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Jel mi se cini ili su Ukrajinci sinoc postenski nagrdili ruse na svim frontovima? Jbt twiter pun mrtvih smecara :izet: :izet: :izet:
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https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/pog ... 49145.aspx

Tuga.

A koliko još sličnih sudbina nas čeka, dok ono patuljasto govno ne skonta da je izgubio rat.

Slava Ukrajini, kapitulacija Rusiji i Srbiji.
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#67304 Re: Ukrajina

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kecho412 wrote: 21/03/2022 11:24
Ma nije ovo eksplozija municije unutar oklopa.

Nečim ih razvaljuju da ništa ne ostaje.
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#67305 Re: Ukrajina

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tovarish wrote: 21/03/2022 11:23 https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/pog ... 49145.aspx

Tuga.

A koliko još sličnih sudbina nas čeka, dok ono patuljasto govno ne skonta da je izgubio rat.

Slava Ukrajini, kapitulacija Rusiji i Srbiji.
Ili dok ti drugi ne skontaju da im je vrijeme da se ispale odatle..
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Tom Cooper jutros boldirani highlights...
Tom Cooper
t1cil9 01h7i5cstirhd ·
Good morning everybody!
Here’s my review for the last 24 hours (20 Mar 22).
CAA - Combined Arms Army (Russia)
CO – commanding officer
BTG - Battalion Tactical Group (Russia)
GMRD - Guards Motor Rifle Division (Russia)
GTA - Guards Tank Army (Russia)
GTD - Guards Tank Division (Russia)
IFV - infantry fighting vehicle
LOC - Line of Control (old frontline between Ukraine and Separatists in the Donbass region)
MANPAD – man-protable air defence system
MBT - main battle tank
MRB - Motorized Rifle Brigade
MRD - Motorized Rifle Division
PGM – precision guided munition
RFA – Russian Federation Army/Russian Armed Forces
RF-9xxxx - Russian military aviation registration
UAF – Ukrainian armed Forces
UCAV – unmanned combat aerial vehicle
VDV - Vozdushno-desantnye voyska (Russian Airborne forces)
VKS - Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily (Air-Space Force, Russia)
West OSK – Western Military District, RFA
XO – deputy commander
Not much to report today, and I do not want to get dragged into another of – literal millions – of pointless discussions about ‘sports and cooking’ (i.e. geo-politics regarding this crisis) any more.
STRATEGIC
There’s no end of rumours about Putin pressing Lukashenko for Belarus to invade western Ukraine. Me thinks, this is a similar ‘Maskirovka’ like ‘amphibious assault on Odessa’: aimed to tie down Ukrainian reserve in the West. Similar is valid for RIA Novosti’s releases along which the Russian forces are ‘advancing’ from Transnistria into south-western Ukraine.
Hard on the heels of reports about arrival of another 200 combatants ‘from Syria’, there are now reports about the Russian Wagner PMC recruiting Libyans for fighting in Ukraine. This is from a US source, so I’m sceptical: two thirds of Haftar's 'army' consist of jihadists, Sudanese and whatever other mercenaries he's able to attract, and they're of next to no combat value at all.
NORTH
The last evening, the Keystone Cops in Moscow claimed to have flown another ‘super-precise hypersonic missile attack’ – this time on Kyiv. Is another lie: was ‘just’ a ballistic missile – probably Tochka (‘SS-21 Stone’) - that completely demolished the Retroville Shopping Centre in north-western Kyiv. Arguably, the Kinzhal is little else but a MiG-31-released (i.e.: air launched) Tochka, but, and foremost: it’s one of Putin’s show-weapons. Something to brag about ‘Russian high-technology’ on the TV. Keep in mind: there’s no point in wasting time and precious MiG-31s (VKS needs them for the defence of the huge airspace of Siberia) to do something a ground-launched system can do.
