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#166326 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 00:55
by drug_profi
Termovizija nekad otkriva detalje...
Nije za curice.
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#166327 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 00:57
by drug_profi
Kad maca dodje na vratanca...
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#166328 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 00:58
by drug_profi

#166329 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:01
by drug_profi
Mnijem da je ovaj sam sebi prekratio muke.

Nije za curice, sekeperse, i alergicne na suncokret.
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#166330 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:14
by drug_profi
Hodakovski kuka da su se u njegovoj pozadini, na tradicionalnoj ruti kretanja grupa iz rotacije u rotaciju, iz nekog razloga iznenada pojavile ruske mine koje je netko od Rusa postavio.

U uništenom automobilu bili su operateri bespilotnih letjelica - četiri najbolja stručnjaka koji su upravo radili na lokaciji Novodonjeck...

Zaista je čudno zašto su se mine pojavile samo tamo, a ne po cijeloj pozadini, nakon sukoba "vagnerovaca" i ruske vojske.

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#166331 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:18
by JoseMujica


idemooooooooo

#166332 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:21
by drug_profi
Kakvi su ovo momenti? Nešto im se pukovnik zamjerio? Ili je pukovnik mozda iz krugova pokreta otpora?
Apel u ime Legije "Sloboda Rusije" Jevgeniju Prigožinu.

Apeliramo na vas, jer je cijela provladina elita, u osobi Gladkova, nositelja Ordena za hrabrost, kukavički sjedila, ostavljajući svoje ljude u zarobljeništvu, dok su vlastite trupe topništvom pokrivale mirne gradove.

Kako nam je postalo poznato, zapovjednik 72. brigade Oružanih snaga RF, potpukovnik Roman Vinivitin, zarobljen je od strane boraca PMC Wagner. Kao gestu dobre volje nudimo zamjenu za nekoliko boraca Oružanih snaga RF koje smo zarobili tijekom oslobodilačkih borbi u Belgorodskoj oblasti.

Riječ je o poštenoj razmjeni bez dodatnih uvjeta. O detaljima zamjene ćemo se dodatno dogovoriti.

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#166333 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:27
by drug_profi
WTF?!
Dobrovoljci Legije "Sloboda Rusije" i RDC-a ušli su na teritorij Belgorodske oblasti kroz tajni podzemni tunel, koji je GUR Ukrajine tajno iskopao Rusima pred nosom.

#166334 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:38
by drug_profi
Slika koja zamjenjuje riječi.


#166335 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:39
by jeza u ledja
U jeku price o sabotazi brane, izadje ovakav clanak:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/p ... gence.html

Americans Were Aware of Intelligence Warning of Ukrainian Pipeline Attacks

U.S. intelligence agencies learned from a European ally that the Ukrainian military had planned an attack on the Nord Stream pipelines, three months before saboteurs bombed the underwater network, The Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

American officials had previously told The New York Times that they believed pro-Ukrainian groups were responsible for the Nord Stream attack. More recently, American officials have said that groups loosely directed by Ukraine’s government were responsible for a series of covert attacks, including on the Nord Stream pipelines.

But an intelligence summary posted on a Discord server and obtained by The Washington Post showed that U.S. and European allies had reason to believe even before the September attacks that Ukraine viewed the pipelines as a tempting sabotage target — and had specific details about a planned operation using divers and deepwater equipment.

The C.I.A. shared the European intelligence report with Germany and other countries last June, The Post reported. When warning Germany, officials said, nothing was held back from what the U.S. government knew.

While some U.S. officials are becoming more comfortable with Ukraine’s covert attacks on Russia, concerns remain about the possibility of miscalculation by Ukraine while conducting such operations. Sabotaging the Nord Stream pipelines was exactly the kind of operation that would concern the United States — a symbolic attack with little military value that carries a high risk of fracturing the alliance supporting Ukraine.

So far, that has not happened. Even as Germany and other European countries have learned of Ukrainian involvement in the pipeline attack, they have nevertheless increased their military aid.

American officials insisted on Tuesday there has been no determination about who within the Ukrainian government may have planned or authorized the attack. If it is eventually pinned on senior officials, European attitudes about support for Ukraine could change.

The Post withheld some details of the intelligence, including the name of the European country giving the report to the United States, to protect the sources of the information.

