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#201 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 11/11/2009 09:12
by A1fa
kmosst wrote:Zbog duzine teksta dajem prevod samo zadnje recenice:

"...1. August 2014: Fünf Jahre hätte die EU Zeit, um voranzutreiben, was geografisch, geschichtlich und politisch unabwendbar ist: die Entbalkanisierung des Balkans und seine endgültige Rückkehr nach Europa..."

1. august 2014: Pet godina, EU bi imala vremena, da napravi ono što je zemljopisno, povijesno i politički neizbježno: debalkaniziranju Balkana i njegov konačni povratak u Europu.
Optimisticno, ali ovaj dio je bitniji, jer jasno pokazuje kako EU ustvari gleda na nas i sta zeli da bi nas prihvatili...

Welche Schlussfolgerungen sollte die EU ziehen, um aus einer verfahrenen Situation herauszukommen, in der »balkanisch« noch immer gleichzusetzen ist mit »vulkanisch«? Und was müssen die Länder des Westbalkans selber tun, um ihrem Ziel näherzukommen, der Aufnahme in die EU?
Zunächst einmal haben die Nachfolgestaaten des alten Jugoslawien eine Bringschuld. Sie müssen aufhören, nur nach Brüssel zu blicken, aber die unmittelbaren Nachbarn zu ignorieren. Die Region muss lernen, sich wieder als Region zu begreifen. Integration darf nicht nur heißen: Integration in Europa; zuvörderst muss sie Annäherung, Zusammenarbeit, Ausgleich und letztlich Aussöhnung in der Nachbarschaft bedeuten.


Kakve zkljucke treba EU da izvuce kako bi izasla iz jedne zapetljane situacije, u kojoj se termin ,,balkansko'' jos uvijek izjednacava sa terminom ,,vulkansko''?? I sta zemlje zapadnog balkana moraju same da urade da bi dostigle svoj cilj, prijem u EU? Kao prvo, zemlje nasljednice bivse jugoslavije imaju dug kojeg se trebaju rijesiti. Regija mora nauciti da samu sebe pocne shvatati kao regiju. Integracija ne smije samo da znaci: integracija u Evropu; prije toga ona mora znaciti priblizavanje, suradnju, izjednacavanje i na kraju izmirenje u susjedstvu.

Dakle, od nas ocekuju ono sto su stogodisnji neprijatelji u evropi ucinili prije nego su se sreli u EU, izmirenje i suradnju. To ce ici najteze, u BIH i na Kosovu gotovo nemoguce, barem iz danasnje perspektive. :roll:

#202 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 11/11/2009 09:53
by kmosst
A1fa hvala na pomoci...

zavrsni dio:

Prvog augusta 2014, balkanske zemlje bi mogle ući u EU.
Ali u isto vrijeme EU snosi veliku krivicu. 14 godina je prošlo od potpisivanja Daytonskog sporazuma (deset godina od rata na Kosovu),a Evropa je Balkan sve više i vise gubila iz vida. U isto vrijeme Evropa je ulozila milijarde za svoje Balkanske protektorate, za vojne trupe, za visoke predstavnike, kako bi smirila nemire. Ali, tokom ovoga vremena Balkan se izgubio iz njenog vidokruga. Regionom je preovladalo tehnokratsko upravljanje. Političke, strateške vizije više nisu prepoznatljive.
To se mora promijeniti jer inace: Balkan ce postati crna rupa u srcu EU – opasnija nego, recimo, Afganistan. Zbog toga je potreban jedan novi politički početak, jedan pregovarački okvir za cijelu regiju, jedan cvrsti plan i jedan jasan cilj.
U novije vrijeme tu i tamo se provlaci ideja da bi do 1 augusta 2014 sve balkanske zemlje trebale postati članice Europske unije. Historijski datum: Točno sto godina od pocetka prvog svjetskog rata. Datum kada će napokon biti postavljena pacifikacije jugoistočne Europe i njene integracije u Bruxellesku zajednicu, to bi bilo jedno simbolično finale.
1. august 2014: jos pet godina, EU bi za to vrijeme morala uciniti ono što je zemljopisno, povijesno i politički neizbježno: debalkanizaciju Balkana i njegov konačni povratak u Evropu.

#203 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 11/11/2009 09:56
by kmosst
posebno mi se "dopada" prevod ovog "zapani Balkan" na engleski = western Balkan...

#204 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 16/11/2009 17:22
by Shoba
Меркел: Србија испунила услове за ССП
Тадић и Меркелова (Фото АФП)

БЕРЛИН – Немачка сматра да је Србија испунила услове за ступање на снагу прелазног трговинског споразума са Европском унијом, изјавила је немачка канцеларка Ангела Меркел после разговора са председником Србије Борисом Тадићем.

Меркелова је, на заједничкој конференцији за штампу са Тадићем, најавила да ће Немачка „водити разговоре са европским партнерима који мисле да се још нису стекли услови за одмрзавање прелазног споразума и који за сада не желе да подрже његово ступање на снагу.

„Остаћемо у конктакту са европским партнерима који за сада не желе да подрже одмржавање прелазног споразума. По нашем мишљењу, тај споразум би могао да ступи на снагу”, рекла је немачка канцеларка.

Она је оценила да би Србија захтев за кандидатуру за чланство у ЕУ требало да поднесе по ступању на снагу тог споразума.

Меркелова је као добру и позитивну вест навела либерализацију визног режима са Србијом.

Она је изразила, како је рекла, своје поштовање за политику коју председник Србије води, како на унутрашњем тако и на спољашњем плану и српском народу изразила саучешће поводом смрти патријарха Павла.

Председник Тадић је рекао да је са Меркеловом говорио о политичким и другим темама и да је Косово једина тачка где између Београда и Берлина постоје разлике у мишљењима, будући да Србија, како је истакао, „не признаје, нити ће признати Косово”.

Танјуг

#205 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 17/11/2009 23:22
by dallton
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=346556
Be Careful With Bosnia
Published: 11/16/2009

BY ISMAIL KUCUKKAYA
AKSAM- A positive development just escaped public notice for the second time. Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu held a triple summit with his Bosnia-Herzegovinian and Serbian counterparts in Istanbul yesterday, on the heels of meeting them on October 10. I wrote back then that this was just a few hours before Davutoglu flew to Zurich for the signing ceremony of the historical protocol with Armenia.

These triple foreign ministers' summits follow secret Balkan negotiations which have been closely followed by the president, prime minister, foreign minister and diplomats. Rumelia and Balkans, former Ottoman territories, still cause an ache in Turkish hearts.

In her July 18 column 'European Union racism,' Nihal Kemaloglu decried an inexplicable double standard. She wrote that the European Union had lifted visa requirements for Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia, but not for Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania or Kosovo. Under this embarrassing decision, Serbians and Croatians living in Bosnia-Herzegovina will be able to freely travel to Europe with their Serbian and Croatian passports, but Muslim Bosniaks from the same country will have to get visas. Even putting aside Turkey's decades-long EU quest, this unreasonable policy in the heart of Europe is incomprehensible.

As the trial of Serbian butcher Radovan Karadzic gets underway, humanity is again remembering the biggest massacre of the late 20th century and crying for the innocents who were lost. But the danger isn't over yet. The hidden tension in the Balkans is now very high. Bosnia-Herzegovina is like a ticking time bomb which could go off anytime. Ankara knows the risk. There are fears the country could split up, and ethnic conflicts in the background of this intense diplomacy have been simmering for many months. Ankara is trying to prevent these terrifying developments, which is why Davutoglu often meets with his Bosniak and Serbian counterparts.

President Abdullah Gul's recent visit to Serbia also aimed at heading off war. I heard Davutoglu saying that we've been very concerned over the last month. The Bosnians don't trust Europe and they're right, because it's discriminating against them. The Dayton Accords are about to expire, and new mechanisms are needed for a solution. The political crisis in the country is getting deeper. The UN peacekeepers' term is also ending, and strong efforts against new conflicts are needed. When I asked Davutoglu about developments in Bosnia-Herzegovina, he said that he was working hard. We also spoke of certain details which I can't disclose here, but I can tell you that Turkey is following this issue very closely.

#206 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 18/11/2009 08:50
by simonese

#207 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 09:39
by Bosnolog
Interesantan clanak za analizu stanaj u BiH kao i jedan od mogucih razvoja dogadaja u skorijoj buducnosti,iako smo do sada o ovom scenariu mnogo pisali ali vrijedi procitati i analizirati ulogu MZ u BiH kao posljedice tolerisanja fasisoidnog Dodika u njegovom anti drzavnom ponasanju i opstrukcijama spram njegovih secesionistickih najava i prijetnji a o cemu pise jedan od onih koji su bili angazovani u BiH.
Postavlja se pitanje da li nas to Mz zeli naviknuti da se pomirimo sa sudbinom podjele i nestanak BiH,zakljucimo sami sta je poruka ovog teksta i sto i kako se treba postaviti u slucaju realizacije nekih dijelova istog.

