IRAN

[Porodice Foht]

Nije mi jasna kur.cevitost onog predsjednika Libana koji odbacuje, kao ne treba mu pomoc Irana, a oni jedini prakticki mogu zaustaviti cioniste da im razaraju zemlju kad im se cejfne. Mozda ih pritiscu Francuzi, Ameri svakako, da ne vezu zastave s Irancima i slicno, ali meni je malo budalasto odbiti jedinu pomoc koju mogu dobiti a da se ne zovu borci Hizbullaha.

Kako ti nije jasno.

U njih isto kao kod nas.

Liban se posmatra kao islamska zemlja i ovi Maroniti zele, da ona kao drzava bude unistena i postane neki distrikt Zapada i Izraela.
Isto tako Srbi i Hrvati zele unistenje Bosne kao drzave i njeno pretvaranje u obicnu regiju kao dio Srbije ili Hrvatske.

E takvu oni Bosnu/Liban zele.

Ma znam bolan to nego velim da malo odahnu, razorise ih, ubijaju kao zeceve, pola zemlje u muhadzirluku. Meni je nevjerovatno kako oni ista postignu s takvim gubicima i razaranja od Izraela.

[Truba]

ljudi su u ratu od 1975 s malim prekidima

[Moenx]

Od samog starta je to poenta.

Mene zanima kakav ce biti odgovor Irana...

Da li bi mogli naprqviti siže dešavanja u posljednjih sedam dana
Ko koga tuce bijedi kinji i kakav se rat vodi
U euforiji svjwtskog prvenstva sce mi se gadi, kao recimo brojni propusti maltretira ja igraca navijaca sydija novinara u SAD.
I onda znas i da he rat i da ubijaju i ruse a ovamo ti bace loptu na neki stadion i idi je ganjaj dok avioni ruse necija gnijezda

[Peacean]

New details of a 14-point draft Iran–US memorandum:

Immediate and permanent ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon.

US commitment not to interfere in Iran’s internal affairs and to respect Iran’s sovereignty.

Full lifting of the naval blockade within 30 days.

US commitment to withdraw its forces from areas surrounding Iran.

Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days under Iranian arrangements.

Suspension of sanctions on Iranian oil, petrochemicals, and related exports, with full access to the resulting revenues.

US and its allies to provide reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least $300 billion.

A 60-day negotiation period to reach a final agreement on nuclear issues and the complete removal of US primary and secondary sanctions, as well as related UN Security Council and IAEA measures.

Iran reaffirms its NPT commitment not to develop nuclear weapons.

During negotiations, the US will not deploy additional forces to the region or impose new sanctions.

Release of $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets during the 60-day negotiation period, with half made available before talks begin.

Establishment of a monitoring mechanism to oversee implementation of the agreement.

The final agreement will be endorsed by a UN Security Council resolution.

Final negotiations will begin only after the release of half of Iran’s frozen assets, suspension of oil sanctions, and lifting of the naval blockade.

The final deal will focus solely on uranium enrichment, enriched material, sanctions relief, and Iran’s economic reconstruction.

Iran’s missile program and support for resistance groups are excluded from the agenda.

Source: Mehr

300 milijardi za rekonstrukciju Irana, ovo ako prođe republikanci narednih 20 godina neće dobiti izbore.

[Truba]

nema sporazuma s cionistima i amerima to su govna ne drze se dogovora
tih 200 milijardi ce se pretvoriti dajte nam nafte za trilijardu dacemo vam vasih 200 milijardi

[deer_hunter]

New details of a 14-point draft Iran–US memorandum:

Immediate and permanent ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon.

US commitment not to interfere in Iran’s internal affairs and to respect Iran’s sovereignty.

Full lifting of the naval blockade within 30 days.

US commitment to withdraw its forces from areas surrounding Iran.

Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days under Iranian arrangements.

Suspension of sanctions on Iranian oil, petrochemicals, and related exports, with full access to the resulting revenues.

US and its allies to provide reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least $300 billion.

A 60-day negotiation period to reach a final agreement on nuclear issues and the complete removal of US primary and secondary sanctions, as well as related UN Security Council and IAEA measures.