U.S. officials have long acknowledged they were aware of a warning that came from a European ally about a potential attack on the pipelines, but for months after the attack they maintained they were unsure who conducted it.

While officials acknowledged there was some early intelligence pointing to Ukraine, they said it was contradicted by other material, in essence saying they did not believe the European warning was a smoking gun.

As the investigation continued, U.S. and allied officials became more convinced that pro-Ukrainian groups carried out the attack and parts of the Ukrainian government were somehow involved.

The Post reported that the European intelligence report said the Ukrainian operatives involved in the plot to destroy the pipelines reported to Gen. Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine’s senior military officer.

American officials have still not confirmed General Zaluzhnyi’s involvement. But they said again on Tuesday that they do not believe President Volodymyr Zelensky knew about it. Officials have previously described a system created by Ukraine’s government that insulates Mr. Zelensky from covert action programs.

That allows parts of the Ukrainian government to use pro-Ukrainian groups or sympathizers in Russia to conduct covert attacks, and for Mr. Zelensky to deny responsibility for such actions.

The C.I.A. declined to discuss the document or the attack investigation. John F. Kirby, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said he would not discuss intelligence matters, highlighting that the document was “one that The Washington Post even said was not corroborated by U.S. intelligence agencies.”

Mr. Kirby said the United States was still awaiting the results of three ongoing investigations of the Nord Stream sabotage.

Officials say the United States is unlikely to place any public blame for the destruction of the pipelines on Ukraine until after those investigations are done.

#166336 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:40
by drug_profi
Ne znam jel karananu ovo sta zbunilo...
Ruski kanali izvijestili su o još jednoj "pobjedi". Na Krimu je lokalna protuzračna obrana uništila ukrajinski dron.

No kako se pokazalo, Rusi su još jednom prijateljskom vatrom uništili svoju bespilotnu letjelicu "Mohajer-6", koju Ruskoj Federaciji isporučuje Iran.

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#166337 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:43
by drug_profi
Jedan grupni bub


#166338 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 01:45
by drug_profi
Svi volimo eksplozije.
A neki od nas najvise vole velike eksplozije.
Za laku noc ide jedna.

Artiljerija gađa, gađa, i na kraju pogađa.... :mrgreen:


#166339 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 06:55
by SanskiBiser


Borci harkovske TO iz 225. bataljona uhvatili su neke ruske okupatore na periferiji Bakhmuta za "razmjenski fond"
6 zarobljenih iz CVK tj. PMC VETERAN, neki ce se sjetiti da je to nova privatna organizacija po uzoru na Wagner o kojoj se pricalo da kupuju rezerviste VRF da bi popunili svoje redove...

#166340 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 07:04
by Crvene_brigade
Ukrajinci gledali kako je ruske vojnike odnijela voda: ‘Potopljene su pukovnije!‘; Pogledajte satelitske snimke potopa

Ukrajinski vojnici svjedočili su kako su ruske vojnike odnijele poplavne vode i kako bježe s istočne obale rijeke Dnjipro nakon urušavanja brane Nova Kahovka, rekao je časnik ukrajinskih oružanih snaga. Mnogi ruski vojnici su poginuli ili ranjeni u kaosu, naveo je on, kako javlja CNN.
Kapetan Andrej Pidlisni rekao je da, kada se brana urušila u ranim jutarnjim satima u utorak, "nitko s ruske strane nije uspio pobjeći. Sve pukovnije koje su Rusi imali na toj strani bile su potopljene".
Pidlisni je rekao za CNN kako vjeruje da su Rusi namjerno napali branu kako bi poremetili planove ukrajinskih snaga za nadolazeću ofenzivu.
"Oko 3 sata ujutro neprijatelj je digao u zrak hidroelektranu Kahovka kako bi podigao razinu vode i poplavio prilaze i lijevu obalu rijeke Dnjipro, kao i naselja koja se tamo nalaze. I onemogućio napredovanje ukrajinskih oružanih snaga u budućnosti", ustvrdio je.
Pidlisni je objasnio da nagib tla oko rijeke znači da je ruska vojska - smještena na istočnoj obali - pretrpjela ozbiljne udarce probijanjem brane. Njegova je postrojba mogla promatrati razvoj događaja korištenjem bespilotnih letjelica i vojnika na mjestu događaja.
"Lijeva (istočna) obala niža je od desne pa je više poplavljena. Potopljeni su i neprijateljski položaji na samoj obali rijeke. Morate shvatiti da položaji neprijatelja nisu samo rovovi, već i obične kuće civila u kojima su živjeli", rekao je Pidlisni.
Ruske jedinice koje su bile u opasnosti možda nisu bile upozorene, vjerojatno da bi se sačuvao element iznenađenja, rekao je Pidlisni.