Izvor; http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/comment/23797/



Republika Srpska: After Independence
| 19 November 2009 | By Matthew Parish

Bosnia’s gradual disintegration would appear inevitable. The only question is how the international community will, and should, react to this process.
A new state – “Republika Srpska” - is shortly to be born in South Eastern Europe, the eighth to emerge from the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. The delivery of this troubling new child will be neither easy nor straightforward.

People may die, and diplomatic isolation may follow. The choices the international community makes in the aftermath of these events will be critically important to the welfare of all the people of the region. For Western policymakers it will be a matter of choosing the lesser evil.

Ever since the 1995 peace agreement at Dayton divided the country into two highly autonomous “entities”, it was manifest, even from its name, that the Republika Srpska had pretensions towards statehood. But after the atrocities committed by Serb forces in the Bosnian war, the West viewed the creation of Republika Srpska as a necessary evil at best, a “genocidal creation” in the words of the current Bosniak President, Haris Silajdzic, to be eventually dismantled. This goal, once achieved, would compensate the Bosniaks for the collective guilt the international community felt for having failed to intervene earlier during the conflict.

To pursue this objective, the High Representative was invested with broad and unchecked legal authorities to dismiss elected officials, impose legislation, and freeze parties’ bank accounts. Although the constitution agreed at Dayton limited central government authorities to a paltry catalogue, by 2006 the number of functions performed by the state were significant, including prosecution of war crimes and financial crime, foreign affairs, indirect taxation, central banking, and EU negotiations. These structures were created by threatening Bosnian Serb politicians, sullied by associations with wartime crimes, with a one-way ticket to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia, ICTY, if they refused to cooperate. The new central institutions were funded from outside Bosnia’s bankrupt domestic economy through foreign aid.

But then two things changed. Most fundamentally, everyone who could be deported to The Hague had been, and the wartime Bosnian Serb political party, the Serb Democratic Party, SDS, had been emasculated through the measures taken by successive High Representatives.

This led to the rise of Milorad Dodik, a different brand of Bosnian Serb politician, untainted by participation in the war. His new party, the Alliance of Independent Social Democrats, SNSD, could not be bullied by High Representatives’ threats, as his officials had no wartime record to hold against them.

Second, international interest in Bosnia faded, and the high levels of development funds needed to keep state institutions operating dried up. The Bosnian tax system, chronically inefficient and corrupt, was increasingly relied upon to fund the central state. These two factors, combined with a withdrawal of foreign peacekeeping troops, coalesced just as Milorad Dodik became Prime Minister of Republika Srpska in January 2006.

Dodik shares many of the qualities of Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Tough, shrewd, uninterested in democracy, and determined to elevate his nation’s status after a decade of weakness, he is a formidable opponent for the weak and ineffective international figures remaining in Bosnia. Uncontaminated by the Republika Srpska’s wartime past, and buoyed by international criticism of the heavy-handed tactics previously employed by Bosnia’s international governors, he is invulnerable to the High representatives’ traditional methods.

He has taken to embarrassing the High Representative by frustrating his every endeavour. The High Representative can do little to constrain him. He has no money to withhold – Republika Srpska now receives investment from Eastern Europe and Russia – and no troops to send; international peacekeepers remain in only negligible numbers. When the High Representative’s office tried to pin corruption charges on Dodik, he shut down the State Court. He then shut down the state electricity company. When the international community tried to impose a centralised police management on the country, Dodik frustrated it. When the High Representative tried to change voting in the State Council of Ministers, Dodik had the State Prime Minister, a Serb, resign, throwing the central government into paralysis.

In theory, the High Representative can dismiss Dodik. But the High Representative’s notional authority is now bereft of might because there is no way of enforcing it. There are no foreign troops to evict Dodik from office.

The State Police are small in number and ethnically divided and no match for Dodik’s RS Police. Bosnia has no army of substance. The RS controls its own tax revenues and can financially withdraw from the rest of the country without significant sanction.

Dodik’s agenda in the short term is to detach the Republika Srpska from dependence upon the central state institutions. This will be straightforward to achieve, because central government and indeed the Dayton Constitution incorporate “consociationalist” principles whereby decisions can only be taken by consensus of all three of the country’s ethnic groups. Provided he can continue to control most Serb officials, Dodik can block every decision of substance. The writ of the State Police and the State Court already runs weakly in Republika Srpska, which has its own police, courts, tax system, national flag and legal regime.

The only significant institutions it shares with the rest of the country are a currency, a vehicle licence plate regime, a common system of VAT and excise collection, border controls and the State Court. These will all be easy to dismantle. The euro could be formally adopted overnight. The central state account for indirect taxes is situated in Banja Luka and it would be no hard task to divert all indirect tax revenues received from RS territory into an exclusive RS account. In any event the RS finance minister can veto all decisions of the state indirect taxation authority, rendering it effortless to destroy the system from within.

The theoretically unified State Border Service is almost exclusively manned by Serb officials where Bosnia’s borders fall within RS territory. On the RS’s frontiers with Serbia, borders are almost invisible.

The State Court was once a force to be reckoned with, but since 2003 it has been reliant upon international judges and prosecutors and funded by foreign donors. Such an arrangement was never sustainable; and the Court’s international officials are now fleeing in light of Serb politicians’ threats to block their reappointment. The courts of the RS are loyal to Dodik, and will not faithfully apply state laws against RS interests.

Dodik’s motivations in pursuing a detachment agenda are plain. Whereas politics in the Federation are divided between warring politicians from two ethnic groups, five major political parties and ten cantons, politics in the RS is remarkably unitary. Everything is managed within one political party, and, ultimately, by one man.

Compellingly, detachment from the rest of Bosnia is what the overwhelming majority of Bosnia’s Serbs want.
They share a collective paranoia about cultural and political dominance by a Bosniak majority. Fears of dominance and persecution have driven politics in the Western Balkans for centuries, and nothing has happened in the past fourteen years since the end of Bosnia’s war to extinguish them.

The only force preventing the RS’s detachment since 1995 has been the Office of the High Representative, issuing centralizing decrees backed by military force and diplomatic pressure. But since 2006, as the peacekeeping troops have departed and international interest in the region has waned, the High Representative’s powers have faded. Dodik has publicly pronounced on several occasions that he considers the actions of the High Representative illegal and will ignore them.

The current High Representative, Austria’s Valentin Inzko, dares not attempt to dismiss Dodik by decree lest Dodik makes good on his threat to march 50,000 Serb demonstrators to Sarajevo. Moreover a change of leader in the RS would make things worse, not better.

It is often forgotten that by Bosnian Serb standards, Dodik is a moderate. It may be tough for international community negotiators to accept but Dodik represents the most liberal wing of mainstream Bosnian Serb political thinking. Any replacement might be far more extreme, seeking independence within a more truncated timescale, or being more prone to creating inter-ethnic provocations that may precipitate violent clashes.

Dodik’s plan for the RS is incremental. Independence will be pursued piecemeal, as one tie to the central state after another is sequentially cut. By the time the RS is de facto independent, already not far off, the international community will barely have noticed.

As with the case of Montenegro, by the time the formal declaration of independence is made the event will be a fait accompli.
It might once have been possible to strike a grand bargain between Bosnia’s three ethnic groups: Bosniaks would accept a loose confederation structure in exchange for Serb and Croat relinquishment of separatist aspirations. Alas, the prospects for this moderately optimistic scenario have all but evaporated, due in large measure to clumsy interference by OHR. For example, a domestic political procedure known as the “Prud Agreement” was an initially promising series of meetings between the Bosniak, Croat and Serb leaders of Bosnia’s three principal parties that mapped out a structure for the country’s constitutional future after the OHR’s departure. Ultimately, however, the OHR-sponsored criminal investigation into Dodik’s finances disrupted this initiative.

If therefore the independence of Republika Srpska looks increasingly inevitable, what should the international community do when it happens?

Bosniak politicians and the OHR will urge the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, “annul” independence, and perhaps rewrite the Bosnian constitution to abolish the Republika Srpska or eradicate the consociational voting system that allows Serbs and Croats to veto state-level initiatives. Such a radical course – tearing up the entire post-war constitutional structure – is tempting, but exceptionally dangerous.

If such radical measures were applied only after independence (or a referendum on independence) had been declared, they would be too late. Dodik would either ignore them or use them as a pretext to accelerate his agenda. They could be enforced only by armed intervention in the RS, and occupation by foreign troops; but the necessary soldiers are neither available nor are their political masters willing to commit them in an era in which foreign military adventurism has a bad name.

To stand any hope of success without massive military commitment, High Representative imposition would have to occur before the momentum for independence is irreversible. It would have to take place tomorrow. But at this time there is no international consensus about the desirability of actions of this enormity. It would have to be a US initiative; the EU would almost certainly not support such a measure, considering proconsular constitutional restructuring incompatible with its regional programme.