Just how desperate to demonstrate deployment of ‘super-modern weapons’ to its own public the Keystone Cops in Moscow meanwhile are is obvious from deployment of several other systems of similar nature. For example, the sole prototype of the T-80UM2 Black Hawk tank is confirmed as destroyed by the Ukrainians. The RT then ‘reacted’ by releasing a video shown an UPAB-500B satellite-guided 500kg glide bomb as installed on a Su-35 fighter-bomber. Curiously, the same video did not contain even the usual take of that Su-35 then taking off while carrying the weapon and returning without it….. Once again: reality is that the VKS is critically short on PGMs. Not only that Russia has next to no production facilities, know-how and technologies necessary to manufacture these, but their PGMs are also too complex and thus expensive to make
(no modular designs like ‘add-on’ kits for the US-designed Mk.80-series of bombs), and thus Putin, Shoygu & Co KG GesmbH AG never cared to pay for them. Indeed, I doubt the Russians have released more than 50-60 PGMs in three weeks of war (including those fired by their UAVs). Of those spent in combat the mass consisted of 30(+)-years old Kh-31 anti-radar missiles (‘AS-17 Krypton’) – all fired by the same group (perhaps 4-5 in total) of senior Su-34- and Su-35-pilots.
Inside Kyiv: what was originally a ‘battalion’ of Canadian Ukrainians is meanwhile a 550-strong ‘Canadian Ukrainian Brigade’. I’m mentioning it to point out: this is deployed in the Kyiv area. Means: please ignore any kind of claims about its presence in Mariupol.
South-west of Kyiv, the Ukrainians reported the complete destruction of the 331st VDV Regiment of the RFA. Apparently, both the CO and XO were killed, as were all the troops down to one or two captured in badly wounded condition. Seems, the unit in question was the one deployed for advance on Bila Tserkva, around the third or fourth day of the war; then it was cut off and then destroyed by the Ukrainians in days-long battles in the area south-east of Yasnohordka area.
NORTH-EAST & EAST
Small Ukrainian units active along the roads in north-eastern and eastern Ukraine are continuing to interdict supply convoys. Meanwhile, they’re increasingly using mines instead of rocket-propelled grenades or guided anti-tank weapons, though (attached photo is shown a Tor SAM-system ('SA-15 Gauntlet') destroyed by a mine.
Similarly, while in the first days of the war we could still see at least a few videos shown such convoys being guided and protected by marshaling vehicles and Ka-52 attack helicopters, the Russians obviously do not have enough of these to support all of their columns any more.
The Ukrainians have repelled another Russian attack into southern Izium. There are no details, though.
SOUTH
Yesterday, Russian forces besieging Mariupol have given a deadline by 0500hrs this morning, for the Ukrainians to surrender the city. Supposedly, all the residents and troops who lay down arms would be free to leave: anybody left behind would be considered ‘bandits’ and face a ‘military tribunal’. As explained several times already: this is the Russian ‘standard procedure’, seen in Aleppo before.
Unsurprisingly, the Mayor of Mariupol told them to (quote), ‘go fuck yourself’.