Iran reaffirms its NPT commitment not to develop nuclear weapons.

During negotiations, the US will not deploy additional forces to the region or impose new sanctions.

Release of $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets during the 60-day negotiation period, with half made available before talks begin.

Establishment of a monitoring mechanism to oversee implementation of the agreement.

The final agreement will be endorsed by a UN Security Council resolution.

Final negotiations will begin only after the release of half of Iran’s frozen assets, suspension of oil sanctions, and lifting of the naval blockade.

The final deal will focus solely on uranium enrichment, enriched material, sanctions relief, and Iran’s economic reconstruction.

Iran’s missile program and support for resistance groups are excluded from the agenda.

Source: Mehr

300 milijardi za rekonstrukciju Irana, ovo ako prođe republikanci narednih 20 godina neće dobiti izbore.

Znači ratovali i potrosili milijarde da bi potpisali sve kako Iran želi, svaka cast. Iran dobio i jare i pare. Bas me zanima kako misle kontrolirati iranski nuklearni program. Ajatolah kaze necemo razvijati atomsku bombu, Allaha mi, casna pionirska

[Truba]

zapadnjacka politicka elita ima neku uvrnutu misao

država to sam ja

oni su mislili da će nestankom (ubojstvom) iranskih političara nestati ta država

[Toffee karamela]

kontrola čega? uranija?

ljude koji misle da će se stvari vratiti na početno stanje prije 28.02.2026 hitno poslati na psiho konzilij

nakon ovog i ovakvog rata ne samo što Iran neće više dopustiti ni A da se zucne o njihovim bombama, ovakvim ili onakvim, nego niko sa iole nesprženim mozgom neće ih više ni pitati

MAGA gamad može još samo za američku internu upotrebu cimati tu temu kroz medije

sačekajmo da se sve slegne, ponajprije da vidimo hoće li USA klijentelističke monarhijice obnoviti ugovore o bazama i vojnoj pomoći! tek tada će postati vidljivi rezultati ovog rata.

nikome Iran više neće polagati račune ni za što nego će imati problem da primi u audijenciju sve one koji će na noge u Teheran zbog raznih sporazuma. faliće im diplomatskog kadra za to ili će Aragči i zamjenici mu umrijeti od prekovremenog rada.

[geralt]

Nisam vidio da se postavljalo na temi. Originalni plan Amerike i Izraela je bio da Ahmedinedzad preuzme vlast nakon atentata na Hamneija, ali je poslo po zlu nakon sto je ranjen u bombardovanju koje ga je trebalo osloboditi iz kucnog pritvora.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/19/us/p ... nejad.html

Days after Israeli strikes killed Iran’s supreme leader and other top officials in the opening salvos of the war, President Trump mused publicly that it would be best if “someone from within” Iran took over the country.

It turns out that the United States and Israel went into the conflict with a particular and very surprising someone in mind: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former Iranian president known for his hard-line, anti-Israel and anti-American views.

But the audacious plan, developed by the Israelis and which Mr. Ahmadinejad had been consulted about, quickly went awry, according to the U.S. officials who were briefed on it.

Mr. Ahmadinejad was injured on the war’s first day by an Israeli strike at his home in Tehran that had been designed to free him from house arrest, the American officials and an associate of Mr. Ahmadinejad said. He survived the strike, they said, but after the near miss he became disillusioned with the regime change plan.

He has not been seen publicly since then and his current whereabouts and condition are unknown.

There were also initial reports at the time in the Iranian media that Mr. Ahmadinejad had been killed in the strike on his home.

The strike did not significantly damage Mr. Ahmadinejad’s house at the end of a dead-end street. But the security outpost at the entrance to the street was struck. Satellite imagery shows that building was destroyed.

In the days that followed, official news agencies clarified that he had survived but that his “bodyguards” — in actuality Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps members who were both guarding him and holding him under house arrest — were killed.

An article in The Atlantic in March, citing anonymous associates of Mr. Ahmadinejad, said that the former president had been freed from government confinement after the strike at his house, which the article described as “in effect a jailbreak operation.”

