Ukrajina

[Maliodmene]

Pa mozes li mi sada odgovoriti kako mislis da je kontraofanziva u ta tri mjesta gdje bukvalno drze Ruse u poluokruzenju laz?

[Piaty]

Taj gradic je na samom sjeveru kod granice s Bjelorusijom nesto kao Capljina i Metkovici razmak.

Tu Ukrajinci nisu vrsili nikakve kontranapade nemoj lagati Kiki.

Kontre su isle sjeverno i Juzno od Cherniva ali da je ovo problem jeste.
Zasto nije bilo otpora Ukrajinaca je veoma veoma cudno samo su se usetali Rusi bez ispaljenog metka.

Jel to strategija ili slabost vidjecemo.

Kontre su nazalost fantazija, bez ijednog validnog dokaza.

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Predaja Slavujca bez borbe je los znak jer sada moze uslijediti domino efekat. Upravo sam pogledao video, veca grupa ukrajinskih vojnika se predala na tom dijelu ratista. Rusi ce to maksimalno eksploatisati u propagandnom ratu koji je u danasnje vrijeme veoma vazan.

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Sto se tice blizine granice, pa blizu je herojski Sumi, ljudi pruzaju fantastican otpor. Tamo su Rusi bas dobili po zubima iako je grad na samoj ruskoj granici, blize nego Slavujc.

Sta tebi ti znaci "nazalost"?

Koliko ja vidim, tebi ne izgleda nista zalosno tu, naprotiv.

Gdje su vojnici koji se predaju? Koji video?

[Nadzornik]

Zar se nisu mogli povuci i izbjeci opkoljavanje...

[Kikibombona]

Pa mozes li mi sada odgovoriti kako mislis da je kontraofanziva u ta tri mjesta gdje bukvalno drze Ruse u poluokruzenju laz?

Zato sto ne vidim nijedan dokaz kontraofanzive.

A Rusi su u ta tri mjesta ODUVIJEK u poluokruženju. Pa to je valjda osnovna logika. Radi se o KLINU prema Kijevu, okolo su Ukrajinci.

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Belaj za Ruse bi bio ako bi recimo Ukrajinci zauzeli Cernobil i aerodrom Hostomel, to bi bilo okruzenje i krajnje gadna situacija.

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Imas kod Aldina na tviteru, Rusi su objavili da su zarobili veliki broj vojnika u mjestu Mykolaivka, koja je prilicno zapadno od Irpina i Buche. Pogledaj na Google map.

[madner]

Lazu svi, recikliraju stare snimke kao nove uspjehe. Nista cudno, sta je ovdje neznalica sto nisu u stanju prihvatiti osnove iz knjiga.

[Blitz1]

Ima li zime Marinko?
Zima zima jašta je

Spoiler

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[Blitz1]

Oružane snage oslobodile su istočno predgrađe Harkova - Mali Rohan. Treća sila

[Kikibombona]

Sta tebi ti znaci "nazalost"?

Koliko ja vidim, tebi ne izgleda nista zalosno tu, naprotiv.

Gdje su vojnici koji se predaju? Koji video?

Ne znam sta vidis niti je to vazno.

Ja cu se prvi obradovati kada Ukrajinci natamburaju ruska govna. Ja sam, za razliku od mnogih, uvijek i svugdje na strani slabijih. S druge strane, neki svrsavaju kada Turci masakriraju Kurde, a vamo satro zale za Ukrajincima. Zapravo, ne vole oni Ukrajince NI MRVICU vec mrze Ruse. Ja razliku ne pravim, zato pojedini forumasi kazu da vazda podrzavam gubitnike, ne znajuci da sam svjesno na strani slabijih koji su mozda gubitnici (kratkorocno) ALI svakako moralni pobjednici.

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Ne pada mi na pamet postavljati snimke ukrajinskih heroja u nepovoljnom polazaju. Ko zeli vidjeti pravu sliku rata, pravo stanje na terenu, mora pratiti aktiviste obe strane. Ako pratis samo jednu kreirat ces laznu sliku stanja na terenu.