In the Mykolaiv area, the Russians claim their 58th CAA to have reached the outskirts of Kryvyi Rih (again). AFAIK, they might have taken Kochurevka and Zahradivka, two days ago (these are about 40km south of the city), and might have pushed on Mala Shestirnya (30km south of Kryvyi Rih), yesterday, but all one gets to see from that area are knocked-out or destroyed T-72B3s, MT-LBs, BTR-80s and MSTA howitzers of the 20th GMRD.
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#67307 Re: Ukrajina

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SanskiBiser wrote: 21/03/2022 11:32 Tom Cooper jutros boldirani highlights...
Tom Cooper
t1cil9 01h7i5cstirhd ·
Good morning everybody!
Here’s my review for the last 24 hours (20 Mar 22).
CAA - Combined Arms Army (Russia)
CO – commanding officer
BTG - Battalion Tactical Group (Russia)
GMRD - Guards Motor Rifle Division (Russia)
GTA - Guards Tank Army (Russia)
GTD - Guards Tank Division (Russia)
IFV - infantry fighting vehicle
LOC - Line of Control (old frontline between Ukraine and Separatists in the Donbass region)
MANPAD – man-protable air defence system
MBT - main battle tank
MRB - Motorized Rifle Brigade
MRD - Motorized Rifle Division
PGM – precision guided munition
RFA – Russian Federation Army/Russian Armed Forces
RF-9xxxx - Russian military aviation registration
UAF – Ukrainian armed Forces
UCAV – unmanned combat aerial vehicle
VDV - Vozdushno-desantnye voyska (Russian Airborne forces)
VKS - Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily (Air-Space Force, Russia)
West OSK – Western Military District, RFA
XO – deputy commander
Not much to report today, and I do not want to get dragged into another of – literal millions – of pointless discussions about ‘sports and cooking’ (i.e. geo-politics regarding this crisis) any more.
STRATEGIC
There’s no end of rumours about Putin pressing Lukashenko for Belarus to invade western Ukraine. Me thinks, this is a similar ‘Maskirovka’ like ‘amphibious assault on Odessa’: aimed to tie down Ukrainian reserve in the West. Similar is valid for RIA Novosti’s releases along which the Russian forces are ‘advancing’ from Transnistria into south-western Ukraine.
Hard on the heels of reports about arrival of another 200 combatants ‘from Syria’, there are now reports about the Russian Wagner PMC recruiting Libyans for fighting in Ukraine. This is from a US source, so I’m sceptical: two thirds of Haftar's 'army' consist of jihadists, Sudanese and whatever other mercenaries he's able to attract, and they're of next to no combat value at all.
NORTH
The last evening, the Keystone Cops in Moscow claimed to have flown another ‘super-precise hypersonic missile attack’ – this time on Kyiv. Is another lie: was ‘just’ a ballistic missile – probably Tochka (‘SS-21 Stone’) - that completely demolished the Retroville Shopping Centre in north-western Kyiv. Arguably, the Kinzhal is little else but a MiG-31-released (i.e.: air launched) Tochka, but, and foremost: it’s one of Putin’s show-weapons. Something to brag about ‘Russian high-technology’ on the TV. Keep in mind: there’s no point in wasting time and precious MiG-31s (VKS needs them for the defence of the huge airspace of Siberia) to do something a ground-launched system can do.
Just how desperate to demonstrate deployment of ‘super-modern weapons’ to its own public the Keystone Cops in Moscow meanwhile are is obvious from deployment of several other systems of similar nature. For example, the sole prototype of the T-80UM2 Black Hawk tank is confirmed as destroyed by the Ukrainians. The RT then ‘reacted’ by releasing a video shown an UPAB-500B satellite-guided 500kg glide bomb as installed on a Su-35 fighter-bomber. Curiously, the same video did not contain even the usual take of that Su-35 then taking off while carrying the weapon and returning without it….. Once again: reality is that the VKS is critically short on PGMs. Not only that Russia has next to no production facilities, know-how and technologies necessary to manufacture these, but their PGMs are also too complex and thus expensive to make
(no modular designs like ‘add-on’ kits for the US-designed Mk.80-series of bombs), and thus Putin, Shoygu & Co KG GesmbH AG never cared to pay for them. Indeed, I doubt the Russians have released more than 50-60 PGMs in three weeks of war (including those fired by their UAVs). Of those spent in combat the mass consisted of 30(+)-years old Kh-31 anti-radar missiles (‘AS-17 Krypton’) – all fired by the same group (perhaps 4-5 in total) of senior Su-34- and Su-35-pilots.
Inside Kyiv: what was originally a ‘battalion’ of Canadian Ukrainians is meanwhile a 550-strong ‘Canadian Ukrainian Brigade’. I’m mentioning it to point out: this is deployed in the Kyiv area. Means: please ignore any kind of claims about its presence in Mariupol.
South-west of Kyiv, the Ukrainians reported the complete destruction of the 331st VDV Regiment of the RFA. Apparently, both the CO and XO were killed, as were all the troops down to one or two captured in badly wounded condition. Seems, the unit in question was the one deployed for advance on Bila Tserkva, around the third or fourth day of the war; then it was cut off and then destroyed by the Ukrainians in days-long battles in the area south-east of Yasnohordka area.
NORTH-EAST & EAST
Small Ukrainian units active along the roads in north-eastern and eastern Ukraine are continuing to interdict supply convoys. Meanwhile, they’re increasingly using mines instead of rocket-propelled grenades or guided anti-tank weapons, though (attached photo is shown a Tor SAM-system ('SA-15 Gauntlet') destroyed by a mine.
Similarly, while in the first days of the war we could still see at least a few videos shown such convoys being guided and protected by marshaling vehicles and Ka-52 attack helicopters, the Russians obviously do not have enough of these to support all of their columns any more.
The Ukrainians have repelled another Russian attack into southern Izium. There are no details, though.
SOUTH
Yesterday, Russian forces besieging Mariupol have given a deadline by 0500hrs this morning, for the Ukrainians to surrender the city. Supposedly, all the residents and troops who lay down arms would be free to leave: anybody left behind would be considered ‘bandits’ and face a ‘military tribunal’. As explained several times already: this is the Russian ‘standard procedure’, seen in Aleppo before.
Unsurprisingly, the Mayor of Mariupol told them to (quote), ‘go fuck yourself’.

