#186751 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 23/10/2023 17:50
kluz franjo wrote: ↑23/10/2023 13:55 Stefan Korshak o aktuelnim dešavanjima i srednjoročnim implikacijama...
https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/oc ... hey-really
U vezi trenutne situacije u i oko Avdiivke:SpoilerShowO motivima za ovu akciju:The way it looks to me, over the past three weeks, the Russians have thrown away something like 2–4 brigades of trained, regular army troops, against the very strongest Ukrainian fortifications on the entire front, for very close to zero results. Or, something like 200 combat vehicles destroyed and not recoverable, and 1000–1500 men killed or severely wounded.
The last 2–3 weeks of fighting at Avdiivka are a serious battlefield defeat and the worst probably suffered by the Russians in the entire war since they tried to force crossings on the Siviersky Donets River in May 2022O implikacijama neuračunljivosti i gluposti ruskog vojnog i državnog vrha:Everything we have seen from the Russian military leadership so far, makes more than likely that a major driver of these attacks and everything they involved — their assumptions, conception, task organization, and execution — was simply that generals several levels of the chain of command above the soldiers actually going out under the Ukrainian artillery fire, concluded they had to try something to show Putin the army has the initiative and is attacking in Ukraine. Soldier lives and fighting capacity in the future were, in the judgement of those Russian military leaders, I am guessing, far less important.I’ll leave it to others to decide what other states starting with Ukraine should do to deal with the, as I see it, dysfunctional inertia of the Russian military-industrial complex. It’s certainly not good news — even a stupidly-run army the size of the Russians’ could, unless it cracks internally, take years to break on the battlefield.
Nije problem kolega. Ukratko...Hame_ wrote: ↑23/10/2023 17:57kluz franjo wrote: ↑23/10/2023 13:55 Stefan Korshak o aktuelnim dešavanjima i srednjoročnim implikacijama...
https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/oc ... hey-really
U vezi trenutne situacije u i oko Avdiivke:SpoilerShowO motivima za ovu akciju:The way it looks to me, over the past three weeks, the Russians have thrown away something like 2–4 brigades of trained, regular army troops, against the very strongest Ukrainian fortifications on the entire front, for very close to zero results. Or, something like 200 combat vehicles destroyed and not recoverable, and 1000–1500 men killed or severely wounded.
The last 2–3 weeks of fighting at Avdiivka are a serious battlefield defeat and the worst probably suffered by the Russians in the entire war since they tried to force crossings on the Siviersky Donets River in May 2022O implikacijama neuračunljivosti i gluposti ruskog vojnog i državnog vrha:Everything we have seen from the Russian military leadership so far, makes more than likely that a major driver of these attacks and everything they involved — their assumptions, conception, task organization, and execution — was simply that generals several levels of the chain of command above the soldiers actually going out under the Ukrainian artillery fire, concluded they had to try something to show Putin the army has the initiative and is attacking in Ukraine. Soldier lives and fighting capacity in the future were, in the judgement of those Russian military leaders, I am guessing, far less important.I’ll leave it to others to decide what other states starting with Ukraine should do to deal with the, as I see it, dysfunctional inertia of the Russian military-industrial complex. It’s certainly not good news — even a stupidly-run army the size of the Russians’ could, unless it cracks internally, take years to break on the battlefield.
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*Počeću šopat kineske vijesti na kineskom pa čitaj. I ja radim copy-paste ali potrudim se da to prilagodim nama. Ovo je užas kopirati ovdje na stranom jeziku. Pa imam ja mnogo tih stranih izvora koje pratim, ali ovdje očekujem strani izvor s prevodom da ga razumijem.
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"Zahvalio sam Njegovom Kraljevskom Visočanstvu na osobnim naporima da osigura uspjeh sastanka Formule mira u Jeddahu. Pozvao sam predstavnika Saudijske Arabije da sudjeluje u sljedećem krugu razgovora na Malti i naglasio važnost uloge Kraljevine u pripremama za Globalni mirovni samit", rekao je Zelenski.
"Razgovarali smo i o situaciji na Bliskom istoku. Naglasio sam potrebu da se spriječi daljnja eskalacija sukoba i stradanje civila", dodao je Zelenski.
Nakon sastanka ministara vanjskih poslova EU u ponedjeljak, Josep Borrell, prvi diplomat Europske unije, potvrdio je da nije usvojena odluka o dodjeli tranše od 500 milijuna eura za pomoć Ukrajini u oružju. Borrel je rekao da su ministri vanjskih poslova razgovarali o tome kako zadovoljiti "najhitnije obrambene potrebe Ukrajine".
"Još nismo uspjeli riješiti problem osme i posljednje tranše Europskog fonda za mir. Još uvijek tražimo rješenje za to pitanje, ali na ovaj ili onaj način ćemo ga naći", rekao je. Mediji su objavili da je odluku blokirala Mađarska. Borrell je dodao da su ministri također raspravljali o odobrenju više milijardi dolara vrijednog zasebnog programa za financiranje vojne pomoći Ukrajini u okviru Europskog mirovnog fonda, ali čekaju političke smjernice Europskog vijeća koje će se sastati ovaj tjedan.
Ukrajina je početkom listopada skinula mađarsku OTP banku s popisa "sponzora rata", čime je udovoljeno jednom od ključnih zahtjeva Budimpešte. Prošli tjedan EU je izrazila nadu da će Mađarska deblokirati osmu tranšu vojne pomoći Ukrajini.
Sami će otić'.
Ja sam često pominjao da je udarac na Vodyane kljuc za odbranu Avdivke.Hame_ wrote: ↑23/10/2023 21:03 Ovdje ako ukrajinci ne probiju južno, gube sjeverno i time Avdivku.
Jebaža žešća. Zombiji nadiru... opet! Nije me ih strah, samo treba ukrajincima dovoljno oružja da ih se izroka... EUROPO i USA, doće ovo cjepidlačenje vama na naplatu, jebaće nas Zombiji![]()
A mene boli kukrac i šipu racku. Od 1992. ovo je za mene Bonus život.
Sad je haman i nema, zalazu se za promjene koje bi i tak dio regulisali
Već sutra, 24. listopada, Njemačka će objaviti dobre vijesti za Ukrajinu. Detalji još nisu poznati – Kuleba