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- BHF_Manijak
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#70701 Re: Liverpool FC
Ma nece niko ba ljudi, sta vam je, 8 bolan dana do kraja prelaznog roka, a znate da oni po 10 dana ganjaju igraca da ga zavrse.
To je to, otislo 7 dosla 2 i po i kraj price. Imas 2 "like a new sign"-inga i udaraj se nogom u guzicu.
Liga prvaka i ove godine - zdra´o. Ikakva titula - zdra´o.
To je to, otislo 7 dosla 2 i po i kraj price. Imas 2 "like a new sign"-inga i udaraj se nogom u guzicu.
Liga prvaka i ove godine - zdra´o. Ikakva titula - zdra´o.
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#70702 Re: Liverpool FC
The Athletic:
When it became clear Fabinho was going to be sold, Liverpool’s data department started passing on information about possible replacements. The three names high on the list were Caicedo, Lavia and Aston Villa’s Boubacar Kamara.
Having considered the merits of more experienced options, Liverpool decided to push ahead with trying to secure Lavia to fill their No 6 void. They felt the price tag was inflated — Liverpool were not the only interested club to come to that conclusion — given the teenager had played just 36 senior games in his career. The hope was Southampton would cave at some point and accept a lower sum.
Liverpool’s first bid of around £37million was rejected on July 25. A week later they went back with £41million, and then followed that up with a package rising to £46million — again without success.
With Southampton refusing to budge, Liverpool took some time to consider their next move and made various approaches to assess what other options were available and at what price.
Liverpool enjoy a good rapport with Brighton. Not only had discussions for Mac Allister gone smoothly, but versatile veteran James Milner had left on a free transfer for the south coast club in June. With Brighton growing impatient with Chelsea, it was made clear to Liverpool that there was a deal to be done on Caicedo. The Ecuador international was regarded by Liverpool as a more complete player than Lavia. He was more experienced and ready to go straight into the team. Plus the possibility of reuniting him with Mac Allister was very appealing.
The unexpected £52million earned from the sales of Henderson and Fabinho to Saudi Arabia gave Liverpool the funds to attempt a club-record signing of Caicedo.
Liverpool had one bid rejected earlier in the week beginning August 7 before they pushed ahead with the club-record £111million attempt.
Matters effectively came to a head after Brighton told Chelsea and Liverpool they had 24 hours to make their best offer. It was not the same period, so it was not a race conducted to a specific time of the day. But once the two periods had ended, Brighton chose the bid closest to where they wanted it to be — Chelsea’s offer at that stage was £80million plus add-ons to take it up to around £100million, so Liverpool’s held sway.
The news broke in the early hours of August 11 that Liverpool had agreed terms with Brighton and a medical was scheduled for later the same day. No U-turn was expected.
Brighton felt Liverpool had simply outmanoeuvred Chelsea. One source, speaking anonymously to The Athletic to protect relationships, suggested Chelsea had been caught out for being too complacent — for thinking they had the player all along and did not expect any competition, even from Liverpool at the 11th hour.
Conversely, one Chelsea source revealed that the initial reaction within the club to Liverpool’s offer was that it was “insane”. Another indicated “surprise”. But at no stage was there any panic. They remained confident. While television and radio stations spoke about the development at length on Friday morning, when Klopp confirmed a fee had been agreed in his pre-match press conference, Chelsea simply reassessed what they had to do next.
Caicedo’s decision to tell Liverpool that morning that he wanted Chelsea over them was pivotal. He never even wanted to discuss personal terms with Liverpool. Brighton were aware of his stance, too. They intended to stick to their valuation of the player but they had no choice but to wait for Chelsea’s next move.
Talks duly resumed and a deal was agreed in principle on the Friday, with the broad framework of a £115million transfer discussed.
Brighton could not say no to the terms Chelsea eventually delivered: £100million, plus another £15million in very achievable add-ons and a sizeable sell-on percentage.
Senior sources at Chelsea are under the impression the salary was not a decisive factor behind Caicedo’s choice and that he would have earned around the same, if not more, at Liverpool even if the Merseyside club would not have offered an eight-year contract.
It was not just about financial gain for Caicedo. Living in London, where there is an established Ecuadorian community, appealed to the player. In his unveiling video, a picture also emerged of Caicedo with his mother wearing a Chelsea shirt back in Ecuador a few years ago — further indication this was always a decision based on what was in his heart and head.
It was Liverpool’s move for Caicedo that gave Chelsea the advantage in the Lavia pursuit. As their confidence grew over Caicedo on the Friday, so did the Londoners’ belief that they could land Lavia as well.
