Liverpool FC

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

Malo je nakaradno napisano, u tekstu stoji malo drugačije. Navodno je u razgovorima izdvojio Darwina kao nekoga za koga smatra da ga može još dosta unaprijediti, odnosno da želi bazirati igru na njemu.

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

[ismar2215]

Generalno karakterno gledano, Slot mi izgleda kao veci fit.

[no_sekirli]

Dobrodosao Arne

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

[Pandakonda]

Također za improvanje su navedeni Konate i Szoboszlai koje su radi losije forme tokom sezone zamijenili Quansah i Elliot

Malo ovo glupo zvuci... Cuj jedan od zadataka je da unaprijedi Nuneza. Pa valjda je zadatak trenera da svakog igraca pokusa boljim uciniti.
Ovako izdvojit jednog igraca je smijesno.

Također su se spominjali Konate i Szoboszlai, ali vjerujem da je na Darwinu veći pritisak jer je placen jako puno i jos nije dosegao zavidan nivo.

Zar nije bas prije par dana izasla nova vijest kako je Sporting odjednom pri kraju pregovora povecao njegovu cijenu sa 10 na 20 miliona i zbog toga je klub odustao ? Onda se desio onaj famozni odlazak u West Ham jer LFC nije pristao na dupliranje cijene pa se na kraju ni sa WH nije moglo dogovorit

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

To je prenio onaj klaun Falk.

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

A odlazak u London je bio u njegovom privatnom aranžmanu, lik se provalio žestoko. Niti je razgovarao sa West Hamom, niti sa Chelseam kojeg mu je agent ubacio u priču.

[BHF_Manijak]

A odlazak u London je bio u njegovom privatnom aranžmanu, lik se provalio žestoko. Niti je razgovarao sa West Hamom, niti sa Chelseam kojeg mu je agent ubacio u priču.

Pa sto je isao?

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

A odlazak u London je bio u njegovom privatnom aranžmanu, lik se provalio žestoko. Niti je razgovarao sa West Hamom, niti sa Chelseam kojeg mu je agent ubacio u priču.

Pa sto je isao?

Ne zna niko, da valjda naloži naše kako je tražena roba.

[Pandakonda]

The Athletic je objavio dobar i opširan clanak o procesu kako su Hughes i Edwards dosli do Slota. Evo nekih zanimljivih dijelova:

The criteria were clear. Liverpool wanted a coach with a distinct identity in terms of his brand of football: dynamic, high energy and possession-based. Being prepared to take the title of head coach, rather than manager, was important. But while the successful candidate needed to have proved himself as a hands-on training ground operator, he also needed to harness the power of Liverpool’s fanbase in the tradition of the club’s most successful managers.

A good record of keeping players fit and available was considered vital, as was a history of improving players. The focus was on making the right choice — not necessarily the most popular one — and Hughes and Edwards were prepared to be courageous in their decision-making.

When Liverpool appointed Klopp in succession to Brendan Rodgers in October 2015, FSG put great trust in the data that was presented to them by Edwards, who had recently been appointed technical director, and theoretical physicist Ian Graham.
At that time, much of it was highlighting the excellence of Borussia Dortmund’s record under Klopp and how, even though results had dipped significantly in his final season in charge, the relatively new phenomenon of expected goals (xG) illustrated they had endured a somewhat freakish run of bad luck that should not deter them appointing him – a sound recommendation, it turned out.

Nearly a decade on, Liverpool’s data-gathering goes much deeper. Spearman, a Chicago-born Harvard-educated physicist who spent five years as Liverpool’s lead data scientist before succeeding Graham as the club’s director of research in January last year, has been working on an algorithm that evaluates coaching performance on a wide range of metrics — not just team performance but playing style, individual player development, compatibility with different types of players etc — to predict future outcomes and suitability for certain jobs.

Slot’s scores, reflecting his performance during three seasons in charge of Feyenoord, are said to have been blindingly impressive: “Top of the top”. Hughes and Edwards had already discussed Slot, among others, as a strong contender. But they had not expected the data to bring such a resounding endorsement of his candidacy.

There was a recognition inside Liverpool that it would be impossible to find a facsimile of Klopp — and, because he was regarded as such a one-off, that it would be ill-advised to try. But in Slot, they saw some appealing parallels with the German coach who won seven major trophies at Anfield and has been the club’s most transformative manager since Bill Shankly. Edwards and Hughes feel Slot’s exciting, intense, high-pressing, possession-based brand of attacking football ticked the box of energising Liverpool’s players and crowd. Given their belief in the playing talent already at the club, they are convinced his style will be a good fit for the squad he inherits.