After that article, an associate of Mr. Ahmadinejad confirmed to The New York Times that Mr. Ahmadinejad saw the strike as an attempt to free him. The associate said the Americans viewed Mr. Ahmadinejad as someone who could lead Iran, and had the capability to manage “Iran’s political, social and military situation.”

Mr. Ahmadinejad would have been able to “play a very important role” in Iran in the near future, the associate said, suggesting that the United States saw him as similar to Delcy Rodriguez, who took power in Venezuela after American forces seized Mr. Maduro and has since worked closely with the Trump administration, the person said.

In a 2019 interview with The New York Times, Mr. Ahmadinejad praised President Trump and argued for a rapprochement between Iran and the United States.

“Mr. Trump is a man of action,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said. “He is a businessman and therefore he is capable of calculating cost-benefits and making a decision. We say to him, let’s calculate the long-term cost-benefit of our two nations and not be shortsighted.”

People close to Mr. Ahmadinejad have been accused of having too close ties to the West, or even spying for Israel. Esfandiar Rahim Mashai, Mr. Ahmadinejad’s former chief of staff, was put on trial in 2018 and the judge in the case publicly asked about his links to British and Israeli spy agencies, an accusation publicized by state media.

In the past few years Mr. Ahmadinejad has made trips out of Iran that further fueled speculation.

In 2023, he traveled to Guatemala and in 2024 and 2025 he went to Hungary, trips detailed by New Lines magazine. Both countries have close ties to Israel.

The Hungarian prime minister at the time, Viktor Orban, has a close relationship with Mr. Netanyahu. During the trips to Hungary, Mr. Ahmadinejad spoke at a university connected to Mr. Orban.

He returned from Budapest just days before Israel began attacking Iran last June. When that war broke out, he kept a low public profile and posted only few statements on social media. His relative silence about a war with a country that Mr. Ahmadinejad had long viewed as Iran’s main enemy was noted by many on Iranian social media.

[alijagoro]

Cudi me da plan nije bio da ubiju Ahmeda i Nedzada i postave njegovog dvojnika iz izraela

[alijagoro]

[geralt]

Mirovni planovi iz paralelnih univerzuma, ovo o cemu pricaju Iranci i o cemu pricaju Amerikanci se u putu nije srelo.

[no_sekirli]

Trolanje i Iranaca i Amera, razvlace pamet cijelom svijetu.

[Toffee karamela]

ni sekunde ne vjerujem u te glasine o Ahmedinedžadu, plitka podmetanja čija je namjera da se sukobe iranske vladajuće strukture ne bi li otpočeli čistke unutar svog kadra

tako su prvih dana rata filovali YT vijestima "potvrđenim s najvišeg mjesta" da je zapovjednik snaga Quds Esmail Qaani otkriven kao izraelski špijun, samo se čekalo da neko još povjeruje u to i natakne mu glavu na kolac! srećom Iranci nisu glupi kakvim ih Mosad smatra. Eno Qaanija i dalje na čelu Qudsa, druga je stvar što je po sposobnostima blijeda sjenka prethodnika, rahmetli Qasema Soleimanija i što bi prešutno svi voljeli da je 2020. zaginuo on a ne Soleimani

[Velkoski]

kad će novi 'lovetapovi' da se malo dignu cijene?

[alijagoro]

Dok prodje ufc

[alijagoro]

Ovi kad su uvijek ovako nesto ili slicno rekli,nije bilo dogovora ili se dogovor brzo raspao

[geralt]

ni sekunde ne vjerujem u te glasine o Ahmedinedžadu, plitka podmetanja čija je namjera da se sukobe iranske vladajuće strukture ne bi li otpočeli čistke unutar svog kadra

tako su prvih dana rata filovali YT vijestima "potvrđenim s najvišeg mjesta" da je zapovjednik snaga Quds Esmail Qaani otkriven kao izraelski špijun, samo se čekalo da neko još povjeruje u to i natakne mu glavu na kolac! srećom Iranci nisu glupi kakvim ih Mosad smatra. Eno Qaanija i dalje na čelu Qudsa, druga je stvar što je po sposobnostima blijeda sjenka prethodnika, rahmetli Qasema Soleimanija i što bi prešutno svi voljeli da je 2020. zaginuo on a ne Soleimani

