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Poll ended at 05/11/2024 17:32

Demokratska stranka:Kamala Harris
116
57%
Republikanska stranka:Donald Trump
59
29%
Zelena stranka:Jill Stein
21
10%
Libertarijanska stranka:Chase Oliver
9
4%
 
Total votes: 205

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Jesu li definisali sta je zena? :mrgreen:
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ultima_palabra wrote: 15/08/2024 17:31 Jesu li definisali sta je zena? :mrgreen:
To je bar lako. Nekima...
:mrgreen:
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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:28
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:18
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 16:55
Pa da, jer vjerojatno druga najvažnija vijest od prije mjesec dana i perioda RNC Conventiona, pored imenovanja JD Vancea potpredsjedničkim kadidatiom, da je GOP nakon dekada i dekada officially soften abortion stance u svojoj platformi. To jest, da preuzimaju od Trumpa stance i zalažu se da states trebaju odlučivati, a dropaju federally nationwide abortion ban.
Al' eto očito te je ta vijest mašila.
I to je platforma? :lol:
A prije su se zalagali zvanicno za federally nationwide abortion ban? To je pisalo o njihovoj platformi?

Zasto se pretvarati - ta "stranka" postoji samo kao kult podrske vrhovnom vodji. Da on kaze hajmo se sutra svi spaliti, oni bi to podrzali. Ne postoji republikanska platforma. Postoji samo gomila gluposti koja se mijenja iz dana u dan.
Ne treba sada moving the goalposts...
Napisao si da nemaju zvanični program. Što mi je bilo čudno za pročitati i objasnio sam ti kasnije zašto jer sam pročitao o promjeni oko abortusa.
Očigledno je da su se zalagali za federally nationwide abortion ban, a sada više ne. I kad podvučeš liniju imaju platformu i program.
Thing is....there are no goalposts što se Trumpa i GOP-a tiče. :mrgreen:
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geralt wrote: 15/08/2024 15:45
Kako bi ti nazvao nekoga ko je pokusao ponistiti rezultate izbora koje je izgubio, i ko je poslao rulju da upadne u kongres i objesi njegovog podpredsjednika koji je odbio da ucestvuje u drzavnom udaru?
Ma ja vjerujem, gledajući videa šta se dešavalo taj dan, da je to sve poprilično preuveličano, pogotovo poredeći nasilje i destrukciju koju je BLM pokret radio ranije te izborne godine i za koju je rijetko ko odgovarao. Trump je pozvao na mirne proteste, nudio nacionalnu gardu, Pelosi odbila, sve mi to izgleda kao namještaljka. Pa i ove zatvorske kazne što nenaoružani građani dobiše, po 10-20 godina, za učešće, više liči na politički progon autoritarnih režima nego na slobodarsku naciju koja se diči slobodom izražavanja.

Izbori 2020, sa onolikim kašnjenjem u brojanju i objavljivanju rezultata u nekim državama su, u najmanju ruku bili sumnjivi i svi Amerikanci su trebali zahtjevati nezavisnu istragu koja bi objasnila šta se dešavalo. Ovako, ostaje gorak okus i veliki pad povjerenja u izborni proces i demokratiju u SAD-u. U BiH znamo pobjednika u ponoć.

Evo u linku neki lik kompilirao video od 10 minuta gdje demokrate osporavaju rezultate izbora 2016, nazivaju Trumpa nezakonitim predsjednikom i šta sve ne. I nikom ništa. A Trumpu su za istu stvar napakovali tužbu.

https://x.com/JakeThirteenth/status/1781762142544241016
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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:28
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:18
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 16:55
Pa da, jer vjerojatno druga najvažnija vijest od prije mjesec dana i perioda RNC Conventiona, pored imenovanja JD Vancea potpredsjedničkim kadidatiom, da je GOP nakon dekada i dekada officially soften abortion stance u svojoj platformi. To jest, da preuzimaju od Trumpa stance i zalažu se da states trebaju odlučivati, a dropaju federally nationwide abortion ban.
Al' eto očito te je ta vijest mašila.
I to je platforma? :lol:
A prije su se zalagali zvanicno za federally nationwide abortion ban? To je pisalo o njihovoj platformi?

