Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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#38026 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Chmoljo wrote: 01/11/2023 14:09
statixx wrote: 01/11/2023 14:06
Chmoljo wrote: 01/11/2023 13:42
I cinjenica je ko dan: Izrael je bezobzirniji prema civilima i od ruske rulje. Sto i nije cudo buduci da im je i narativ takav.
Hmmm, Izrael jeste okrutan i ocito je primarni cilj ubijanje i protjerivanje civila, ali da su Ukrajinci upali u par ruskih sela u granicnim podrucjima i napravili masakr nad civilima, Rusi bi ravnali sve sto mogu, a ovako uglavnom ravnaju mjesta koja planiraju zauzeti. Bilo je nekoliko onih upada preko ruske granice, ali civili su bili netaknuti. To je velika prednost ukrajinske vojske, plus more snimaka kako pomazu mackama i psima u nevolji. Mozda zvuci smijesno, ali sve je to dobar marketing za simpatije i pomoc Zapada.
ali i priroda sukoba je drugačija. iako jeste za teritoriju, rusi su razvili neki usiljeni narativ o nacistima da bi se uopšte ratovalo protiv ukrajinaca.

Izrael međutim arape doživljava kao strano tijelo u Izraelu. klasični rasizam.
Doživljava ih kao nešto gore od stranog tijela, kao agresivnog parazita kojeg treba istrijebiti. Ima na internetu stotine snimaka njihovih "emira" kako šire teorije o tome od kolijevke do groba - istrijebiti se mora.
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#38027 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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jeza u ledja wrote: 01/11/2023 14:04
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Moze li link za taj Haaretzov clanak?
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Komentar Haaretza na lazi hinkla.
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#38028 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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jeza u ledja wrote: 01/11/2023 14:04
arman1 wrote: 01/11/2023 13:51 Image
Moze li link za taj Haaretzov clanak?
:izet: ne moraš ga baš ubijati u pojam.
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#38029 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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To i dalje nije link na taj originalni članak nego samo na njihov tvit.

Lik je MAGA tankie, neosporno, što ne znači da video i foto materijal koji stavlja nije ono što se zaista dešava. Šta me boli kurac i što se slikao sa ruskim zlotvorom, kao da je ovaj izraelski Bibi bolji. Zapravo, vjerovatno je i puno gori s obzirom na viđeno.
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#38030 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Your time is running out!

The moment for the IDF to invade the Gaza Strip is imminent.

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We guarantee you complete confidentiality.
ovo su flajeri koje idf baca iz zraka stanovnicima gaze.
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#38031 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Fasista u elementu, obraz i dalje ne postoji.
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#38032 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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caros wrote: 01/11/2023 14:22 To i dalje nije link na taj originalni članak nego samo na njihov tvit.

Lik je MAGA tankie, neosporno, što ne znači da video i foto materijal koji stavlja nije ono što se zaista dešava. Šta me boli kurac i što se slikao sa ruskim zlotvorom, kao da je ovaj izraelski Bibi bolji. Zapravo, vjerovatno je i puno gori s obzirom na viđeno.
Ne treba nama njihov demanti, vec clanak u kojem pise ovo sto doticni twitteras tvrdi.
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#38033 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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https://n1info.ba/svijet/zapaljen-zidov ... i-krizevi/
Samo ovako danas mogu natjerati nekog jevreja da se preseli u izrael.
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#38034 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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By: Madison Czopek
November 1, 2023

A viral Oct. 28 social media post claimed that “Israel lied to justify genocide,” and cited Israeli newspaper Haaretz as evidence.

“Haaretz investigation reveals discrepancies in Israel’s reporting on October 7th death toll,” said a screenshot of a headline shared on Instagram as the first in a carousel of slides.

The second slide said a Haaretz investigation “confirmed that the klix number of casualties from the events on Oct. 7” is 900.

This post was flagged as part of Meta’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram.)


(PolitiFact)

Searching for the headline from the Instagram post turned up an Oct. 28 article on eHalal.io, the website for eHalal Group, a company that describes itself as Washington, D.C.-based and “dedicated to providing a range of services and solutions centered around the concept of halal.” Halal, in Arabic, means lawful or permitted and refers to what’s sanctioned under Islamic law.

