Ukrajina

[drug_profi]

Ovog je dokacila artiljerija izgleda negdje dok se kurcio.

[sumirprimus]

Nista dok gonza ne stigne karma

[splinter]

Ako je bilo Izvinjavam se.

[sumirprimus]

Nadam se da nece obeshrabrit borisa naprotiv sad treba jos vise pojacat isporuke

[sumirprimus]

Epp brazilci eminem ukrajina

[sumirprimus]

Evo ga onaj momak roman sto je poginuo u istoj jedinici sa starim znamcem debeljkom iz 93

[karanana]

Ako je bilo Izvinjavam se.

mislim da nije bilo.

[sumirprimus]

Dakle sastank je sutra

[drndalo]

Ukrajina je do sada dobila tek 10 odsto od traženog naoružanja, kažu u Kijevu.

Ukraine’s deputy defence minister says her country has received only 10% of the arms it requested from western allies, and is warning that unless those countries step up their support the war against Russia will be lost.
In televised remarks on Tuesday, Hanna Malyar repeated a plea made regularly by Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy for the US, the UK, European and other global allies to send more military aid, AFP reports:
- From what we said we need, we got about 10%. No matter how hard Ukraine tries, no matter how professional our army is, without the help of western partners we will not be able to win this war.
Malyar said there needed to be “a clear timeframe” for such deliveries as every delay risked more territory falling into Russian hands:
- We need to know clear deadlines because every day there’s a delay, we’re talking about the lives of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians.
We can’t wait very long because the situation is very complicated.

Kako cemo kvantifikovati to sto su trazili 400% vise nego su i sanjali da ce dobiti u toj jednacini...?

[drug_profi]

Ja fakat ne znam sta to nisu isporucili. Koliko pratim dobili su preko 250K granata i oko 100 cijevi 155mm
40K jurisnih pusaka. Desetine miliona sitne municije, po 5K Javelina, Stingera, hiljade NLAW... pa onda ove malo starije sisteme tipa Fagot, Milan i sl...
200 tenkova... oklopnih vozila stotine, SAM sistema, ruskih haubica, MLRS sisteme, radara vakih-nakih...migova, suhoja...
Mozda je malo njima, ali je to jedna dobra armija... a stici ce jos.

[drndalo]

Nadam se da nece obeshrabrit borisa naprotiv sad treba jos vise pojacat isporuke

Voistinu se nadam da si sta popio...?

Cujes li da Borisu “sta puca”...? Zezu na stranu, Bokiju je to win-win situacija. Ako lih spasu kao zarobljenike +, ako ih pogube kao sto prijete, opet + jer onda ponovo dokazuju kakvi su zlocinci, time opravdavajuci jaci angazman kontra...

[BiBi911]

Pa pricaj bona, osim ako nije pomoc rujama to ni mrtvi, inace pomoci te ti ovde mnogi samo reci sta treba

Ma povezano je s ulogom i utjecajem drustvenih medija kao javnog prostora za plasiranje i sirenje informacija u ratnom sukobu, i utjecaj na primatelje informacija. Znaci nekada si u klasicnom novinarstvu imao ratno izvjestavanje sa prilicno malo informacija (jer nisu bile dostupne zbog tradicionalnog nacina prikupljanja), vijesti su stizale jako sporo i bilo je vise prostora za uskracivanje informacija (ne ubrajam vojne tajne).
Danas imas drust. Mreze kojima svako u svako doba ima pristup i plasira informaciju momentalno.
Fokus nije na laznim vijestima i medijskom ratu, nego na nacinu komunikacije laika, medija i sluzbenih osoba i institucija na twitteru i to uz analizu odabranih twitter naloga. Odnosno, nacin na koji obznanjuju vijest, fokus u vijestima, ucestalost, tocnost, recentnost
Za vise, javite se u pp

10% od zarade I svi ti pomognemo. Ne moze dzabe, ne pomaze ti ni to sto si zeMsko

[emirolini]

[sumirprimus]

U prevodu uskoro zavrsavaju obuku na himars.. sto ce reci, a sada spetakl

[drndalo]

Nista dok gonza ne stigne karma

Doskora je to bilo tesko za ocekivati jer je izgleda isao kao TikTokovci tamo gdje zgrade ne znaju uzvratiti...

Sada kad su i zgrade pocele uzvracati, mrka mu je kapa... A i teze ce biti naci mjesto gdje je siguran da moze biti “ratnik” a da ga nista ne snadje...

[madner]

Ova povlacenja u industrijske zone treba malo preispitati. Skup ceh bude.

[SanskiBiser]

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/sve- ... /220615001

Sve podsjeća na Azovstal: Rusi pozvali Ukrajince da predaju fabriku Azot u Sjevernodonjecku

ono kad Rusi cuju od zapadnih medija i analiticara da kontrolisu 70% Sjeverodonjecka pa pozovu Ukrajince na predaju O ovome je Tom Cooper pisao neki dan...

