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Maliodmene
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#132151 Re: Ukrajina
Mozda i uspiju ovu paniku iskoristit za prelazak na drugu stranu
- geralt
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#132152 Re: Ukrajina
Nadam se da je Ukrajincima ostalo municije za Grad, Uragan i Smerch sisteme, te da su ih dovukli do Hersona. Jesu smece za HIMARS, ali su za ovu situaciju idealni. Jos ako imaju termobaricne municije za zarobljene TOS-1A, ih.
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Osmi Socrates
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#132153 Re: Ukrajina
Ne vjerujem da su ni Ukrajinci ni Amerikanci išta čvrsto obećavali.
Možda su Rusi zamislili da jesu, kao što zamišljaju svašta od početka ovog rata. U svakom slučaju, okupatoru koji ama baš nikakvog obzira nije imao kad je bio jači treba i lagati.
Sve dok ne nauče da se zločini nad Ukrajincima vraćaju stostruko, promjeniti se neće. Pritom i mislim na običnog ruskog čovjeka, a ne na ruske vođe, jer ruskim vođama i nije baš pretjerano stalo do bilo čijih života.
Možda su Rusi zamislili da jesu, kao što zamišljaju svašta od početka ovog rata. U svakom slučaju, okupatoru koji ama baš nikakvog obzira nije imao kad je bio jači treba i lagati.
Sve dok ne nauče da se zločini nad Ukrajincima vraćaju stostruko, promjeniti se neće. Pritom i mislim na običnog ruskog čovjeka, a ne na ruske vođe, jer ruskim vođama i nije baš pretjerano stalo do bilo čijih života.
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Osmi Socrates
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#132154 Re: Ukrajina
I da dodam, jer nisam odavno, sad je vrijeme da se NATO uključi i završi ovaj rat. 
- geralt
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#132155 Re: Ukrajina
Ako je neko od Rusa bio toliko glup da pokusa preplivati Dnjepar, to mu je bila zadnja odluka u zivotu. Na trenutnim temperaturama, smrt od hipotermije nastupa nakon 3-4 minute.
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Handbanana
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#132156 Re: Ukrajina
Ovi rusi prave tako nelogicne poteze da ih je tesko predvidjeti po konvencinalnom nacinu. Normalna vojska bi ucinila sve da se izvuku i ljudstvo i tehnika a po nekim twiterashima moguce da nisu rekli svim jedinicama na frontu kad i kuda da se izvlace?!
Mozda su cak i Ukri bili sumnjicavi jer ide ono "da sam ja na njihovom mjestu napravio bih kakvu klopku" ali to vazi za sposobnu komandu. A Surovikin je skoro postavljen i cini se uveo je nekog reda i ima neki plan za dugorocnu odbranu osvojenog, medjutim i ovo povlacenje iz Khersona pocinje da izgleda kao tipicna ruska posla.. Nikakav genijalni plan/klopka, niti dogovor iza kulisa. Na kraju ce povlacenje proglasiti velikim uspjehom..
Mozda su cak i Ukri bili sumnjicavi jer ide ono "da sam ja na njihovom mjestu napravio bih kakvu klopku" ali to vazi za sposobnu komandu. A Surovikin je skoro postavljen i cini se uveo je nekog reda i ima neki plan za dugorocnu odbranu osvojenog, medjutim i ovo povlacenje iz Khersona pocinje da izgleda kao tipicna ruska posla.. Nikakav genijalni plan/klopka, niti dogovor iza kulisa. Na kraju ce povlacenje proglasiti velikim uspjehom..
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Dado dijasporitus
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MoodSwingeR
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#132160 Re: Ukrajina
Ruski milbloggeri:
Oružane snage Ukrajine ulaze u Kherson.
Antonivskyi most miniran pri povlačenju.
Očekuju se stravične scene sa svitanjem i posljedična reakcija ruske javnosti.
I naravno, malo glasina da su AFU uvelike na lijevoj obali...
Oružane snage Ukrajine ulaze u Kherson.
Antonivskyi most miniran pri povlačenju.
Očekuju se stravične scene sa svitanjem i posljedična reakcija ruske javnosti.
I naravno, malo glasina da su AFU uvelike na lijevoj obali...
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Mason74
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#132163 Re: Ukrajina
Ma samo rokaj, cuj usli Ukrajinci u Ruski grad Herson 
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sumirprimus
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#132164 Re: Ukrajina
Sta sam reko , nece im ukri nikad halalit ilovajsk i slicne. Sta žuka dogovorgeralt wrote: ↑11/11/2022 01:45 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk
Sve se vraca, sve se placa.The Battle of Ilovaisk started on 7 August 2014, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine and pro-Ukrainian paramilitaries began a series of attempts to capture the city of Ilovaisk from pro-Russian insurgents affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and detachments of the Russian Armed Forces. Although Ukrainian forces were able to enter the city on 18 August, they were encircled between 24 and 26 August by overwhelming Russian military forces that crossed the border, joining the battle. After days of encirclement, Ukrainian commander Yuriy Bereza came to an agreement with Russian commanders in Ilovaisk to allow Ukrainian troops to withdraw from the city. However, this agreement was not honored by the Russian side who opened fire on the evacuating Ukrainian soldiers, many of whom died whilst trying to escape.