The eHalal Group article did not link to any Haaretz stories.

Others made the same claim. Jackson Hinkle, a pro-Russia and pro-Trump social media personality, claimed in an Oct. 28 X post that Haaretz’s reporting “exposed” that Israeli officials had inflated the Oct. 7 death toll when it was actually around 900.

Haaretz reshared Hinkle’s post on X and wrote: “This post contains blatant lies about the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. It has absolutely no basis in Haaretz’s reporting, then or since.”

Haaretz is a Tel Aviv, Israel-based daily newspaper. Its website says it was founded by Zionist immigrants and has a “a broadly liberal outlook both on domestic issues and on international affairs.”

PolitiFact found no evidence that Haaretz revealed “discrepancies” in Israel’s reporting of the death toll, as the claim says. We contacted Haaretz for comment but received no reply.

In the attack’s early hours, Haaretz reported that “at least 250 Israelis were killed and over 1,600 were wounded throughout the day.” On Oct. 10, Haaretz reported that “over 900 Israelis have been killed since the initial Hamas attack.” By Oct. 11, the newspaper reported that at least 1,200 Israelis had been killed since the start of the Israel-Hamas war.

An Oct. 17 Haaretz report examined what was then known about the attack. In that story, Haaretz reported that in the first hours of the war, Hamas “had overcome barriers Israel built on the border, murdering more than 1,300 people and taking at least 199 hostages.”

Those reported casualties were similar to figures other news outlets reported:

The Associated Press reported that 1,300 Israelis were killed.
NBC News reported that 1,300 Israelis were killed, including 265 soldiers.
The Guardian reported that as of Oct. 13, 1,300 Israel residents had been killed, including almost 250 soldiers. Most of the dead were killed when Hamas attacked on Oct. 7.
The Washington Post reported that 1,400 people were killed in Hamas’ attack and 229 were taken hostage.
When searching Haaretz’s site for the 900 figure, we found a page titled “Israel’s Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hamas Attacks, Massacres and the Israel-Hamas War.”

The page lists more than 900 “officially confirmed names of Israel’s dead” from the attack on Oct. 7 “and the subsequent Israel-Hamas war.” But that page also said more than 1,300 Israeli civilians and soldiers were killed and said the list would be “continuously updated.”

Our ruling
An Instagram post claimed that a “Haaretz investigation reveals discrepancies in Israel’s reporting on October 7th death toll.”

Haaretz posted on X that the claims about its reporting are “blatant lies.”

Haaretz and other news organizations have consistently reported that during the Oct. 7 attack, Hamas killed around 1,300 Israeli residents.

We rate these claims False.
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#38035 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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arman1 wrote: 01/11/2023 14:26 https://n1info.ba/svijet/zapaljen-zidov ... i-krizevi/
Samo ovako danas mogu natjerati nekog jevreja da se preseli u izrael.
Jaraneal ozibljno i ti stvarno u to vjerujeS?
Znas da idu zidovi svake godine bez po frke i to i iz boljih uvjeta iz amerike kanade evrope, juzne amerike svake godine u izrael, na skolovanje, sluzenje vojnog, roka, sele se zbog zivota. Bez problema. Nidje veze iskerno.
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#38036 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Hvala, dakle namjerno je nasjeo na treći izvor. Ne čudi od njega, svejedno ne diskredituje klipove koje postavlja široj publici jer očigledno ima ogroman reach.
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#38037 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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sumirprimus wrote: 01/11/2023 14:23

Your time is running out!

The moment for the IDF to invade the Gaza Strip is imminent.
A gdje da bjeze ako je cilj zauzimanje cijelog pojasa.
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#38038 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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statixx wrote: 01/11/2023 14:33
sumirprimus wrote: 01/11/2023 14:23

Your time is running out!

