrost cisto da se pokriju, ali u sustini najveci problem covjecanstva je religija koja ne zasluzuje nikakvo postovanje. zadatak svakog civilizovanog covjeka je da se bori protiv religije a ne da je postuje ili prati.
broj dva wrote:--------Sezam wrote:Na zalost ovo jeste Islam i okretanje glave od problema nikome nece pomoci.
To je kao da kazes da je krscanstvo paljenje vjestica, inkvizicija, krstaski pohodi, pokolji jevreja i pedofilija. Mislim ima krscanstvo i ljepsu stranu zar ne ? Isto vrjedi i za Islam, ne mozes uzeti sve sto neki maloumnici rade u ime te regligije i predstaviti to kao esenciju religije.
Islam ne tapka u mjestu, neki ljudi, pa i grupe, manje-vece, tapkaju u mjestu. Ja svoj moral, zivotni stil opcenito, za koji inspiraciju dobijam upravo iz islama, ne bih mijenjala za milione onih koje nazivate prozapadno - savremeno naprednim. BrrrrrSezam wrote:Islam ne samo da tapka u SREDNJEM VIJEKU, vec se vrtoglavo vraca u kameno doba.
nadji ajet prije ovoga (190), pa vidi o cemu se radi...parangal_ wrote:parangal_ wrote:mozemo poceti sa citatima iz kurana, pa objasni da ovo nisu pozivi na nasilje:madtv wrote: daleko je ovo od islama...ali kako i kome to objasniti
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Radikalnih, na koje mislis, ovdje nema mnogo. Na ovom forumu dominiraju radikalni ateisti.Chisum wrote: Sad ce ovdasnja braca, koje se u zadnje vrijeme nakotilo na forumu, da ih peru na ruke.
Neka zivi ko kako zeli.m_l wrote:Islam ne tapka u mjestu, neki ljudi, pa i grupe, manje-vece, tapkaju u mjestu. Ja svoj moral, zivotni stil opcenito, za koji inspiraciju dobijam upravo iz islama, ne bih mijenjala za milione onih koje nazivate prozapadno - savremeno naprednim. BrrrrrSezam wrote:Islam ne samo da tapka u SREDNJEM VIJEKU, vec se vrtoglavo vraca u kameno doba.
Hajd nam objasni da ne gubimo vrijememadtv wrote:nadji ajet prije ovoga (190), pa vidi o cemu se radi...parangal_ wrote:parangal_ wrote: mozemo poceti sa citatima iz kurana, pa objasni da ovo nisu pozivi na nasilje:
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
"Radikalni ateisti", ma sta to da ti znaci, ne raznose se po skolama kao ovi babuni, i ne ubijaju Bosnjake, pokusavajuci izgledati kao pustinjska im zaostala "braca", te pa mi se za njih zivo jebe.m_l wrote:Radikalnih, na koje mislis, ovdje nema mnogo. Na ovom forumu dominiraju radikalni ateisti.Chisum wrote: Sad ce ovdasnja braca, koje se u zadnje vrijeme nakotilo na forumu, da ih peru na ruke.
Upravo ovako(kao @parangal) rade i mnogi koji se pozivaju na islam, a sebe nazivaju muslimanima: procitaju nesto malo, izvade iz konteksta, jer to im odgovara u datom trenutku, utripuju sebi da su pokupili svu pamet svijeta i bace se na posao...Jad i bijeda.madtv wrote:nadji ajet prije ovoga (190), pa vidi o cemu se radi...parangal_ wrote:parangal_ wrote:
mozemo poceti sa citatima iz kurana, pa objasni da ovo nisu pozivi na nasilje:
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
drunken tiger wrote:Samo čekam post kojim će se okriviti Amerika za sve.
isto,cekam da neko izleti da kaze da su sve to placenici amerike i cionista 
apologeta ce uvijek naci izgovor da religija "ne misli to tako" nego nesto drugo. dobro rece steven weinberg dobitnik nobelove nagrade za fiziku:m_l wrote:madtv wrote:parangal_ wrote: Upravo ovako(kao @parangal) rade i mnogi koji se pozivaju na islam, a sebe nazivaju muslimanima: procitaju nesto malo, izvade iz konteksta, jer to im odgovara u datom trenutku, utripuju sebi da su pokupili svu pamet svijeta i bace se na posao...Jad i bijeda.