In the Mykolaiv area, the Russians claim their 58th CAA to have reached the outskirts of Kryvyi Rih (again). AFAIK, they might have taken Kochurevka and Zahradivka, two days ago (these are about 40km south of the city), and might have pushed on Mala Shestirnya (30km south of Kryvyi Rih), yesterday, but all one gets to see from that area are knocked-out or destroyed T-72B3s, MT-LBs, BTR-80s and MSTA howitzers of the 20th GMRD.

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no more :thumbup:
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#67308 Re: Ukrajina

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Bas fino napredujete na temi. Dosli smo do toga da se bacanje atomske bombe "moralo desiti". Mozda je za kapitulaciju bilo dovoljno da SAD demonstrira snagu svoje nove igracke na prostoru gdje ne bi bilo ljudskih zrtava ali zasto se time zamarati. Kako primjecuju neki forumasi Japan je to zasluzio. Bitno je da moderacija radi svoj posao i banuje one cije se misljenje ne uklapa u dominirajuci narativ. Prizivaci atomskih bombi i nuklearnog holokausta, kao i oni koji svrsavaju nad ugljenisanim tijelima mogu nastaviti uzivati. Molim da me se banuje jer ponovo komentarisem rad moderacije a niko ne obraca paznju na mene :).
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South-west of Kyiv, the Ukrainians reported the complete destruction of the 331st VDV Regiment of the RFA. Apparently, both the CO and XO were killed, as were all the troops down to one or two captured in badly wounded condition. Seems, the unit in question was the one deployed for advance on Bila Tserkva, around the third or fourth day of the war; then it was cut off and then destroyed by the Ukrainians in days-long battles in the area south-east of Yasnohordka area.
Koliko je to ljudi u regimenti?


I svi ovi gubici sigurno odzvanjaju širom vojnih struktura u Rusiji. Šta li se sad odvija u njihovim glavama.
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toska wrote: 21/03/2022 10:12 Veliki problem kada u društvu kao što je rusko neki autoritet daje ovakve izjave, odoše oni daleko.

vrlo slično velikosrpskoj propagandi pred jugoslovenske ratove, tada su u optuživali albanske pekare da stavljaju brom u hljeb
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Pitanje za sve zabrinute - šta je tačno vaš prijedlog da uradi Ukrajina?
Da kapitulira?
Prizna samoproglašene republike?
Prizna Krim?
Plati ratnu odštetu Rusiji?
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#67313 Re: Ukrajina

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kecho412 wrote: 21/03/2022 11:42
Šta je ovo, 203mm?
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#67314 Re: Ukrajina

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Naslovnica wrote: 21/03/2022 11:35
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SanskiBiser wrote: 21/03/2022 11:32 Tom Cooper jutros boldirani highlights...


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Ta 331 VDV regimenta je jedna od jedinica koja je ucestvovala u Ilovaisk masakru 2014, tada su ukrajinske snage imale dogovor da se povuku kroz humanitarni koridor i pobijene su. I ovaj pukovnik sto je ubijen je bio komandant jedinice i u to vrijeme, tako da ne ne sumnjam da su ih s merakom tamanili...
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https://www.news.com.au/world/top-russi ... 14842f5bc6

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Top Russian commander who masterminded a massacre killed on battlefield in Ukraine
One of Vladimir Putin’s top Russian commanders – a feared elite fighter who masterminded a massacre – has been killed.
Ne treba Hag...
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b_i_s wrote: 21/03/2022 11:42 Pitanje za sve zabrinute - šta je tačno vaš prijedlog da uradi Ukrajina?
Da kapitulira?
Prizna samoproglašene republike?
Prizna Krim?
Plati ratnu odštetu Rusiji?
Da smanji sjetvu suncokreta?
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#67316 Re: Ukrajina

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zigzag wrote: 21/03/2022 11:38
South-west of Kyiv, the Ukrainians reported the complete destruction of the 331st VDV Regiment of the RFA. Apparently, both the CO and XO were killed, as were all the troops down to one or two captured in badly wounded condition. Seems, the unit in question was the one deployed for advance on Bila Tserkva, around the third or fourth day of the war; then it was cut off and then destroyed by the Ukrainians in days-long battles in the area south-east of Yasnohordka area.
Koliko je to ljudi u regimenti?


