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#161326 Re: Ukrajina

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https://www.dw.com/en/in-kyiv-domestic- ... a-62925985

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While foreign tourists have largely avoided Kyiv since the war began, domestic visitors have returned in droves.

Many Ukrainians want to go back to living normal lives, as far as is possible, and for many, that also means going on short trips and city breaks.

Organized tours of Kyiv are in great demand, though with the war still ongoing, many participants prefer routes with bomb shelters nearby, in case of emergencies.

"City tours are almost back to normal," says Kyiv guide Olena Oros. "I often have groups with up to 20 people, and special thematic tours attract even larger crowds." She says many domestic tourists now feel safe enough to visit the city and take her tours. "Refugees also join in my excursions; Kharkiv residents joined at least three of them." She even received a request to run an English-language tour from a Dutch volunteer based in Ukraine.

Ukraine tourism has developed a decidedly altruistic side. Many travel agencies and guides who continue to work are donating parts of their income to charities. Others grant special discounts to members of the armed forces, families and children.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... o-midnight
The restaurants, clubs and bars that reopened after the invasion were forced to bring forward their closing times to between 8pm and 9.30pm to allow employees to get home. Kyiv’s clubs started doing weekend day events, which start at 5pm on Fridays and 11am on Saturdays and Sundays – with large chunks of the profits donated to the army.

Last orders will soon be at about 10pm with closing time at 10.30-11pm, in another step towards the city returning to its new normal after being surrounded by Russian forces for five weeks last spring.
Ubi ih rat, moraju sad klubovi u Kijevu u 11 da imaju fajront.
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#161327 Re: Ukrajina

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geralt wrote: 18/05/2023 15:22
drug_profi wrote: 18/05/2023 15:15 Ja mislim da bi to bili prvi predsjednicki izbori u zemlji koja se brani od agresije.
Agresija u Ukrajini traje od 2014.
Ides sad u tehnikalije.
:-)
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#161328 Re: Ukrajina

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Zabrinut sam za ljucka prava građana Kijeva. Nacista zelenskij bi za to morao da snosi posljedice.
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#161329 Re: Ukrajina

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sumirprimus wrote: 18/05/2023 15:26 a gdj se tacno okuljaju u kaficima, da ti udovoljim u kijvu? i sta bi ti napravio izbore za kijv i zapadni dio? jel? zamisli izbora u slavjansku dnjipru mikolaju. aleksandrivci,avdivci, druze ne ide.elementarna logika nalaze totalna glupos i ludost. orci jedva cekaju da ih uhvate tak opustene i u grupama ionako ih nije briga ni za medjunarodnu javnost ni osude ni koji klincev vrag.. :-)
Samo bi svojoj javnosti te masakre objasnili da su nacisti bacili bombu na mirne građane, što je u suštini i istina.
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#161330 Re: Ukrajina

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Čitalac wrote: 18/05/2023 14:19 Kissinger sada kaže da je ulazak Ukrajine u NATO u interesu kako Evrope tako i Rusije te da bi to rekao i Putinu.
„Ono što Evropljani sada govore, po mom mišljenju, je suludo opasno. Jer oni kažu: Ne želimo ih u NATO, to je previše rizično. I onda ćemo ih naoružati do krajnjih granica i dati im najmodernije oružje. A kako to može funkcionisati? Ne smijemo [rat] završiti na pogrešan način. Pod pretpostavkom da će ishod rata najvjerovatnije biti negdje na liniji status quo ante, odnosno na crti koja je postojala prije 24. februara 2022. godine...Sada smo naoružali Ukrajinu do te mjere da će ona postati najnaoružanija zemlja sa najmanje iskusnim strateškim vođstvom u Evropi. Ako se rat završi onako kako se vjerovatno završava, kada Rusija izgubi mnogo svojih dobitaka, ali zadrži Sevastopolj, možda ćemo imati nezadovoljnu Rusiju, ali i nezadovoljnu Ukrajinu – drugim riječima, ravnotežu nezadovoljstva. Zbog toga je, zbog sigurnosti Evrope, bolje imati Ukrajinu u NATO-u, gdje neće moći donositi nacionalne odluke o teritorijalnim zahtjevima“, rekao je Kissinger za The Economist.

Slicno i prof. Clarke kaze u onom razgovoru za Times radio.
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#161331 Re: Ukrajina

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Ovo su zapravo pripreme za neki mirovni sporazum. Ukrajina da se odrekne neke teritorije u zamjenu za ulazak u NATO.