Moreover, it is almost certainly too late. The time unilaterally to rewrite Bosnia’s constitution was in 1999, when the RS was at its weakest and foreign troops were still present in significant numbers. But to act then would have made Bosnia an internationally administered colony indefinitely, a responsibility which nobody wanted to undertake, which is why it was not done. The contemporary situation is quite different. If it were possible for the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, it would have happened in the last two years. The OHR is now too weak and the RS too strong to expect such dramatic orders to be enforced. Ultimately, they would destroy what is left of the international community’s credibility in the country, because they would not be obeyed.

In that scenario – a hastened declaration of RS independence triggered by dramatic OHR action – Bosniaks, in the name of defending the Constitution and the authority of the High Representative, might take up arms. The flashpoint would be Brcko, the free city formerly administered by the US government but which has since been abandoned, having not a single US citizen (beyond a couple of Bosnian-American dual nationals) now residing there.

The greatest single impediment to RS independence is geography: its extended territory is difficult to defend and Brcko is its weakest point. Bosniaks might reclaim the officially neutral territory using military force, seeking to cut the RS in two. The international community could then send a small military force into Brcko, ostensibly to stabilize inter-ethnic conflict but in fact to give themselves bargaining power with Dodik through military division of his territory.

If Croatia’s support could be garnered, the borders with the western RS could be closed, encircling the RS capital Banja Luka with hostile neighbours. But this strategy would be exceptionally risky. What would be the exit strategy for the foreign troops? How would they avoid being drawn into sporadic acts of violence?

The gravest danger in this scenario would be the reactions of Bosnia’s neighbours. Serbia might supply material aid to Bosnia’s Serbs. Irregular militias might cross the border from Serbia to the RS as happened in the 1992-95 war. Croatia might refuse to cooperate, due to the likely reaction of Bosnia’s Croats. They have their own separatist aspirations. The fact that the entire region’s stability is at stake if a clumsy approach is taken to the RS’s separatist ambitions is why nothing has been done, and why Dodik remains in office under the international community’s sufferance.

This impotence may be unfortunate, but the international community must reckon with its own lack of power if it is to make sound policy decisions. The High Representative’s recent strategy is to engage in domestic politics with Dodik: to use such institutions as he has at his disposal against him, such as investigations by the State Court. The aim is apparently to weaken Dodik, and occupy him with domestic political battles rather than the pursuit of an RS statehood project.

But this approach has no end game. Sooner or later the High Representative and his fellow international officials will leave; Dodik will stay. Second, even if it succeeds, a successor to Dodik will almost certainly be more extreme and push the country into crisis more rapidly. Third, the plan of moderating separatist ambitions through creation of ancillary political problems may have the opposite political effect. It may accelerate separatism as the most effective means of counter-attack.

It is, therefore, not hard to conclude that the current strategy of the High Representative is part of the problem rather than the solution. What other options are available? One is to do nothing – abandon hard power in post-war Bosnia and let the country’s domestic politicians make of it what they can, at least in the short term. Perhaps they will dust off a grand bargain and catastrophe can be averted. Left to its own devices, the RS might find reason to cooperate with the Federation over a number of issues, leaving some state institutions formally intact.

There is plenty of commercial activity between Bosnia’s entities. This would suggest an economic rationale for retaining a common currency (now pegged against the euro and remarkably stable), common transport and infrastructure, free movement of goods, people and services, harmonized legal systems, and even a common regime of indirect taxation.

If and when some act of de jure independence does occur, the international community may be forced reluctantly to accept it. Short of military intervention, there is little it will be able to do. Russia would veto UN sanctions. The EU probably would refuse to recognise RS passports and other documents but it is not clear what this would achieve beyond imposing fresh hardships on the population. In any event most Bosnian Serbs hold Serbian passports. Current foreign investors in the RS, many of whom are from Eastern European members of the EU, would lobby against economic isolation of the RS. Its situation appears economically and politically stable: in the centre of Europe, it has a tolerably professional government, a measure of foreign investment, and an unsubsidised, balanced, government budget.

International isolation of an independent RS will prove difficult and in all likelihood unproductive as it is unlikely to achieve any significant result. A diplomatic black hole in the centre of Europe will also be dangerous to Western Europe’s security interests. If a self-proclaimed independent RS is not recognised, it cannot sign extradition treaties, it cannot be a member of INTERPOL, and it is difficult to send international technical assistance to support domestic police and security forces (as happens currently).
If formal recognition of Republika Srpska as an independent state by Western Europe and the United States is unrealistic, there are some prudent steps that pragmatic Western powers can undertake to guard against the danger of violent conflict erupting when Bosnia collapses. Every measure should be used to ensure that even if gradual de facto independence is inevitable, and to a great extent has already occurred, any act of declaration of de jure independence – which might incite Bosniaks to take up arms, and Croats to themselves secede – is postponed indefinitely. If the proper aim is delay, the international community can do nothing better than to leave the country alone, at least for now. The current strategy – of giving Dodik pretexts to detach himself from the rest of Bosnia – can only catalyse the secessionist agenda.

Second, temperate politicians must be supported. The Prud negotiations showed voices of moderation exist in post-war Bosnia. The international community must restrain Bosniaks from doing what will come naturally to them – fighting to prevent the disintegration of their country. However much sympathy for the Bosniaks’ situation one may have, knowing the atrocities perpetrated against them, their political aspiration of a unified Bosnia governed by majority rule is possible only for so long as the international community is prepared to run the country as a colony. That level of commitment has evaporated. The Bosniaks must thus be gently disabused of their unitary political agenda, or they surely will be prepared to go to war for it, and foreign Muslim fighters will again be drawn in as they were in the 1992-95 war.

For international politicians familiar with the injustices of Bosnia’s first war, this is an unpalatable message. But the time is long past for pursuit of perfect moral ideals. There danger of catastrophe unfolding in Bosnia is real and the overwhelming aim must be to prevent a second Bosnian war. The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration with a moderating hand, ensuring it happens slowly, so its citizens become accustomed to the evolving political landscape. We must keep all parties calm and moderate, to prevent outbreaks of local violence or wholesale mobilisation. In this unenviable position into which the international community has manoeuvered itself, this is the best we can now do.

Matthew Parish was formerly Chief Legal Adviser to the International Supervisor of Brcko. His book on international intervention in post-war Bosnia, A Free City in the Balkans: Reconstructing a Divided Society in Bosnia, is published by I.B. Tauris. http://www.matthewparish.com

#208 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 10:03
by Orbini
Ukratko Matthew Parish nekadašnji pravni savjetnik u uredu supervizora za Brčko, misli da RS moze lako razmontirati nametnuto i preko noci uvesti Euro, jedinsten sistem, obezbjediti grnicu i sl.

Metju vjerovatno nezna da se Brcko poprilicno promijenilo od njegovog vremena i da tu vise nema kontinuiteta RS, da granica RS ne ide samo preko par punktova na Savi, vec valja obezbjediti granicu preko bosanskih planina, a nije mi poznato da se Euro uvodi tek tako,...

Sve u svemu jos jedna amaterska analiza, i otkrivanje tople vode glede nastojanja srpske politike.

#209 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 10:07
by michio
Meni je zapanjujuce koliko ljudi u BiH zivi u uvjerenju da "oni nas ne vole".

#210 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 10:44
by sarlo
michio wrote:Meni je zapanjujuce koliko ljudi u BiH zivi u uvjerenju da "oni nas ne vole".
Nije to uvjerenje, to je Bil Klinton rekao. I mnogo drugih, ozbiljnih ljudi koji su imali izvore informacija i direktno ucestvovali u Bosanskoj prici. Time se ne treba opterecivati i lamentirati nad tom cinjenicom, ali uvijek je treba imati u vidu.
Nervira me lakovjernost i tvrdoglava, beskonacna naivnost-kretenizam. Kad si tesko bolestan i kad ti vise vrhunskih doktora kazu dijagnozu, ti trebas slusati komsiju koji ti kaze nije to nista!

#211 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 10:47
by michio
I sta. znaci li to da nas Bil Clinton i Helmut Kohl ne vole.

#212 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 11:15
by sarlo
michio wrote:I sta. znaci li to da nas Bil Clinton i Helmut Kohl ne vole.
Ne treba banalizirati. Klinton kaze da se nije intervenisalo u Bosni zato sto su Evropski politicari zbog emotivnih razloga (mrznje i sl.) to sprijecili.
Naravno da ima politicara koji su bili na nasoj strani, ali kad se povuce crta i kad treba da se reaguje na dogadjaje u Bosni Evropska politika ce uvijek biti protiv Bosne (vize, Dodik,..) i samo to treba uzeti u obzir. Njemacka je izuzetak, ali ni ona nije uticala na Hrvatsku da zaustavi rat u Bosni. A mogla je.
Mi smo mala zemlja i zanemarivati negativan uticaj evropske poltike u Bosni je stavljanje poveza na oci....naivnost, lakovjernost.

