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#10426 Re: AMERIKA

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sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:12
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:10
sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:06 Sta pise 24% 68%, koliko je to na izborima a i u reqlnom zivotu da ce uticati rat u gazi na glasanje? 24 i 68 nema boga.
Koje je tvoje pitanje tacno?
Konstatacija da je gaza nebitna u americkim izbo rima. Pogotovu sa jacanjem desnicarske maga republikanske strane .
Pa nije nebitna. Zasto mislis da je nebitna?

Pa ne bi djaba postavljali to pitanje.
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#10427 Re: AMERIKA

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jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:18
sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:12
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:10

Koje je tvoje pitanje tacno?
Konstatacija da je gaza nebitna u americkim izbo rima. Pogotovu sa jacanjem desnicarske maga republikanske strane .
Pa nije nebitna. Zasto mislis da je nebitna?

Pa ne bi djaba postavljali to pitanje.
Pokusavam nesto drugo reci.
Vise je bitna ovde na klixu i u bosni nego u amerixi. Evo budi iskren, da li si ti ikad cuo kod vas na us vijestima termine okupacione vlasti, agresija na gazu, snage otpora i genocid u gazi . Ja to ovde na domacim medijima slusam 24/7.
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sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:18 Ok vjerujem, koji je taj dobar dio? Ne toliki da utice na izbore.
Vi ste gore i znate bolje, a i nije politicki korektno pisati otvoreno kako vecina amera njih dozivlajava sto i jeste rasisticki nema govora.
Ako bajden izgibi izo re to ce biti orvenstvfno jer je druga strana rsdila bolju kamoanju i propagandu, da je bajden star, da nije zatvorio granicu, da demokrate vracaju namete, u istavaju trsdiciju i ameriku, a amerika mora biti na orvom mjestu ii stadnardna desnicarska prica.
A sve sto se prigovara bajdenu u vezi gaze, mislim da ce se tek zaliti za bajdenom ako trump pobijedi.

P s jednostsvno kucanje na mobu je zamorno i ne mogu isporsvljati sve greske.
Sve se racuna. Niko ne gubi izbore samo iz jednog razloga.

Napisao sam vec ranije, radi se o 2-3 procenta maksimum. Ali ta 2-3 procenta mogu biti kljucna.

No slazem se ako izgubi nije sigurno ovo glavni razlog.

Dodao bih jos, po svemu sto vidim, ljudi imaju poprilicno zestoka misljenja po pitanju Izraela. Jako puno Demokratskih glasaca imaju dijametralno suprotna misljenja. Tako da je za bilo kod Dem predsjednika to minsko polje.
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#10429 Re: AMERIKA

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Vas a pretpostsvljam da ste na strani demokrata, ako ista ukopa to je onda hajp oko trumpa i bajdenove godine i granica. Tradicionalne vrijednosti, krscanske dabome :mrgreen:
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#10430 Re: AMERIKA

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sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:21
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:18
sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:12
Konstatacija da je gaza nebitna u americkim izbo rima. Pogotovu sa jacanjem desnicarske maga republikanske strane .
Pa nije nebitna. Zasto mislis da je nebitna?

Pa ne bi djaba postavljali to pitanje.
Pokusavam nesto drugo reci.
Vise je bitna ovde na klixu i u bosni nego u amerixi. Evo budi iskren, da li si ti ikad cuo kod vas na us vijestima termine okupacione vlasti, agresija na gazu, snage otpora i genocid u gazi . Ja to ovde na domacim medijima slusam 24/7.
Klix nije americki forum.
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#10431 Re: AMERIKA

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sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:07
Čitalac wrote: 02/03/2024 21:02 To redovno rade Center for American Political Studies at Harvard (CAPS) and the Harris Poll and HarrisX.
Ovo je za februar:
82% of voters support Israel over Hamas (with 72% support among 18-24-year-olds, their highest percentage to date).
63% of voters support Israel continuing its ground invasion into Southern Gaza to root out the final elements of Hamas.
Detaljno po partijama i ostalim parametrima...

