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F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
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#24951 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
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#24953 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
DER PLAN 2.0
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Jeremija_Lesina
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#24954 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Bojiš se da ti nešto ne padne na pamet?beco wrote: ↑12/12/2021 16:53ZyzzSar wrote: ↑12/12/2021 16:44
i ja imam osjecaj da je to u pitanju
da je neki dogovor bio izmedju hornera i masija, povuci pereza da je mercedes siguran za titulu, a vama cu nastimati da max uzme
perez se brutalno iznenadio kad su mu rekli da dodje u box, dva puta pita jeste li ozbiljni, i nisu nikako objasnjenje ponudili zasto ga povlace![]()
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#24955 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
najbotnije je da nije bilo sudara imda se sve riješilo na stazi. obojica su zaslužila titulu, verstappen na kraju imao više sreće i to je to
sad će se naravno polemisati do bola ko je više oštećen, kriv itd … a to je upravo ono što formuli jedan treba. taj sport je u većini sezona monoton i neinteresantan, ovo im je ko kec na desetku
sad će se naravno polemisati do bola ko je više oštećen, kriv itd … a to je upravo ono što formuli jedan treba. taj sport je u većini sezona monoton i neinteresantan, ovo im je ko kec na desetku
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#24956 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
I Hamilton i Verstapen trebaju sad preci u Ferrari i pokazati u istom bolidu ko je bolji 
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#24957 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
I pobjedi novopridosli Sainz Lerclerca u Ferrariju 
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#24958 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Sid the sloth wrote: ↑12/12/2021 14:20Ista situacija?Jest mozda po tome sto je Lewis u obje situacije izbjegavao sudar a majmun isao na to.
Dr. Kuca wrote: ↑12/12/2021 14:27Sid the sloth wrote: ↑12/12/2021 14:20
Ista situacija?Jest mozda po tome sto je Lewis u obje situacije izbjegavao sudar a majmun isao na to.
Prevelika si neznalica i zasljepljen gaybojom.
Svi imate upozorenje.
I vjerujte mi na rijec ja nisam Michael Masi
Ako sam koga preskocio, nek se nada narednoj turi.
Ugodno forumanje
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#24959 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Bio je live na youtube, ne znam da li postave video naknado jer se nije moglo vraćati nazad.
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#24960 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
nadam se da ce ferrari ili meklaren da bude dobar naredne sezone, i da se bore sa mercedesom
ovi cigani iz red bulla i kamikaza verstapen nadam se da ce dozivjeti ogroman pad
mnogo radije cu gledati borbu hamilton, lekler, rusell, lando, rikardo, sainz gdje su svi korektni u trkanju
ovi cigani iz red bulla i kamikaza verstapen nadam se da ce dozivjeti ogroman pad
mnogo radije cu gledati borbu hamilton, lekler, rusell, lando, rikardo, sainz gdje su svi korektni u trkanju
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#24961 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Hamilton treba da ide iz Mercedesa jer sa njima nece osvojiti 8. titulu. Schumacher je nijemac i cedo Mercedesa, nece dozvoliti da jedan britanac bude bolji od njega.
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#24962 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
A Sainz,gdje njegova šansa da pretekne i Hamiltona i Verstappena u zadnjem krugu?Treći do tad u trci a restart radi sa šestog mjesta,za njega vrijede jedne pravila a za Maxa druga!ProgramskiJezik wrote: ↑12/12/2021 17:51 Ne kontam nije li normalno da nakon saftycar svi se poredaju opet? I nije li ste isto desilo i Hammiltonu prije par uturka?
Ne vidim zbog cega ljudi placu?
Jedina stvar koja je kontroverzna ovdje jeste to sto su samo auta koja su izmedju Maxa i Hamiltona bili promjenjeni trebali su valjda svi.. al eto
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#24963 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
wtf je "korektni"? 
je l' moraju svi biti dosadni?
je l' moraju svi biti dosadni?