A što se tiče izbora, neka kažu da će izbori biti zakazani u roku od mjesec dana nakon prekida vatre, i odrzani najkasnije dva mjeseca nakon toga.
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#161332 Re: Ukrajina

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Ne vidim problem zasto ne mogu izbori, niko I ne trazi da budu odlicni, samo prolazni, a svakako bi zelenski pomeo, tako da mozda I budu :thumbup:

Kakvo je vrijeme u UA, ima li procjene kada ce krenuti, kako sam vidio ni baric nije dao nesto preciznije, mada ne trebaju zuriti I srljati, treba spremiti maximalne zalihe I onda iznenaditi orke, jer vidjeli smo kako su poceli kukati zbog ovih malih akcija oko bahmuta, mogu zamisliti kako bi kukali da krene proboj na vise mjesta po 5-6km
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#161333 Re: Ukrajina

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geralt wrote: 18/05/2023 15:34 https://www.dw.com/en/in-kyiv-domestic- ... a-62925985

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While foreign tourists have largely avoided Kyiv since the war began, domestic visitors have returned in droves.

Many Ukrainians want to go back to living normal lives, as far as is possible, and for many, that also means going on short trips and city breaks.

Organized tours of Kyiv are in great demand, though with the war still ongoing, many participants prefer routes with bomb shelters nearby, in case of emergencies.

"City tours are almost back to normal," says Kyiv guide Olena Oros. "I often have groups with up to 20 people, and special thematic tours attract even larger crowds." She says many domestic tourists now feel safe enough to visit the city and take her tours. "Refugees also join in my excursions; Kharkiv residents joined at least three of them." She even received a request to run an English-language tour from a Dutch volunteer based in Ukraine.

Ukraine tourism has developed a decidedly altruistic side. Many travel agencies and guides who continue to work are donating parts of their income to charities. Others grant special discounts to members of the armed forces, families and children.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... o-midnight
The restaurants, clubs and bars that reopened after the invasion were forced to bring forward their closing times to between 8pm and 9.30pm to allow employees to get home. Kyiv’s clubs started doing weekend day events, which start at 5pm on Fridays and 11am on Saturdays and Sundays – with large chunks of the profits donated to the army.

Last orders will soon be at about 10pm with closing time at 10.30-11pm, in another step towards the city returning to its new normal after being surrounded by Russian forces for five weeks last spring.
Ubi ih rat, moraju sad klubovi u Kijevu u 11 da imaju fajront.
vako se i u tuzli izlazilo. citav rat. do jednom :-)
a linija bila 16 kilometara od nas
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#161334 Re: Ukrajina

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drug_profi wrote: 18/05/2023 15:37
sumirprimus wrote: 18/05/2023 15:26 a gdj se tacno okuljaju u kaficima, da ti udovoljim u kijvu? i sta bi ti napravio izbore za kijv i zapadni dio? jel? zamisli izbora u slavjansku dnjipru mikolaju. aleksandrivci,avdivci, druze ne ide.elementarna logika nalaze totalna glupos i ludost. orci jedva cekaju da ih uhvate tak opustene i u grupama ionako ih nije briga ni za medjunarodnu javnost ni osude ni koji klincev vrag.. :-)
Samo bi svojoj javnosti te masakre objasnili da su nacisti bacili bombu na mirne građane, što je u suštini i istina.
bili tu, dozivjeli isto srnje. :-)
sami sebe gajdali
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#161335 Re: Ukrajina

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U RUsiji je u ovoj godini bilo 57 sabotaza diljem zemlje ne ukljucujuci sabotaze u okupiranim dijelovima ukrajine. Cetvrtina svih su bile u Maju. Ukri udaraju po svim frontovima i napadaju rusku infrastrukturu. Ne gadjaju ih projektilima ali im sabotiraju industriju i zeljeznicu.
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geolocirano.
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#161337 Re: Ukrajina

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opa :shock:

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Širina trake proboja bila je 2000 m, a dubina 700 m.

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#161338 Re: Ukrajina

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madner wrote: 18/05/2023 14:45 Samo da se ispricam svim nizerazrednim kolegama, nisam tu do nedelje.