#166341 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 07:15
by Ima Bosne_Bice Bosne
tranquil wrote: 06/06/2023 19:40
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laik1981 wrote: 06/06/2023 19:16 Malo je cudno sve ovo oko rusenja te brane. Da ne postoji neka mogucnost da se tu radi o kakvoj false flag operaciji ukrajinaca? Da li bi to moglo imati ikakvog smisla?
Šta je tačno "čudno"? Brana pod ruskom kontrolom, oštećena s unutrašnje strane, uz satelitske snimke koji to potvrđuju,, i prvobitno slavlje Rusa (dok nisu skontali šta su napravili). Nema ru ništa čudno.
Čak i činjenica da su Rusi glupi kao kamen za kupus nije čudna. I na to smo već navikli.
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#166342 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 07:30
by CrveniKuk
Navodno, još dodatnih 20 Mardera do kraja juna.

#166343 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 07:55
by madner
Najozbiljniji napad ZSU dosad oko Bakmuta. Imaju tamo puno dobrih jedinica.

#166344 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:09
by jarobot
CrveniKuk wrote: 07/06/2023 07:30 Navodno, još dodatnih 20 Mardera do kraja juna.
Moje skromno znanje engleskog kaže da je july -juli . Dakle do kraja jula..

#166345 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:14
by Tyke
Steta sto nema dron snimaka sa Juga, ne sumnjam da je tovar rusa negdje zarobljen ili unistan vodom usljed pada brane.
Sad ih se mozda i lakse moglo rokati i mrcvariti.

#166346 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:19
by Johny12
madner wrote: 07/06/2023 07:55 Najozbiljniji napad ZSU dosad oko Bakmuta. Imaju tamo puno dobrih jedinica.
To od ribara pokupio?

#166347 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:32
by SanskiBiser
madner wrote: 07/06/2023 07:55 Najozbiljniji napad ZSU dosad oko Bakmuta. Imaju tamo puno dobrih jedinica.
da , Kenneth vec sedmicama spominje da mu nije jasno zasto se ne koriste tamo te jedinice onako kako bi trebalo mozda su sad poceli, jer islo se jednim transporterom uz podrsku tenka i onda bi pjesadija preuzela posao uz podrsku artiljerije uglavnom minobacaca a mehanizacija bi se povukla, ima snimak specijalne jedinice (Solncepek tako nekako) koja napreduje do ruskog polozaja bez ikakve podrske oklopa ili transportera samo artiljerija ih prati i dodju na 30ak metara od ruskih rovova , jedan im ranjen, drugi zovu artiljeriju da gadja po rovovima cekaju par minuta, dobijaju odogovor da su preblizu da nije sigurno za njih ako bi artiljerija dejstvovala i moraju se povuci stotinjak metera nazad odakle su krenuli...Ovakav pristup nije bilo bez velikog rizika, Rusi su slabi sa jedinicama na tim polozajima ali imaju iza dobre mobilne interventne jedinice koje uskacu da krpe liniju kad zatreba i brzo djeluju artiljerijom (zato ne cudi da je puno snimaka unistavanja ruske artiljerije na oba boka) tako se desilo na sjevernom boku da je iz 2. bataljona 56 motorizovane brigade u jednoj takvoj akciji poginulo 14-15 vojnika a 25 je zarobljeno o cemu je i Tom Cooper juce pisao....Sad su izgleda promjenili "plocu" i idu sa ozbiljnijim operacijama na oba kraka.