#213 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 11:51
by michio
Medjunarodna zajednica je u BiH samo radi Bosnjaka. Jos nisam cuo od Bosnjaka da zeli MZ van BiH dok istovremeno uvjeravaju narod da "oni nas ne vole". Vidim efikasni su.

#214 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 11:58
by sarlo
michio wrote:Medjunarodna zajednica je u BiH samo radi Bosnjaka. Jos nisam cuo od Bosnjaka da zeli MZ van BiH dok istovremeno uvjeravaju narod da "oni nas ne vole". Vidim efikasni su.
Mislim da MZ (izuzev normalnih medjunarodnih odnosa) treba da se povuce iz Bosne. Tacka.

#215 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 13:47
by vaca
michio wrote:Meni je zapanjujuce koliko ljudi u BiH zivi u uvjerenju da "oni nas ne vole".
I meni je zapanjujuće da ljudi u kontekstu međudržavnih odnosa i politike pričaju o ljubavi!

#216 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 13:57
by dallton
michio wrote:Medjunarodna zajednica je u BiH samo radi Bosnjaka. Jos nisam cuo od Bosnjaka da zeli MZ van BiH dok istovremeno uvjeravaju narod da "oni nas ne vole". Vidim efikasni su.
kad se kaze "ne vole" ne misli se "trebalo bi da nas vole" nego se misli "interesi su im suprotni nasim"

#217 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 14:03
by dallton
Bosnolog wrote:Interesantan clanak za analizu stanaj u BiH kao i jedan od mogucih razvoja dogadaja u skorijoj buducnosti,iako smo do sada o ovom scenariu mnogo pisali ali vrijedi procitati i analizirati ulogu MZ u BiH kao posljedice tolerisanja fasisoidnog Dodika u njegovom anti drzavnom ponasanju i opstrukcijama spram njegovih secesionistickih najava i prijetnji a o cemu pise jedan od onih koji su bili angazovani u BiH.
Postavlja se pitanje da li nas to Mz zeli naviknuti da se pomirimo sa sudbinom podjele i nestanak BiH,zakljucimo sami sta je poruka ovog teksta i sto i kako se treba postaviti u slucaju realizacije nekih dijelova istog.

Izvor; http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/comment/23797/



Republika Srpska: After Independence
| 19 November 2009 | By Matthew Parish

Bosnia’s gradual disintegration would appear inevitable. The only question is how the international community will, and should, react to this process.
A new state – “Republika Srpska” - is shortly to be born in South Eastern Europe, the eighth to emerge from the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. The delivery of this troubling new child will be neither easy nor straightforward.

People may die, and diplomatic isolation may follow. The choices the international community makes in the aftermath of these events will be critically important to the welfare of all the people of the region. For Western policymakers it will be a matter of choosing the lesser evil.

Ever since the 1995 peace agreement at Dayton divided the country into two highly autonomous “entities”, it was manifest, even from its name, that the Republika Srpska had pretensions towards statehood. But after the atrocities committed by Serb forces in the Bosnian war, the West viewed the creation of Republika Srpska as a necessary evil at best, a “genocidal creation” in the words of the current Bosniak President, Haris Silajdzic, to be eventually dismantled. This goal, once achieved, would compensate the Bosniaks for the collective guilt the international community felt for having failed to intervene earlier during the conflict.

To pursue this objective, the High Representative was invested with broad and unchecked legal authorities to dismiss elected officials, impose legislation, and freeze parties’ bank accounts. Although the constitution agreed at Dayton limited central government authorities to a paltry catalogue, by 2006 the number of functions performed by the state were significant, including prosecution of war crimes and financial crime, foreign affairs, indirect taxation, central banking, and EU negotiations. These structures were created by threatening Bosnian Serb politicians, sullied by associations with wartime crimes, with a one-way ticket to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia, ICTY, if they refused to cooperate. The new central institutions were funded from outside Bosnia’s bankrupt domestic economy through foreign aid.

But then two things changed. Most fundamentally, everyone who could be deported to The Hague had been, and the wartime Bosnian Serb political party, the Serb Democratic Party, SDS, had been emasculated through the measures taken by successive High Representatives.

This led to the rise of Milorad Dodik, a different brand of Bosnian Serb politician, untainted by participation in the war. His new party, the Alliance of Independent Social Democrats, SNSD, could not be bullied by High Representatives’ threats, as his officials had no wartime record to hold against them.

Second, international interest in Bosnia faded, and the high levels of development funds needed to keep state institutions operating dried up. The Bosnian tax system, chronically inefficient and corrupt, was increasingly relied upon to fund the central state. These two factors, combined with a withdrawal of foreign peacekeeping troops, coalesced just as Milorad Dodik became Prime Minister of Republika Srpska in January 2006.

Dodik shares many of the qualities of Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Tough, shrewd, uninterested in democracy, and determined to elevate his nation’s status after a decade of weakness, he is a formidable opponent for the weak and ineffective international figures remaining in Bosnia. Uncontaminated by the Republika Srpska’s wartime past, and buoyed by international criticism of the heavy-handed tactics previously employed by Bosnia’s international governors, he is invulnerable to the High representatives’ traditional methods.

He has taken to embarrassing the High Representative by frustrating his every endeavour. The High Representative can do little to constrain him. He has no money to withhold – Republika Srpska now receives investment from Eastern Europe and Russia – and no troops to send; international peacekeepers remain in only negligible numbers. When the High Representative’s office tried to pin corruption charges on Dodik, he shut down the State Court. He then shut down the state electricity company. When the international community tried to impose a centralised police management on the country, Dodik frustrated it. When the High Representative tried to change voting in the State Council of Ministers, Dodik had the State Prime Minister, a Serb, resign, throwing the central government into paralysis.

In theory, the High Representative can dismiss Dodik. But the High Representative’s notional authority is now bereft of might because there is no way of enforcing it. There are no foreign troops to evict Dodik from office.

The State Police are small in number and ethnically divided and no match for Dodik’s RS Police. Bosnia has no army of substance. The RS controls its own tax revenues and can financially withdraw from the rest of the country without significant sanction.

Dodik’s agenda in the short term is to detach the Republika Srpska from dependence upon the central state institutions. This will be straightforward to achieve, because central government and indeed the Dayton Constitution incorporate “consociationalist” principles whereby decisions can only be taken by consensus of all three of the country’s ethnic groups. Provided he can continue to control most Serb officials, Dodik can block every decision of substance. The writ of the State Police and the State Court already runs weakly in Republika Srpska, which has its own police, courts, tax system, national flag and legal regime.

The only significant institutions it shares with the rest of the country are a currency, a vehicle licence plate regime, a common system of VAT and excise collection, border controls and the State Court. These will all be easy to dismantle. The euro could be formally adopted overnight. The central state account for indirect taxes is situated in Banja Luka and it would be no hard task to divert all indirect tax revenues received from RS territory into an exclusive RS account. In any event the RS finance minister can veto all decisions of the state indirect taxation authority, rendering it effortless to destroy the system from within.

The theoretically unified State Border Service is almost exclusively manned by Serb officials where Bosnia’s borders fall within RS territory. On the RS’s frontiers with Serbia, borders are almost invisible.

The State Court was once a force to be reckoned with, but since 2003 it has been reliant upon international judges and prosecutors and funded by foreign donors. Such an arrangement was never sustainable; and the Court’s international officials are now fleeing in light of Serb politicians’ threats to block their reappointment. The courts of the RS are loyal to Dodik, and will not faithfully apply state laws against RS interests.

Dodik’s motivations in pursuing a detachment agenda are plain. Whereas politics in the Federation are divided between warring politicians from two ethnic groups, five major political parties and ten cantons, politics in the RS is remarkably unitary. Everything is managed within one political party, and, ultimately, by one man.

Compellingly, detachment from the rest of Bosnia is what the overwhelming majority of Bosnia’s Serbs want.
They share a collective paranoia about cultural and political dominance by a Bosniak majority. Fears of dominance and persecution have driven politics in the Western Balkans for centuries, and nothing has happened in the past fourteen years since the end of Bosnia’s war to extinguish them.

The only force preventing the RS’s detachment since 1995 has been the Office of the High Representative, issuing centralizing decrees backed by military force and diplomatic pressure. But since 2006, as the peacekeeping troops have departed and international interest in the region has waned, the High Representative’s powers have faded. Dodik has publicly pronounced on several occasions that he considers the actions of the High Representative illegal and will ignore them.

The current High Representative, Austria’s Valentin Inzko, dares not attempt to dismiss Dodik by decree lest Dodik makes good on his threat to march 50,000 Serb demonstrators to Sarajevo. Moreover a change of leader in the RS would make things worse, not better.

It is often forgotten that by Bosnian Serb standards, Dodik is a moderate. It may be tough for international community negotiators to accept but Dodik represents the most liberal wing of mainstream Bosnian Serb political thinking. Any replacement might be far more extreme, seeking independence within a more truncated timescale, or being more prone to creating inter-ethnic provocations that may precipitate violent clashes.