Zasto se pretvarati - ta "stranka" postoji samo kao kult podrske vrhovnom vodji. Da on kaze hajmo se sutra svi spaliti, oni bi to podrzali. Ne postoji republikanska platforma. Postoji samo gomila gluposti koja se mijenja iz dana u dan.
Ne treba sada moving the goalposts...
Napisao si da nemaju zvanični program. Što mi je bilo čudno za pročitati i objasnio sam ti kasnije zašto jer sam pročitao o promjeni oko abortusa.
Očigledno je da su se zalagali za federally nationwide abortion ban, a sada više ne. I kad podvučeš liniju imaju platformu i program.
Kakve goalposts? Pitao si me pitanje, ja ti dao link za to sto sam napisao. Ti nisi dao nista cim potkrepljujes to sto pises.
Ne. Nije ocigledno. Cak sta vise ja za to prvi put cujem - da se zvanicno zalazu za nationwide abortion ban. Evo da ti pomognem da bude jasnije - to jednostavno nije tacno - abortion ban na federalnom nivou nikad nije bio dio zvanicne platforme RNC. (Mozda jeste nekad tamo prije 50 godina).
U svakom slucaju to nije platforma, to moze biti samo jedna od tacki.
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biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 18:00
geralt wrote: 15/08/2024 15:45
Kako bi ti nazvao nekoga ko je pokusao ponistiti rezultate izbora koje je izgubio, i ko je poslao rulju da upadne u kongres i objesi njegovog podpredsjednika koji je odbio da ucestvuje u drzavnom udaru?
Ma ja vjerujem, gledajući videa šta se dešavalo taj dan, da je to sve poprilično preuveličano, pogotovo poredeći nasilje i destrukciju koju je BLM pokret radio ranije te izborne godine i za koju je rijetko ko odgovarao. Trump je pozvao na mirne proteste, nudio nacionalnu gardu, Pelosi odbila, sve mi to izgleda kao namještaljka. Pa i ove zatvorske kazne što nenaoružani građani dobiše, po 10-20 godina, za učešće, više liči na politički progon autoritarnih režima nego na slobodarsku naciju koja se diči slobodom izražavanja.

Izbori 2020, sa onolikim kašnjenjem u brojanju i objavljivanju rezultata u nekim državama su, u najmanju ruku bili sumnjivi i svi Amerikanci su trebali zahtjevati nezavisnu istragu koja bi objasnila šta se dešavalo. Ovako, ostaje gorak okus i veliki pad povjerenja u izborni proces i demokratiju u SAD-u. U BiH znamo pobjednika u ponoć.

Evo u linku neki lik kompilirao video od 10 minuta gdje demokrate osporavaju rezultate izbora 2016, nazivaju Trumpa nezakonitim predsjednikom i šta sve ne. I nikom ništa. A Trumpu su za istu stvar napakovali tužbu.

https://x.com/JakeThirteenth/status/1781762142544241016
Trumpu su napakovali tuzbu za nasilan pokusaj rusenja vlasti.
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jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:01
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:28
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:18

I to je platforma? :lol:
A prije su se zalagali zvanicno za federally nationwide abortion ban? To je pisalo o njihovoj platformi?

Zasto se pretvarati - ta "stranka" postoji samo kao kult podrske vrhovnom vodji. Da on kaze hajmo se sutra svi spaliti, oni bi to podrzali. Ne postoji republikanska platforma. Postoji samo gomila gluposti koja se mijenja iz dana u dan.
Ne treba sada moving the goalposts...
Napisao si da nemaju zvanični program. Što mi je bilo čudno za pročitati i objasnio sam ti kasnije zašto jer sam pročitao o promjeni oko abortusa.
Očigledno je da su se zalagali za federally nationwide abortion ban, a sada više ne. I kad podvučeš liniju imaju platformu i program.
Kakve goalposts? Pitao si me pitanje, ja ti dao link za to sto sam napisao. Ti nisi dao nista cim potkrepljujes to sto pises.
Ne. Nije ocigledno. Cak sta vise ja za to prvi put cujem - da se zvanicno zalazu za nationwide abortion ban. Evo da ti pomognem da bude jasnije - to jednostavno nije tacno - abortion ban na federalnom nivou nikad nije bio dio zvanicne platforme RNC. (Mozda jeste nekad tamo prije 50 godina).
U svakom slucaju to nije platforma, to moze biti samo jedna od tacki.
Hajde dobro...
Kad ti tako kažeš. :mrgreen:
A mislio sam da ćeš se malo i sam potruditi. Da ti ne moram sve servirati na pladnju. Hehe


Republicans omit national abortion ban from platform for first time in 40 years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... form-trump
The Republican party has omitted a national abortion ban from its official party platform for the first time in 40 years, opting instead to focus on the power of states to regulate abortion in a move that reflects Donald Trump’s preferred position.