[Blitz1]

Ma to mi radi bebo



Operativna grupa Jug

[Kikibombona]

Lazu svi, recikliraju stare snimke kao nove uspjehe. Nista cudno, sta je ovdje neznalica sto nisu u stanju prihvatiti osnove iz knjiga.

Naravno da lazu, propagandni odsjeci rade punom parom.

Jedino sto se ne moze slagati je zauzimanje nekog veceg mjesta. Ne moze se plasirati vijest da je pao Sumi ako nema video zapisa kao potvrda. A tviter ekipa sve brzo geolocira...

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Iako ne vidim da se do sada desilo, misljenja sam da je sansa za ukrajinsku vojsku, da ostvari ofanzivno potencijal, upravo zapad Kijeva i juzno prema Hersonu. Zapad drzave je slobodan, imaju prostor da pripreme ofanzivne jedinice. Ako bi, recimo, izbacili Ruse sa zapada Kijeva to bi bio ogroman motiv za cijelu ukrajinsku armiju u nastavku rata.

[Novosti]

Slava Ukrajini

[Nadzornik]

Jutrić, orke padaju s neba

Ukrajinski SU-27 oboren 5.3.2022...

[Novosti]

Čudno neka mjesta padaju bez otpora, dogovor UA-Rusi ili Zeleni-Botox?

[mousstapha]

Ja sam, za razliku od mnogih, uvijek i svugdje na strani slabijih.

A na avataru ti predsjednik najmocnije drzave na svijetu

[Alternative777]

A sinčina od Bajdena se dobro obogatio u Ukrajini. Sve slabići i ugrožen svijet. Ko Kurdi

[Piaty]

Sta tebi ti znaci "nazalost"?

Koliko ja vidim, tebi ne izgleda nista zalosno tu, naprotiv.

Gdje su vojnici koji se predaju? Koji video?

Ne znam sta vidis niti je to vazno.

Ja cu se prvi obradovati kada Ukrajinci natamburaju ruska govna. Ja sam, za razliku od mnogih, uvijek i svugdje na strani slabijih. S druge strane, neki svrsavaju kada Turci masakriraju Kurde, a vamo satro zale za Ukrajincima. Zapravo, ne vole oni Ukrajince NI MRVICU vec mrze Ruse. Ja razliku ne pravim, zato pojedini forumasi kazu da vazda podrzavam gubitnike, ne znajuci da sam svjesno na strani slabijih koji su mozda gubitnici (kratkorocno) ALI svakako moralni pobjednici.

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Ne pada mi na pamet postavljati snimke ukrajinskih heroja u nepovoljnom polazaju. Ko zeli vidjeti pravu sliku rata, pravo stanje na terenu, mora pratiti aktiviste obe strane. Ako pratis samo jednu kreirat ces laznu sliku stanja na terenu.

O.k, slazem se.

Posteno i lijepo receno.

Za Mustafu, taj predsjednik sa slike je na strani naroda koji se bore za slobodu i demokratiju. Ispadoh jos portparol kikibomboni

[zigzag]

Zar se nisu mogli povuci i izbjeci opkoljavanje...

Načekali su se da se predaju. Mjsec dana rusu obilaze ovo naselje a nikad navalit.

[SanskiBiser]

Jel bilo?


Bayro dolazi po duše za čistilišta

Ovo je snimak iz rata u Nagorno Karabahu, prijavljen post...

[Kikibombona]

Ja sam, za razliku od mnogih, uvijek i svugdje na strani slabijih.

A na avataru ti predsjednik najmocnije drzave na svijetu

Zaboravio sam ko mi je na avataru, na tel ne u ocavam.

Iako i dalje postujem Bajdena jer se u mnogim slucajevima zalagao za slabije, moram istaci da sam razocaran sto nije uradio vise da se sprijeci krvoprolice u Ukrajini. Opravdanje trazim u njegovim godinama i odsustvu nekadasnje energije.

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I promijenio sam avatar.