Dodik’s plan for the RS is incremental. Independence will be pursued piecemeal, as one tie to the central state after another is sequentially cut. By the time the RS is de facto independent, already not far off, the international community will barely have noticed.

As with the case of Montenegro, by the time the formal declaration of independence is made the event will be a fait accompli.
It might once have been possible to strike a grand bargain between Bosnia’s three ethnic groups: Bosniaks would accept a loose confederation structure in exchange for Serb and Croat relinquishment of separatist aspirations. Alas, the prospects for this moderately optimistic scenario have all but evaporated, due in large measure to clumsy interference by OHR. For example, a domestic political procedure known as the “Prud Agreement” was an initially promising series of meetings between the Bosniak, Croat and Serb leaders of Bosnia’s three principal parties that mapped out a structure for the country’s constitutional future after the OHR’s departure. Ultimately, however, the OHR-sponsored criminal investigation into Dodik’s finances disrupted this initiative.

If therefore the independence of Republika Srpska looks increasingly inevitable, what should the international community do when it happens?

Bosniak politicians and the OHR will urge the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, “annul” independence, and perhaps rewrite the Bosnian constitution to abolish the Republika Srpska or eradicate the consociational voting system that allows Serbs and Croats to veto state-level initiatives. Such a radical course – tearing up the entire post-war constitutional structure – is tempting, but exceptionally dangerous.

If such radical measures were applied only after independence (or a referendum on independence) had been declared, they would be too late. Dodik would either ignore them or use them as a pretext to accelerate his agenda. They could be enforced only by armed intervention in the RS, and occupation by foreign troops; but the necessary soldiers are neither available nor are their political masters willing to commit them in an era in which foreign military adventurism has a bad name.

To stand any hope of success without massive military commitment, High Representative imposition would have to occur before the momentum for independence is irreversible. It would have to take place tomorrow. But at this time there is no international consensus about the desirability of actions of this enormity. It would have to be a US initiative; the EU would almost certainly not support such a measure, considering proconsular constitutional restructuring incompatible with its regional programme.

Moreover, it is almost certainly too late. The time unilaterally to rewrite Bosnia’s constitution was in 1999, when the RS was at its weakest and foreign troops were still present in significant numbers. But to act then would have made Bosnia an internationally administered colony indefinitely, a responsibility which nobody wanted to undertake, which is why it was not done. The contemporary situation is quite different. If it were possible for the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, it would have happened in the last two years. The OHR is now too weak and the RS too strong to expect such dramatic orders to be enforced. Ultimately, they would destroy what is left of the international community’s credibility in the country, because they would not be obeyed.

In that scenario – a hastened declaration of RS independence triggered by dramatic OHR action – Bosniaks, in the name of defending the Constitution and the authority of the High Representative, might take up arms. The flashpoint would be Brcko, the free city formerly administered by the US government but which has since been abandoned, having not a single US citizen (beyond a couple of Bosnian-American dual nationals) now residing there.

The greatest single impediment to RS independence is geography: its extended territory is difficult to defend and Brcko is its weakest point. Bosniaks might reclaim the officially neutral territory using military force, seeking to cut the RS in two. The international community could then send a small military force into Brcko, ostensibly to stabilize inter-ethnic conflict but in fact to give themselves bargaining power with Dodik through military division of his territory.

If Croatia’s support could be garnered, the borders with the western RS could be closed, encircling the RS capital Banja Luka with hostile neighbours. But this strategy would be exceptionally risky. What would be the exit strategy for the foreign troops? How would they avoid being drawn into sporadic acts of violence?

The gravest danger in this scenario would be the reactions of Bosnia’s neighbours. Serbia might supply material aid to Bosnia’s Serbs. Irregular militias might cross the border from Serbia to the RS as happened in the 1992-95 war. Croatia might refuse to cooperate, due to the likely reaction of Bosnia’s Croats. They have their own separatist aspirations. The fact that the entire region’s stability is at stake if a clumsy approach is taken to the RS’s separatist ambitions is why nothing has been done, and why Dodik remains in office under the international community’s sufferance.

This impotence may be unfortunate, but the international community must reckon with its own lack of power if it is to make sound policy decisions. The High Representative’s recent strategy is to engage in domestic politics with Dodik: to use such institutions as he has at his disposal against him, such as investigations by the State Court. The aim is apparently to weaken Dodik, and occupy him with domestic political battles rather than the pursuit of an RS statehood project.

But this approach has no end game. Sooner or later the High Representative and his fellow international officials will leave; Dodik will stay. Second, even if it succeeds, a successor to Dodik will almost certainly be more extreme and push the country into crisis more rapidly. Third, the plan of moderating separatist ambitions through creation of ancillary political problems may have the opposite political effect. It may accelerate separatism as the most effective means of counter-attack.

It is, therefore, not hard to conclude that the current strategy of the High Representative is part of the problem rather than the solution. What other options are available? One is to do nothing – abandon hard power in post-war Bosnia and let the country’s domestic politicians make of it what they can, at least in the short term. Perhaps they will dust off a grand bargain and catastrophe can be averted. Left to its own devices, the RS might find reason to cooperate with the Federation over a number of issues, leaving some state institutions formally intact.

There is plenty of commercial activity between Bosnia’s entities. This would suggest an economic rationale for retaining a common currency (now pegged against the euro and remarkably stable), common transport and infrastructure, free movement of goods, people and services, harmonized legal systems, and even a common regime of indirect taxation.

If and when some act of de jure independence does occur, the international community may be forced reluctantly to accept it. Short of military intervention, there is little it will be able to do. Russia would veto UN sanctions. The EU probably would refuse to recognise RS passports and other documents but it is not clear what this would achieve beyond imposing fresh hardships on the population. In any event most Bosnian Serbs hold Serbian passports. Current foreign investors in the RS, many of whom are from Eastern European members of the EU, would lobby against economic isolation of the RS. Its situation appears economically and politically stable: in the centre of Europe, it has a tolerably professional government, a measure of foreign investment, and an unsubsidised, balanced, government budget.

International isolation of an independent RS will prove difficult and in all likelihood unproductive as it is unlikely to achieve any significant result. A diplomatic black hole in the centre of Europe will also be dangerous to Western Europe’s security interests. If a self-proclaimed independent RS is not recognised, it cannot sign extradition treaties, it cannot be a member of INTERPOL, and it is difficult to send international technical assistance to support domestic police and security forces (as happens currently).
If formal recognition of Republika Srpska as an independent state by Western Europe and the United States is unrealistic, there are some prudent steps that pragmatic Western powers can undertake to guard against the danger of violent conflict erupting when Bosnia collapses. Every measure should be used to ensure that even if gradual de facto independence is inevitable, and to a great extent has already occurred, any act of declaration of de jure independence – which might incite Bosniaks to take up arms, and Croats to themselves secede – is postponed indefinitely. If the proper aim is delay, the international community can do nothing better than to leave the country alone, at least for now. The current strategy – of giving Dodik pretexts to detach himself from the rest of Bosnia – can only catalyse the secessionist agenda.

Second, temperate politicians must be supported. The Prud negotiations showed voices of moderation exist in post-war Bosnia. The international community must restrain Bosniaks from doing what will come naturally to them – fighting to prevent the disintegration of their country. However much sympathy for the Bosniaks’ situation one may have, knowing the atrocities perpetrated against them, their political aspiration of a unified Bosnia governed by majority rule is possible only for so long as the international community is prepared to run the country as a colony. That level of commitment has evaporated. The Bosniaks must thus be gently disabused of their unitary political agenda, or they surely will be prepared to go to war for it, and foreign Muslim fighters will again be drawn in as they were in the 1992-95 war.

For international politicians familiar with the injustices of Bosnia’s first war, this is an unpalatable message. But the time is long past for pursuit of perfect moral ideals. There danger of catastrophe unfolding in Bosnia is real and the overwhelming aim must be to prevent a second Bosnian war. The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration with a moderating hand, ensuring it happens slowly, so its citizens become accustomed to the evolving political landscape. We must keep all parties calm and moderate, to prevent outbreaks of local violence or wholesale mobilisation. In this unenviable position into which the international community has manoeuvered itself, this is the best we can now do.