Hoćeš li nastaviti da "disprovaš"? 💀
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ultima_palabra wrote: 15/08/2024 16:51
biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 12:52
ultima_palabra wrote: 14/08/2024 20:08

Bolje je pitanje sta bi republikanci bez Trumpa? Mozda bi nekad i dobili poneke izbore?
Ma ne znam, isti k. i jedni i drugi. Trump showman pa odskaće, ali ni on ne bi nešto plaho promijenio. Predsjednici predstava za narod, politiku vodi oligarhija. Onaj Thomas Massie iz Kongresa mi se sviđa.
Naravno da ti se svidja :) Pretpostavljam i Rand Paul da ti je dobar?
Ma Kamala je najbolja. Ubjedljivo najjači kandidat kojeg demokrate mogu ponuditi. Go Kamala:
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biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 18:14
ultima_palabra wrote: 15/08/2024 16:51
biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 12:52

Ma ne znam, isti k. i jedni i drugi. Trump showman pa odskaće, ali ni on ne bi nešto plaho promijenio. Predsjednici predstava za narod, politiku vodi oligarhija. Onaj Thomas Massie iz Kongresa mi se sviđa.
Naravno da ti se svidja :) Pretpostavljam i Rand Paul da ti je dobar?
Ma Kamala je najbolja. Ubjedljivo najjači kandidat kojeg demokrate mogu ponuditi. Go Kamala:

Tomorrow will be today tomorrow, so live today, and yesterday will be yesterday today, as it is tomorrow, today is today! :lol:

https://x.com/HeraldPostMail/status/1802616114469552515
Lol. Bez zajebancije je li real ovo ili deep fake?
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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:10
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:01
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 17:28
Ne treba sada moving the goalposts...
Napisao si da nemaju zvanični program. Što mi je bilo čudno za pročitati i objasnio sam ti kasnije zašto jer sam pročitao o promjeni oko abortusa.
Očigledno je da su se zalagali za federally nationwide abortion ban, a sada više ne. I kad podvučeš liniju imaju platformu i program.
Kakve goalposts? Pitao si me pitanje, ja ti dao link za to sto sam napisao. Ti nisi dao nista cim potkrepljujes to sto pises.
Ne. Nije ocigledno. Cak sta vise ja za to prvi put cujem - da se zvanicno zalazu za nationwide abortion ban. Evo da ti pomognem da bude jasnije - to jednostavno nije tacno - abortion ban na federalnom nivou nikad nije bio dio zvanicne platforme RNC. (Mozda jeste nekad tamo prije 50 godina).
U svakom slucaju to nije platforma, to moze biti samo jedna od tacki.
Hajde dobro...
Kad ti tako kažeš. :mrgreen:
A mislio sam da ćeš se malo i sam potruditi. Da ti ne moram sve servirati na pladnju. Hehe


Republicans omit national abortion ban from platform for first time in 40 years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... form-trump
The Republican party has omitted a national abortion ban from its official party platform for the first time in 40 years, opting instead to focus on the power of states to regulate abortion in a move that reflects Donald Trump’s preferred position.

Hoćeš li nastaviti da "disprovaš"? 💀
Hocu, jer ovo u naslovu nije tacno.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/d ... 872234.pdf

Evo ti RNC platforma iz 2016-e. Posljednja prava platforma, radjena prije nego je Trump pobijedio.