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#24965 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Takodjer ides na listu upozorenih.ZyzzSar wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:12 nadam se da ce ferrari ili meklaren da bude dobar naredne sezone, i da se bore sa mercedesom
ovi cigani iz red bulla i kamikaza verstapen nadam se da ce dozivjeti ogroman pad
mnogo radije cu gledati borbu hamilton, lekler, rusell, lando, rikardo, sainz gdje su svi korektni u trkanju
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#24966 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Neka onda nama Fadila i Fikreta da imamo o čemu polemisat.RJ57 wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:03 najbotnije je da nije bilo sudara imda se sve riješilo na stazi. obojica su zaslužila titulu, verstappen na kraju imao više sreće i to je to
sad će se naravno polemisati do bola ko je više oštećen, kriv itd … a to je upravo ono što formuli jedan treba. taj sport je u većini sezona monoton i neinteresantan, ovo im je ko kec na desetku![]()
Ti i ja kazemo da su krivi, Bakir i Šefik da nisu.
Ovdje je više nego očigledno bilo da je jedini cilj Masja bio da omogući Maxu jedan krug iza Lewisa što je sasvim dovoljno bilo kada znamo da je jedan imao nove soft gume a drugi 47 krugova stare hard gume.
Pravila SC su jasna, auta koja kasne za krug preticu SC, SC ceka da ga ponovo sustignu i onda SC ulazi u box i utrka se nastavlja pod zelenom zastavom.
Obzirom da je bio 57. od 58 krugova i za to nije bilo vremena izrežirana je ova naštimačina gdje su samo sklonili 4 ili 5 auta koja su se nalazila između Lewisa i Maxa. SC nije čekao da ta auta ponovo stignu kolonu kako to pravila kažu i ušao je u istom krugu (57.) u box u kojem su ga ti automobili prestigli sto je također suprotno pravilima.
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#24967 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Stariji članovi možda se sjete Josa Vercrashena. On je zaista porodičnu tradiciju digao na viši nivo
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... HmnMXueMWV
Omladina može slobodno guglati
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Omladina može slobodno guglati
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#24968 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Evo ukratko sta kazu pravila, nadam se da svi razumijete anglo americki:
What Formula 1's safety car restart rules say
FORMULA 1 / ABU DHABI GP NEWS
What Formula 1's safety car restart rules say
By:
Jonathan Noble
Dec 12, 2021, 5:36 PM
Formula 1's world championship showdown in Abu Dhabi ended in controversial circumstances, with Mercedes protesting the way a safety car restart was handled by the FIA.
What Formula 1's safety car restart rules say
With Lewis Hamilton having looked on course to grab his eighth world crown, the race was turned in its head when Williams driver Nicholas Latifi crashed at the exit of the hotel complex on lap 53 of the 58 laps race, triggering a safety car.
The safety car situation resulted in Max Verstappen pitting for soft tyres, while Hamilton stayed out on his well-worn hards.
With a winner-takes-all championship battle underway, it was in Red Bull's interest to get a restart going, and it without the intervention of lapped cars that were on track between Verstappen and Hamilton.
So when Masi issued a notice saying 'Lapped cars will not be allowed to overtake', it appeared that Red Bull's hopes would not be realised as he would be unlikely to clear the lapped cars in time.
However, the situation changed dramatically on the penultimate lap when Masi felt the track was safe enough to let a few backmarkers overtake.
But it was the way this was handled, and the immediate restart, that has upset Mercedes.
Safety Car rules
Mercedes' protest is based on two regulations: Article 48.12 and Article 48.8 of the F1 Sporting Regulations.
Article 48.12 deals with the situation of having backmarkers unlap themselves.
Initially, Masi had been within his rights to state that 'Lapped Cars will not be allowed to overtake' - which meant Verstappen would be trapped behind five backmarkers before he could get a run on Hamilton.
However, on the penultimate lap, on the run down to Turn 9, Masi sent a message saying that five cars – Lando Norris, Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon, Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel could unlap themselves.
The decision to only allow some lapped cars to unlap themselves is unusual as Article 48.12 suggests that the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' should be sent to all competitors.
The regulation is then explicit about when the race can be restarted.
It states: "Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap.
