Ukrajina

[sumirprimus]

Danad je lajkujme imao izlaganje vezano za jug i mogucnost napada. moze se desiti da ce doci do toga. Imam osjecaj d aje u posljednjih nekoliko dana opsec ukrajinaca sa tog i zaporoskog bojista.informacija ima malo ili nimalo. Znamo prosli put sta je bilo kada su nedostajale informacije i s asjever ai sa juga

Na jug se napad ceka mjesecima ali je arestovic juce reko jednu stvar, rat staje par mjeseci nakon sto padnu luganjsk ili donjeck.zamislit se sta ukri planiraju

[zilog]

Stranice i stranice teme potrosene na zabrinutost hoce li Rusi baciti nuklearku na Ukrajinu, vise nego sami Ukrajinci.
Zabrinuti bi to rijesili, obustavom slanja oruzja i prisiljavanjem Ukrajine da prihvati gubitak dijela teritorije.

Isto kao da zele sprijeciti silovanja - zabranom prodaje kratkih suknji...

razmatranje svih opcija ne mora imati nikakakve veze sa "zabrinutima",
to uostalom trenutno rade sve bitne službe po svijetu.

Nisam pisao kao odgovor na tvoj post.

[Honda Rajvosa]

Danad je lajkujme imao izlaganje vezano za jug i mogucnost napada. moze se desiti da ce doci do toga. Imam osjecaj d aje u posljednjih nekoliko dana opsec ukrajinaca sa tog i zaporoskog bojista.informacija ima malo ili nimalo. Znamo prosli put sta je bilo kada su nedostajale informacije i s asjever ai sa juga

Na jug se napad ceka mjesecima ali je arestovic juce reko jednu stvar, rat staje par mjeseci nakon sto padnu luganjsk ili donjeck.zamislit se sta ukri planiraju

To je ono sto je lajkujme danas postavio.napad na donjeck i lugansk linijom sjever jug a ne direktno na istoku. S tim da taj napad sa juzne strane ukljucuje i napad od zaporozja prema mariupolju, melitpopolju i berdjansku...

[sime_cipol]

"Dječurlija" na temi su oni koji isključuju mogućnost upotrebe nuklarnih bombi od strane Rusije i Putina,
naivno i dobrodušno poimanje svijeta.

prvi i najvažniji preduslov je mogućnost totalnog vojnog poraza i gubitak Krima i istoka.
do te tačke nismo još došli.

a slažem se sa upisima da je dosta za danas i da se posvetimo stanju na frontu.

Gluposti.

U najgorem slucaju, Rusi se mogu povuci kompletno iz Ukrajine i proglasiti neku medijalnu pobjedu, te poslati nekih par hiljada ljudi u gulag koji budu protestovali protiv povlacenja. NATO bi im kao znak dobre volje mogao i ukiniti dio sankcija, i ondauz pomoc jake propagande, business as usual.

Koristenje nuklearnog oruzja bi za Putina bilo previse nepredvidivo. Previse dobro zive da bi rizikovali status quo.

To se moze desiti samo bez Putina. Da li prirodnim putem ili nasilno, svejedno.

[sumirprimus]

Zanimljive slike sa isturenog komandnog mjesta sa operacije harkiv obllast

[Dimu1927]

Jest neko I ruse zavalio u ovoj procjeni..

Za nepovjerovat kako su mislili da ce ih ukri docekat spustenih gaca... najebase im se mile majke....

Ne razumijem samo sta misli Putler da ce dobit ako rokne takticku?

Zar misli da mu prvi kinezi ne bi odmah rat objavili?

ma kakvi neskolovani nato generali sve je to putin smislio da izmori ukrajince i istrosi nato kapacitet i onda ide juris na berlin za 3 sedmice sa elitnim snagama

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Ogavno,
Putleri njegovi ideolozi zla su poslali svoje nesretnike u osvajački agresorski rat pa ih mrtve jedu svinje.

ogavno ? prije bih rekao prikladno sa agresorsku gamad

nece svi zavrsiti ko suncokret, neki ce zavrsiti kao hrana za stoku

[Optimus Prime]

Gluposti.

U najgorem slucaju, Rusi se mogu povuci kompletno iz Ukrajine i proglasiti neku medijalnu pobjedu, te poslati nekih par hiljada ljudi u gulag koji budu protestovali protiv povlacenja. NATO bi im kao znak dobre volje mogao i ukiniti dio sankcija, i ondauz pomoc jake propagande, business as usual.

Koristenje nuklearnog oruzja bi za Putina bilo previse nepredvidivo. Previse dobro zive da bi rizikovali status quo.

To se moze desiti samo bez Putina. Da li prirodnim putem ili nasilno, svejedno.