https://harvardharrispoll.com/crosstabs-february-2/
Aha 82% over hamas, dakle ne palestinaca niti gaze nego over hamas. Pametnom dosta
Oni njih dozivljavaju ko hamasovce, da ne budem grublji
Evo sad gledam ove rezultate, zapravo zavisi od pitanja. Recimo, o Hamasu negativno mišljenje ima 67% (11% pozitivno), a o palestinskim vlastima 49 % negativno (18 % pozitivno) i tako dalje, 200 stranica ima. Opet, ima naravno i drugih istraživanja sa drugačijim rezultatima.
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#10432 Re: AMERIKA

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jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:32
sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:21
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:18

Pa nije nebitna. Zasto mislis da je nebitna?

Pa ne bi djaba postavljali to pitanje.
Pokusavam nesto drugo reci.
Vise je bitna ovde na klixu i u bosni nego u amerixi. Evo budi iskren, da li si ti ikad cuo kod vas na us vijestima termine okupacione vlasti, agresija na gazu, snage otpora i genocid u gazi . Ja to ovde na domacim medijima slusam 24/7.
Klix nije americki forum.
Pa to i govorim, nego putam kakve termine kod vas gore koriste
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jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 01:25 ...
No najveci problem je manjak entuzijazma - tj. izlaznost. Jbg obicno se vise naloze oni koji su u opoziciji, pogotovo sad kad je ovaj aktivno u primaries.
Biti entuzijastičan (koji je ushićen, zanesen, oduševljen) oko ponovnog Bidenovog izbora djeluje nespojivo sa average Joe, ali i planetom.
Trump će ove izbore pomesti, a iz pristojnosti dodati: vjerovatno, moguće.
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sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:21
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 21:18
sumirprimus wrote: 02/03/2024 21:12
Konstatacija da je gaza nebitna u americkim izbo rima. Pogotovu sa jacanjem desnicarske maga republikanske strane .
Pa nije nebitna. Zasto mislis da je nebitna?

Pa ne bi djaba postavljali to pitanje.
Pokusavam nesto drugo reci.
Vise je bitna ovde na klixu i u bosni nego u amerixi. Evo budi iskren, da li si ti ikad cuo kod vas na us vijestima termine okupacione vlasti, agresija na gazu, snage otpora i genocid u gazi . Ja to ovde na domacim medijima slusam 24/7.
More than one in three Americans believe Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, a poll published on Wednesday has found.
According to the Economist/YouGov poll, roughly equal numbers of adults believe Israel’s military campaign against Palestinians, which is estimated to have killed more than 25,000 people since 7 October, amounts to genocide: 35% say it is, 36% say it isn’t, with 29% undecided.

Among younger Americans, and along political lines, divisions are more prominent. Almost half of those surveyed aged 18-29, 49%, say Israel is committing genocide, with 24% disagreeing and 27% uncertain.
The figures are broadly similar for registered Democrats, who believe 49%-21% in the genocide characterization, while 30% are undecided. Republicans are far more supportive of Israel’s actions, with 57% of respondents saying there is no genocide, only 18% saying there is, and exactly one-quarter unsure.
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100k ljudi u swing stateu je uncommitted, kako je nebitno pitanje? I šta predstavljaju mediji tamo zapravo? Lokalni subsidiariji donose vijesti mnogo brže od CNN-a, FOX-a itd, tamo ako nešto dospije znači da je baš big news. Socijalne mreže su puno bolji reprezent stanja u društvu, sviđalo se to nekome ili ne. I ne mislim isključivo na Twitter - YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, pa i MAGA alternative poput Rumblea su mnogo bitniji, jer je tamo video content koji jednostavno ima više reacha među narodom.


Za sedam mjeseci možda nešto drugo bude bitnije doduše.

Inače, itekako ontopic, Musk koji je počeo laprdati MAGA retoriku ima moć da utiče na izbore.