"If the clerk of the course considers track conditions are unsuitable for overtaking the message "OVERTAKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED" will be sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system "
This clause suggests that with the lapped car message having come out on lap 57, then the restart could only come at the end of the 'following lap'- so lap 58, which was the end of the race.
Article 48.8 relates to there being no overtaking behind the safety car.
During the restart phase, as Hamilton and Verstappen prepared to begin racing again, it appeared from the onboard that the Red Bull had briefly nudged ahead of the Mercedes.
The rule states that "no driver may overtake another car on the track, including the safety car, until he passes the Line (see Article 5.3 – which is the safety car line) for the first time after the safety car has returned to the pits."
Both matters will now be dealt with in the FIA stewards' room on Sunday night, meaning the championship fight ends under a cloud.
Motorsport.com
What Formula 1's safety car restart rules say
FORMULA 1 / ABU DHABI GP NEWS
What Formula 1's safety car restart rules say
By:
Jonathan Noble
Dec 12, 2021, 5:36 PM
Formula 1's world championship showdown in Abu Dhabi ended in controversial circumstances, with Mercedes protesting the way a safety car restart was handled by the FIA.
What Formula 1's safety car restart rules say
With Lewis Hamilton having looked on course to grab his eighth world crown, the race was turned in its head when Williams driver Nicholas Latifi crashed at the exit of the hotel complex on lap 53 of the 58 laps race, triggering a safety car.
The safety car situation resulted in Max Verstappen pitting for soft tyres, while Hamilton stayed out on his well-worn hards.
With a winner-takes-all championship battle underway, it was in Red Bull's interest to get a restart going, and it without the intervention of lapped cars that were on track between Verstappen and Hamilton.
So when Masi issued a notice saying 'Lapped cars will not be allowed to overtake', it appeared that Red Bull's hopes would not be realised as he would be unlikely to clear the lapped cars in time.
However, the situation changed dramatically on the penultimate lap when Masi felt the track was safe enough to let a few backmarkers overtake.
But it was the way this was handled, and the immediate restart, that has upset Mercedes.
Safety Car rules
Mercedes' protest is based on two regulations: Article 48.12 and Article 48.8 of the F1 Sporting Regulations.
Article 48.12 deals with the situation of having backmarkers unlap themselves.
Initially, Masi had been within his rights to state that 'Lapped Cars will not be allowed to overtake' - which meant Verstappen would be trapped behind five backmarkers before he could get a run on Hamilton.
However, on the penultimate lap, on the run down to Turn 9, Masi sent a message saying that five cars – Lando Norris, Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon, Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel could unlap themselves.
The decision to only allow some lapped cars to unlap themselves is unusual as Article 48.12 suggests that the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' should be sent to all competitors.
The regulation is then explicit about when the race can be restarted.
It states: "Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap.
"If the clerk of the course considers track conditions are unsuitable for overtaking the message "OVERTAKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED" will be sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system "
This clause suggests that with the lapped car message having come out on lap 57, then the restart could only come at the end of the 'following lap'- so lap 58, which was the end of the race.
Article 48.8 relates to there being no overtaking behind the safety car.
During the restart phase, as Hamilton and Verstappen prepared to begin racing again, it appeared from the onboard that the Red Bull had briefly nudged ahead of the Mercedes.
The rule states that "no driver may overtake another car on the track, including the safety car, until he passes the Line (see Article 5.3 – which is the safety car line) for the first time after the safety car has returned to the pits."
Both matters will now be dealt with in the FIA stewards' room on Sunday night, meaning the championship fight ends under a cloud.
Motorsport.com
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#24969 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Ne moze se bas reci da je to Masiu bio cilj, prvo je htio ostaviti poredak kakav jeste pa ga je Horner (suprotno pravilima) nagovorio da uradi ovo sto je uradio. Nadam se samo da ima taj neki sud koji moze reci ako ovo krsi pravila (a krsi 99%).PaulTracy wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:19Neka onda nama Fadila i Fikreta da imamo o čemu polemisat.RJ57 wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:03 najbotnije je da nije bilo sudara imda se sve riješilo na stazi. obojica su zaslužila titulu, verstappen na kraju imao više sreće i to je to
sad će se naravno polemisati do bola ko je više oštećen, kriv itd … a to je upravo ono što formuli jedan treba. taj sport je u većini sezona monoton i neinteresantan, ovo im je ko kec na desetku![]()
Ti i ja kazemo da su krivi, Bakir i Šefik da nisu.
