Kako su se lijevi mediji ogrjesili od Majka Pensa. Lik koji je u odsutnom trenutku spasio republikanski sistem drzave.
?Pence’s son reportedly convinced him to stand up to Trump over January 6
Sve je do motivacije kao sto kazes.ultima_palabra wrote: ↑14/12/2023 22:24Jesam mislio na to boldirano.jeza u ledja wrote: ↑14/12/2023 05:20 Mislim da debelo precjenjujes vaznost Izraela u americkoj politici u odnosu na Vijetnam onda. U Vijetnam su isli regrutovani americki mladici da ginu, njih po 10k+ godisnje. Drukcije je kad se radi o tvojoj guzici.
Drugo, iako je americka politika prema Izraelu od pocetka bila prijateljska, ona nije uvijek bila ovako “srceparajuca”, tipa da predsjednik izjavljuje da je cionista. U tom smislu, dakle u nijansama, se vrlo lako moze promjeniti i u buducnosti, ali to je sve. Americko saveznistvo ili zastita Izraela se nikad nece promjeniti. Moze se promjeniti jedino ako Amerikom zavladaju nacisti ili tako nesto. Naravno, ovo drasticno ovisi od samog Izraela i njihovog ponasanja.
Trece, iako ovo u Gazi itekako moze biti tas na vagi koji ce donjeti prednost Trumpu, mislim da debelo potcjenjujes sposobnost americkog glasaca da se pretvori u zlatnu ribicu, pogotovo sto se do jeseni 2024-e mogu desiti druge bitne stvari. U pitanju je tas na vagi, ne tektonsko pomjeranje misljenja glasaca. I taj tas se vrlo lako moze pomjeriti. Na stranu to sto se postavlja pitanje kakav je to neko tupan ko bi radije Trumpa za predsjednika umjesto Bidena zbog rata u Gazi.
Inace, pricu o Vijetnamu nije promjenio Carter. Prica se davno pocela mijenjati, a vrhunac je bio konacni popuslic mislim cirka godinu prije izbora. Plus Watergate naravno, i ekonomija (a to je bilo povezano i sa Izraelom btw).
Mislio sam da si nesto povezivao LBJ i Izrael.
No ako si iz svega ovoga mislio kako je jedan rat u kojeg je ukljucena (iako indirektno) Amerika podjelio glasace Demokrata i tako doveo barabu Republikanca na vlast, onda ok. No ako se sjecam LBJ je odustao od trke bas nekad u ova doba, a jednog od kandidata su jos i roknuli u toku kampanje (ciji sin je, interesantno, kandidat za predsjednika ovaj puta.)
Generalno ne bi pridavao previse znacaja anketama danas u smislu izbornih sansi izmedju dva kandidata. Mene vise brine sto je i prije ovoga bilo bare-bare. Drugim rijecima, ne mislim da ce rat u Gazi biti nesto sto ce biti glavni faktor na americkim izborima sljedece godine. Da su izbori danas, mozda bi. Mozda.
Naravno, generalno, americka politika prema Izraelu se nece mijenjati, bilo sa Trumpom, bilo sa nekim buducim demokratskim (ili demokratsko izabranim?) predsjednikom. Americka politika prema vlastitim gradjanima hoce. (A bogami hoce itekako i prema svim onima kojima zivot ovisi o trazenju azila ovdje).
Ali, priorities, jbg.
Tako je to kad ovisis o glasovima mladjarije, koja se ne sjeca ni 2016-e, a kamo li dalje. Prosli put smo tako dobili ukidanje Roe i pokusaj puca. Bas me zanima sta mozemo sljedeci put dobiti.
Al dobro, narod ima vlast kakvu zasluzuje….naravno pod uslovom da jos uvijek ima pravo da je bira.
Mozda precjenjujem, ali u ovako polariziranoj situaciji 1% glasaca je kao nekada 5%. Eto bas te 68. demokrati su izgubili rasiste sa juga kao i anti-ratnu mladjariju, pa su opet tijesno izgubili izbore. Sada kada je stalno bare-bare, izgubis jednu grupaciju i skoro sigurno si popusio. I na ovim izborima kao i 2020. i 2016. ce kljucan biti odziv i motivacija, tesko ce se neko presaltati sa Bidena na Trumpa i obrnuto.