Matthew Parish was formerly Chief Legal Adviser to the International Supervisor of Brcko. His book on international intervention in post-war Bosnia, A Free City in the Balkans: Reconstructing a Divided Society in Bosnia, is published by I.B. Tauris. http://www.matthewparish.com
ovo je preradjena verzija teksta koju je perish napisao vec prije nekih 2 godine...
greske u interpretaciji stanje na terenu: brcko vise nikako ne moze biti srpsko - nesrpska vecina je stvorena, i povezana s ostatkom teritorije..podrinje je prazno i to nema ko da brani i jos sasjeceno u dva dijela - znaci njegova potencijalna nezavisna pc bi bila tri nevezane enklave, ona najveca oko banja luka...sto se tice potencijalnih stranih ratnika oni su djelom vec u bih, a docice uvijek kad zatreba koliko god godina (protok vremena kojem se metju nada) jer za te strane ratnike cilj nije bosna nego je dovoljno da im se kaze "ratuje se protiv muslimana" i eto njih - da li sad za godinu, dvije, ili 50 (kao sto primjeri na mnogim stranama svijeta pokazuju) ...toliko o izvodljivosti plana...
ah da ovo sam zaboravio - moramo zadrzati sve strane mirne i umjerene - kako ces to strucnjak izvesti, preko tihica? :D

#218 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 14:12
by michio
vaca wrote:
michio wrote:Meni je zapanjujuce koliko ljudi u BiH zivi u uvjerenju da "oni nas ne vole".
I meni je zapanjujuće da ljudi u kontekstu međudržavnih odnosa i politike pričaju o ljubavi!
Ko prica o ljubavi?
"Oni nas ne vole" je prica koja se svjesno podmece Bosnjacima od 95-e.

#219 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 14:24
by gael
dallton wrote:
Bosnolog wrote:Interesantan clanak za analizu stanaj u BiH kao i jedan od mogucih razvoja dogadaja u skorijoj buducnosti,iako smo do sada o ovom scenariu mnogo pisali ali vrijedi procitati i analizirati ulogu MZ u BiH kao posljedice tolerisanja fasisoidnog Dodika u njegovom anti drzavnom ponasanju i opstrukcijama spram njegovih secesionistickih najava i prijetnji a o cemu pise jedan od onih koji su bili angazovani u BiH.
Postavlja se pitanje da li nas to Mz zeli naviknuti da se pomirimo sa sudbinom podjele i nestanak BiH,zakljucimo sami sta je poruka ovog teksta i sto i kako se treba postaviti u slucaju realizacije nekih dijelova istog.

Izvor; http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/comment/23797/



Republika Srpska: After Independence
| 19 November 2009 | By Matthew Parish

Bosnia’s gradual disintegration would appear inevitable. The only question is how the international community will, and should, react to this process.
A new state – “Republika Srpska” - is shortly to be born in South Eastern Europe, the eighth to emerge from the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. The delivery of this troubling new child will be neither easy nor straightforward.

People may die, and diplomatic isolation may follow. The choices the international community makes in the aftermath of these events will be critically important to the welfare of all the people of the region. For Western policymakers it will be a matter of choosing the lesser evil.

Ever since the 1995 peace agreement at Dayton divided the country into two highly autonomous “entities”, it was manifest, even from its name, that the Republika Srpska had pretensions towards statehood. But after the atrocities committed by Serb forces in the Bosnian war, the West viewed the creation of Republika Srpska as a necessary evil at best, a “genocidal creation” in the words of the current Bosniak President, Haris Silajdzic, to be eventually dismantled. This goal, once achieved, would compensate the Bosniaks for the collective guilt the international community felt for having failed to intervene earlier during the conflict.

To pursue this objective, the High Representative was invested with broad and unchecked legal authorities to dismiss elected officials, impose legislation, and freeze parties’ bank accounts. Although the constitution agreed at Dayton limited central government authorities to a paltry catalogue, by 2006 the number of functions performed by the state were significant, including prosecution of war crimes and financial crime, foreign affairs, indirect taxation, central banking, and EU negotiations. These structures were created by threatening Bosnian Serb politicians, sullied by associations with wartime crimes, with a one-way ticket to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia, ICTY, if they refused to cooperate. The new central institutions were funded from outside Bosnia’s bankrupt domestic economy through foreign aid.

But then two things changed. Most fundamentally, everyone who could be deported to The Hague had been, and the wartime Bosnian Serb political party, the Serb Democratic Party, SDS, had been emasculated through the measures taken by successive High Representatives.

This led to the rise of Milorad Dodik, a different brand of Bosnian Serb politician, untainted by participation in the war. His new party, the Alliance of Independent Social Democrats, SNSD, could not be bullied by High Representatives’ threats, as his officials had no wartime record to hold against them.

Second, international interest in Bosnia faded, and the high levels of development funds needed to keep state institutions operating dried up. The Bosnian tax system, chronically inefficient and corrupt, was increasingly relied upon to fund the central state. These two factors, combined with a withdrawal of foreign peacekeeping troops, coalesced just as Milorad Dodik became Prime Minister of Republika Srpska in January 2006.

Dodik shares many of the qualities of Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Tough, shrewd, uninterested in democracy, and determined to elevate his nation’s status after a decade of weakness, he is a formidable opponent for the weak and ineffective international figures remaining in Bosnia. Uncontaminated by the Republika Srpska’s wartime past, and buoyed by international criticism of the heavy-handed tactics previously employed by Bosnia’s international governors, he is invulnerable to the High representatives’ traditional methods.

He has taken to embarrassing the High Representative by frustrating his every endeavour. The High Representative can do little to constrain him. He has no money to withhold – Republika Srpska now receives investment from Eastern Europe and Russia – and no troops to send; international peacekeepers remain in only negligible numbers. When the High Representative’s office tried to pin corruption charges on Dodik, he shut down the State Court. He then shut down the state electricity company. When the international community tried to impose a centralised police management on the country, Dodik frustrated it. When the High Representative tried to change voting in the State Council of Ministers, Dodik had the State Prime Minister, a Serb, resign, throwing the central government into paralysis.

In theory, the High Representative can dismiss Dodik. But the High Representative’s notional authority is now bereft of might because there is no way of enforcing it. There are no foreign troops to evict Dodik from office.

The State Police are small in number and ethnically divided and no match for Dodik’s RS Police. Bosnia has no army of substance. The RS controls its own tax revenues and can financially withdraw from the rest of the country without significant sanction.

Dodik’s agenda in the short term is to detach the Republika Srpska from dependence upon the central state institutions. This will be straightforward to achieve, because central government and indeed the Dayton Constitution incorporate “consociationalist” principles whereby decisions can only be taken by consensus of all three of the country’s ethnic groups. Provided he can continue to control most Serb officials, Dodik can block every decision of substance. The writ of the State Police and the State Court already runs weakly in Republika Srpska, which has its own police, courts, tax system, national flag and legal regime.

The only significant institutions it shares with the rest of the country are a currency, a vehicle licence plate regime, a common system of VAT and excise collection, border controls and the State Court. These will all be easy to dismantle. The euro could be formally adopted overnight. The central state account for indirect taxes is situated in Banja Luka and it would be no hard task to divert all indirect tax revenues received from RS territory into an exclusive RS account. In any event the RS finance minister can veto all decisions of the state indirect taxation authority, rendering it effortless to destroy the system from within.

The theoretically unified State Border Service is almost exclusively manned by Serb officials where Bosnia’s borders fall within RS territory. On the RS’s frontiers with Serbia, borders are almost invisible.

The State Court was once a force to be reckoned with, but since 2003 it has been reliant upon international judges and prosecutors and funded by foreign donors. Such an arrangement was never sustainable; and the Court’s international officials are now fleeing in light of Serb politicians’ threats to block their reappointment. The courts of the RS are loyal to Dodik, and will not faithfully apply state laws against RS interests.

Dodik’s motivations in pursuing a detachment agenda are plain. Whereas politics in the Federation are divided between warring politicians from two ethnic groups, five major political parties and ten cantons, politics in the RS is remarkably unitary. Everything is managed within one political party, and, ultimately, by one man.

Compellingly, detachment from the rest of Bosnia is what the overwhelming majority of Bosnia’s Serbs want.
They share a collective paranoia about cultural and political dominance by a Bosniak majority. Fears of dominance and persecution have driven politics in the Western Balkans for centuries, and nothing has happened in the past fourteen years since the end of Bosnia’s war to extinguish them.

The only force preventing the RS’s detachment since 1995 has been the Office of the High Representative, issuing centralizing decrees backed by military force and diplomatic pressure. But since 2006, as the peacekeeping troops have departed and international interest in the region has waned, the High Representative’s powers have faded. Dodik has publicly pronounced on several occasions that he considers the actions of the High Representative illegal and will ignore them.

The current High Representative, Austria’s Valentin Inzko, dares not attempt to dismiss Dodik by decree lest Dodik makes good on his threat to march 50,000 Serb demonstrators to Sarajevo. Moreover a change of leader in the RS would make things worse, not better.

It is often forgotten that by Bosnian Serb standards, Dodik is a moderate. It may be tough for international community negotiators to accept but Dodik represents the most liberal wing of mainstream Bosnian Serb political thinking. Any replacement might be far more extreme, seeking independence within a more truncated timescale, or being more prone to creating inter-ethnic provocations that may precipitate violent clashes.

Dodik’s plan for the RS is incremental. Independence will be pursued piecemeal, as one tie to the central state after another is sequentially cut. By the time the RS is de facto independent, already not far off, the international community will barely have noticed.