Vrijeme ce pokazati da ce covjek sa moga avatara u narednih 20 godina postati lider slobodnog svijeta. Upamtite moje rijeci.

[Blitz1]

Ove Orke ko kobre, il leže il bježe

[Nierika]

Summary from the General Staff on 12:00:


- subdivisions of Belarus army are put out in points of permanent deployment on proving grounds;

- the enemy tried to move to the center of Mariupol;

- In Donetsk Region Russians tried to storm in Novobahmutivka direction but failed. Our fighters reflected the storm of Novomayorsk and offense on Krasnohorivka;

- occupants' main efforts are concentrated on seizing Popasna and Rubizhne, and preparing to offense Severodonetsk;

- Ukraine's main efforts are to not allow movement of occupants to Kryvyj Rih, Zaporizhzhia and the defense of Mykolaiv, control of the seaside, security and defensive objects of critical infrastructure and liberation of temporarily occupied territories;

- defense measures are held at seaports of the Black Sea.

[Maliodmene]

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/borr ... /220326039


To bi bilo to, Rusi mogu u kameno doba

[Naslovnica]

Summary from the General Staff on 12:00:


- subdivisions of Belarus army are put out in points of permanent deployment on proving grounds;

- the enemy tried to move to the center of Mariupol;

- In Donetsk Region Russians tried to storm in Novobahmutivka direction but failed. Our fighters reflected the storm of Novomayorsk and offense on Krasnohorivka;

- occupants' main efforts are concentrated on seizing Popasna and Rubizhne, and preparing to offense Severodonetsk;

- Ukraine's main efforts are to not allow movement of occupants to Kryvyj Rih, Zaporizhzhia and the defense of Mykolaiv, control of the seaside, security and defensive objects of critical infrastructure and liberation of temporarily occupied territories;

- defense measures are held at seaports of the Black Sea.

Jedna priča kako se oslobađa Herson, a onda priča o odbrani Mikolaiva?
Ne kontam, može li pojašnjenje od upućenijih?

[japin_mutapi]

Raspad sistema kod rusista. Ukrajinci tek počeli ofanzivno djelovati. Stigli novi bajraktari i američki dronovi kamikaze, ukopavanje ne pomaže, artiljerija izložena i mora se pomjerati i povlačiti.
Rusisti bez hrane, goriva, oružja, municije, lijekova.
Ruska faza 2,3,4, plan d - hemijsko oružje, na tebe je red.

[SanskiBiser]

Evo vam Tom Cooper danasnji report.

Let's title this one, 'Plan E'...
Began writing the following yesterday, primarily to address the question, ‘are the Russian armed forces underperforming – and why?’
This morning, I have a feeling this write-up was ‘overrun by developments’ – though also confirmed to the last dot and comma, and that by nobody less than the latest press conference of the Keystone Cops in Moscow of the last evening. Namely, they have announced that ‘now’ the RFA is to concentrate on the situation in eastern Ukraine.
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The answer is my favourite: ‘yesno’.
Keep in mind that everything a military force does is what its political masters equip, train, and order it to do. If orders of political masters are realistic, the military force is – usually – successful. If not, then not. In this regards there’s next to no difference between democracies and dictatorships – except that in democracies the politicians might be more likely to listen to the advice of their generals. In a dictatorship not only are generals unlikely to properly advise the dictator (for the fear of being ‘removed’), but even the best intelligence service cannot supply a correct assessment of the situation.