Biden je sigurno izgubio muslimane, a progresivce i mladjariju ne znam cime moze opet vratiti u svoj tabor. Tu su i crnci bez cijeg jakog odziva demokrati ne mogu dobiti izbore, a vec se ranije predvidjalo da se ne moze ponoviti njihov odziv iz 2020. I to su generalno grupe glasaca koje ne pate od tog sindroma "zlatne ribice".
Naravno da ce se promijeniti politika prema Izraelu, bar sa strane demokrata, kada se uvidi da je ovo bila gubitnicka strategija Bidena. Ne mislim na neki zaokret od 180 stepeni, ali nece biti blanko podrske.
Sin mu je marinac inace, frajer je dao zakletvu sa ce braniti ustav. Za americkog vojnika naravno koji je posten njemu je ustav sve i rijetko koji ce protiv biti. Strasno disciplinovana armija, naravno uvijek ima izuzetaka. Al budite uvjereni da bi ga vojska skinula da nije htio da izadje iz Bijele Kuce.
Ne bi ga skinula vojska vec Secret Service ja mislim.Rob_Atl wrote: ↑15/12/2023 00:47Sin mu je marinac inace, frajer je dao zakletvu sa ce braniti ustav. Za americkog vojnika naravno koji je posten njemu je ustav sve i rijetko koji ce protiv biti. Strasno disciplinovana armija, naravno uvijek ima izuzetaka. Al budite uvjereni da bi ga vojska skinula da nije htio da izadje iz Bijele Kuce.
Sto su se ogrijesili? Napravio kampanju i ponudio program republikanskim biracima i oni nisu bili zadovoljni.Haris.ba wrote: ↑14/12/2023 22:40Kako su se lijevi mediji ogrjesili od Majka Pensa. Lik koji je u odsutnom trenutku spasio republikanski sistem drzave.
Umjesto da to stalno potenciraju i usade u mozak prosjecnog Amera sta znaci odgovornost prema drzavi, oni ga zaboravili.
Mogao je tako zakucati proceduralni sistem izbora predsjednika da je pitanje sta uraditi u datom trenutku. Da je bio neki ubjedjeni trampista na njegovom mjestu pitanje je sta i kako bi bilo.
Bas me zanima koga ce izabrati za svog potpredsjenika Tramp sada.
Zipa ovog lole... ali hajmo mi pricati kako je intifada poziv na istrebljenje Jevreja.A Georgia middle school teacher was arrested last week after multiple witnesses told authorities he threatened to behead a 13-year-old Muslim student who said the Israeli flag hanging in his classroom offended her.
Benjamin Reese, a 51-year-old seventh grade teacher at Warner Robins Middle School, was arrested on charges of making terroristic threats and cruelty to children in the third degree, according to an incident report from the Houston County Sheriff’s Office, which lists more than 20 witnesses.
Reese was arrested on December 8 and records show he has since bonded out of jail. CNN has been unable to determine if he has an attorney who would comment on his behalf.
In a statement, the Houston County School District said all employees are required to adhere to an educator’s code of ethics, and a violation or accusation of one would prompt an investigation.
“While we are not able to discuss specific personnel matters, we can share that Mr. Reese has not been on the campus of Warner Robins Middle School since December 7, 2023,” the statement said. “Safety and the well-being of our students and staff is our number one priority.”
The incident report – written by a sheriff’s deputy who was on duty at the school when the incident occurred – cites several witnesses who said they heard Reese shouting profane threats at three female students in the seventh-grade hallway on December 7, including, “You motherf****ing piece of s**t! I’ll kick your a**! I should cut your motherf****ing head off!”
Another teacher, who was tutoring students in the next classroom, reported hearing Reese call one of the three students “my antisemitic friend.” The teacher said the students began walking down the hall and Reese started yelling that they disrespected “his flag” and were ignorant, according to the incident report.
Reese began walking back to his classroom, the teacher added, when she says she heard him yelling, “She is a stupid motherf***er, and I will drag her by the back of my car and cut her f***ing head off for disrespecting my Jewish flag,” the report stated.
A separate adult witness reported to the deputy she heard Reese yell at the student, “You don’t make an antisemitic comment like that to a Jew,” and later shouting in the hallway that he would “slit her f***ing throat” when talking about the students. That teacher said Reese was yelling loudly and cursing down the hallway back into his classroom.