Idemooooo
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sumirprimus
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sumirprimus
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#132167 Re: Ukrajina
Sta žuka dogovor, alaa su se dogovorilidrug_profi wrote: ↑11/11/2022 00:41Bitno je da si ti razrijesio. Ja (mi) nismo ni imali dilemu.
Sve sto se događalo je sasvim logicno.
Nema hrane, goriva, pojacanja... ide zima. Po noci oka ne mozes sklopiti.
Snihurivka pala u vojnickom nadjebu. Danima se prica o povlacenju, a isti dan objavljeno zvanicno da se povlace.
I sta ce ostali garnizoni u Hersonu onda uraditi?
Panicno se povuci da ne ostanu zadnji, jer je palo jako uporiste koje stiti cijelu liniju, a istovremeno znas da nece doci pojacanje jer pocinje povlacenje.
Ruse mostove preko rijeka i potoka da kupe vremena da ih Ukrajinici ne mogu stici.
Ukrajinici ne deru barze jer nece duse djece i civila na svojim plecima.
Ali deru mjesta okupljanja vojske na lijevoj obali, jer civili su vec otisli svojim putem.
Previse trosis ruske medije.
Nije nemoguce da se desi neki dogovor, ali kako vidimo do sada Ukrajinci nisu ni malo glupi, a sada nije vrijeme da oni popustaju pritisak.
Ja mislim da slijedi i bitka svih bitaka do kraja godine. Zaporozje, Melitopol, Mairupol-Berdyansk. I rušenje Krečkog mosta ponovo.
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sumirprimus
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#132168 Re: Ukrajina
- dr_Evil
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#132169 Re: Ukrajina
Rat kartama, Bosna all over again. Ljudi ginu dok neki sta im se vise ne dize u pozadini crtaju "mirovne" karte. Cim ko imalo dogovore neki moguci rasplet pomice se vojska. Mes cini da Nevenka Tromp i napisa knjigu o tome.
- SanskiBiser
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#132170 Re: Ukrajina
Tom Cooper FB
By now it seems the Russians are really withdrawing from the western side of Dnipro.
Cannot but admit: that was very hard to believe at first, because the Russians are not withdrawing from anywhere voluntarily, and there was more than enough Ukrainian overoptimism (and Russian panic) by now. For me, it was only once Shoygu made his announcement that thing began to clear: it wasn’t his order, only Vlad can make decisions of that kind: but, he’s never going to make that in the public. Thus, once again, Shoygu had to play a scapegoat (which is his duty, anyway).
....guess, one can interpret this as a confirmation for the condition of the Russian Armed Forces being worse than concluded on basis of social media reports: they’re really in tatters and all the 70,000-90,000 reservists rushed to the frontlines the last month have achieved is to, once again, overload the logistic system of the VSRF...
12,000-15,000 Russian troops should be withdrawing from Kherson City, another 5,000-7,000 from the Beryslav area - and mostly by boats because none of bridges is left intact and ferries ard all heavily shelled.
I agree with those who are assuming that they‘ll have to leave behind all of their heavy weapons.
Ukrainians are cautiously following - and already approaching Kherson (city). But, foremost acting with artillery: seeking an opportunity to convert this affair into a rout...
BTW: rumors along which Ukrainians should be crossing the Dnipro.... sorry, no way. It is very likely that their special forces and Guerilla have reinforced their campaign of ambushing Russians in southern Zaporizhzhya, though.
....just don’t want to think about all the bestialities committed by the Russians, in Kherson and oblast around it - and which are going to become known in the coming days and weeks: hope, the thug responsible for handing over the city to Vlad‘s hordes is going to be brought to justice.
....the only thing really funny to watch will be Vlad spinning his story ever further in the coming days: after all, he has surrendered something he declared - even if not clearly defined - for a part of the Russian Federation to ‚Satanist LGTBs on Dope‘....
....and it will be even funnier to watch all the ‚distinguished‘ Russian generals babbling about ‚honourable‘ achievements of their Dirlewangers. I’m already looking forward for appearances of the super-though Surovikin-a...
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Ima Bosne_Bice Bosne
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#132171 Re: Ukrajina
Bossona wrote: ↑10/11/2022 17:04 Manite se teorija zavjere o dogovorenoj bježaniji rašista iz Hersona i hersonske oblasti. Rašisti su izgubili rat, u toku je raspad vojske i bježanija obezglavljenih, poraženih i poniženih okupatora i njihovih sluga.
Zapad i NATO članice povećavaju vojnu pomoć i podršku Ukrajini.
- Capajebo
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#132172 Re: Ukrajina
Ima li kakvih novosti iz hersona, neki snimak ili nesto? Jesu li ušli već u grad? 
- madner
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#132173 Re: Ukrajina
Najavili povlacenje prije istog. 
- apsidejzi
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