De mi reci gdje se spominje national abortion ban?
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U al ga dude podudla

Jel ovo za trajni ili

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-vi ... 4w4eAn-c1K
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ne bi forumski magatori lijepili lažne i posebno izrezane klipove

fejk njuz :mrgreen:
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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:18
biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 18:14
Ma Kamala je najbolja. Ubjedljivo najjači kandidat kojeg demokrate mogu ponuditi. Go Kamala:

Tomorrow will be today tomorrow, so live today, and yesterday will be yesterday today, as it is tomorrow, today is today! :lol:

https://x.com/HeraldPostMail/status/1802616114469552515
Lol. Bez zajebancije je li real ovo ili deep fake?
Pa kako nema Community Notes, vjerujem da je real. Čitao sam da voli popiti, pretpostavljam da je bila pijana. Al evo, kažu da je fake. Sam prosudi.
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Ako se bude drzalo pravila onda je ovo za trajnu bananu - sirenje laznih vijesti :izet:
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jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:30
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:10
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:01

Kakve goalposts? Pitao si me pitanje, ja ti dao link za to sto sam napisao. Ti nisi dao nista cim potkrepljujes to sto pises.
Ne. Nije ocigledno. Cak sta vise ja za to prvi put cujem - da se zvanicno zalazu za nationwide abortion ban. Evo da ti pomognem da bude jasnije - to jednostavno nije tacno - abortion ban na federalnom nivou nikad nije bio dio zvanicne platforme RNC. (Mozda jeste nekad tamo prije 50 godina).
U svakom slucaju to nije platforma, to moze biti samo jedna od tacki.
Hajde dobro...
Kad ti tako kažeš. :mrgreen:
A mislio sam da ćeš se malo i sam potruditi. Da ti ne moram sve servirati na pladnju. Hehe


Republicans omit national abortion ban from platform for first time in 40 years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... form-trump
The Republican party has omitted a national abortion ban from its official party platform for the first time in 40 years, opting instead to focus on the power of states to regulate abortion in a move that reflects Donald Trump’s preferred position.

Hoćeš li nastaviti da "disprovaš"? 💀
Hocu, jer ovo u naslovu nije tacno.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/d ... 872234.pdf

Evo ti RNC platforma iz 2016-e. Posljednja prava platforma, radjena prije nego je Trump pobijedio.

De mi reci gdje se spominje national abortion ban?
Hoces reci The Guardian fejk njuza i dezinformise raju? :D
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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:43
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:30
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:10
Hajde dobro...
Kad ti tako kažeš. :mrgreen:
A mislio sam da ćeš se malo i sam potruditi. Da ti ne moram sve servirati na pladnju. Hehe


Republicans omit national abortion ban from platform for first time in 40 years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... form-trump
The Republican party has omitted a national abortion ban from its official party platform for the first time in 40 years, opting instead to focus on the power of states to regulate abortion in a move that reflects Donald Trump’s preferred position.

Hoćeš li nastaviti da "disprovaš"? 💀
Hocu, jer ovo u naslovu nije tacno.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/d ... 872234.pdf

Evo ti RNC platforma iz 2016-e. Posljednja prava platforma, radjena prije nego je Trump pobijedio.

De mi reci gdje se spominje national abortion ban?
Hoces reci The Guardian fejk njuza i dezinformise raju? :D
Hocu reci da je devil in the details.

Nakon sto je Vrhovni sud ukinuo federalno pravo na abortus prije 2 godine, stvari su se sustinski promjenile.

Ako ti tvrdis da su se zvanicno zalagali za "national abortion ban" onda bi valjda to trebalo stajati u njihvoj platformi tim rijecima.
Stoje neke druge stvari o abortusu, a interpretacija istih bi mogla ici do sutra.

I sta je uopste "national abortion ban"? Nema nikakvog abortusa ni u kom slucaju, od dana zaceca? Nema abortusa od odredjene sedmice? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju incesta ili silovanja? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju nekog smrtonosnog defekta?

Da se vratimo na ono sto sam prvobitno rekao, a odnosilo se na zvanicni program. Ok, govorio sam o 2020-oj jer se sjecam te vijesti i o njoj su trubili danima (da nisu stavili novu zvanicnu platformu, sto je obicaj da se radi pred svaku konvenciju).
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Pa ovaj GOP-ova "platforma" je smijurija. Prvo što je za razliku od prethodne smanjena sa 66 na samo 16 stranica, a druga stvar je što
je "platforma" suštinski samo Trumpovi standardni talking pointsi. :lol: :mrgreen:

Sadrži 20 tačaka (u all caps formatu :lol: ):
1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY
14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS
18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/08/nx-s1-50 ... tform-2024

Naravno detalji kako će sve ovo tačno napraviti su...nedetaljni. :mrgreen:
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jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:53
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:43
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:30

Hocu, jer ovo u naslovu nije tacno.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/d ... 872234.pdf

Evo ti RNC platforma iz 2016-e. Posljednja prava platforma, radjena prije nego je Trump pobijedio.