Ne znam, ali puno stvari je tu cudno. Npr. zasto je isao dvije godine zaredom u Orbanovu Madjarsku (navodno da drzi govor na konferenciji na univerzitetu, ali niko na tom univerzitetu nije prisustovao tom govoru niti ga vidio, niti je konferencija igdje objavljena), kako je dobio Schengen vizu od Madjarske, zasto je u Madjarskoj imao specijalnu sigurnosnu zastitu od lokalnih agencija, zasto je bio u kucnom pritvoru nakon decembarsko-januarskih demonstracija, zasto su dva covjeka iz njegovog kruga (Rostami i Golpour) 2017. osudjeni za spijuniranje za Izrael pa zatim pusteni.

https://newlinesmag.com/spotlight/where ... madinejad/

“The Ministry of Foreign Affairs decided that any official documentation about Ahmadinejad’s visit will remain secret for decades, so no official information can be obtained in the foreseeable future,” she told New Lines. Still, “there are some videos that show that he received a state reception with a certain level of protection at the airport upon his arrival.”

Kinga Göncz, the former foreign minister of Hungary between 2006 and 2009, told me Ahmadinejad’s visit was something beyond a campus presentation: “The cover story of his visit was a university lecture. He didn’t meet any Hungarian politicians in Budapest, but had a meeting until early morning with someone.”

“Based on the guesses, Budapest just gave a venue for a secret meeting on an Israeli-Iranian issue, with the approval of the Israeli government, although the Israeli Embassy officially firmly disapproved of his invitation,” said Göncz, who also served as a member of the European Parliament before stepping down in 2014.

Hungary wasn’t Ahmadinejad’s only unlikely destination. In 2023, he had gone on a similarly low-profile trip to Guatemala to speak at a summit about the environment and the conservation of the Motagua River ( ). Again, the topic was unrelated to his work, and the Spanish-speaking media paid no attention, despite the counterintuitiveness of a stubborn detractor of Israel visiting one of Central America’s most pro-Israel states. Guatemala was the second country to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem after the U.S. did so in 2017 under the first Donald Trump administration.

Guatemala’s then-Minister of Environment Gerson Barrios Garrido had invited Ahmadinejad in a letter that addressed him as the “former president of the Republic of Iran.” Ahead of his departure, authorities at Tehran’s Imam Khomeini International Airport confiscated his passport and denied him and his entourage boarding, citing security concerns. He persisted, staged a sit-in, and became a spectacle when the transiting passengers stopped by to take selfies with the former president.

After almost seven hours, he was permitted to depart. He was on the plane on Oct. 7, when Hamas militants attacked Israel, killing an estimated 1,200 Israelis. On May 6, 2024, the day Israel began the Rafah offensive, he visited Hungary for the first time, heading to the Ludovika University for an unadvertised speech about “common values in a shared global environment.” Nine days after his flight home, former President Ebrahim Raisi died in a helicopter crash. It’s unclear why Ahmadinejad undertook these trips, and the uncanny coincidences of his travel dates with major Israeli offensives do not prove anything. But it raises questions about how Israel’s primary antagonist in Iran handled himself in the wake of outright conflict with his archnemesis.

[Quaresma]

Ovi kad su uvijek ovako nesto ili slicno rekli,nije bilo dogovora ili se dogovor brzo raspao

najdalje do nedjelje im dajem fore kad ce opet Trump reci kako ce napasti zestoko Iran.

[Truba]

Ovi kad su uvijek ovako nesto ili slicno rekli,nije bilo dogovora ili se dogovor brzo raspao

Ovi su sa sjevera izraela?

[alijagoro]

Ovi kad su uvijek ovako nesto ili slicno rekli,nije bilo dogovora ili se dogovor brzo raspao

Ovi su sa sjevera izraela?

Mislim da su neke izraelske novine

[Truba]

Nikom ja ne vjerujem vise pogotovo ne njima

[alijagoro]

Ako je istina,onda ameri preko emirata vracaju iranske pare

[Truba]

čini se da pakistanci kažu da je dogovor skoro postignut