Ja cak vjerujem da se i Putin moze odrzati na vlasti cak i u ovakvom scenariju. Il barem otici u egzil na neku egzoticnu destinaciju i uzivati u milijardama dolara koje je pokrao od ruskog naroda.

Tu opciju nece imati ako upotrijebi atomsko oruzje, a sanse da on i cjelokupno familija budi likvidirani ili da provedu zivot 200 m ispod zemlje postaju onda prilicno visoke.

[SanskiBiser]

Ukraine War, 29 September 2022
Once again, just a short one, focusing on south-eastern-most Kharkiv Oblast.

(For this, I am offering my apology for all the readers that are serving with the ZSU on other frontlines: I’m not ignoring you, just too busy to cross-check all the related reports, and don’t want to provide misinformation.)

Today I’ll keep zip-lip regarding the ZSU’s bridgehead in the Kupyansk area, too. Sufficient to say the hodgepodge of battered and freshly-mobilised Russian units there is ‘in deep trouble’, and that as far away from Kupyansk as to, say, ‘area between Arapivka, Volodymyrivka and Kuzemivka’.

Instead, let me go over to the situation further south.

The ZSU has entered Pidlyman on the Oskil, and there’s bitter fighting almost everywhere between the centre of that village and Shyikivka, in eastern Borova.

East of Borova, Ukrainians seem to be ‘somewhere between Kopanky, Pershotravneve, and Proletarske, though not in control of either, and I’m not sure if they got there from the west, south, or southeast. Mind: it is possible that this manoeuvre was, ‘actually’, a ‘reaction’ to some of the developments further south.

The reason I’m not sure is that Olhivka seems to still be contested, or even a target of a Russian counterattack that’s meanwhile going on for something like 24 hours — while RUMINT has it that Ukrainians are already in Makiivka, seven kilometres further east.

This would make sense, not only because it would mean that most of what used to be the column visible on this video from 15 September is no more (easy conclusion, based on all the photos and videos of VSRF’s tanks and other mechanised vehicles captured in the Pisky-Radkivski area, the last few days): foremost because counterattacking ‘down the road’ from, say, Pershotravneve and Proletarske on Olhivka, would be something even the VSRF’s reservists could do, and it would threaten to cut off Ukrainian troops in Makiivka — If they’re already there.





As reported earlier, Shandryholove, Ridkodub, Katerynivka, Nove, Zelena Dolyna are all liberated, and Ukrainians have liberated Kolodyazi, too, but then the Russians counterattacked from around Neveske and Terny in that direction (i.e. from north-east). The place appears to have been contested as of early this morning. That said, the Russians then reported the presence of strong Ukrainian forces less than 3,000 metres north of Zarichne — and sorry, but: 3,000 metres north of Zarichne is Kolodyazi. Right now, can’t say if one or another source simply missed something (say: didn’t know about a possible counterattack from north-east) or whatever, but, if not, then that’s likely to mean their counterattack fell apart.

A lil’ bit of analysis for the end: in the social media everybody seems to be waiting for the Russians in Lyman to give up: to surrender or just run away. Others can’t wait for Ukrainians to get bogged down in the mud — or to run out of steam or out of supplies…

Originally, I expected Lyman to be liberated this week: meanwhile, I doubt this is going to happen. Putin’s ‘no step back’ seems to be taken seriously enough by all the VSRF’s commanders. From what I ‘read between the lines’ of all the available reports the Russians have rushed whatever reinforces they could scratch together to the Svatove area, and from there to Kopanky, Proletarske and Olhivka. Yes, the troops in question are all reservists without any kind of training, and poorly equipped, but there are so many of them, I expect them to keep Ukrainians busy for 2–3 days — at least. Perhaps even longer. Foremost: it’s not like all of them ‘can’t fight’ or would be running ‘human wave’ attacks (of which Ukrainians have seen 2–3, the last few days), but it takes time to shot them away (or to take them prisoners), and there’s always the Russian artillery around, too.

Bottom line: unless that situation — on the northern flank of Ukrainian advance — is ‘solved’, I do not expect anything to happen in Lyman, i.e. in regards of Dibrova, Torske and Zarichne. The reason is the steady flow of Russian reinforcements from Alchevsk and Luhansk via Severodonetsk to Kremina, then Zarichne. Right now, Ukrainians do not have the artillery necessary to interdict this.

….and that in turn means that the Russians are going to continue ‘pumping’ reinforcements into Lyman — and that regardless what kind of massive losses are they already suffering while trying to move these along the Lymanska Vulica: that’s the road connecting these three places, and it is already heavily mined and under both Ukrainian artillery fire and direct fire.