Samo jedan primjer.
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toska wrote: 02/03/2024 23:31
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 01:25 ...
No najveci problem je manjak entuzijazma - tj. izlaznost. Jbg obicno se vise naloze oni koji su u opoziciji, pogotovo sad kad je ovaj aktivno u primaries.
Biti entuzijastičan (koji je ushićen, zanesen, oduševljen) oko ponovnog Bidenovog izbora djeluje nespojivo sa average Joe, ali i planetom.
Trump će ove izbore pomesti, a iz pristojnosti dodati: vjerovatno, moguće.
Ne sjecam se nekog entuzijazma oko Bidena ni 2020., pa je dobio najvise glasova u istoriji.
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toska wrote: 02/03/2024 23:31
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 01:25 ...
No najveci problem je manjak entuzijazma - tj. izlaznost. Jbg obicno se vise naloze oni koji su u opoziciji, pogotovo sad kad je ovaj aktivno u primaries.
Biti entuzijastičan (koji je ushićen, zanesen, oduševljen) oko ponovnog Bidenovog izbora djeluje nespojivo sa average Joe, ali i planetom.
Trump će ove izbore pomesti, a iz pristojnosti dodati: vjerovatno, moguće.
Pa ni prosle izbore nije entuzijazam bio oko Bidena pa je osvojio vise glasova nego iko u historiji.
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ultima_palabra wrote: 03/03/2024 03:20
toska wrote: 02/03/2024 23:31
jeza u ledja wrote: 02/03/2024 01:25 ...
No najveci problem je manjak entuzijazma - tj. izlaznost. Jbg obicno se vise naloze oni koji su u opoziciji, pogotovo sad kad je ovaj aktivno u primaries.
Biti entuzijastičan (koji je ushićen, zanesen, oduševljen) oko ponovnog Bidenovog izbora djeluje nespojivo sa average Joe, ali i planetom.
Trump će ove izbore pomesti, a iz pristojnosti dodati: vjerovatno, moguće.
Ne sjecam se nekog entuzijazma oko Bidena ni 2020., pa je dobio najvise glasova u istoriji.
lol ucini mi se da sam dva put postao :lol:
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Velkoski wrote: 03/03/2024 02:53 100k ljudi u swing stateu je uncommitted, kako je nebitno pitanje? I šta predstavljaju mediji tamo zapravo? Lokalni subsidiariji donose vijesti mnogo brže od CNN-a, FOX-a itd, tamo ako nešto dospije znači da je baš big news. Socijalne mreže su puno bolji reprezent stanja u društvu, sviđalo se to nekome ili ne. I ne mislim isključivo na Twitter - YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, pa i MAGA alternative poput Rumblea su mnogo bitniji, jer je tamo video content koji jednostavno ima više reacha među narodom.


Za sedam mjeseci možda nešto drugo bude bitnije doduše.

Inače, itekako ontopic, Musk koji je počeo laprdati MAGA retoriku ima moć da utiče na izbore.



Samo jedan primjer.
Ma nisu svi ti glasovi rade Gaze.

Ne kazem da je nebitna stavka, naprotiv, ali nije najbitnija stvar za gubitak glasova.

Sto se tice medija, sve to stoji, ali matori ljudi i dalje redovno gledaju msm, a oni imaju najvecu izlaznost.
Plus je dosta stvari na drustvenim mrezama kontent sa msm medija.
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Pa bila je mobilizacija glasaca za prosle izbore i cilj je bio skinuti Trumpa.
Izlaznost jedna od najvećih u historiji izbora u SAD-u, pogotovo ovih "modernog doba". Treba se vratiti sve do izbora 1900. godine da bi dosli do vece izlaznosti. Mislim da je u poređenju s izlaznosti iz doba Obame i Busha juniora bila oko 10% veca. Sto je golem skok.
Stoga, logicno je da sa vecom izlaznosti i rastom populacije kroz vrijeme je dobio najvise glasova u apsolutnim brojevima i to ne bi trebalo da znaci puno.
Ali kao sto jez napisa ranije, manjak entuzijazama i izlaznost imaju i veze s tim jesi li u opoziciji. U svakom slucaju, praviti neke predikcije izvlaciti zakljucke moze svako. To je najlakse, i neka ima svako pravo na svoje misljenje samo ne treba to uzimati kao gotovu stvar.
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Mirno spavaj sumire, na pravoj si strani istorije. S magatorima.
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Haj kad su ih zaredali da postavim jos jedan:
For Democrats Pining for an Alternative, Biden Team Has a Message: Get Over It