De mi reci gdje se spominje national abortion ban?
Hoces reci The Guardian fejk njuza i dezinformise raju? :D
Hocu reci da je devil in the details.

Nakon sto je Vrhovni sud ukinuo federalno pravo na abortus prije 2 godine, stvari su se sustinski promjenile.

Ako ti tvrdis da su se zvanicno zalagali za "national abortion ban" onda bi valjda to trebalo stajati u njihvoj platformi tim rijecima.
Stoje neke druge stvari o abortusu, a interpretacija istih bi mogla ici do sutra.

I sta je uopste "national abortion ban"? Nema nikakvog abortusa ni u kom slucaju, od dana zaceca? Nema abortusa od odredjene sedmice? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju incesta ili silovanja? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju nekog smrtonosnog defekta?

Da se vratimo na ono sto sam prvobitno rekao, a odnosilo se na zvanicni program. Ok, govorio sam o 2020-oj jer se sjecam te vijesti i o njoj su trubili danima (da nisu stavili novu zvanicnu platformu, sto je obicaj da se radi pred svaku konvenciju).
The Fifth Amendment: Protecting Human Life

The Constitution's guarantee that no one can "be deprived of life, liberty or property" deliberately echoes the Declaration of Independence's proclamation that "all" are "endowed by their Creator" with the inalienable right to life. Accordingly, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to children before birth.

Eto ti iz 2016.. Pa ti protumaci sta znaci "human life amendment" kako zelis. Meni je jasno sta znaci, a ocitio i The Guardianu, kao i NBC-ju, POLITICU, AP-ju i tako dalje.

Trump pushes new GOP platform softening party’s positions on abortion and same-sex marriage
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna160730
At the urging of former President Donald Trump and his allies, the Republican Party is set to abandon a decadeslong push for a federal abortion ban and soften its stance on same-sex marriage in its platform, according to changes made in a draft policy platform passed Monday morning ahead of next week’s Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

RNC committee approves dropping national limits on abortion from party platform
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/0 ... s-00166788
MILWAUKEE — The Republican Party is abandoning its position explicitly advocating for federal abortion limits in favor of former President Donald Trump’s leave-it-to-the-states approach, under language adopted at a party platform committee meeting Monday.

Republicans move at Trump’s behest to change how they will oppose abortion
https://apnews.com/article/republicans- ... ca666d8bc5
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Republican National Committee moved Monday to adopt a party platform that reflects former President Donald Trump’s position opposing a federal abortion ban and ceding limits to states, omitting the explicit basis for a national ban for the first time in 40 years.
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#369 Re: 2024 US elections

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Čim sam pročitao end inflation, znam da onaj koji je to pravio pojma nema o životu
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#370 Re: 2024 US elections

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biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 18:34
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:18
biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 18:14
Ma Kamala je najbolja. Ubjedljivo najjači kandidat kojeg demokrate mogu ponuditi. Go Kamala:

Tomorrow will be today tomorrow, so live today, and yesterday will be yesterday today, as it is tomorrow, today is today! :lol:

https://x.com/HeraldPostMail/status/1802616114469552515
Lol. Bez zajebancije je li real ovo ili deep fake?
Pa kako nema Community Notes, vjerujem da je real. Čitao sam da voli popiti, pretpostavljam da je bila pijana. Al evo, kažu da je fake. Sam prosudi.
Haha, stara Fox News taktika… “I am just it putting it out there, I am asking questions, it’s up to you to draw the conclusions…” :lol:
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#371 Re: 2024 US elections

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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 19:03
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:53
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:43

Hoces reci The Guardian fejk njuza i dezinformise raju? :D
Hocu reci da je devil in the details.

Nakon sto je Vrhovni sud ukinuo federalno pravo na abortus prije 2 godine, stvari su se sustinski promjenile.

Ako ti tvrdis da su se zvanicno zalagali za "national abortion ban" onda bi valjda to trebalo stajati u njihvoj platformi tim rijecima.
Stoje neke druge stvari o abortusu, a interpretacija istih bi mogla ici do sutra.