In the case of the RFA in Ukraine, matter of fact is that there is only one person determining its military objectives: that is the Fool in Kremlin. Therefore, Putin is the primary culprit for the failure and underperformance of the RFA. He is the secondary culprit, too, for it was his responsibility to take care the RFA to be properly equipped and trained, indeed: reformed and re-armed, the last 20 years. Fact is: it wasn’t, because Putin’s mafia-styled regime is as corrupt and as incompetent as it is. Indeed, Putin’s regime sacked even its own members the moment they began complaining about corruption. Unsurprisingly, the Russian Armed Forces simply couldn’t perform as expected.
Why is all of this important? Because Putin started this war to avoid accountability for all of his own failures of the last 22 years. Not because of ‘NATO’s expansion’ or whatever other kind of nonsense. The aim was to sack Ukraine and thus prevent it from joining the NATO and then the EU; prevent Ukraine from developing democracy and thus having a 'negative' (for Putin) influence upon Russia.
But, I’m digressing… Point is this: Putin ordered Ukraine to be overrun within three days. For this task, Shoygu deployed about 70% of available VDV- and Spetsnaz units, more than half of the Rosgvardia and a brigade of Kadyrov’s Chechens. The VDV and the Spetsnaz are the ‘elite’ of the RFA: definitely best-paid, supposedly best armed- and trained units, too. Rosgvardia and Chechens are comparable to a combination of Waffen-SS, Hitlerjugend, IRGC, and Gestapo: incompetent on military plan, but well-armed and more trusted by Putin than the RFA (so much so, Rosgvardia is nowadays responsible for protection of all the strategically important installations in Russia and occupied parts of Ukraine, including nuclear facilities).

Plan A
Putin’s Plan A was to overrun Ukraine within three days: to kill or capture – i.e. topple – the government and implement a regime change. That plan failed: we do not yet know exactly how and why: it could be it failed the moment the VDV lost the Hostomel Airport to the 4th Rapid Intervention Brigade, and/or the Chechens were hacked to pieces while driving into downtown Kyiv, on the first day of the war. But, there is no clear evidence in this regards, and it's going to be some time before we know for sure.

Plan B
As is obvious by now, Putin had no Plan B. He was (and remains) so obsessed with his illusions about the weakness of democracy and collapse of the West, that he could not imagine any other outcome but a quick victory. When that plan failed, he ordered the RFA to improvise the Plan B. This resulted in a dissipation of effort and utmost chaos: instead of running a ‘victory parade while liberating Ukraine’, the RFA rushed to simultaneously assault Kyiv from north-west and east, to take Mariupol, to take Kharkiv, and to reach Odessa and connect with Transnistria. Based on another illusion (‘Ukrainians are too weak to resist’), the Plan B fell apart in a matter of 2-3 days, too.

Plan C
Undaunted, Putin ordered the RFA into Plan C: besiege Kyiv, Chernihiv, Kharkiv, Mariupol, and Mykolaiv. Force them into submission by wholesale destruction of Ukraine, through murdering civilians, making their life miserable....Still based on unrealistic expectations, this plan failed, too: it only resulted in catastrophic losses of RFA units that attempted to effect all these sieges in too many places at once.

Plan D
Then, around 10-14 March, Putin ordered the RFA to go for the Plan D: secure Ukraine east of Dnepr. The RFA was still improvising and lacked troops for this: the most it managed was an advance from Kherson up the western bank of the river, while simultaneously pushing for Zaporozhye. The first prong run out of steam, until colliding with Ukrainian defences south of Kryvyi Rih, the second was ambushed and de-facto destroyed south-east of Zaporozhye.

Plan E

Now we have clear evidence that Putin ordered the RFA into the Plan E: surround the Ukrainian forces along the LOC in Donbas, and secure Mariupol. The fate of that plan is going to be decided somewhere within triangle Izium-Vuhledar-Zaporozhye, and then by
a) the ability of the RFA to deploy a superior force and punch through into the back of the Ukrainian forces along the LOC, while
b) preventing another massive loss.
Conclusion: the RFA didn't under-perform, but was given unrealistic objectives. Each of objectives was outside of its reach, and thus insufficient forces, support, and supplies were assigned for the task in question. As a result, so far, all the objectives remained outside its reach.
Now, why should anybody care about all of my rambling here?
Pay attention at the following fact: Putin is all the time downsizing his aim. From 'all of Ukraine’, 'collapse of the West' and 'destruction of democracy', via ‘Ukraine east of Dnepr’.... he's now down to 'just the LOC'.
This is about the only 'good' development in this war by now.