Ah yes, and a ‘disclaimer’ for the end: mind that on a map all of this looks ‘very close’, and ‘flat’, and ‘lots of space to manoeuvre’, and ‘easy’. Check a topographic map of this area. The terrain is ‘broken’, there are lots of minor lakes, marshes, reservoirs, and minor rivers in between of lots of villages. Theoretically, yes: ‘ideal for defence’. If the Russians wouldn’t be in a state of chaos, this would be very hard for the ZSU to liberate.

[zilog]

Samo jos nesto da napisem u vezi tog famoznog bacanja neklearki na Ukrajinu, da ostane zapisano.

Da, postoji mogucnost da Putler naredi bacanje nuklearki na neke ciljeve u Ukrajini i postoji mogucnost da ruska vojska nekako sprovede tu naredbu.
I da, to je prilicno lose za Ukrajinu i okruzenje, sta god se nakon toga desilo.

Mnogo losiji scenario je da se popusti Putlerovim ucjenama i prijetnjama, prije nego od sebe, pred ocima cijelog svijeta, napravi nuklearnim teroristom. Uvijek bi pogao ponavljati lazljivu mantru, da ne bi nikad to ucinio. Isto kao sto je 24.02. svijet prozreo ruske lazi, da ne namjeravaju napasti Ukrajinu.

[Honda Rajvosa]

Trenutno Dejan Beric je u nekom lajvu sa nekim amerikancem. koga zanima evo link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHr0XmBxOpg

[emirolini]

Ma kakva nasa drzava da pohapsi i protjera Rusisticko fasisticke cetnicke diplomate kada se pusti liku sa nickom djeneral Ratko - na forumu Bosansko Hercegovackog portala…

Za Nuklearke, Ukrajina ima puno pravo da cuva svoj teritorijalni integritet i u slucaju takvog napada, sa istom mjerom. Sudbina Putka je kao i djenerala Sratka je da truhne u svom smradu, a digitalni Sratko neka malo skonta, kada vec nece neko hoce neko drugi.

[emirolini]

Sta li je ovo sad...

[emirolini]

[emirolini]

Orci iz Yampila

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[skrbavi-admin]

Sta li je ovo sad...

sutra ona pizda objavljuje aneksiju - eto sta.....

[Čitalac]

Reznikov smatra da bi se Lukašenkova armija uglavnom predala.

Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov believes that Belarusian soldiers have no motivation to enter the war with Ukraine, and if ordered by their authorities to fight, they would lay down their weapons.

In his opinion, the level of propaganda in Belarus is much lower than in Russia, so "the effect of brainwashing is less."
"I do not understand what should motivate Belarusians to consciously go to war with Ukraine, kill and die for it is not clear why. Even if they are officers who, under oath, are obliged to follow orders, and allegedly go on the attack with their units. And who guarantees that those units, when they cross the Belarusian border, will not raise their hands, will not lay down their arms and will not say "Ukrainians, you are not enemies"?
According to the minister, Belarus's entry into the war would mean "just turning on the third Lend-Lease to the Ukrainians and giving us Belarusian weapons."
"Therefore, let's put it this way, there is a risk, but I would not exceed its level. It seems to me more that the head of Belarus is looking for a balance. On the one hand, he needs to demonstrate to the patron [Vladimir Putin] that he seems to be somehow with him. But on the other hand, Lukashenko understands that this may be his final, too," Reznikov added.
At the same time, he noted that there is "always a danger of an offensive from Belarus", since the Ukrainian-Belarusian cordon reaches 1200 km and in February there was already an invasion from here by Russian troops, planes, rocket attacks are still continuing, etc. Nevertheless, it was not recorded that "a large number of Belarusian soldiers" took part in the war.

[zigzag]

Sta li je ovo sad...

sutra ona pizda objavljuje aneksiju - eto sta.....

Da nisu u pitanju životi vlastitih vojnika...

Uskočiti u neki manji gradić preko ruske granice i najaviti referendum za pripajanje Ukrajini.

[CrveniKuk]

Čo’ek se demobilisao.

[RunnerX]

Crnogorci im ga junački zaboli

[costacurta]

Čo’ek se demobilisao.

Čuj demobilisali ga

[Crvene_brigade]

Ostali su samo dugmići...

[black64]

neki lajv onog dekija sto se bori na strani orka

[sumirprimus]

[zigzag]

Ostali su samo dugmići...

Zna li ko šta sad rade ovim "demobilisanim" rusima? Nije ih malo a trenutno su u zoni borbenih dejstava. Ranije su ih stavljali u vozove hladnjače a sad je to ipak daleko za transport.

[Crvene_brigade]

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