I sta je uopste "national abortion ban"? Nema nikakvog abortusa ni u kom slucaju, od dana zaceca? Nema abortusa od odredjene sedmice? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju incesta ili silovanja? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju nekog smrtonosnog defekta?

Da se vratimo na ono sto sam prvobitno rekao, a odnosilo se na zvanicni program. Ok, govorio sam o 2020-oj jer se sjecam te vijesti i o njoj su trubili danima (da nisu stavili novu zvanicnu platformu, sto je obicaj da se radi pred svaku konvenciju).
The Fifth Amendment: Protecting Human Life

The Constitution's guarantee that no one can "be deprived of life, liberty or property" deliberately echoes the Declaration of Independence's proclamation that "all" are "endowed by their Creator" with the inalienable right to life. Accordingly, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to children before birth.

Eto ti iz 2016.. Pa ti protumaci sta znaci "human life amendment" kako zelis. Meni je jasno sta znaci, a ocitio i The Guardianu, kao i NBC-ju, POLITICU, AP-ju i tako dalje.

Trump pushes new GOP platform softening party’s positions on abortion and same-sex marriage
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna160730
At the urging of former President Donald Trump and his allies, the Republican Party is set to abandon a decadeslong push for a federal abortion ban and soften its stance on same-sex marriage in its platform, according to changes made in a draft policy platform passed Monday morning ahead of next week’s Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

RNC committee approves dropping national limits on abortion from party platform
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/0 ... s-00166788
MILWAUKEE — The Republican Party is abandoning its position explicitly advocating for federal abortion limits in favor of former President Donald Trump’s leave-it-to-the-states approach, under language adopted at a party platform committee meeting Monday.

Republicans move at Trump’s behest to change how they will oppose abortion
https://apnews.com/article/republicans- ... ca666d8bc5
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Republican National Committee moved Monday to adopt a party platform that reflects former President Donald Trump’s position opposing a federal abortion ban and ceding limits to states, omitting the explicit basis for a national ban for the first time in 40 years.
Kao sto vidis i sam, nigdje se eksplicitno ne navodi “federal abortion ban” ili “national abortion ban” u toj platformi.
Posto ti znas tacno sta to znaci mozes li ti ovdje onda to napisati
Zastita 14-im amandmanom znaci sta tacno?
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#372 Re: 2024 US elections

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video wrote: 15/08/2024 18:38 Ako se bude drzalo pravila onda je ovo za trajnu bananu - sirenje laznih vijesti :izet:
Pozivi na cenzuru i cancelovanje neistomišljenika pristaju diktatorskim režimima. Sad vidim kako je Trumpu. Jadan čovjek. Ako je fake, brišemo i ćao, barem je smiješno. :D
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#373 Re: 2024 US elections

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biglebovski wrote: 15/08/2024 19:17
video wrote: 15/08/2024 18:38 Ako se bude drzalo pravila onda je ovo za trajnu bananu - sirenje laznih vijesti :izet:
Pozivi na cenzuru i cancelovanje neistomišljenika pristaju diktatorskim režimima. Sad vidim kako je Trumpu. Jadan čovjek. Ako je fake, brišemo i ćao, barem je smiješno. :D
Jeste fejk, dokazano ti je. Jesi li izbrisao?
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#374 Re: 2024 US elections

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jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 19:16
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 19:03
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 18:53

Hocu reci da je devil in the details.

Nakon sto je Vrhovni sud ukinuo federalno pravo na abortus prije 2 godine, stvari su se sustinski promjenile.

Ako ti tvrdis da su se zvanicno zalagali za "national abortion ban" onda bi valjda to trebalo stajati u njihvoj platformi tim rijecima.
Stoje neke druge stvari o abortusu, a interpretacija istih bi mogla ici do sutra.

I sta je uopste "national abortion ban"? Nema nikakvog abortusa ni u kom slucaju, od dana zaceca? Nema abortusa od odredjene sedmice? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju incesta ili silovanja? Nema abortusa osim u slucaju nekog smrtonosnog defekta?