Southampton were delighted to have two big clubs trying to sign the teenager. Just like Brighton, they had wanted to wait for other big deals to be concluded, including that of Caicedo, in the hope it would improve their chances of securing more money for Lavia. It meant they could raise the kind of fee they had been looking for from day one. In a repeat of the Caicedo affair, Liverpool soon discovered Lavia preferred a move to Chelsea and, for a second time, had to concede defeat.
Ironically, Caicedo played a role in persuading the Belgian to join. With Chelsea already in the process of discussing terms with Southampton, Caicedo messaged Lavia making it clear how much he wanted them to play together.
Chelsea also used Caicedo’s purchase as part of their pitch. They argued the signing provided more evidence of the ambitious project upon which they had embarked. They pointed to the youth of their midfield with Fernandez (22), Caicedo (21) and Ugochukwu (19). Lavia, also 19, would not be made to feel like the youngster in the group, but would be seen on an equal footing with the chance to become a leader.
Then there was also a reassuring conversation with his compatriot Eden Hazard, who starred for Chelsea between 2012 and 2019. Just hearing what being at Chelsea and living near London was like from such an inspirational figure was reassuring even if Lavia’s heart was already set on a move to Stamford Bridge. This took place before a chat between the two was put on the Chelsea app after his official unveiling.
On the same day Caicedo’s arrival was announced, The Athletic revealed Lavia was also going to Chelsea. The fee was £53million plus another £5million in add-ons. Discussions between the two clubs went smoothly and were concluded in a day. Unlike with Caicedo, the talks took place after Chelsea had played Liverpool so there was no awkward timing to endure.
Liverpool’s urgent search for an alternative holding midfielder saw them move swiftly to sign 30-year-old Japan international Wataru Endo from Stuttgart for £16.2million ($20.6m). Reflecting on a “tricky week”, Klopp said: “When you have a problem, you can either stick to the problem or find a solution.
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#70704 Re: Liverpool FC
I evo jos jedan tekst kao dopuna ovom sto smo pricali, izgleda da i ne traze iskljucivo DM-a.
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9 'multifunkcionalnih' opcija sredine terena za Liverpool
Adam Beattie
21. kolovoza 2023
Budući da se za Liverpool kaže da je na tržištu za "multifunkcionalnog veznog igrača", a ne za broj 6, koji bi igrači mogli odgovarati od sada do kraja prozora?
James Pearce iz Athletica izvijestio je da Redsi više nisu na tržištu za defanzivnog veznog igrača nakon dolaska Wataru Endoa .
Pearce je dodao da klub umjesto toga usmjerava svoje napore na dovođenje "još jednog višenamjenskog veznog igrača" s ciljem dodavanja više svestranosti unutar opcija.
Alexis Mac Allister i Dominik Szoboszlai već su pojačali snagu na naprednijim pozicijama, ali još uvijek ima prostora za daljnji napredak nakon odlazaka petorice starijih veznjaka ovog ljeta.
Bacimo pogled na neke od igrača koje bi Liverpool mogao dodati kako se bliži ljetni prijelazni rok.
Matheus Nunes
Činilo se da je Liverpool spreman za potez za Matheusa Nunesa početkom ljeta, ali nikakav formalni pristup nikada nije učinjen unatoč stalnom interesu.
Izvještaji koji povezuju Redse s veznjakom datiraju još od prošlog ljeta , ali potpisivanjem ugovora s Mac Allisterom i Szoboszlaijem te su se priče značajno smanjile.
Igrao je u raznim ulogama u veznom redu Wolvesa i njegova bi fleksibilnost mogla biti prednost ako Liverpool želi dodati jednu prije nego što se prozor zatvori.
Luka Sučić
Luka Sučić nije ime koje bi se hvalilo u mnogim krugovima što se tiče interesa Liverpoola, ali rečeno je da je 20-godišnjak “jedna od brojnih opcija” koje se razmatraju ranije ove godine.
On je igrač koji bi vjerojatno djelovao kao zamjena Szoboszlaiju na desnom bočnom mjestu broj 8, ali Klopp bi nedvojbeno gledao može li ponuditi podršku negdje drugdje.
Poput Lindstroma, Sučić je napadački orijentiran igrač i također je malo vjerojatno da bi tražio iznuđivačku naknadu, pa je donekle iznenađujuće da nije bio čvršće povezan ovog ljeta.
Ryan Gravenberch
Ryan Gravenberch bilo je ime koje je Pearce izdvojio kao pravu opciju koju Liverpool traži za svog četvrtog regruta na sredini terena ovog ljeta.
Nizozemac je prije 12 mjeseci stigao u Bayern München iz Ajaxa s velikom reputacijom, ali dosad nije uspio napraviti utjecaj u Bundesligi sa samo 24 nastupa u svoje ime i većinu s klupe.