The data served to underline how Slot had Feyenoord punching above their weight. In May 2022, he led them to the final of the Europa Conference League (where they were beaten 1-0 by Roma). Domestically, he was crowned Eredivisie manager of the year.
Despite the departures of key players and having only a fraction of the resources available to rivals PSV Eindhoven and Ajax, he led a new-look team to league title glory and the quarter-finals of the Europa League in 2022-23.

Liverpool’s current coaching staff were not asked for their views on Klopp’s successor, but Slot has a big advocate in Pep Lijnders, who will also leave the club this summer.
Slot visited Lijnders’ house when he was starting as a youth coach nearly a decade ago and they exchanged ideas over several hours. Lijnders regards Slot as the best Dutch coach around: someone who is tactically smart and an innovator, with a clear playing style and the personality to handle the step up.

Hughes also spoke to Bournemouth defender Senesi and others who have played for him, but also people who have seen his work at Feyenoord at close quarters. A consistent message from Rotterdam cited the way he transmits his energy to the players and the fanbase.
Like Liverpool, Rotterdam is a football-mad port city. The way he has taken the players, the club and the fanbase on a journey with him was felt to be pleasingly familiar. That was not a prerequisite in the search for Klopp’s successor. But in Slot’s case, on top of his other qualities, it was a bonus.

The reports about Amorim — whose fitness coach at Sporting, Paulo Barreira, was a former Anfield staff member — caused a degree of annoyance at Liverpool, who did not want any candidate, such as Slot, thinking the job had been offered to anyone else. The reality is that Amorim, who was keen to move to the Premier League, did feature on Liverpool’s list, having scored well in much of the data analysis, but he was never a front-runner. Amorim’s agent Raul Costa came to Merseyside in early April but that trip was primarily to visit Luis Diaz, the Liverpool winger he also represents.

While impressed by his record, Edwards and Hughes had doubts about Amorim’s compatibility with the Liverpool job specifically. They were unconvinced that his preference for a three-man central defence — shared by Alonso at Leverkusen, incidentally — would suit many of the players he would be working with. But more significant was a nagging concern about Amorim’s playing style. Sporting may have scored 96 goals in 34 league matches this season, but theirs is regarded as a slower style that is less front-foot — both in and out of possession.

There were similar conclusions about De Zerbi at Brighton and Germany coach Julian Nagelsmann. Like Amorim, De Zerbi was on a theoretical shortlist but not one of the first names on it. Playing style and compatibility with Liverpool were again considered to be a factor.

Others who were discussed briefly included Iraola, whose Bournemouth contract had been due to expire in 2025 (he signed a new one last week), and Newcastle United’s Eddie Howe, having both worked under Hughes at Bournemouth, together with Stuttgart coach Sebastian Hoeness (whose data scores were closely aligned with Klopp’s, and who had many admirers at Liverpool) and Michel, who has enjoyed a superb season at Girona in La Liga.

Inter Milan’s Simone Inzaghi (a well-respected coach whose lack of English was potentially problematic) and Lille’s Paulo Fonseca (now interesting AC Milan) were also considered, but they were never seriously in the frame.

The claims of Ernesto Valverde, however, were regarded by Liverpool as much stronger. The 60-year-old was a leading contender, having won two league titles at Barcelona, three championships in Greece with Olympiacos and recently ended Athletic Bilbao’s 40-year wait for a major trophy by winning the Copa del Rey last month. He would also have fitted the ‘brave’ ‘criteria laid out by Hughes and Edwards.

Luciano Spalletti, 65, was also of significant interest. Last season, he guided Napoli to their first Serie A title since 1990, but he had only been appointed to manage the Italy national team last August. The fact that both men were seriously considered, however, suggested that age was not a major consideration in Liverpool’s thinking.

Appointing Slot is not without risk, and some outside of Anfield are sceptical. He has just two major Dutch trophies to his name, which is low for a manager of a club with Liverpool’s profile, and has had only fleeting experiences in the Champions League. Klopp, too, only had three major trophies on his CV when he arrived at Anfield — but two were Bundesliga titles, with a greater cachet than the Eredivisie, and he had also reached a Champions League final.

