Ukrajina
- drug_profi
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#82351 Re: Ukrajina
Ma nisu budale da sebi ostavljaju katila na vratu.
Imas sad priliku da zavrsis tu pricu, a ocito se glavnom gazdi dopala ideja o "Izraelu na Crnom moru".
I ja msilim da je to JEDINI modus opstanka Ukrajine kao nacije. Tu nema mjesta za kompromise. Rusija ce sada slabiti i propadati. Mozda Krim nece biti moguce vratiti 2022. ali ce biti moguce u nekom skorijem periodu kad Rusija ne bude mogla da zavede red ni u Moskvi.
Oni sami iz Hersona, Berdjanska i Mariupolja neće otići.
Treba im potpaliti vatru pod nogama.
I treba ih unistavati bez milosti u tom procesu.
Imas sad priliku da zavrsis tu pricu, a ocito se glavnom gazdi dopala ideja o "Izraelu na Crnom moru".
I ja msilim da je to JEDINI modus opstanka Ukrajine kao nacije. Tu nema mjesta za kompromise. Rusija ce sada slabiti i propadati. Mozda Krim nece biti moguce vratiti 2022. ali ce biti moguce u nekom skorijem periodu kad Rusija ne bude mogla da zavede red ni u Moskvi.
Oni sami iz Hersona, Berdjanska i Mariupolja neće otići.
Treba im potpaliti vatru pod nogama.
I treba ih unistavati bez milosti u tom procesu.
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- exliberal-ex
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#82352 Re: Ukrajina
Nije bas ni ukrajina nevina. Velika.razlika izmedju.ukrajine I rusije sto iza ukrajine.stoji skoro cijeli zapadni medisjsi aparatus koji je veoma uspjesan u sirenju njihove.verzije istine.geralt wrote: ↑02/05/2022 02:00zilog wrote: ↑02/05/2022 01:10doslo se do, "bolje sto godina primirja, nego dan rata"SpoilerShow
"Nisu znali za Moskvu", "nisu znali za generale", "rekao im NATO", "nato im daje oruzje", kmee, kmee...
Dakle, narativ se mijenja.
Od:
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Mozda i jeste, ali kremaljski kepec sigurno ne bi sjedio i uzivao u primirju. Cekao bi da se skinu sankcije, odradio novu turu podmicivanja, otrovao, ili ubio Zelenskog i burgijao da na njegovo mjesto dodje neki novi Janukovic i onda, za koju godinu, napao ponovo...
Naivna budala, ili bezobrazni provokator, je svako, ko misli drugacije...![]()
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Zaboravlja se da je Ukrajina vec probala sa primirjima i dogovorima sa Rusijom, i to ne jednom vec dvaput. Prvi put je 1994. Rusija dala casnu pionirsku da ce postovati granice Ukrajine i da je nece napadati. Trajalo je 20 godina. Onda su Rusi opet potpisali mir u Minsku 2015., trajalo je 7 godina. Matematickim nizom, sljedece primirje bi trajalo 2,5 godine.
- drug_profi
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#82353 Re: Ukrajina
Koja je verzija istine kad se fikne avio bomba na pozorište prepuno civila, sa jasnim natpisom DJECA?exliberal-ex wrote: ↑02/05/2022 02:08Nije bas ni ukrajina nevina. Velika.razlika izmedju.ukrajine I rusije sto iza ukrajine.stoji skoro cijeli zapadni medisjsi aparatus koji je veoma uspjesan u sirenju njihove.verzije istine.geralt wrote: ↑02/05/2022 02:00
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Zaboravlja se da je Ukrajina vec probala sa primirjima i dogovorima sa Rusijom, i to ne jednom vec dvaput. Prvi put je 1994. Rusija dala casnu pionirsku da ce postovati granice Ukrajine i da je nece napadati. Trajalo je 20 godina. Onda su Rusi opet potpisali mir u Minsku 2015., trajalo je 7 godina. Matematickim nizom, sljedece primirje bi trajalo 2,5 godine.
Koja je verzija istine kad spremiš Iskander u stambeno naselje?
Koja tačno verzija istine stoji iza vezanih likivdiranih civila, iza silovane djece, i žena?
Koja tacno istina je iza ove vijesti:
zato zašuti i ne traži zločincima opravdanja!
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Ermin ZM
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#82354 Re: Ukrajina
@Blooexliberal-ex wrote: ↑02/05/2022 02:05Hm sta twk onda.reci.za.amere?drug_profi wrote: ↑02/05/2022 00:36
Se*eš bate. Ne valja ti agenda.
