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https://www.index.hr/mobile/vijesti/cla ... 35028.aspx

Izbori u usa 24-te I sranja koja ce nastati, iznenaditi ce mnoge
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... a neki se neće iznenaditi jer njih ništa iznenaditi ne može
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Kada pricamo o Ukrajini i agresiji Rusije, onda se mora razmisljarti i o Kini, koje je drugi veliki konkurent zapada. Mozda je ustvari Kina i jedini pravi konkurent zapadu, a Rusija je mozda i sporedna uloga.
Zapad je stao na stranu Ukrajine i pomogao je dovoljno toliko da Rusija nece moci da ostvari ciljeve u Ukrajini. Ono sto ja ne razumijem je koja je strategija i cilj zapada. Rusija i Kina su saveznici. Mozda je to preteska rijec, ali oni vojno saradjuju, na diplomatskom polju takodje cesto na istoj strani. Ono sto mi se cini je da sto je Rusija slabija, to ce Kina biti jaca, a razlog je taj da ce Rusija udovoljavati Kinezima vise i vise sto budu vise slabili, a slabit ce. Zasto Kina jaca? Pa zato sto ce dobivati jeftinije energente od Rusije, lakse siriti svoje interese u srednjoj Aziji, a isto tako otvara vise alternnativa Kini, kao i sto smanjuje ovisnost Kine od pojedinih drzava.

Pitanje je da li zapad zeli jacanje Kine? Mislim da ne zele. Samo je onda pitanje kako da ne ojacaju Kineze, a da u isto vrijeme oslabe Ruse? Ne vidim logiku. Fokus mi je na Kinezima, jer ja licno ne smatram Rusiju kao nekog konkurenta zapadu. Oni jesu opasni zbog atomskog oruzja koje imaju i zelje za dominacijom, ali ne mislim da imaju potencijal da vise ikad pariraju zapadu u bilo kom smislu. Kina vec taj potencijal ima....

Da se razumijemo, ako cu se kladiti, uvijek na anglosaksonce
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Diktatura komunističkog jednoumlja po uzoru na Sjevernu Koreju niko nije smio glasati protiv niti biti suzdržan, niti je bilo protukandidata,.... :-D

Jednopartijsko jednoumlje koje koje bira predsjednika države po treći put umjesto građana u 21 vijeku.
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Trebao je barem jedan protiv, radi uroka ako nista.
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https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/ulog ... /230311021

Zanimljivo da kina pomiruje muslimanske zemlje
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Jakih muslimanskih zemalja u pm
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Polako
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Pravi se pacificki nato, da sprijeci kinu u pokoravanju okolnih zemalja, ali da li ce sprijeciti da krenu na tajvan :?
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Vijetnam, Tajland ko jos? Kina ce da grohne demografski, ali mozda one neke mjere to ublaze. Jbte gledam neki dan sve skoro iz PRC-a, od igle do lokomotive, malo sta nije.
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https://apnews.com/article/china-debt-b ... d5dfbd3ed6
Countries in AP’s analysis had as much as 50% of their foreign loans from China and most were devoting more than a third of government revenue to paying off foreign debt. Two of them, Zambia and Sri Lanka, have already gone into default, unable to make even interest payments on loans financing the construction of ports, mines and power plants.

In Pakistan, millions of textile workers have been laid off because the country has too much foreign debt and can’t afford to keep the electricity on and machines running.

In Kenya, the government has held back paychecks to thousands of civil service workers to save cash to pay foreign loans. The president’s chief economic adviser tweeted last month, “Salaries or default? Take your pick.”

Since Sri Lanka defaulted a year ago, a half-million industrial jobs have vanished, inflation has pierced 50% and more than half the population in many parts of the country has fallen into poverty.

Experts predict that unless China begins to soften its stance on its loans to poor countries, there could be a wave of more defaults and political upheavals.
Inflation in Zambia has since soared 50%, unemployment has hit a 17-year high and the nation’s currency, the kwacha, has lost 30% of its value in just seven months. A United Nations estimate of Zambians not getting enough food has nearly tripled so far this year, to 3.5 million.

“I just sit in the house thinking what I will eat because I have no money to buy food,” said Marvis Kunda, a blind 70-year-old widow in Zambia’s Luapula province whose welfare payments were recently slashed. “Sometimes I eat once a day and if no one remembers to help me with food from the neighborhood, then I just starve.”

A few months after Zambia defaulted, researchers found that it owed $6.6 billion to Chinese state-owned banks, double what many thought at the time and about a third of the country’s total debt.
China’s unwillingness to take big losses on the hundreds of billions of dollars it is owed, as the International Monetary Fund and World Bank have urged, has left many countries on a treadmill of paying back interest, which stifles the economic growth that would help them pay off the debt.