As with the case of Montenegro, by the time the formal declaration of independence is made the event will be a fait accompli.
It might once have been possible to strike a grand bargain between Bosnia’s three ethnic groups: Bosniaks would accept a loose confederation structure in exchange for Serb and Croat relinquishment of separatist aspirations. Alas, the prospects for this moderately optimistic scenario have all but evaporated, due in large measure to clumsy interference by OHR. For example, a domestic political procedure known as the “Prud Agreement” was an initially promising series of meetings between the Bosniak, Croat and Serb leaders of Bosnia’s three principal parties that mapped out a structure for the country’s constitutional future after the OHR’s departure. Ultimately, however, the OHR-sponsored criminal investigation into Dodik’s finances disrupted this initiative.

If therefore the independence of Republika Srpska looks increasingly inevitable, what should the international community do when it happens?

Bosniak politicians and the OHR will urge the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, “annul” independence, and perhaps rewrite the Bosnian constitution to abolish the Republika Srpska or eradicate the consociational voting system that allows Serbs and Croats to veto state-level initiatives. Such a radical course – tearing up the entire post-war constitutional structure – is tempting, but exceptionally dangerous.

If such radical measures were applied only after independence (or a referendum on independence) had been declared, they would be too late. Dodik would either ignore them or use them as a pretext to accelerate his agenda. They could be enforced only by armed intervention in the RS, and occupation by foreign troops; but the necessary soldiers are neither available nor are their political masters willing to commit them in an era in which foreign military adventurism has a bad name.

To stand any hope of success without massive military commitment, High Representative imposition would have to occur before the momentum for independence is irreversible. It would have to take place tomorrow. But at this time there is no international consensus about the desirability of actions of this enormity. It would have to be a US initiative; the EU would almost certainly not support such a measure, considering proconsular constitutional restructuring incompatible with its regional programme.

Moreover, it is almost certainly too late. The time unilaterally to rewrite Bosnia’s constitution was in 1999, when the RS was at its weakest and foreign troops were still present in significant numbers. But to act then would have made Bosnia an internationally administered colony indefinitely, a responsibility which nobody wanted to undertake, which is why it was not done. The contemporary situation is quite different. If it were possible for the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, it would have happened in the last two years. The OHR is now too weak and the RS too strong to expect such dramatic orders to be enforced. Ultimately, they would destroy what is left of the international community’s credibility in the country, because they would not be obeyed.

In that scenario – a hastened declaration of RS independence triggered by dramatic OHR action – Bosniaks, in the name of defending the Constitution and the authority of the High Representative, might take up arms. The flashpoint would be Brcko, the free city formerly administered by the US government but which has since been abandoned, having not a single US citizen (beyond a couple of Bosnian-American dual nationals) now residing there.

The greatest single impediment to RS independence is geography: its extended territory is difficult to defend and Brcko is its weakest point. Bosniaks might reclaim the officially neutral territory using military force, seeking to cut the RS in two. The international community could then send a small military force into Brcko, ostensibly to stabilize inter-ethnic conflict but in fact to give themselves bargaining power with Dodik through military division of his territory.

If Croatia’s support could be garnered, the borders with the western RS could be closed, encircling the RS capital Banja Luka with hostile neighbours. But this strategy would be exceptionally risky. What would be the exit strategy for the foreign troops? How would they avoid being drawn into sporadic acts of violence?

The gravest danger in this scenario would be the reactions of Bosnia’s neighbours. Serbia might supply material aid to Bosnia’s Serbs. Irregular militias might cross the border from Serbia to the RS as happened in the 1992-95 war. Croatia might refuse to cooperate, due to the likely reaction of Bosnia’s Croats. They have their own separatist aspirations. The fact that the entire region’s stability is at stake if a clumsy approach is taken to the RS’s separatist ambitions is why nothing has been done, and why Dodik remains in office under the international community’s sufferance.

This impotence may be unfortunate, but the international community must reckon with its own lack of power if it is to make sound policy decisions. The High Representative’s recent strategy is to engage in domestic politics with Dodik: to use such institutions as he has at his disposal against him, such as investigations by the State Court. The aim is apparently to weaken Dodik, and occupy him with domestic political battles rather than the pursuit of an RS statehood project.

But this approach has no end game. Sooner or later the High Representative and his fellow international officials will leave; Dodik will stay. Second, even if it succeeds, a successor to Dodik will almost certainly be more extreme and push the country into crisis more rapidly. Third, the plan of moderating separatist ambitions through creation of ancillary political problems may have the opposite political effect. It may accelerate separatism as the most effective means of counter-attack.

It is, therefore, not hard to conclude that the current strategy of the High Representative is part of the problem rather than the solution. What other options are available? One is to do nothing – abandon hard power in post-war Bosnia and let the country’s domestic politicians make of it what they can, at least in the short term. Perhaps they will dust off a grand bargain and catastrophe can be averted. Left to its own devices, the RS might find reason to cooperate with the Federation over a number of issues, leaving some state institutions formally intact.

There is plenty of commercial activity between Bosnia’s entities. This would suggest an economic rationale for retaining a common currency (now pegged against the euro and remarkably stable), common transport and infrastructure, free movement of goods, people and services, harmonized legal systems, and even a common regime of indirect taxation.

If and when some act of de jure independence does occur, the international community may be forced reluctantly to accept it. Short of military intervention, there is little it will be able to do. Russia would veto UN sanctions. The EU probably would refuse to recognise RS passports and other documents but it is not clear what this would achieve beyond imposing fresh hardships on the population. In any event most Bosnian Serbs hold Serbian passports. Current foreign investors in the RS, many of whom are from Eastern European members of the EU, would lobby against economic isolation of the RS. Its situation appears economically and politically stable: in the centre of Europe, it has a tolerably professional government, a measure of foreign investment, and an unsubsidised, balanced, government budget.

International isolation of an independent RS will prove difficult and in all likelihood unproductive as it is unlikely to achieve any significant result. A diplomatic black hole in the centre of Europe will also be dangerous to Western Europe’s security interests. If a self-proclaimed independent RS is not recognised, it cannot sign extradition treaties, it cannot be a member of INTERPOL, and it is difficult to send international technical assistance to support domestic police and security forces (as happens currently).
If formal recognition of Republika Srpska as an independent state by Western Europe and the United States is unrealistic, there are some prudent steps that pragmatic Western powers can undertake to guard against the danger of violent conflict erupting when Bosnia collapses. Every measure should be used to ensure that even if gradual de facto independence is inevitable, and to a great extent has already occurred, any act of declaration of de jure independence – which might incite Bosniaks to take up arms, and Croats to themselves secede – is postponed indefinitely. If the proper aim is delay, the international community can do nothing better than to leave the country alone, at least for now. The current strategy – of giving Dodik pretexts to detach himself from the rest of Bosnia – can only catalyse the secessionist agenda.

Second, temperate politicians must be supported. The Prud negotiations showed voices of moderation exist in post-war Bosnia. The international community must restrain Bosniaks from doing what will come naturally to them – fighting to prevent the disintegration of their country. However much sympathy for the Bosniaks’ situation one may have, knowing the atrocities perpetrated against them, their political aspiration of a unified Bosnia governed by majority rule is possible only for so long as the international community is prepared to run the country as a colony. That level of commitment has evaporated. The Bosniaks must thus be gently disabused of their unitary political agenda, or they surely will be prepared to go to war for it, and foreign Muslim fighters will again be drawn in as they were in the 1992-95 war.

For international politicians familiar with the injustices of Bosnia’s first war, this is an unpalatable message. But the time is long past for pursuit of perfect moral ideals. There danger of catastrophe unfolding in Bosnia is real and the overwhelming aim must be to prevent a second Bosnian war. The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration with a moderating hand, ensuring it happens slowly, so its citizens become accustomed to the evolving political landscape. We must keep all parties calm and moderate, to prevent outbreaks of local violence or wholesale mobilisation. In this unenviable position into which the international community has manoeuvered itself, this is the best we can now do.

Matthew Parish was formerly Chief Legal Adviser to the International Supervisor of Brcko. His book on international intervention in post-war Bosnia, A Free City in the Balkans: Reconstructing a Divided Society in Bosnia, is published by I.B. Tauris. http://www.matthewparish.com
ovo je preradjena verzija teksta koju je perish napisao vec prije nekih 2 godine...
greske u interpretaciji stanje na terenu: brcko vise nikako ne moze biti srpsko - nesrpska vecina je stvorena, i povezana s ostatkom teritorije..podrinje je prazno i to nema ko da brani i jos sasjeceno u dva dijela - znaci njegova potencijalna nezavisna pc bi bila tri nevezane enklave, ona najveca oko banja luka...sto se tice potencijalnih stranih ratnika oni su djelom vec u bih, a docice uvijek kad zatreba koliko god godina (protok vremena kojem se metju nada) jer za te strane ratnike cilj nije bosna nego je dovoljno da im se kaze "ratuje se protiv muslimana" i eto njih - da li sad za godinu, dvije, ili 50 (kao sto primjeri na mnogim stranama svijeta pokazuju) ...toliko o izvodljivosti plana...
ah da ovo sam zaboravio - moramo zadrzati sve strane mirne i umjerene - kako ces to strucnjak izvesti, preko tihica? :D

ne cita mi se cijeli tekst ali na kraju autor u principu kaze da je raspad bosne neizbjezan i da je najmanje losa opcija moderirati taj neizbjazni raspad bosne malo po malo tako da se sve strane na to priviknu i taj raspad prihvate bez sukoba.