Ruse treba izgazati nogama ko žohare, jer su na tom nivou humanosti.
Sefice evo ga opet pocinje oftopicarit. Tema je Ukrajina a ne Amerika.
I sudeci po pisanju koju vise popio
- drug_profi
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#82355 Re: Ukrajina
Nemjerljivo i neuporedivo.exliberal-ex wrote: ↑02/05/2022 02:05Hm sta twk onda.reci.za.amere?drug_profi wrote: ↑02/05/2022 00:36
Se*eš bate. Ne valja ti agenda.
Ruse treba izgazati nogama ko žohare, jer su na tom nivou humanosti.
Kao da poredis zlocine ARBiH sa zlocinama VRS.
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Bossona
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#82356 Re: Ukrajina
Putin je uduplao Hitlera za samo dva mjeseca!
Gradonačelnik Mariupolja: Putin je za dva mjeseca ubio dvostruko više stanovnika Mariupolja nego što je Hitler ubio tokom dvogodišnje nacističke okupacije grada. Trenutni broj poginulih u Mariupolju procjenjuje se na 20.000 civila u poređenju sa 10.000 mrtvih tokom Drugog svjetskog rata
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#82357 Re: Ukrajina
Rijetko vidjeno preslusavanje, i to jos na Happy-ju. Kad vidjeh voditeljicu, rekoh vidi dziberke svega mi, djevojka jos skroz profesionalna ispade, a Darko terorista, ubi sErpske kvazi-intelektualce svega mi… Sve kulturno, ali do balcaka…
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toska
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#82358 Re: Ukrajina
Današnja evakuacija manje grupe civila, navodno 20:
trenutno stanje u Azovstalu, ima i svježih video zapisa:
trenutno stanje u Azovstalu, ima i svježih video zapisa:
- ultima_palabra
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#82359 Re: Ukrajina
Pa nije ih jednom poredio.drug_profi wrote: ↑02/05/2022 02:15Nemjerljivo i neuporedivo.
Kao da poredis zlocine ARBiH sa zlocinama VRS.
- geralt
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#82360 Re: Ukrajina
Ne zaboravimo ni to da je Zelenski u onih par mjeseci pred invaziju konstantno skoro pa molio Putina da se sastanu i razgovaraju.
Sada ostaje samo da se sade suncokreti i pojacavaju sankcije dok Putin ne pocne moliti za sastanak.
Sada ostaje samo da se sade suncokreti i pojacavaju sankcije dok Putin ne pocne moliti za sastanak.
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chupacabra
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#82361 Re: Ukrajina
Kako je ono bilo, Uspavani Joe, Senilni Joe, a Joe jebe i još pita treba li još. 
- House
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#82362 Re: Ukrajina
samo USA i UK.
mi znamo šta je pomoć od strane EU. bolje sebi prosvirati mozak
mi znamo šta je pomoć od strane EU. bolje sebi prosvirati mozak
- House
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#82363 Re: Ukrajina
još će prodati rusku imovinu u USA i tim novcem finansirati ukrajinuchupacabra wrote: ↑02/05/2022 04:17 Kako je ono bilo, Uspavani Joe, Senilni Joe, a Joe jebe i još pita treba li još.![]()
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Juliuscezar
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#82366 Re: Ukrajina
Biden je bio jedan od rijetkih u 90-im koji nam je svim srcem htio da pomogne. Ima njegov govor o Bosni u americkom senatu na YouTube, dijeljen je negdje na forumu. Ono nije odglumljeno ni sekunde, ciste emocije.chupacabra wrote: ↑02/05/2022 04:17 Kako je ono bilo, Uspavani Joe, Senilni Joe, a Joe jebe i još pita treba li još.![]()
Sad se historija ponovila, a on je ovaj put u prilici da ucini nesto vise od drzanja govora. I to i radi.
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sumirprimus
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#82367 Re: Ukrajina
Ok je to sve, ko gubi ima pravo da se ljuti
Nego dobar tred generala hertlinga
GEN Valery Gerasimov was appointed Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces & First Deputy Defence Minister by Putin on 9 November 2012.
In other words, he has been the counterpart of our Chairman of the Joint Staff for 10 years!
The #1 guy in RU's military. 2/
Izdvojeno
As I've said on @CNN & in these tweets, Ukraine's Army has been learning the concept of "mission command" during training w/ US and NATO forces over the last few years.
Mission command is tough, the US military struggles with it at times, but it's required! 8/
It dates back to Helmuth von Moltke, Chief of the Prussian General Staff during the Franco-Prussian War.
It was called "Auftragstaktik." It described how subordinates took action in the absence of orders ...actions that support intent.