Mogu preporuciti neko stivo za one sto bi da napreduju, ali malo je takvih.
drži se ruske literature da nam ne bude dosadno :thumbup:
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#161339 Re: Ukrajina

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apsidejzi wrote: 18/05/2023 16:20 U RUsiji je u ovoj godini bilo 57 sabotaza diljem zemlje ne ukljucujuci sabotaze u okupiranim dijelovima ukrajine. Cetvrtina svih su bile u Maju. Ukri udaraju po svim frontovima i napadaju rusku infrastrukturu. Ne gadjaju ih projektilima ali im sabotiraju industriju i zeljeznicu.
Rusima tek sad pocinje dolaziti u glavu koliko im stete moze nanijeti ukrajinski GUR. Bukvalno milioni Ukrajinaca mogu biti potencijalni agenti u Rusiji, jer tecno i bez naglaska govore ruski, poznaju kulturu, ne isticu se fizicki... Povrh toga jos milioni Ukrajinaca odavno zive i rade u Rusiji, plus sto ima radikalnih ruskih opozicionara koji ce im se rado pridruziti i pomoci im, a vecina ruskih policajaca i sluzbenika ce uzeti mito i okrenuti glavu.

Nema te kontaobavjestajne sluzbe koja ih od toga moze zastititi, a Budanov i ekipa se tek zagrijavaju. Bice atentata, sabotaza i eksplozija po Rusiji u narednim mjesecima i godinama jos deset puta vise nego dosad.
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#161340 Re: Ukrajina

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Puni video 3ce sturmbrigade azov u bahmutu
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#161341 Re: Ukrajina

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u spojleru link za dobar tekst za nas drugoligaše i trećeligaše o FR-IT SAMP/T sistemu zemlja-zrak
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#161342 Re: Ukrajina

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Ista vijest ko kod sanskog , gdje ima dimaima i vatre. Sta kazu propala kontra ukra skroz :mrgreen:
Ima i gore kaze grdno ih nalupalo :mrgreen:
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#161343 Re: Ukrajina

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Potvrda dolazi tek u nedelju. :)
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#161344 Re: Ukrajina

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jednonogi_Jack wrote: 18/05/2023 17:41 Potvrda dolazi tek u nedelju. :)
a sve kasni do 48 sati ...

ovo je juce stanje na juznom boku koje je i Wagner potvrdio...

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#161345 Re: Ukrajina

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madner wrote: 18/05/2023 14:45 Samo da se ispricam svim nizerazrednim kolegama, nisam tu do nedelje.
8-) ...pozdravi rodbinu i prijatelje u velikoj i maloj Rusiji
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#161346 Re: Ukrajina

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sumirprimus wrote: 18/05/2023 17:36
Ista vijest ko kod sanskog , gdje ima dimaima i vatre. Sta kazu propala kontra ukra skroz :mrgreen:
Ima i gore kaze grdno ih nalupalo :mrgreen:
ima ima uzeto neko selo Sakko i Vantsetti čime je UAF izašao na put TO513
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#161347 Re: Ukrajina

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i dok Mordor remontuje T-55-ice in mean time Norway 12 points :D


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#161348 Re: Ukrajina

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sumirprimus wrote: 18/05/2023 17:36
Ista vijest ko kod sanskog , gdje ima dimaima i vatre. Sta kazu propala kontra ukra skroz :mrgreen:
Ima i gore kaze grdno ih nalupalo :mrgreen:


ovi su zarobljeni juce ili prekjuce na ovoj lokaciji u ili ispod plave kruznice

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a ovaj frisko zarobljen (jedan od samo 4 koje su zarobili ) ova zadnja operacija sto javljaju juce ili danas, u biti mape koje imamo ne prate stvarno stanje na terenu ima tu jos jedan prodor sa sjevera prema Soledaru koji je tek poceo samo Wagner javlja ostali jos cute...



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#161349 Re: Ukrajina

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JoseMujica wrote: 18/05/2023 17:46
ima ima uzeto neko selo Sakko i Vantsetti čime je UAF izašao na put TO513
I Prighozin je potvrdio.

:D

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#161350 Re: Ukrajina

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SanskiBiser wrote: 18/05/2023 17:44
jednonogi_Jack wrote: 18/05/2023 17:41 Potvrda dolazi tek u nedelju. :)
a sve kasni do 48 sati ...

ovo je juce stanje na juznom boku koje je i Wagner potvrdio...

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Men' se čini da nisi skontao. Prva liga potvrđuje. :)
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