Foreign cash reserves have dropped in 10 of the dozen countries in AP’s analysis, down an average 25% in just a year. They have plunged more than 50% in Pakistan and the Republic of Congo. Without a bailout, several countries have only months left of foreign cash to pay for food, fuel and other essential imports. Mongolia has eight months left. Pakistan and Ethiopia about two.

“As soon as the financing taps are turned off, the adjustment takes place right away,” said Patrick Curran, senior economist at researcher Tellimer. “The economy contracts, inflation spikes up, food and fuel become unaffordable.”
Bolje se sam ubiti nego Kinezima pare dugovati.
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Ne jebu Afrikanci više anglo-saksone ni dva posto, pa se nađe AP da sere o Kinezima i, pazi sad, jednoj trećini duga. Kome su dužni ove druge dvije trećine? Da nisu ko i Šri Lanka, investitorima američkim? Prošlo je vrijeme kada su bijeli zapadni spasitelji držali afrikance po zoološkim vrtovima. Kmečanje zapada se nastavlja :lol: :lol: :lol:

Šta kaže gospođa, dođe Amer vaziti protiv Kineza u Afriku i to radi u zgradi koju su napravili i poklonili Kinezi, do zgrade dođe cestom koju su napravili Kinezi, sleti na aerodrom koji su isto tako napravili Kinezi...

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Kakav argument nema sta. Pretpostavljam ovaj argument nije vazio za sve sto je izgradjeno tokom kolonijalnog perioda u tim zemljama.
Upravo su to projekti zbog kojih se duguju pare Kinezima. I kaze hladno “Kinezi izgradili”. Ma bravo, samo vi. :thumbup:
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Evo je opet ova Jingjing, našla nekog Afrikanca da priča o Africi, sram je bilo, a i njega...

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Znaci biglebovski je postao Čajna fan. :lol: Cudni su putevi twiterski. :sax:
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jeza u ledja wrote: 20/05/2023 15:41 Znaci biglebovski je postao Čajna fan. :lol: Cudni su putevi twiterski. :sax:
I stoji na braniku Afrike. :D
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E cuj poklonili Kinezi :lol:
Mene stid u njegovo ime…
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Ovaj gore lik je:

Kwesi Pratt Jnr
@kwasi_PrattJnr
Pan-Africanist, Nkrumist, Egyptologist, Editor -New Crusading Guide, Politician, Marxist, Ranking Member of Socialist Forum Group(SFG), Liberal Democrat.

:lol:

Tvitovi i izjave su mu pune svrsavanja na Kinu i Rusiju.
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PRC sta se tice proizvodnje :izet: i ne vadi. Lakse nabrojati sta it PRCa nije, a i to ja nemogu, barem ja nemogu. :oops:
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jeza u ledja wrote: 20/05/2023 15:41 Znaci biglebovski je postao Čajna fan. :lol: Cudni su putevi twiterski. :sax:
Lik je samo sve sto je anti zapad, anti demokratija, daj mu rusije, kine i africkih plemena. Takvo smece od komentara se srecom moze sakriti na foe.
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biglebovski wrote: 20/05/2023 14:36 Evo je opet ova Jingjing, našla nekog Afrikanca da priča o Africi, sram je bilo, a i njega...

"Used to be paradise" :lol:

Jedno se slažem. West je izgubio Afriku od Kine i Rusije. Izgubio ju je onog momenta kad u Južnoj Africi nisu pravili pro-west državu, nego čitavu državu predali crnim rasistima.
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Strasni crni rasisti koji su uveli aparthajd bijelcima i poslali ih u Bjelcostane.
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jeza u ledja wrote: 21/05/2023 14:30 Strasni crni rasisti koji su uveli aparthajd bijelcima i poslali ih u Bjelcostane.

Pa nije Apartheid. Ali nije baš da ne ubijaju farmere ili ih protjeruju. U Zimbabweu su štete u miljardama napravili bijelcima, možda i trilionima.
I ne, nije to samo prema bijelcima, isto je i crncima koji rade za bijelce.

Amerika je dole failala. Trebali su ići na podjelu država. Jedan dio crncima, drugi prozapadni dio svima.

Bolje i narodu imati 1 razvijenu državi i 1 siromašnu, nego da imaju samo 1 siromašnu.

Uostalom, sve je to historija. Dole sada imaš situaciju izrazito pro-ruski i pro-kineski nastrojen narod. Ko god je zapadnjački nastrojen se mora seliti, nema mu druge. A tu su i drugi problemi AIDS-a, korupcije, nezaposlenosti, ubistava.
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