I svi ovi gubici sigurno odzvanjaju širom vojnih struktura u Rusiji. Šta li se sad odvija u njihovim glavama.
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2000 ljudi 200 vozila

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#67317 Re: Ukrajina

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zigzag wrote: 21/03/2022 11:44
kecho412 wrote: 21/03/2022 11:42
Šta je ovo, 203mm?
aha 2s7 pion
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#67318 Re: Ukrajina

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madesa wrote: 21/03/2022 08:18 ovo u Ukrajini se i ne moze nazvati ratom. Civili staju ispred vojske i ne daju im da prodju. Zamisli kod nas 92 u Prijedoru stanu ispred cetnika i kazu ne mozete dalje. Ovo je sve stimaljka i nek se rokaju sto dalje od nas
Tek je počeo rat, nema još ni mjesec. Tako je i kod nas bilo, dok su ljude klali i ubijali u Bijeljini, u drugim gradovima srpski rezervisti hodali po kafićima, a naivni građani i dalje vjerovali u bratstvo i jedinstvo, dok nisu i oni došli na red.

Nego da malo proširim mržnju prema ruskom agresoru, a da upozorim ove sa slabijom psihom neka ne gledaju:
Grad heroj Černihiv
Prilikom demontaže objekata spasioci su izvukli obitelj poginulih 5 osoba. Među njima je 3 djece, dječak i djevojčica blizanaca od 3 godine, 12 godina starija sestra i njihovi roditelji.

Poginuli su od posljedica neprijateljskog zračnog napada
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#67319 Re: Ukrajina

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Ove haubice razvaljuju.
jeste primjetili da niko ne spominje separatisticke vojnike iz donbasa?
Kako gubitke tako ni jedinice.
Oni haman pravi linijaši.
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lajkujMe wrote: 21/03/2022 10:14

To je ta srps...Pardon Ruska Armija
zekudac mi se prevrce... ista ideologija, ista agresija, ama bas sve isto .

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Spiritbreaker wrote: 21/03/2022 11:52 Ove haubice razvaljuju.
jeste primjetili da niko ne spominje separatisticke vojnike iz donbasa?
Kako gubitke tako ni jedinice.
Oni haman pravi linijaši.
Pominjali su separatiste... Oni su odradili najveći posao oko Mariupolja i sjeverno od njega... Oni se bore i imaju motivaciju za razliku od čečena, rusa
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strasno je sta horde iz mordora rade od grada sa preko 400 000 stanovnika...
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#67323 Re: Ukrajina

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To je taj prototip ruski turbo-hiper modernizovani tenk Black Eagle T80...znaci nije u serijskoj proizvodnji uopste jer se lose pokazao, najveci problem mu je motor valjda je bio turbo benzinski :shock: ne zna se koliko je komada proizvedeno prije nego se odustalo od njega.

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The Black Eagle project was formally cancelled in 2001. Development of the Black Eagle was stopped due to financial problems, questions about the reliability of the design and, most importantly, the terrible performance of the T-80, upon which it was modeled, in the first Chechen war. The T-80 performed so poorly that after the conflict General-Lieutenant A. Galkin, the head of the Armor Directorate, convinced the Minister of Defence to never again procure tanks with gas-turbine engines.[5] This included the Black Eagle, which was promptly cancelled. The manufacturers, Omsk Transmash, attempted to appeal the decision, but were unable to pursue the appeal after filing for bankruptcy in 2002.
a seksi izgleda sto jes jes...
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#67324 Re: Ukrajina

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kecho412 wrote: 21/03/2022 11:42
Lijepe igračkice...

2S7 Pion
It carries four 203 mm projectiles for immediate use
The gun has a range of 37,500 m, but this can be extended to 55,500 m
It is capable of firing nuclear ammunition.
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#67325 Re: Ukrajina

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Ubijanje civila se nastavlja... sibirski kasapin je odredio da se ko kog pruzi otpor njegovoj agresiji bude ubijen od trudnice i bebe u koljevci do starih...SMRT FASISTIMA IZ RUSIJE!!! SLAVA UKRAINI!!!
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