A new poll shows that nearly two in five Democrats say that the president should not be their nominee. But no one who matters to the president seems willing to suggest he step aside.

When it comes down to it, a lot of Democrats wish President Biden were not running this fall. Only 28 percent of Democrats in a new survey by The New York Times and Siena College expressed enthusiasm about his candidacy and 38 percent said flatly that Mr. Biden should not be their nominee.

But even as many Democrats both in Washington and around the country quietly pine for someone else to take on former President Donald J. Trump, who leads nationwide in the poll by 5 percentage points, no one who matters seems willing to tell that to Mr. Biden himself. Or if they are, he does not appear to be listening.

Surrounded by a loyal and devoted inner circle, Mr. Biden has given no indication that he would consider stepping aside to let someone else lead the party. Indeed, he and the people close to him bristle at the notion. For all the hand-wringing, the president’s advisers note, no serious challenge has emerged and Mr. Biden has dominated the early Democratic primaries even more decisively than Mr. Trump has won his own party’s nominating contests.

The Biden team views the very question as absurd. The president in their view has an impressive record of accomplishment to run on. There is no obvious alternative. It is far too late in the cycle to bow out without considerable disruption. If he were ever to have opted against a second term, it would have been a year ago when there would have been time for a successor to emerge. And other than someone with Biden in their name, it is hard to imagine who would have enough influence to even broach the idea with him, much less sway him.

“There is no council of elders and I’m not sure if there was that an incumbent president, no matter who it was, would listen to them,” said David Plouffe, the architect of President Barack Obama’s campaigns and one of the strategists who helped him pick Mr. Biden as his vice-presidential running mate in 2008. “He thinks, ‘Hey, I won and I beat the guy who’s going to run against me and I can do it again.’”

Members of Mr. Biden’s team insist they feel little sense of concern. The president’s closest aides push back in exasperation against those questioning his decision to run again and dismiss polls as meaningless this far before the vote. They argue that doubters constantly underestimate Mr. Biden and that Democrats have won or outperformed expectations in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2023 and even a special House election this year.

“klix voter behavior tells us a lot more than any poll does and it tells a very clear story: Joe Biden and Democrats continue to outperform while Donald Trump and the party he leads are weak, cash-strapped, and deeply divided,” Michael Tyler, the Biden campaign’s communications director, said on Saturday. “Our campaign is ignoring the noise and running a strong campaign to win — just like we did in 2020.”

Outside the White House, though, many Democrats wish that the no-panic White House would exhibit some urgency. Mr. Biden’s weakness in polls, especially those showing him trailing in all of the half-dozen swing states necessary to assemble an Electoral College majority, have generated widespread anxiety within the party. Some privately say that Georgia and Arizona may be out of reach, requiring Mr. Biden to sweep Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

The discontent is not necessarily a judgment on the merits of Mr. Biden’s presidency. Many Democrats say he has done a good job on many fronts — winding down the pandemic, rebuilding the economy, managing wars in Europe and the Middle East and enacting landmark legislation on infrastructure, climate change, health care, industrial policy, veterans’ care and other issues.

But his support has been undercut by concern about his age, his support for Israel’s war on Hamas, the record influx of migrants at the southwest border and the lingering effects of inflation even though it has come back down. More than 100,000 Democrats in Michigan, or 13 percent of the total, just cast protest votes for “uncommitted” to voice their dissatisfaction, most notably over Gaza.