Gravenberch bi se mogao pozicionirano uklopiti u računicu s obzirom na to da je daleko od toga da ga se smatra stručnjakom broj 6, a Jurgen Klopp je u nebrojenim prilikama dokazao svoju sposobnost oblikovanja igrača kako bi se uklopili u njegov sustav.
Jesper Lindstrom
Liverpool je još u travnju bio "jako zainteresiran" za Jespera Lindstroma, ali od tada je bilo vrlo malo buke oko potencijalnog poteza.
Danac je prošle sezone upisao 38 nastupa u svim natjecanjima za Frankfurt i mogao bi biti dostupan za između 30 i 35 milijuna funti ako je vjerovati tim izvješćima.
Nedostatak buke sugerira da Lindstrom trenutno nije ime na radaru Redsa i da će ih njegovo relativno neiskustvo u dubokoj ulozi vjerojatno omesti u davanju konkretne ponude.
Khephren Thuram
Ime koje je pomalo iščezlo dolaskom Szoboszlaija, Khephren Thuram i dalje bi moglo upasti u profil igrača koje Liverpool traži.
Francuz obično djeluje na poziciji broj 8, ali posjeduje sve atribute koje može ispuniti kao sidro ako je potrebno.
Rečeno je da su Redsi prekinuli interes za 22-godišnjaka početkom prošlog mjeseca, ali ako klub traži svestranu opciju, on bi sigurno potpao pod taj kriterij.
Andre
Jedan igrač za kojeg se čini da je još uvijek na radaru Liverpoola je Andre, za kojeg je rečeno da ga klub još uvijek ' prati ' ranije ovog mjeseca.
Vjerojatnije je da će Brazilac postati dostupan u siječnju jer uzvratna utakmica četvrtfinala Copa Libertadores Fluminensea pada manje od 24 sata prije engleskog ljetnog prijelaznog roka.
Profilira se kao defenzivni vezni igrač, ali njegovo oko za dodavanje i sposobnost nošenja lopte lako bi se moglo iskoristiti i dalje na terenu.
Ibrahim Sangare
Ibrahim Sanage mogao bi savršeno odgovarati onome što se traži s obzirom na fleksibilnost koju je pokazao u Nizozemskoj.
25-godišnjak je sposoban igrati na poziciji broj 6, ali je također pokazao svoju napadačku moć postigavši osam golova i tri asistencije za PSV u sezoni 2022./23.
To je potpisivanje za koje je malo vjerojatno da će razbiti banku i igrač je koji bi sigurno mogao ispuniti različite uloge u Kloppovom sustavu.
Cheick Doucoure
Ime Premier lige o kojem se priča posljednjih tjedana je Cheick Doucoure, koji je Crystal Palace proglašen igračem sezone 2022./23.
Neuspjeli pokušaji da dovedu Romea Laviu i Moisesa Caiceda potaknuli su Redse da ' pojačaju ' svoju potragu za internacionalcem iz Malija, koji obično radi kao zadnji vezni za Eaglese.
Doucoure je također pokazao svoju sposobnost da izvrši ulogu broj 8, što je glavna kvačica u kutiji što se tiče "multifunkcionalnog" elementa.
Manu Kone
Postojao je konkretan interes za Manua Konea ranije u prijelaznom roku, ali to je zahladilo kada se Francuz ozlijedio na U21 Euru.
Ovaj 22-godišnjak nedavno se vratio treninzima prve momčadi s Borussijom Monchengladbach i to je možda privuklo pozornost osoblja za zapošljavanje.
Liverpool je neupitno obožavatelj Konea i već će imati sve informacije koje su im potrebne, ali formalni pristup čini se malo vjerojatnim s obzirom na nedostatak nedavnih događaja.
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#70705 Re: Liverpool FC
Slabo se nesto oise zadnjih dana, dokle je ponuda za Mbappea?
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#70707 Re: Liverpool FC
zapelo oko bozicnice i regresa kako cujem
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#70708 Re: Liverpool FC
Ali pazi ti koji su to klosari, kao sad idu izjave zainteresovani za Kamaru iz Ville, Villa rekla kao "no way", onda iz Palacea rekli da bi Doucourea prodali samo ukoliko bolesno velika ponuda dodje itd...
Pa naravno moroni, sta ste ocekivali? Da vam neko crveni tepih prostre kad dodjete i igraca u masnu upakuje? Naravno da ce napucavati cijenu. Ni ni Brighton za Caiceda rekao izvolite, vodite ga, niti Villa Grealisha, West Ham Ricea itd...
Pa naravno moroni, sta ste ocekivali? Da vam neko crveni tepih prostre kad dodjete i igraca u masnu upakuje? Naravno da ce napucavati cijenu. Ni ni Brighton za Caiceda rekao izvolite, vodite ga, niti Villa Grealisha, West Ham Ricea itd...