School surveillance video showed Reese following the three students in the hallway, according to the incident report. The video did not include audio.
When confronted by the school’s principal and the sheriff’s deputy, Reese initially “got defensive,” questioned why the deputy was present and denied speaking to anyone, the report stated. Eventually, however, Reese told the principal a student came into his classroom to tell him she found the Israeli flag offensive, the report says. Reese claimed he told the student she was being antisemitic but denied saying “anything racist.”
Reese became angry and “kicked the door stopper in an aggressive manner” when asked to discuss the incident further, the report says. He then asked in what capacity the deputy was present – whether as a school resource officer or a member of the Houston County Sheriff’s Office, to which the deputy responded, “Both.” Reese then told the deputy he had “nothing further” to say and “invoked his civil rights,” according to the report.
The deputy interviewed all three of the students about what led up to allegedly being threatened by Reese, the report says. One told the deputy she decided to speak with Reese about the flag because she found it offensive, according to the report.
The student said she entered Reese’s classroom, pointed to the flag and asked him why he had it hanging there. According to the student, Reese responded he was Jewish and had family members who still live there, the report stated.
The student told him she found the flag offensive due to “Israelis killing (Palestinians),” and then claimed Reese became angry, she told the deputy. She said he began to yell and asked if she denied the right of Israel to exist and called her antisemitic, according to the report.
The student claimed she left the classroom due to the situation becoming “heated and uncomfortable,” but Reese tried to prevent her from leaving and demanded her name and homeroom teacher, which she gave him. She said he continued to yell at her and her friends as they walked away down the hallway, the report says.
Reports of antisemitism, anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias continue to surge across the US, new data shows
The incident comes at a moment of heightened tension, as the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza continues. In the weeks following Hamas’ October 7 attack — and amid Israel’s continued siege of the enclave – there have been reported spikes in bias incidents of antisemitic and anti-Muslim or anti-Arab sentiment.
There were more than 2,000 antisemitic incidents reported in the two months after October 7, a 337% increase over the same period last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League. And the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, reported more than 2,000 requests for help and reports of bias following October 7.
“We welcome the swift action against Benjamin Reese including the charges and arrest in connection with the horrific threats he allegedly made to a child,” Azka Mahmood, executive director of CAIR-Georgia, said in a statement.
“We hope that the Board of Education will take the appropriate steps to ensure that, if this teacher indeed made the remarks he is accused of making, is not allowed back in classrooms where he can cause immeasurable harm to Muslim, Arab, and Palestinian students,” Mahmood said.
The organization is working with the family to “ensure the safety of the student and the Warner Robins community at large,” Mahmood said.
Ovaj ili je prespavao vijesti danas ili bunca. Plus kaze FED nije smirio inflaciju.zikamu wrote: ↑15/12/2023 05:46 Interesantno stivo...
https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate ... n-lifetime
No akp ste first time home buyers ovo su super vijesti danas.
i izleti mi ovaj podatak listed one of his Malibu homes for $10 million. He bought the house in 1999 for $1.6 million. He sold a different Malibu home in 2010 for $16 million to fashion designer James Perse. Perse would sell this house in 2020 for $34 million.
Nekad si konja mogao kupit za 300$, sad konj vrijedi 30 000$.Truba wrote: ↑15/12/2023 10:40 gledam nešto oko dosjea x
In March 2017 Chris Karter
znaci ulozis 1.6 mil 1999 i prodaš 2017. za 10 mil
jbt kakav skok
samo treba imati nos i prvi milijun
koliko danas ista kuća vrijedi
50?
Kakav bi zatvor cekao Pensa da nije otkocio proceduru imenovanja predsjednika? Ja ne znam za nijedno krivicno djelo koje bi bilo ucinjeno time. Njegova ustavna ovlast.ultima_palabra wrote: ↑15/12/2023 02:50
BTW, i Pence i svi republikanski guverneri i sekretari
su uradili “pravu stvar” iskljucivo zbog straha od zatvora, nema tu nikakavih ubjedjenja.
