pozdrav i tebi!drug_profi wrote: ↑13/03/2023 23:50 pozdrav @haubici
respekt veliki od mene zauvijek
I upravo tako mislim da se nesto sprema.
Preko Soledara do Popasne, Preko Mayorska u istom pravcu.
Moze li ime bitki?geralt wrote: ↑13/03/2023 22:48Kinezi su imali omjere gubitaka po 10:1 ili 15:1 u bitkama pred kraj Korejskog rata, pa su gurali naprijed. Iranci su protiv Iraka takodjer imali ofanzivne "pobjede" sa gubicima po 5-10 puta vecim od irackih.madner wrote: ↑13/03/2023 22:34
Postavio sam ti thread covjeka koji isto tvrdi, a nije NATO izvor za 5:1 nego clanak koji navodi NATO izvore.
5:1 nema logike, ali sada bi ti trebao objasniti zasto uz 5 citata i ti bi opet bio zbunjen. Ali ako nadjes 3 bitke gdje je napadac bio uspjesan i imao taj negativni omjer postavim. Moze sve od WW2 do danas.
Budimo realni, nisi jos imao orginalnu misao koja je imala vrijednost za procitati. Ima botova sa vecim dometom od tvog.
To si upravo i dokazao, ako je omjer 5:1 onda nema nista sporno u strategiji drzanja grada jer bi imali fantastican uspjeh.
No bitka je daleko od zavrsene, sam Girkin priznaje da on smatra zimsku bitku atricije u Bahmutu ukrajinskom pobjedom cak i ako se zavrsi ruskim ulaskom u rusevine grada.
Staljingrad je prica o manjku Njemacke pjesadije, od Dona do Volge su kroz uspjehe gubili istu. Tako da zato nisu mogli preci zadnjih par stotina metara, mada su imali svu podrsku.haubica_i_to_teshka wrote: ↑13/03/2023 23:48gdje si madneru stari forumski druze, nikako da se (su)sretnemo?
Je l' to ziv bio, jos uvijek proucavas WWII?
kako se ono zavrshi "staljingradska" svabe opkolile drzale, onda ovi njih opkolili, pa najurili
meni nekako Bahmut na to "mirise", Ukrainci opkoljeni, da ne bud sad malo rusi opkoljeni okoBahmuta (hehe) svasta je moguce je l' tako!?
inace kako zivot, ljepsa polovina, slusas li?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ukubV6O2-gThe quality of Ukraine’s military force, once considered a substantial advantage over Russia, has been degraded by a year of casualties that have taken many of the most experienced fighters off the battlefield, leading some Ukrainian officials to question Kyiv’s readiness to mount a much-anticipated spring offensive.
U.S. and European officials have estimated that as many as 120,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded since the start of Russia’s invasion early last year, compared with about 200,000 on the Russian side, which has a much larger military and roughly triple the population from which to draw conscripts. Ukraine keeps its running casualty numbers secret, even from its staunchest Western supporters.
Statistics aside, an influx of inexperienced draftees, brought in to plug the losses, has changed the profile of the Ukrainian force, which is also suffering from basic shortages of ammunition, including artillery shells and mortar bombs, according to military personnel in the field.
“The most valuable thing in war is combat experience,” said a battalion commander in the 46th Air Assault Brigade, who is being identified only by his call sign, Kupol, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol. “A soldier who has survived six months of combat and a soldier who came from a firing range are two different soldiers. It’s heaven and earth.”
“And there are only a few soldiers with combat experience,” Kupol added. “Unfortunately, they are all already dead or wounded.”
Such grim assessments have spread a palpable, if mostly unspoken, pessimism from the front lines to the corridors of power in Kyiv, the capital. An inability by Ukraine to execute a much-hyped counteroffensive would fuel new criticism that the United States and its European allies waited too long, until the force had already deteriorated, to deepen training programs and provide armored fighting vehicles, including Bradleys and Leopard battle tanks.
Necu dugo, ne mogu srat kao ti.madner wrote: ↑13/03/2023 19:47Puding nema veze sa amnozitetom prema kepecu.drndalo wrote: ↑13/03/2023 19:09
Ako je on kepec, sta je onda Putin? Arvidas Sabonis? Gigant? Mega heroj? Steateg par exellence? Takticar svjetskog glasa? Ljubitelj predugackih stolova?