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#70709 Re: Liverpool FC
Sada ne mozes ni uzeti nekom igraca, malo vremena je ostalo da se taj neko snađe za zamjenu.
Ovo ce biti - krpi se do januara.
Ovo ce biti - krpi se do januara.
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#70710 Re: Liverpool FC
Ma kakav bolan januar, ti jos ludji... To ti je za ovu sezonu, sviraj kurcu. Pa ce biti iduce sezone ode Salah, mijenjaj njega sad, pa Virgila...drug_profi wrote: ↑23/08/2023 22:43 Sada ne mozes ni uzeti nekom igraca, malo vremena je ostalo da se taj neko snađe za zamjenu.
Ovo ce biti - krpi se do januara.
Ma uzasan posao rade, grozan.
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#70711 Re: Liverpool FC
Ma doće ovaj brazilac (ne mogu mu ime zapamtit) u januaru 99%BHF_Manijak wrote: ↑23/08/2023 23:16Ma kakav bolan januar, ti jos ludji... To ti je za ovu sezonu, sviraj kurcu. Pa ce biti iduce sezone ode Salah, mijenjaj njega sad, pa Virgila...drug_profi wrote: ↑23/08/2023 22:43 Sada ne mozes ni uzeti nekom igraca, malo vremena je ostalo da se taj neko snađe za zamjenu.
Ovo ce biti - krpi se do januara.
Ma uzasan posao rade, grozan.
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#70712 Re: Liverpool FC
On je umjesto Thiaga svakako planiran. I dalje si bez destruktivca i terijera u vezi.
Kad te onakav rahljav Chelsea stisnuo, zamisli sta ce jaca kakva ekipa uradit, s fizicki jakim igracima, npr. ovaj West Ham, City svakako...
Kad te onakav rahljav Chelsea stisnuo, zamisli sta ce jaca kakva ekipa uradit, s fizicki jakim igracima, npr. ovaj West Ham, City svakako...
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#70713 Re: Liverpool FC
Biće to dobro, ne sekiraj se. 40 bodova se može uzeti.
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#70714 Re: Liverpool FC
Pravo da vam recem, JWP se trebao dovesti. Jako zahvalan igrac 
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#70715 Re: Liverpool FC
Da, da, mi smo ovdje s omalovazavanjem govorili o JWPu, sanjali smo neka velika imena. Sad kurko, nogom u guzicu da se udaramo sto su bar Endu doveli.
- AmiĐa_Idriz
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#70716 Re: Liverpool FC
Romano je potvrdio kontakte sa Palaceom oko Doucourea.
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#70718 Re: Liverpool FC
Ali isto tako je CP rekao da ne daju ispod neke "nenormalne cifre".
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#70719 Re: Liverpool FC
Velika igracina Veiga potpisao za Al Ahli.
Ubise Arapi.
Ubise Arapi.
- AmiĐa_Idriz
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#70720 Re: Liverpool FC
Bio je na korak od Napolija ali Celta zatezala.
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#70721 Re: Liverpool FC
Neće se ni Muha dugo zadržati kod nas...
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#70722 Re: Liverpool FC
André itekako može igrati šesticu. Tip je kao navijen, ima odličan standing tackle, nije dominantan u zraku ali je dovoljno brz i dobro razumije prostor (najvažnije stavka po meni za tu poziciju i jedini razlog zašto su mi priče o Gravenberchu na šestici smiješne). André je hibrid Mascherana i Thiaga, ne direktna Thiagova zamjena.BHF_Manijak wrote: ↑23/08/2023 23:40 On je umjesto Thiaga svakako planiran. I dalje si bez destruktivca i terijera u vezi.
Kad te onakav rahljav Chelsea stisnuo, zamisli sta ce jaca kakva ekipa uradit, s fizicki jakim igracima, npr. ovaj West Ham, City svakako...
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#70723 Re: Liverpool FC
Neil Jones when asked if Liverpool are still looking to do more business:
"Yeah, Absolutely" - @neiljonesgoal via @TheRedmenTV
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#70724 Re: Liverpool FC
Ma to je OK, neka svako ide gdje mu je bolje. Samo bi ljudi u klubu morali imati plan i za njega i za svakog drugog igraca za slucaj da dodje neka ponuda. Prodajemo za X i za taj X mozemo dovesti tog i tog igraca kao alternativu. Na primjeru Fabinha i Hende smo vidjeli da o tome i ne razmisljaju dok se ne desi.
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#70725 Re: Liverpool FC
Zašto imam osjećaj da Salaha neće biti ovaj vikend