Slot is also a forthright personality. He has high standards and is used to getting what he wants, which helps explain his success but can also be antagonistic. There was a flash of this in the way he publicly called to be allowed to join Liverpool when negotiations with Feyenoord over compensation threatened to become difficult.

Lijepo je znati da nisu donijeli uzurbanu odluku kako su neki tvrdili, nego da je sve dio veceg procesa i istrazivanja.

[convict]

Slot tek treba da se dokaze, ali jako mi se svidja ovaj Edwardsov pristup - donosenje odluka na temelju cinjenica i prema jasno utvrdjenim kriterijima, i potpuno hladnokrvno.

Nadam se da ce isto biti i sa transferima. Slot bi trebao definisati kakav profil igraca mu treba, a odabir neka radi Edwards sa svojom ekipom. Isto i za izlazne transfere, ko postane teret treba ga se rijesiti pod najpovoljnijim uslovima, nema starih zasluga.

[BHF_Manijak]

Ma to je bila Kloppova velika prednost, ali i uteg. Lijepo je graditi relacije, vezati se za igrace, imati ljudski pristup, ali imati u konacnici i profesionalan odnos, jer ovo je na kraju dana biznis, a u biznisu nema emocija. Ili mozes ili ne mozes, kraj price!

Mnogi igraci su barem godinu dana duze bilu tu nego su trebali. Iz kompletne plejade jedino mi je Firmina zao, jer sam siguran da je on mogao jos godinu-dvije dobrog fudbala igrati, ali mislim da je odluka njegova bila da ide, a ne Kloppova.
Ostale ojebine je ranije trebalo nabiti nogom.

Mislim super je ta njegova prica, vezivanje za igrace, "bitne su emocije, ne koliko si trofeja osvojio" bla bla bla, ali opet kazem na kraju dana ovo je biznis i mene kao krajnjeg konzumenta toga boli karina kako ce se osjecati jedan Henderson sto je nabijen nogom iz kluba, s par miliona na racunu. Sta, treba za njim da se place, kako ce jadan rezije platit, sta li?
Nije Gerrard jebo te.

Necu reci da se drugacije radilo da bi bila koja "kanta" vise u vitrinama, ali bi kudikamo lakse bilo kada ti neki mladi, svjez, igrac udje s klupe, a ne da ti Milner s 38 godina u kljucnim utakmicama pokriva ili Henderson koji ne moze hodati, mrtvi Ox itd...

Gundogan donese titulu doslovno Cityu, kapiten tima - hvala ti majstore, evo ti zahvalnica, cvijece i idemo dalje. Sane najbolji mladi igrac EPL-a, vidi Guardiola ne ide sa njim kako zeli - hvala i dovidjenja. Mahrez isto tako. Zinchenko, Sterling...

[vaučer]

Pep = good
Klopp = bad

[Logovan]

Evo da se podsjetite ako već niste

[vaučer]

Coutinho nije koštao 32 miliona.

[BHF_Manijak]

Oko 13-14 miliona mislim da je bio transfer iz Intera, bagatela s obzirom kakva je igracina.

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/s/X3qbQifFVV

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

[ismar2215]

Curtis izgleda ide na Euro umjesto Hendersona. Dobro iskustvo za njega. Osim Trenta i njega, moguci su pozivi Elliottu, Gomezu i Quansahu. U 1 ide spisak.

Konate ide sa francuzima, Szobo sa mađarima, Robbo sa Škotima, Jota vjerovatno s Portugalom, potvrđeno Virgil, Gakpo i Gravenberch s Holandijom.

Igra se i Copa America, a ovi naši svi ce sigurno ici (Alisson, Diaz, Darwin, Alexis). Ne odmara nam puno igrača preko ljeta.

[ismar2215]

Ipak je u 3 spisak. Javljaju da izgleda ide i Quansah.

[drug_profi]

Ma kakve smo sreće barem trojica će se vratiti povrijeđeni i biti out do nove godine.

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

Ne vidim u kojem je filmu Jones zaslužio poziv ispred Elliotta.

[AmiĐa_Idriz]

[Capajebo]

Ne vidim u kojem je filmu Jones zaslužio poziv ispred Elliotta.

Da se ne lazemo, cak je i ovo "ispred Elliota" visak u recenici. Dovoljan bi bio prvi dio
Al hajd, drago mi je sto je uletio