"Bakhmut…

Not sure even the ZSU is really ‘happy’ about the developments there. Essentially, and as well-known (and widely published), about two weeks ago, as the Wagner was in the process of securing the last corner of western Bakhmut, Ukrainians launched counterattacks north and south of the city. Sure, the assault of the 3rd Assautl Brigade almost caused a nervous breakdown to Prigozhin – because it mauled two companies of the Russian 72nd Motor Rifle, and then some. However, the II Battalion 56th Motor Brigade seems to have suffered significant losses (some 14-15 killed, up to 25 captured) while attacking north of the town. Moreover, the Russians then rushed so much artillery and reinforcements to the south, that even the 3rd Assault was eventually stopped before reaching Klishchivka (even if, apparently, recovering some of old positions ‘on that hill’ above the village)…..

Point is this: the VSRF has learned its lessons from the Ukrainian offensive in eastern Kharkiv of the last year, and nowadays is holding massive reinforcements well behind the frontline. Whenever there’s a crisis, selected units are alerted and rushed to counterattack. This is lessening the likelihood of just one battalion (or even less) of the ZSU punching through on a narrow sector and then collapsing an entire section of the frontline - like that happened in south-eastern Kharkiv, almost a year ago… "

https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/uk ... um=reader2

#166348 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:50
by sumirprimus
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dnevna dozasuncokreta
pazi artiljerije i vozila

#166349 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:53
by sumirprimus
SanskiBiser wrote: 07/06/2023 08:32
madner wrote: 07/06/2023 07:55 Najozbiljniji napad ZSU dosad oko Bakmuta. Imaju tamo puno dobrih jedinica.
da , Kenneth vec sedmicama spominje da mu nije jasno zasto se ne koriste tamo te jedinice onako kako bi trebalo mozda su sad poceli, jer islo se jednim transporterom uz podrsku tenka i onda bi pjesadija preuzela posao uz podrsku artiljerije uglavnom minobacaca a mehanizacija bi se povukla, ima snimak specijalne jedinice (Solncepek tako nekako) koja napreduje do ruskog polozaja bez ikakve podrske oklopa ili transportera samo artiljerija ih prati i dodju na 30ak metara od ruskih rovova , jedan im ranjen, drugi zovu artiljeriju da gadja po rovovima cekaju par minuta, dobijaju odogovor da su preblizu da nije sigurno za njih ako bi artiljerija dejstvovala i moraju se povuci stotinjak metera nazad odakle su krenuli...Ovakav pristup nije bilo bez velikog rizika, Rusi su slabi sa jedinicama na tim polozajima ali imaju iza dobre mobilne interventne jedinice koje uskacu da krpe liniju kad zatreba i brzo djeluju artiljerijom (zato ne cudi da je puno snimaka unistavanja ruske artiljerije na oba boka) tako se desilo na sjevernom boku da je iz 2. bataljona 56 motorizovane brigade u jednoj takvoj akciji poginulo 14-15 vojnika a 25 je zarobljeno o cemu je i Tom Cooper juce pisao....Sad su izgleda promjenili "plocu" i idu sa ozbiljnijim operacijama na oba kraka.

"Bakhmut…

Not sure even the ZSU is really ‘happy’ about the developments there. Essentially, and as well-known (and widely published), about two weeks ago, as the Wagner was in the process of securing the last corner of western Bakhmut, Ukrainians launched counterattacks north and south of the city. Sure, the assault of the 3rd Assautl Brigade almost caused a nervous breakdown to Prigozhin – because it mauled two companies of the Russian 72nd Motor Rifle, and then some. However, the II Battalion 56th Motor Brigade seems to have suffered significant losses (some 14-15 killed, up to 25 captured) while attacking north of the town. Moreover, the Russians then rushed so much artillery and reinforcements to the south, that even the 3rd Assault was eventually stopped before reaching Klishchivka (even if, apparently, recovering some of old positions ‘on that hill’ above the village)…..

Point is this: the VSRF has learned its lessons from the Ukrainian offensive in eastern Kharkiv of the last year, and nowadays is holding massive reinforcements well behind the frontline. Whenever there’s a crisis, selected units are alerted and rushed to counterattack. This is lessening the likelihood of just one battalion (or even less) of the ZSU punching through on a narrow sector and then collapsing an entire section of the frontline - like that happened in south-eastern Kharkiv, almost a year ago… "

https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/uk ... um=reader2
i to sto spominje spominje napad na nivou bataljona, dakle ako negdje krenu kao mamac i ruje posalju interventne jedinice a neamju ih za sve tacke, jasno je kako ukri mogu iskoristit situaciju.

#166350 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 07/06/2023 08:54
by sumirprimus


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