The moment for the IDF to invade the Gaza Strip is imminent.
A gdje da bjeze ako je cilj zauzimanje cijelog pojasa.
druze ja samo prenosim info sa tvitera, otkud ja znam, nisam ja u idf stabu..
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#38039 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Jabalia refugee camp has been bombarded for a second time in less than 24 hours. On Tuesday, at least 50 people were killed in an Israeli attack, according to health officials.
The only hospital treating cancer patients has gone out of service after running out of fuel, its director says.
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#38040 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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alibegoa wrote: 01/11/2023 14:18
jeza u ledja wrote: 01/11/2023 14:04
arman1 wrote: 01/11/2023 13:51 Image
Moze li link za taj Haaretzov clanak?
:izet: ne moraš ga baš ubijati u pojam.
Nista, ko da frajer nista nije rekao. :roll:

Samo preskoci i hajmo dalje.
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#38041 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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sumirprimus wrote: 01/11/2023 14:35
statixx wrote: 01/11/2023 14:33
sumirprimus wrote: 01/11/2023 14:23

Your time is running out!

The moment for the IDF to invade the Gaza Strip is imminent.
A gdje da bjeze ako je cilj zauzimanje cijelog pojasa.
druze ja samo prenosim info sa tvitera, otkud ja znam, nisam ja u idf stabu..
Po pisanju bi se reklo da jesi. I to u nekom sektoru zaduženom za širenje propagande i pravdanje zločina
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#38042 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Nearly 3,200 Palestinian Children Killed in Three Weeks, Says Senior UN Official
https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15473.doc.htm
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#38043 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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statixx wrote: 01/11/2023 14:33
sumirprimus wrote: 01/11/2023 14:23

Your time is running out!

The moment for the IDF to invade the Gaza Strip is imminent.
A gdje da bjeze ako je cilj zauzimanje cijelog pojasa.
Pod zemlju izgleda. :roll:

I citam ovo u vezi otvaranja Rafe i stranih pasosa. Sta su cekali do sad? I zasto samo strani pasosi?
Ja fakat ne znam za primjer zemlje koja bi potpuno zatvorila svoje granice za izbjeglice u ovakvoj humanitarnoj situaciji. :-x
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#38044 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Bosanski_kralj wrote: 01/11/2023 14:37

Po pisanju bi se reklo da jesi. I to u nekom sektoru zaduženom za širenje propagande i pravdanje zločina
Damn provaljen sam, matratenu yahat! :skoljka:
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#38045 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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jeza u ledja wrote: 01/11/2023 14:39
statixx wrote: 01/11/2023 14:33
sumirprimus wrote: 01/11/2023 14:23

Your time is running out!

The moment for the IDF to invade the Gaza Strip is imminent.
A gdje da bjeze ako je cilj zauzimanje cijelog pojasa.
Pod zemlju izgleda. :roll:

I citam ovo u vezi otvaranja Rafe i stranih pasosa. Sta su cekali do sad? I zasto samo strani pasosi?
Ja fakat ne znam za primjer zemlje koja bi potpuno zatvorila svoje granice za izbjeglice u ovakvoj humanitarnoj situaciji. :-x
Pa izašao je interni papir iz izraelske vlade, potvrđen, prema kojem je cilj Gazu iseliti u Sinaj. Nije ni Egipat baš toliko sisao vesla, niti ih može primiti. Svakako je i ta država pred raspadom i uskoro je očekuje rat za vodu iz Nila.
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#38046 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Prica ide da su ameri vrsili pritisak, a da je katar posredovao, a da je najveci otpor pruzao upravo hamas, jer izlaskom drzavljana sa stranim pasosima , gube jedan od kisobrana.
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#38047 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Koljači otkrili preko 50 ulaza u tunele i večina je FAKE. Slijepa ulica i minirano. Ruska škola. Očito ovo neće ići kako je planirano.
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#38048 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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arman1 wrote: 01/11/2023 14:58 Koljači otkrili preko 50 ulaza u tunele i večina je FAKE. Slijepa ulica i minirano. Ruska škola. Očito ovo neće ići kako je planirano.
naravno jel puno pitat za izvor?
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#38049 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Pravi tuneli su samo ispod bolnica skola i izbjeglickih kampova, logy...
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#38050 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Dimu1927 wrote: 01/11/2023 15:02 Pravi tuneli su samo ispod bolnica skola i izbjeglickih kampova, logy...
Pa kad ih vec prave ima logike, zadnje sto ce napast i srusit su bolnice i to je stara prica jos od 2014 ja mislim i provaljena, pisano je i ovde o tome.
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