Da se vratimo na ono sto sam prvobitno rekao, a odnosilo se na zvanicni program. Ok, govorio sam o 2020-oj jer se sjecam te vijesti i o njoj su trubili danima (da nisu stavili novu zvanicnu platformu, sto je obicaj da se radi pred svaku konvenciju).
The Fifth Amendment: Protecting Human Life

The Constitution's guarantee that no one can "be deprived of life, liberty or property" deliberately echoes the Declaration of Independence's proclamation that "all" are "endowed by their Creator" with the inalienable right to life. Accordingly, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to children before birth.

Eto ti iz 2016.. Pa ti protumaci sta znaci "human life amendment" kako zelis. Meni je jasno sta znaci, a ocitio i The Guardianu, kao i NBC-ju, POLITICU, AP-ju i tako dalje.

Trump pushes new GOP platform softening party’s positions on abortion and same-sex marriage
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna160730
At the urging of former President Donald Trump and his allies, the Republican Party is set to abandon a decadeslong push for a federal abortion ban and soften its stance on same-sex marriage in its platform, according to changes made in a draft policy platform passed Monday morning ahead of next week’s Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

RNC committee approves dropping national limits on abortion from party platform
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/0 ... s-00166788
MILWAUKEE — The Republican Party is abandoning its position explicitly advocating for federal abortion limits in favor of former President Donald Trump’s leave-it-to-the-states approach, under language adopted at a party platform committee meeting Monday.

Republicans move at Trump’s behest to change how they will oppose abortion
https://apnews.com/article/republicans- ... ca666d8bc5
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Republican National Committee moved Monday to adopt a party platform that reflects former President Donald Trump’s position opposing a federal abortion ban and ceding limits to states, omitting the explicit basis for a national ban for the first time in 40 years.
Kao sto vidis i sam, nigdje se eksplicitno ne navodi “federal abortion ban” ili “national abortion ban” u toj platformi.
Posto ti znas tacno sta to znaci mozes li ti ovdje onda to napisati
Zastita 14-im amandmanom znaci sta tacno?
Divi ježa što vadi iz rukava staru Fox News taktiku kao što bi ultima rekao. :lol:
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#375 Re: 2024 US elections

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konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 19:24
jeza u ledja wrote: 15/08/2024 19:16
konoplja wrote: 15/08/2024 19:03
The Fifth Amendment: Protecting Human Life

The Constitution's guarantee that no one can "be deprived of life, liberty or property" deliberately echoes the Declaration of Independence's proclamation that "all" are "endowed by their Creator" with the inalienable right to life. Accordingly, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to children before birth.

Eto ti iz 2016.. Pa ti protumaci sta znaci "human life amendment" kako zelis. Meni je jasno sta znaci, a ocitio i The Guardianu, kao i NBC-ju, POLITICU, AP-ju i tako dalje.

Trump pushes new GOP platform softening party’s positions on abortion and same-sex marriage
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna160730
At the urging of former President Donald Trump and his allies, the Republican Party is set to abandon a decadeslong push for a federal abortion ban and soften its stance on same-sex marriage in its platform, according to changes made in a draft policy platform passed Monday morning ahead of next week’s Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

RNC committee approves dropping national limits on abortion from party platform
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/0 ... s-00166788
MILWAUKEE — The Republican Party is abandoning its position explicitly advocating for federal abortion limits in favor of former President Donald Trump’s leave-it-to-the-states approach, under language adopted at a party platform committee meeting Monday.

Republicans move at Trump’s behest to change how they will oppose abortion
https://apnews.com/article/republicans- ... ca666d8bc5
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Republican National Committee moved Monday to adopt a party platform that reflects former President Donald Trump’s position opposing a federal abortion ban and ceding limits to states, omitting the explicit basis for a national ban for the first time in 40 years.
Kao sto vidis i sam, nigdje se eksplicitno ne navodi “federal abortion ban” ili “national abortion ban” u toj platformi.
Posto ti znas tacno sta to znaci mozes li ti ovdje onda to napisati
Zastita 14-im amandmanom znaci sta tacno?
Divi ježa što vadi iz rukava staru Fox News taktiku kao što bi ultima rekao. :lol:
Dobro ti je čovjek rekao termini “federal abortion ban” i “national abortion ban” se ne nalaze u novoj GOP platformi. Riječ abortion
se spominje samo jednom u dokumentu rečenicom "we will oppose late term abortion".
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