The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration with a moderating hand, ensuring it happens slowly, so its citizens become accustomed to the evolving political landscape. We must keep all parties calm and moderate, to prevent outbreaks of local violence or wholesale mobilisation. In this unenviable position into which the international community has manoeuvered itself, this is the best we can now do.

#220 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 15:24
by vaca
michio wrote:
vaca wrote:
michio wrote:Meni je zapanjujuce koliko ljudi u BiH zivi u uvjerenju da "oni nas ne vole".
I meni je zapanjujuće da ljudi u kontekstu međudržavnih odnosa i politike pričaju o ljubavi!
Ko prica o ljubavi?
"Oni nas ne vole" je prica koja se svjesno podmece Bosnjacima od 95-e.
Pa da. I ne samo Bošnjacima.

#221 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 18:05
by Orbini
London (RTM) - Bivši visoki predstavnik u BiH Paddy Ashdown smatra da je "OHR mrtvo tijelo i da ga je potrebno na odgovorajući način odbaciti".

Ashdown je rekao da bi međunarodna zajednica trebalo da zadrži "rezervna ovlaštenja" nad politikom u BiH, navodeći primjer Savezničke kontrolne komisije koja je imala pravnu nadmoć u Njemačkoj do 1991. godine.

Britanski diplomat smatra da EU treba hitno da razmotri svoju politiku prema BiH, ocjenjujući da se ta država "kreće ka raspadu".

Prema njegovim mišljenju, nedavni razgovori između BiH političara, kojima su predsjedavali EU i SAD, bili su vrlo loše pripremljeni i samo su pogoršali situaciju.
"Europa je umjesečarila u razgovore, ali se nadam da će se probuditi prije nego što se kriza pojavi na naslovnim stranama novina", rekao je Ashdown, prenosi europski internet portal "European Voice".
On je naglasio da je način na koji je EU planirala nedavne butmirske razgovore samo umanjio "poštovanje" prema OHR-u među stanovnicima BiH



Zna li mozda stari obavjestajac da se priprema nesto davno dogovoreno?

#222 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 18:17
by sansun
Holbrooke engineered the sudden division of Bosnia into two federal "entities". The larger one, containing Sarajevo, was broadly Muslim, the smaller one mainly Serbian.
Do kada će naši nepismeni političari biti slijepi i jednom za sva vremena odgovoriti medijima u Evropi da u BiH ne postoje "Muslimani"!? Kao prvo, ovdje ne postoji narod koji se po narodnosti ili naciji kao "Muslimani" deklariše a kao drugo, ni po religijskoj pripadnosti nisu svi Bošnjaci muslimani.

Možda ću im ja neki protest poslati kada to ova bošnjačka kvaziintelektualna bagra ne umije. A pogotovo me čudi što se zbog ovoga ne bune Bošnjaci ateisti i Bosanci koji očigledno nisu ni svjesni u šta su strpani.

#223 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 21/11/2009 19:00
by dallton
Orbini wrote:London (RTM) - Bivši visoki predstavnik u BiH Paddy Ashdown smatra da je "OHR mrtvo tijelo i da ga je potrebno na odgovorajući način odbaciti".

Ashdown je rekao da bi međunarodna zajednica trebalo da zadrži "rezervna ovlaštenja" nad politikom u BiH, navodeći primjer Savezničke kontrolne komisije koja je imala pravnu nadmoć u Njemačkoj do 1991. godine.

Britanski diplomat smatra da EU treba hitno da razmotri svoju politiku prema BiH, ocjenjujući da se ta država "kreće ka raspadu".

Prema njegovim mišljenju, nedavni razgovori između BiH političara, kojima su predsjedavali EU i SAD, bili su vrlo loše pripremljeni i samo su pogoršali situaciju.
"Europa je umjesečarila u razgovore, ali se nadam da će se probuditi prije nego što se kriza pojavi na naslovnim stranama novina", rekao je Ashdown, prenosi europski internet portal "European Voice".
On je naglasio da je način na koji je EU planirala nedavne butmirske razgovore samo umanjio "poštovanje" prema OHR-u među stanovnicima BiH



Zna li mozda stari obavjestajac da se priprema nesto davno dogovoreno?
zna on mnogo ali govori kontra od onoga sto zna - "naslovna strana novina" ne znaci sigurno da je bih u novinama jer je otisla na svjetsko prvenstvo, vec nesto drugo :D

#224 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 22/11/2009 16:16
by osa
mišljenje nekadašnjeg međunarodnog službenika u brčkom.



Parish: OHR ne može spriječiti raspad BiH

Možda je nekada bilo moguće napraviti deal među tri naroda u BiH. Bošnjaci su mogli prihvatiti labavu konfederaciju, pod uvjetom da se Srbi i Hrvati odreknu separatizma. No, to sada jako teško izvodivo ponajviše zbog trapavog miješanja OHR-a u sve i svašta - piše Parish.


Postupni nestanak Bosne i Hercegovine je neizbježan. jedino je pitanje kako će i kako bi međunarodna zajednica reagirala na taj proces, piše Matthew Parish nekadašnji pravni savjetnik u uredu supervizora za Brčko.


U tekstu koji je objavljen na portalu balkaninsight.com, Parish, koga prate brojne kontroverze iz vremena boravka u BiH, između ostalog tvrdi da međunarodna zajednica ne može puno toga uraditi da spriječi raspad BiH.



Inzko ne može ništa



On precizira da je metoda premijera RS Milorada Dodika već oprobana u Crnoj Gori, te da visoki predstavnik praktično ne može ništa uraditi.


Najistureniji čovjek međunarodne zajednice u BiH, po Parishu, samo teoretski može smijeniti Dodika. Ali, OHR-u više na raspolaganju nije vojna sila koja bi premijera RS iselila iz ureda. Ako bi se, kojim čudom, visoki predstavnik odlučio smijeniti Dodika, Parish najavljuje "50.000 srpskih demonstranata u Sarajevu".


- Dodikov kratkoročni plan je da RS ne bude ovisna od državnih institucija - piše Parish i pojašnjava da to i nije tako teško, obzirom da za svaku odluku treba i suglasnost Srba.

Lako razmontirati



Moneta, registracijske tablice, PDV sistem, granična kontrola i državni sud su jedine institucije na nivou BiH.



- Njih je lako "razmontirati". Preko noći se u RS može uvesti euro, centralni račun za PDV je ionako u Banja Luci i nije teško preusmjeriti sve uplate s područja RS na jedan račun. Ministar financija RS u Upravi za neizravno oporezivanje može do u beskonačnost blokirati bilo koju odluku dovodeći do toga da se sistem uništi iznutra - piše Parish.



On precizira i da je "Dodikov plan za nezavisnu RS je postupan".


- Nezavisnost će se stjecati korak po korak, kako se budu raskidale jedna po jedna veze s centralnom državom. U trenutku kada RS faktički bude nezavisna, što već sada i nije tako daleko, međunarodna zajednica jedva da će i primjetiti taj čin.


Kao i u slučaju Crne Gore, deklaracija o nezavisnosti bit će tek završni čin cijelog procesa.


Možda je nekada bilo moguće napraviti dil među tri naroda u BiH. Bošnjaci su mogli prihvatiti labavu konfederaciju, pod uvjetom da se Srbi i Hrvati odreknu separatizma. No, to sada jako teško izvodivo ponajviše zbog trapavog miješanja OHR-a u sve i svašta - piše Parish.


Zapad je nemoćan


Parish ističe da faktički Zapad ne može ništa uraditi da spriječi raspad BiH. On tvrdi da bi Rusija u UN-u blokirala rezoluciju o sankcijama protiv RS, "EU vjerojatno ne bi priznala putovnice RS, ali nije jasno šta bi time postigla ... jer većina bh. Srba ima srbijanske putovnice. Puno je investicija u RS iz zemalja istočnog dijela EU i vlade tih država lobirale bi protiv ekonomske izolacije RS.

#225 Re: Bosna u stranim medijima

Posted: 22/11/2009 18:55
by 1gorstak
osa wrote:mišljenje nekadašnjeg međunarodnog službenika u brčkom.
Onog trenutka kada Dodik skupi hrabrosti da proglasi nezavisnost, njegova policija ce postati legitimna meta. Zato im toplo preporucujem da u slucaju pokusaja otcjepljenja, uzmu bolovanje. Cak i ako politicari u Sarajevu postupe izdajnicki i ne bude naredbe o slanju nasih tenkova ka zgradi vlade manjeg entiteta, Dodikovi policajci se od snajperskog metka ispaljenog iz busije nece moci odbraniti.