Mr. Biden, 81, is just a little older than Mr. Trump, 77, and both have exhibited moments of confusion and memory lapses. After his annual physical this past week, Mr. Biden’s doctor pronounced him “fit for duty.” But polls show that more of the public is unsettled by Mr. Biden’s advancing years than Mr. Trump’s.

“Would I rather that Joe Biden were 65? Sure, that would be great,” said Elaine Kamarck, director of the Center for Effective Public Management at the Brookings Institution and a member of the Democratic National Committee. “But he’s not. And that’s why I think we’re in the silly season where everybody is casting around for some alternate scenario.”

The alternate scenarios remain far-fetched. The long-shot challenger, Representative Dean Phillips of Minnesota, has gotten no traction and with Super Tuesday coming up this week it is almost certainly too late for a more heavyweight candidate to jump into the contest even if any were willing to take on the president, which none seem prepared to do.

Plenty of dinner-table conversations in Washington these days focus on what would happen if Mr. Biden changed his mind at the last minute the way President Lyndon B. Johnson did in 1968 or experienced a health situation that prompted him to drop out. If that happened before the Democratic National Convention in August, it would set the stage for the first open competition at a convention in decades. After the convention, any vacancy at the top of the ticket would be filled by the Democratic National Committee.

All the talk, though, is just that. Mr. Biden is helped by the fact that no one from the next generation of Democrats waiting in the wings, like Vice President Kamala Harris or Governors Gavin Newsom of California or Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, has a proven national following or track record of success in primaries.

“You could name five or six alternatives to Biden but they haven’t been through the system,” said Ms. Kamarck, one of the country’s leading experts on the nomination process who has just published the fourth edition of her quadrennial guide, “Primary Politics: Everything You Need to Know about How America Nominates Its Presidential Candidates.”

“We don’t know enough about them to hand them a nomination,” she continued. “It’s crazy. The whole thing is so nutty. There is no alternative.”

Ms. Kamarck said that more and more, Democrats have come to accept that. “Democrats are increasingly getting very, very vocal in their defense of Biden,” she said. “The guy’s a good guy. He’s not senile. He’s made good choices. The economy’s the best economy in the world. I mean, shut up. Let’s get behind this guy.”

The notion that someone outside his family could talk Mr. Biden into stepping aside has always been a fanciful one. There are few Democrats with the kind of gravitas that might mean something to Mr. Biden. He still feels sore that Mr. Obama gently pushed him not to run in 2016, deferring to Hillary Clinton, who went on to lose to Mr. Trump in the fall. Mr. Biden is old enough to have no mentors left and few peers from his Senate days. And Jill Biden and other family members strongly support this final run.

“There were only two people who could prevent Joe Biden from being the nominee — Joe Biden if he decides not to run or someone serious who would challenge him,” said Mr. Plouffe. And no matter how appealing a younger Democrat might seem in theory, he added, nothing is certain until someone actually runs and wins. “The political graveyard is full of people who look good on paper,” he said.

Mr. Plouffe agreed that “the concerns about his age are more pronounced than people thought” a year ago. “The only thing you can do is normalize it and ultimately take the fight to Trump.” He said he was pleased to see Mr. Biden get out more, go on late-night television and utilize Tik Tok. The more voters see him, Mr. Plouffe reasoned, the less any particular miscue might matter.

An important moment for the president to assert himself will come on Thursday night when he delivers his State of the Union address to what historically should be his largest television audience of the year. He will talk about his record and what he wants to do for the next four years. But as important as any policy pronouncement will be how he presents himself.

The president’s advisers express confidence that when the moment of decision arrives, most voters will again prefer Mr. Biden, whatever his faults, to Mr. Trump, a twice-impeached defeated former president who faces 91 felony counts, has been found liable in civil trials for sweeping business fraud and sexual assault and talks of being a “dictator” for a day.