Ovdje je više nego očigledno bilo da je jedini cilj Masja bio da omogući Maxu jedan krug iza Lewisa što je sasvim dovoljno bilo kada znamo da je jedan imao nove soft gume a drugi 47 krugova stare hard gume.
Pravila SC su jasna, auta koja kasne za krug preticu SC, SC ceka da ga ponovo sustignu i onda SC ulazi u box i utrka se nastavlja pod zelenom zastavom.
Obzirom da je bio 57. od 58 krugova i za to nije bilo vremena izrežirana je ova naštimačina gdje su samo sklonili 4 ili 5 auta koja su se nalazila između Lewisa i Maxa. SC nije čekao da ta auta ponovo stignu kolonu kako to pravila kažu i ušao je u istom krugu (57.) u box u kojem su ga ti automobili prestigli sto je također suprotno pravilima.
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#24970 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Prvo su hamiltona trebali vratiti nakon presjecanja krivine i time sticanja prednostiSid the sloth wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:21Ne moze se bas reci da je to Masiu bio cilje, prvo je htio ostaviti poredak kakav jeste pa ga je Horner (suprotno pravilima) nagovorio da uradi ovo sto je uradio. Nadam se samo da ima taj neki sud koji moze reci ako ovo krsi pravila (a krsi 99%).PaulTracy wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:19
Neka onda nama Fadila i Fikreta da imamo o čemu polemisat.
Ti i ja kazemo da su krivi, Bakir i Šefik da nisu.
Ovdje je više nego očigledno bilo da je jedini cilj Masja bio da omogući Maxu jedan krug iza Lewisa što je sasvim dovoljno bilo kada znamo da je jedan imao nove soft gume a drugi 47 krugova stare hard gume.
Pravila SC su jasna, auta koja kasne za krug preticu SC, SC ceka da ga ponovo sustignu i onda SC ulazi u box i utrka se nastavlja pod zelenom zastavom.
Obzirom da je bio 57. od 58 krugova i za to nije bilo vremena izrežirana je ova naštimačina gdje su samo sklonili 4 ili 5 auta koja su se nalazila između Lewisa i Maxa. SC nije čekao da ta auta ponovo stignu kolonu kako to pravila kažu i ušao je u istom krugu (57.) u box u kojem su ga ti automobili prestigli sto je također suprotno pravilima.
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#24971 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Nije li prikladno...da je hiljadita stranica teme pala baš danas. 
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#24972 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
sve i da ne prodje protest, da ostane ovako kako je, nadam se da ce mercedes da ih odere po djepu na sudu zbog ocitog i ciljanog krsenja pravilaSid the sloth wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:21
Ne moze se bas reci da je to Masiu bio cilje, prvo je htio ostaviti poredak kakav jeste pa ga je Horner (suprotno pravilima) nagovorio da uradi ovo sto je uradio. Nadam se samo da ima taj neki sud koji moze reci ako ovo krsi pravila (a krsi 99%).
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#24973 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Plačite do sutra, ali Max je prvak i ništa to neće promjeniti
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#24974 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
nije moglo bolje 
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#24975 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Neka se mercedes zali i na to sto nisu vratili hamiltona poziciju iza nakon presjecanja krivine i sticanja prednostiZyzzSar wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:25sve i da ne prodje protest, da ostane ovako kako je, nadam se da ce mercedes da ih odere po djepu na sudu zbog ocitog i ciljanog krsenja pravilaSid the sloth wrote: ↑12/12/2021 18:21
Ne moze se bas reci da je to Masiu bio cilje, prvo je htio ostaviti poredak kakav jeste pa ga je Horner (suprotno pravilima) nagovorio da uradi ovo sto je uradio. Nadam se samo da ima taj neki sud koji moze reci ako ovo krsi pravila (a krsi 99%).