Mission command comes from that. 9/
US doctrine defines MISSION COMMAND as "the exercise of authority & direction by the commander using mission orders to enable disciplined initiative within the commander's intent to empower agile & adaptive leaders in the conduct of unified land operations."
Long sentence. 10/
Our doctrine teaches commanders & subordinates to build battlefield relationships centered upon seven principles of mission command:
Competence
Mutual trust
Shared understanding
Commander's intent
Mission orders
Disciplined initiative
Risk acceptance with mitigation. 11/
Additionally, leader development requires commanders "build their bench."
That is, ensure they take time in ensuring their are those on their team who can "take over" if someone is killed or injured on the battlefield.
(See Mel Gibson's scene in "We Were Soldiers....") 12/
From my limited observations of the Russian Army, they have no clue how to do this.
At the senior, middle, or junior level.
The result is indiscipline and chaos when someone is killed or injured and removed from the field. 13/
Ukraine's army has transformed in the last 15 years.
They realize casualties occur on the battlefield, and junior leaders step up to maintain the initiative.
This is another area where the UA outshines the Russian army. 14/
A final thought.
This morning I saw people discussing on the internet how some of these "tips" on twitter provides Russian info that would help them "fix" their mistakes.
Yeah, that won't happen. Their culture is flawed.
So don't worry about "tips." 15/15
Nego dobar tred generala hertlinga
GEN Valery Gerasimov was appointed Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces & First Deputy Defence Minister by Putin on 9 November 2012.
In other words, he has been the counterpart of our Chairman of the Joint Staff for 10 years!
The #1 guy in RU's military. 2/
Izdvojeno
As I've said on @CNN & in these tweets, Ukraine's Army has been learning the concept of "mission command" during training w/ US and NATO forces over the last few years.
Mission command is tough, the US military struggles with it at times, but it's required! 8/
It dates back to Helmuth von Moltke, Chief of the Prussian General Staff during the Franco-Prussian War.
It was called "Auftragstaktik." It described how subordinates took action in the absence of orders ...actions that support intent.
Mission command comes from that. 9/
US doctrine defines MISSION COMMAND as "the exercise of authority & direction by the commander using mission orders to enable disciplined initiative within the commander's intent to empower agile & adaptive leaders in the conduct of unified land operations."
Long sentence. 10/
Our doctrine teaches commanders & subordinates to build battlefield relationships centered upon seven principles of mission command:
Competence
Mutual trust
Shared understanding
Commander's intent
Mission orders
Disciplined initiative
Risk acceptance with mitigation. 11/
Additionally, leader development requires commanders "build their bench."
That is, ensure they take time in ensuring their are those on their team who can "take over" if someone is killed or injured on the battlefield.
(See Mel Gibson's scene in "We Were Soldiers....") 12/
From my limited observations of the Russian Army, they have no clue how to do this.
At the senior, middle, or junior level.
The result is indiscipline and chaos when someone is killed or injured and removed from the field. 13/
Ukraine's army has transformed in the last 15 years.
They realize casualties occur on the battlefield, and junior leaders step up to maintain the initiative.
This is another area where the UA outshines the Russian army. 14/
A final thought.
This morning I saw people discussing on the internet how some of these "tips" on twitter provides Russian info that would help them "fix" their mistakes.
Yeah, that won't happen. Their culture is flawed.
So don't worry about "tips." 15/15
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sumirprimus
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#82368 Re: Ukrajina
Hoce reci dosts toga su ukri usvojili od zapdanjaka i amera za ove godine, za razliku od ruja. I tu je glavn arazlika i stanje na terenu. Malo se kredita daje Ukr vojsci.
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sumirprimus
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#82369 Re: Ukrajina
Kazu ukr avioni letili iznad belgoroda sinoc. Imaju i snimci detonacija.
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sumirprimus
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#82370 Re: Ukrajina
I roblee javlja isto
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sumirprimus
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#82371 Re: Ukrajina
Da li je neko prenio info koji se juce pojavio da putler mora na operaciju a kontrolu preuzima petrusev? Na osnovu obajvestajnih izvora sto ce reci nepotvrdjeno ali bi objasnilo dosta toga.
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Mrljavi
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#82372 Re: Ukrajina
Bajram serif mubarek olsun svima, posebno nasem Senadu u Ukrajini.
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sumirprimus
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#82373 Re: Ukrajina
Ukr int. Negira da he gerasimov ranjen. Prenosi osint def na teiteru
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sumirprimus
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#82375 Re: Ukrajina
Ko god slavi , Bajrambarećula svima na temi 