Severodonetsk….can’t help it, I’m going to remain in disagreement with the mass of other commentators and different experts: yes, Ukrainians — foremost 79th Airborne Assault and the Foreign Legion (British, Brazilians etc.) — have entrenched themselves inside the Azot Works and the Industrial Zone, but when the Russians start using Western reports about ‘holding 70% of the town’, one knows ‘what’s the time’, i.e. reality. Namely, the fact that Ukrainians have entrenched themselves in one part of the town doesn’t mean the Russians have ‘automatically secured the rest’. On the contrary, Metolkine, (at least) the northern side of the airport, and the northern side of Syrotne remain under Ukrainian control. The centre of the town and the southern side of the airport are no-man’s land, and everything is densely shelled by the Russians (seems, they do not pay much attention about many of civilians still there actually being on their side)…

[sumirprimus]

Генеральний штаб ЗСУ
@GeneralStaffUA

Ukraine government organization
"Понад 45 країн зібралися разом у Контактній групі з питань оборони України, щоб оцінити останні оборонні потреби України та надати допомогу. Вони роблять все, щоб зміцнити Україну на полі бою і за столом переговорів. Ми - разом з Україною."
https://bit.ly/3xRS1wg
Translated from Ukrainian by
"More than 45 countries have gathered together in the Contact Group on Ukraine's Defense to assess Ukraine's latest defense needs and provide assistance. They are doing everything to strengthen Ukraine on the battlefield and at the negotiating table. We are together with Ukraine."
7:27 AM · Jun 15, 2022

idemo sada gospodo, jako , najjace, gas gas

[emirolini]

Генеральний штаб ЗСУ
@GeneralStaffUA

Ukraine government organization
"Понад 45 країн зібралися разом у Контактній групі з питань оборони України, щоб оцінити останні оборонні потреби України та надати допомогу. Вони роблять все, щоб зміцнити Україну на полі бою і за столом переговорів. Ми - разом з Україною."
https://bit.ly/3xRS1wg
Translated from Ukrainian by
"More than 45 countries have gathered together in the Contact Group on Ukraine's Defense to assess Ukraine's latest defense needs and provide assistance. They are doing everything to strengthen Ukraine on the battlefield and at the negotiating table. We are together with Ukraine."
7:27 AM · Jun 15, 2022

idemo sada gospodo, jako , najjace, gas gas

BH sa municijom

[madner]

Rusi ne tvrde da drze 70%, nego da je UA jos samo u industrijskoj zoni.
Po video zapisima, to bi moglo biti tacno, nisam vidio stambene zgrade odavno.

[sumirprimus]

In the Bakhmut direction, the enemy shelled our positions in the areas of Spirny, Yakovlivka, Pokrovsky, Klinov and Novolugansk.

Thanks to the actions of our soldiers, the enemy's offensive in the area of Mykolaivka was choked. The enemy suffered losses and retreated.

[sumirprimus]

Rusi ne tvrde da drze 70%, nego da je UA jos samo u industrijskoj zoni.
Po video zapisima, to bi moglo biti tacno, nisam vidio stambene zgrade odavno.

cinjenica je da se jos rokaju u sd.

[sumirprimus]

DEFENSE

Armed drones for Ukraine? Not so fast.
Training and logistics are complicating the possible sale of U.S.-made Gray Eagles to Kyiv.
By LARA SELIGMAN and PAUL MCLEARY

06/14/2022 02:39 PM EDT

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The Biden administration is wrestling with logistical and training issues as it weighs selling armed drones to Ukraine, two U.S. officials tell POLITICO, as leaders in Kyiv plead for the advanced weaponry amid Russian battlefield advances.
Even if the sale of four MQ-1C Gray Eagle drones goes through in the coming weeks, Ukrainian soldiers likely wouldn’t be able to use the systems on the front lines for weeks, maybe months, two DoD officials and experts said.
The potential move, which was first reported by Reuters, is not yet final, and could still be blocked by Congress or halted by a last-minute policy change. The issue continues to be discussed at the Pentagon and White House as new shipments of weapons and military aid are being planned and prepared in the coming weeks and months.

The possible sale of the Gray Eagles, the Army’s version of the better-known Reaper, represents a new chapter in arms deliveries to Ukraine and could open the door to sending Kyiv even more sophisticated systems. The Gray Eagle would be a significant leap for the embattled Ukrainians because it can fly for up to 30 hours, gather vast amounts of surveillance data, and fire precision Hellfire missiles. The system is also reusable, unlike the smaller Switchblade loitering munitions the U.S. has already sent to the front lines.

But training to operate the system typically takes months to complete, depending on what sensors and weapons packages are included, the two DoD officials said. The Gray Eagles are much more complex to operate than the smaller, short-range drones the Ukrainians currently operate, explained Dan Gettinger, an expert with the Vertical Flight Society.

Gray Eagles also require extensive ground infrastructure, including landing strips, and secure communications links and equipment, Gettinger said. It’s not clear where Ukraine would base the drones or the pilots, but the operators could theoretically fly them from outside Ukraine if they have access to satellite communications, he said.

The U.S. has more than 200 MQ-1s in storage that could go to Ukraine, said David Deptula, dean of the Mitchell Institute of Aerospace Power Studies and retired Air Force three-star general. He advocates declaring the drones excess to U.S. military needs and sending them to Kyiv “as soon as possible along with the appropriate weapons to arm them.”

“The gradualism that the Biden administration is following in arming Ukraine is hindering their defense,” Deptula said.

It’s possible the training could be condensed for Ukraine’s urgent needs. General Atomics manufactures Gray Eagles and company spokesperson C. Mark Brinkley insisted the training could be completed within weeks.

“The simple answer? Very quickly. Weeks, not months. The Ukrainians are very committed and very talented,” Brinkley said.
Deptula agreed that training could be boiled down to 4-5 weeks.

“The Russian-Ukraine war will go on far longer than originally anticipated, so there is plenty of time for training to effectively operate these aircraft,” Deptula said.

The fact that the deal is a foreign military sale, not a transfer from the presidential drawdown fund, also could hold up the process. Foreign military sales require official requests and are subject to approval by the State Department. They also require notification to Congress, which has 30 days to object.

[sumirprimus]

penzic? duboka rezerva? ha bub

[sumirprimus]

ruska invazija u ukrajini do posljednjeg burijat kako se vec zovu, dagestanca, cecena i ostalih manjina