#127301 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 19/10/2022 19:30
Znaci, ako sam dobro shvatio, instaliram aplikaciju i uperim je u zenu i punicu, a onda odem sa jaranom na kahvu...
Great was the joy when news of prisoner exchange came the other day. Now the horrible details of violence, abuse, and threats are emerging:
“Natalia said she was beaten in captivity. She says women were beaten despite their age, diseases... klix were beaten for tattoos with Ukrainian symbols. They also beat them mercilessly because they spoke Ukrainian.
- The worst happened in Taganrog (Ukrainian women were imprisoned). They beat the klix, and mocked the prisoners. They tried to break us Two men came and asked me to renounce my POW status and my Ukrainian citizenship.
"I don't want to do that" - I replied. I was beaten for three days. All of my legs were blue. They put me on a stretcher. I could not walk for a month, - the woman recalls the horrors of captivity - When we arrived at Valuyki, the investigator asked how we liked Taganrog. I told him it was a horror there. "In the last 15 years, nothing has changed there," he said. There was nothing good in Russia, and there isn't and will not be.
Natalia's husband Sergey Kuzmenko is still in captivity. Natalia is also very worried about him, because her husband has health problems - heart disease. She's worried he won't die in a foreign land. The woman appeals to everyone to bring her husband home as soon as possible. And not only him but also all the captured Ukrainians.
A disabled person has been abused:
Olga, who lives in the village of Rubizhne in the Kharkiv region, was taken from her home by the Russians in July. Olga has been disabled since childhood, and she speaks badly.
"They thought I gave information about them to someone," the woman says, "but I didn't. I told them the truth, but they didn't believe me. I talk badly and they asked me why I talk so slowly. And they said I should speak normally.
Most Ukrainian women were beaten by women
Olha Lykunova, a maid from the TRO (home guard) unit, is also about to return home. Day 24 In February, Olha went to the military registration and signed up to defend the country. And the 12th one April she was captured.
I stayed here for 6 months and 5 days, - says the defender, - They are just inhumane people. They told us no one needed us. They mocked us and beat us. Most of our women were beaten by their women. They hit them for no reason. They took us out of the cell in the morning and evening to count and beat us.
To enable the women released from captivity to call their families, they were given new mobile phones and SIM cards. That's why they could hear it near the buses: "I've been released, I'm fine".
Nurse Victoria was separated from her 4-year-old daughter
Among those released was a doctor from a military hospital, Victoria Obidina, who was separated from her 4-year-old daughter Alisa by the occupants on the 8. May during the evacuation process. As a result, the girl traveled from Mangush to Zaporizhzhia with strangers. Later Alisa was brought to her grandmother, who was in Poland.
- We only knew at the last minute that we had to exchange, - says the happy woman - We were loaded into the plane. We were transported with our eyes closed and hands tied. Today (17th) October - red. ) we weren't blindfolded but we had hats on and pulled up so we couldn't see the road, hands were tied up
When we were on the road, we discovered that we were driving toward Zaporizhzhia. We were very happy! We didn't believe it until the last minute. Until we crossed the line of contact and got into our buses.
Now Victoria Obidina's biggest dream is to meet her mother, see her daughter and get a job, but now she doesn't know how her new life will be.
To prvo vec probali nije uspjeloIronmen wrote: ↑19/10/2022 20:20 Citam sada da ce Rusi potopiti neka polja u Oblasti Khersona da bi usporili UA, takodjer malo mi je sumnjiva prica oko evakuacije iz Khersona, duz cijele linije odbrane rusi su dobro ukupani i imaju 3 linije odbrane, mozda pokusavaju samo navuci ukrajince na akciju, ovaj novi komadant ruskih snaga Surovikin djeluje mi dota opasnije i mudrije od predhodnika.
Dakle, kontrabatiranje top, m777 top, himars top. Veoma bitne informacije. To je jedan od razloga zasto artiljerija njihova vise nema premoc.
On Thursday, October 20, measures to limit consumption from 7:00 am to 22:00 pm can be applied throughout Ukraine. Where exactly and at what time you can find out on the websites of distribution network operators. Outages will be alternate, and the duration of the queue is also determined by regional power distribution companies, but not more than 4 hours.
Ukrenergo called for ensuring that by 7:00 am the next day, residents had charged phones, power banks, water supplies, flashlights and batteries for them. "The reason for tomorrow's restrictions is the lack of power in the system. We do not exclude that with the onset of cold weather, we will ask for your help more often," the operator adds.
This is their “victory” they are publishing. This map, their own map, shows they don’t even control the Knauf Gips factory anymore
On closer inspection, I believe this map of theirs also depicts that Russia does not fully control Pokrovske.
Their map is much more pessimistic about the Russian advances than my map. They are claiming they control less than half as much ground as I have given them.
"Due to the deteriorating security situation and the recent escalation of hostilities throughout Ukraine, Indian citizens are advised to refrain from traveling to Ukraine. Citizens of India, including students currently in Ukraine, are advised to leave Ukraine by available means as soon as possible," the embassy said in a statement.
Ma itekako da je sumnjivo, pogotovo znajući na šta su rusi sve spremni.Ironmen wrote: ↑19/10/2022 20:20 Citam sada da ce Rusi potopiti neka polja u Oblasti Khersona da bi usporili UA, takodjer malo mi je sumnjiva prica oko evakuacije iz Khersona, duz cijele linije odbrane rusi su dobro ukupani i imaju 3 linije odbrane, mozda pokusavaju samo navuci ukrajince na akciju, ovaj novi komadant ruskih snaga Surovikin djeluje mi dota opasnije i mudrije od predhodnika.
ko ono nedavno napisa da ovi iz ruske ambasade prate šta se piše na forumu?
Ma zna se sve i kod njih, samo zbog diktatorovog ludila niko ne smije reći da je car gol.JoseMujica wrote: ↑19/10/2022 21:34ko ono nedavno napisa da ovi iz ruske ambasade prate šta se piše na forumu?
pa vidite da ne prate, jer da su pratili znali bi šta če im se desiti u Khersonu...o svemu ovome je pisano ovdje, što im je ovaj lik sad ispričao...himarsanje logistike i artiljerije, da če ostati odsječeni itd
u pravu su neki kad kažu da sve ruske knjige treba spaliti.....samo pogledajte kakvi su debilni oficiri iz njih učili da kad mi levati ovdje na forumu vidimo tri koraka ispred njih
Mislim da je nesto novije u pitanju sto se tice poptopa polja.lajkujMe wrote: ↑19/10/2022 20:33To prvo vec probali nije uspjeloIronmen wrote: ↑19/10/2022 20:20 Citam sada da ce Rusi potopiti neka polja u Oblasti Khersona da bi usporili UA, takodjer malo mi je sumnjiva prica oko evakuacije iz Khersona, duz cijele linije odbrane rusi su dobro ukupani i imaju 3 linije odbrane, mozda pokusavaju samo navuci ukrajince na akciju, ovaj novi komadant ruskih snaga Surovikin djeluje mi dota opasnije i mudrije od predhodnika.
Davnih dana nepostoje 3 linije odbrane.
1 i 2 su pale zajedno s Arkanhelske, Dudachy, Velika Oleksandrivka i Davidov Brod.
Sad su na 3 i posljednjoj i najgoroj liniji jer nema prirodnih prepreka niti nekih vecih zaklona.
Pukne li ona a hoce sigurno idu Rusi na casove plivanja