Da je Puko bio u slicnoj situaciji, da li bi rekao “treba mi municija, a ne evakuacija”...? Mozemo samo nagadjati, kod “kepeca” Zelenskog znamo...
Kepec, sto se mene tice, se u prvom planu inscenira i skuplja poene za domacu scenu. Vise je prethodnik uradio za spremanje vojske od njega, to sto su ih morali zaustaviti kod Kieva i Nikolajeva su njegove greske i da je Rusija bila 30% spremnija, mi bi sada se ganjali oko Banja Luke ili Doboja.
Ovo sad sto radi sa Bakmutom je meni van svake pameti, skuplja opet poene tako sto zavaljuje svoje ljude. Nema vojne logike, bio ili ne bio uspjesan kontranapad, ovdje pravi minus. Mozda na drugim mjestima prave dovoljno pluseva da ne bude bitno, ali opet se oslanja na Rusku slabost.
Pitas li se sto mu treba municija?
O ovom sam govorio kad su se trosili na Severnodonjecu, svi mi iz naseg rata znamo da su najbolji nezamjenjivi, njih ne stvara obuka, takvi se radjaju.Čitalac wrote: ↑14/03/2023 01:19 Popriličan pesimizam na stranicama Washington Posta...https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ukubV6O2-gSpoilerShowThe quality of Ukraine’s military force, once considered a substantial advantage over Russia, has been degraded by a year of casualties that have taken many of the most experienced fighters off the battlefield, leading some Ukrainian officials to question Kyiv’s readiness to mount a much-anticipated spring offensive.
U.S. and European officials have estimated that as many as 120,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded since the start of Russia’s invasion early last year, compared with about 200,000 on the Russian side, which has a much larger military and roughly triple the population from which to draw conscripts. Ukraine keeps its running casualty numbers secret, even from its staunchest Western supporters.
Statistics aside, an influx of inexperienced draftees, brought in to plug the losses, has changed the profile of the Ukrainian force, which is also suffering from basic shortages of ammunition, including artillery shells and mortar bombs, according to military personnel in the field.
“The most valuable thing in war is combat experience,” said a battalion commander in the 46th Air Assault Brigade, who is being identified only by his call sign, Kupol, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol. “A soldier who has survived six months of combat and a soldier who came from a firing range are two different soldiers. It’s heaven and earth.”
“And there are only a few soldiers with combat experience,” Kupol added. “Unfortunately, they are all already dead or wounded.”
Such grim assessments have spread a palpable, if mostly unspoken, pessimism from the front lines to the corridors of power in Kyiv, the capital. An inability by Ukraine to execute a much-hyped counteroffensive would fuel new criticism that the United States and its European allies waited too long, until the force had already deteriorated, to deepen training programs and provide armored fighting vehicles, including Bradleys and Leopard battle tanks.
Molim vas nemojte miješati religiju u ovu diskusiju... inače ode tema u teški off.Avetinho wrote: ↑14/03/2023 07:53 Posto vidim da se na ovoj temi nadimak "Kepec" trosi zavisno od toga kojoj religijskoj skupini pripada ucesnik diskusije, molio bih da se prije ili poslije nadimka koristi i licno ime, npr. Vladimir zvani "Kepec " ili Volodimir zvani "Kepec", tako da mi sto jedemo kokice znamo o kome se radi.
Da, odlican primjer si uzeo.Da nije Hakije bilo i njegovih diverzanskih upada, nikad kota nebi pala, to je ziva istina.Kako je poginuo, sve stade.Grean wrote: ↑14/03/2023 07:53O ovom sam govorio kad su se trosili na Severnodonjecu, svi mi iz naseg rata znamo da su najbolji nezamjenjivi, njih ne stvara obuka, takvi se radjaju.Čitalac wrote: ↑14/03/2023 01:19 Popriličan pesimizam na stranicama Washington Posta...https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ukubV6O2-gSpoilerShow
Ne radja se Hakija Mrso svaki dan, rodjen 71' tada kad je uzeo kotu 850 (namjerno pisem u jednini jer po iskazima ucesnika najzasluzniji) 22-godisnji momak.