“Where most Democrats are,” said Mr. Plouffe, “is, ‘OK, this is going to be really hard, a high degree of difficulty, but ultimately there’s probably enough of the country who doesn’t want to sign up for a second Trump term that we can make this work.’”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/biden-poll.html
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Amerika u strahu od Trumpa osma godina. Izlaze prognoze svaki dan
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#10444 Re: AMERIKA

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S obzirom da ja uvijek fulim kada su američki izbori u pitanju, ja kažem da će Trump dobiti izbore :D
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#10445 Re: AMERIKA

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Dead Man Walking wrote: 03/03/2024 05:23 Mirno spavaj sumire, na pravoj si strani istorije. S magatorima.
Smijesno, maga je ista strana medalje nasoj sdfa. Le penovoj u francuskoj, afdu u njemackoj, sns u srbiji, i slicno. Bajden ima vise slicnosti sa nasom trojkom u smislu i kad uradi nesto dobro dzaba kada marva trubi o ugrozenosti i tradiciji. Narsvno uprosteno poredjenje.
Druga je stvar sto se ja ne vodim religijom pa da gledam i na politiku u svijetu tim ocima kao sto radi 95% naseg svijeta. Bolji primjer od nas u smislu borbe za drzavu su kosovari ,i to sto puta . Ako ne razumijes o cemu pricam dzaba sve.
Dakle izmedju dvije gerijatrije, vise bih volio da tamo dobije izbore Bajden gerijatrija kad vec nemaju hrabrosti i volje nominirat nekoga mladjeg tipa guvernera kalifornije.
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#10446 Re: AMERIKA

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sinuhe wrote: 03/03/2024 07:52 Amerika u strahu od Trumpa osma godina. Izlaze prognoze svaki dan
Ne djeluje da su oni u strahu, prosječni Amer vjerovatno razmišlja u smislu da glas za Bidana predstavlja nastavak svega u državi po starom, a glas za Trumpa neku promjenu koja može biti gora ali i bolja, vrijedi li rizikovati?

Strah je izvan Amerike, u svijetu, a prvenstveno u Europi.
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Pa bio je i Trump 4 godine i vidjele su se te neke promjene, nadam se da su većina amerikanaca skontali da nije vrijedno opet rizikovati.

Ono, been there, done that.
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Nije ni Trumpu lako, od Obame ima ptsd :-D

https://avaz.ba/vijesti/globus/889538/trampov-novi-gaf-bajdena-uporno-nazivao-obamom
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#10449 Re: AMERIKA

Post by geralt »

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1230453714/supreme-court-trump-colorado-ballot

Americki Vrhovni sud jednoglasno odlucio da Trump ostaje na glasackom listicu u Koloradu i ostalim saveznim drzavama, odnosno da ne moze biti diskvalifikovan bez odluke Kongresa i da savezne drzave nemaju pravo da o tome odlucuju.
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#10450 Re: AMERIKA

Post by swanfilter »

Mene izbor Trumpa ne brine po pitanju vanjske politike. Cak je i u pravu u vezi jednih stvari. I, moze on provoditi svoju samovolju, al u odsudnim momentima tamo se pitaju i drugi. A ko je Europi prije svega kriv za zavisnost od njih.

Mnogo vise mene Trump brine na unutrasnjem planu. Covjek je spreman na nepojmljivo za USA i njihov sistem vladanja. Njegovo ponasanje ohrabruje Orbana i slicne, a tek mnogobrojne domace budale. Oni u Trumpu vide sve ono sto od Republikanaca oduvijek ocekuju, a nije se nikada ispunilo ni za promil.

Nije USA povlacenje iz svijeta slabost i pocetak kraja, kako to neki vide. USA ce oslabiti dozvole li sebi masovno ignoriranje vrhovne vlasti od strane pojedinih drzava i guvernera, jacanje razno raznih pokreta sa oruzjem u rukama i sirenje sovinizma, mrznje i rasizma. Osam godina njegove vladavine moze dovesti do velikih poremecaja.
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