Njegova ustavna duznost je da prebroji elektorske glasove koji su stigli u koverti sa potpisom i pecatom guvernera i sekretara drzave. Odbijanje da to uradi znacilo bi ometanje oficijalne procedure sto je krivicno djelo te da je dio zavjerenicke grupe kojoj se danas sudi pred federalnim sudom i u Georgiji.Haris.ba wrote: ↑15/12/2023 10:57Kakav bi zatvor cekao Pensa da nije otkocio proceduru imenovanja predsjednika? Ja ne znam za nijedno krivicno djelo koje bi bilo ucinjeno time. Njegova ustavna ovlast.ultima_palabra wrote: ↑15/12/2023 02:50
BTW, i Pence i svi republikanski guverneri i sekretari
su uradili “pravu stvar” iskljucivo zbog straha od zatvora, nema tu nikakavih ubjedjenja.
Nisam siguran. Jer upravo pise u optuznici da se raspravljalo o toj situaciji oko potpredsjednika da bi to znacilo da se ide na vrhovni sud na odluku i da bi to stvorilo okolnosti da se izbori "odlucuju na ulici".ultima_palabra wrote: ↑15/12/2023 14:05 Odbijanje da to uradi znacilo bi ometanje oficijalne procedure sto je krivicno djelo te da je dio zavjerenicke grupe kojoj se danas sudi pred federalnim sudom i u Georgiji.
Procitajte optuznicu. Veoma je zanimljivo stivo.18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2).
(c) Whoever corruptly—
(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object's integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
To je bio plan Trumpovih ljudi, ne realnost. A da je Pence odlucio biti dio tog plana samo bi sebe doveo u opasnost da zavrsi u sudnici kao sto ce Trump.Haris.ba wrote: ↑15/12/2023 14:56Nisam siguran. Jer upravo pise u optuznici da se raspravljalo da bi to znacilo da se ide na vrhovni sud na odluku i da bi to stvorilo okolnosti da se izbori "odlucuju na ulici".ultima_palabra wrote: ↑15/12/2023 14:05 Odbijanje da to uradi znacilo bi ometanje oficijalne procedure sto je krivicno djelo te da je dio zavjerenicke grupe kojoj se danas sudi pred federalnim sudom i u Georgiji.
Okolnosti koje bi bile stvorene je pitanje kako bi bile rijesene. Niko ne moze garantovati da bi Bajden zasjeo u stolicu predsjednika i imenovao njihovog glavnog tuzioca koji bi pokrenuo postupak koji je doveo do podizanja optuznice protiv Trampa.
Jeste se raspravljalo u Trumpovom okruzenju, gdje se ocajnicki trazio nacin ostanka na vlasti. Niko ozbiljan nije imao dvojbi tu.Haris.ba wrote: ↑15/12/2023 14:56Nisam siguran. Jer upravo pise u optuznici da se raspravljalo o toj situaciji oko potpredsjednika da bi to znacilo da se ide na vrhovni sud na odluku i da bi to stvorilo okolnosti da se izbori "odlucuju na ulici".ultima_palabra wrote: ↑15/12/2023 14:05 Odbijanje da to uradi znacilo bi ometanje oficijalne procedure sto je krivicno djelo te da je dio zavjerenicke grupe kojoj se danas sudi pred federalnim sudom i u Georgiji.
Okolnosti koje bi bile stvorene je pitanje kako bi bile rijesene. Niko ne moze garantovati da bi Bajden zasjeo u stolicu predsjednika i imenovao njegovog glavnog tuzioca (onoga sto republikanci nisu htjeli imenovati u vrhovni sud) koji je pokrenuo postupak koji je doveo do podizanja optuznice protiv Trampa.
Zakon na koji je sudjen upravo za tu tacku je upitno kako ce biti primjenjen.
Procitajte optuznicu. Veoma je zanimljivo stivo.18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2).
(c) Whoever corruptly—
(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object's integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/202 ... -trump-dg/A binder containing highly classified information related to Russian election interference went missing at the end of Donald Trump’s presidency, raising alarms among intelligence officials that some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
A Washington, DC, jury has ordered Rudy Giuliani to pay nearly $150 million to two Georgia election workers for the harm caused by defamatory statements he made about them following the 2020 election.
Ruby Freeman was awarded $16,171,000 for defamation and $20 million for emotional distress. Shaye Moss, Freeman’s daughter, was awarded $16,998,000 for defamation and $20 million for emotional distress. The jury also awarded $75 million in punitive damages to both plaintiffs.
