Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
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LionKing
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#2701 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Ja lično još nigdje nisam pročitao pitanje novinara nekom zvaničniku, vodji kriznog staba, ministru zdravstva etc. bilo gdje u svijetu, zašto je potrebno vakcinisati 70% stanovništva da bi se relaksirale mjere ako znamo da je ugrozeno maksimalno 10% stanovništva. Po svakoj zdravoj logici, nakon vakcinacije 20% populacije bez problema počnemo sa normalnim životom i nastavimo proces.
Pretpostavljam da bi odgovor bio, mutacija. Al' hajmo pitat
Pretpostavljam da bi odgovor bio, mutacija. Al' hajmo pitat
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Mogy87
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#2702 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Cim se gradjanima u zapadnim zemljama koji to zele omoguci vakcinacija vracamo se na normalan zivot. Bilo to 20, 50, ili 70 ili vise posto nije bitno.LionKing wrote: ↑28/01/2021 20:47 Ja lično još nigdje nisam pročitao pitanje novinara nekom zvaničniku, vodji kriznog staba, ministru zdravstva etc. bilo gdje u svijetu, zašto je potrebno vakcinisati 70% stanovništva da bi se relaksirale mjere ako znamo da je ugrozeno maksimalno 10% stanovništva. Po svakoj zdravoj logici, nakon vakcinacije 20% populacije bez problema počnemo sa normalnim životom i nastavimo proces.
Pretpostavljam da bi odgovor bio, mutacija. Al' hajmo pitat
Mislis da ce neko cekati da BiH vakcinise i tih 20%. Od drugim "manje bitnim" drzavama da ne pricam.
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trotecnr1
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#2703 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Meni je isto totalno nejasno zašto se kod nas ne zna ni koliko vakcina dolazi, ni kad će, ni hoće li, ni za koga će biti, a novci uplaćeni...
Pa majke mi sad vidim da je cijeli svijet jedna velika disfunkcionalna ublehaška Bosna.
Vidim Sebi-ja izbacuje slike, spremaju se za vakcinisanje zdravstvenih radnika, zagrijavanje u toku, a građani??
S druge strane, budući da imamo ne jednu, nego 4-5 vakcina već na tržištu, šta je problem već uraditi neku bazu podatka poput ove u Srbiji da se čovjek može već registrirati i naznačiti koju vakcinu bi htio primiti? Automatski bi se imala neka jasnija vizija koliko ljudi je uopće zainteresirano u ovome momentu za vakcinaciju. To ne bi trebalo biti samo kod nas, nego svuda u svijetu (ako već i nije).
Ja sam siguran da je Francuska dobila ogromne količine vakcina, ali je odziv slab - i šta sad s tim vakcinama?
Da postoji sistem, bilo bi valjda logično da se jedan dio tih vakcina uzme nazad i preraspodijeli zemljama koje imaju zainteresiranih i žele raditi imunizaciju, a ne skladištenje po frižiderima dok se nekom Pierru i Jeanu ćefne da bi oni, eto, možda mogli primit vakcinu.
Katastrofa.
Vidim Sebi-ja izbacuje slike, spremaju se za vakcinisanje zdravstvenih radnika, zagrijavanje u toku, a građani??
S druge strane, budući da imamo ne jednu, nego 4-5 vakcina već na tržištu, šta je problem već uraditi neku bazu podatka poput ove u Srbiji da se čovjek može već registrirati i naznačiti koju vakcinu bi htio primiti? Automatski bi se imala neka jasnija vizija koliko ljudi je uopće zainteresirano u ovome momentu za vakcinaciju. To ne bi trebalo biti samo kod nas, nego svuda u svijetu (ako već i nije).
Ja sam siguran da je Francuska dobila ogromne količine vakcina, ali je odziv slab - i šta sad s tim vakcinama?
Da postoji sistem, bilo bi valjda logično da se jedan dio tih vakcina uzme nazad i preraspodijeli zemljama koje imaju zainteresiranih i žele raditi imunizaciju, a ne skladištenje po frižiderima dok se nekom Pierru i Jeanu ćefne da bi oni, eto, možda mogli primit vakcinu.
Katastrofa.
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Mogy87
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#2704 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
@trotecnr1 joj tebi ti ko da u Bosni ne zivis
sve odlicne ideje, ali Bosna 
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laik1981
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#2705 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Ma kod nas ce i vakcinacija prvo biti dostupna u privatnim klinikama, pa cemo moci birati koju cemo primiti za odredjenu svotu novca.. Iz nekog razloga se svjesno urusava javno zdravstvo, a i problemi sa nabavkom vakcina su nastavak tog urusavanja..
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trotecnr1
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#2706 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Meni je najgore što sad vidim da to nije samo Bosna, to je čitav svijet: jedno veliko globalno selo u kojem se ne zna ni ko pije, ni ko plaća.
Da je kako na Mars otići.
Da je kako na Mars otići.
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Mogy87
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#2707 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Novavax’s Vaccine Works Well — Except on Variant First Found in South Africa
An early analysis in Britain found that the vaccine had an efficacy rate of nearly 90 percent. But in a small South Africa trial, the efficacy rate dropped to just under 50 percent.
Novavax, which makes one of six vaccine candidates supported by Operation Warp Speed last summer, has been running trials in Britain, South Africa, the United States and Mexico. It said Thursday that an early analysis of its 15,000-person trial in Britain revealed that the two-dose vaccine had an efficacy rate of nearly 90 percent there. But in a small trial in South Africa, the efficacy rate dropped to just under 50 percent. Almost all the cases that scientists have analyzed there so far were caused by the variant, known as B.1.351. The data also showed that many trial participants were infected with the variant even after they had already had Covid.
But experts have also said there are reasons for optimism, noting that the vaccines remain effective. The best way to combat contagious new variants is to continue vaccination and other public health measures, which will slow the virus’s ability to infect new people and mutate further. Drug makers could update their vaccines and offer new shots at regular intervals, similar to the flu vaccine.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/heal ... EeQBW6gFs0
An early analysis in Britain found that the vaccine had an efficacy rate of nearly 90 percent. But in a small South Africa trial, the efficacy rate dropped to just under 50 percent.
Novavax, which makes one of six vaccine candidates supported by Operation Warp Speed last summer, has been running trials in Britain, South Africa, the United States and Mexico. It said Thursday that an early analysis of its 15,000-person trial in Britain revealed that the two-dose vaccine had an efficacy rate of nearly 90 percent there. But in a small trial in South Africa, the efficacy rate dropped to just under 50 percent. Almost all the cases that scientists have analyzed there so far were caused by the variant, known as B.1.351. The data also showed that many trial participants were infected with the variant even after they had already had Covid.
But experts have also said there are reasons for optimism, noting that the vaccines remain effective. The best way to combat contagious new variants is to continue vaccination and other public health measures, which will slow the virus’s ability to infect new people and mutate further. Drug makers could update their vaccines and offer new shots at regular intervals, similar to the flu vaccine.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/heal ... EeQBW6gFs0
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#2708 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Izgleda da je ova JA varijanta trenutno najveća opasnost za novi krug pandemije i razlog zašto Pfizer i Moderna ubrzano rade na boosterima.Mogy87 wrote: ↑28/01/2021 22:46But in a small trial in South Africa, the efficacy rate dropped to just under 50 percent.[/b] Almost all the cases that scientists have analyzed there so far were caused by the variant, known as B.1.351. The data also showed that many trial participants were infected with the variant even after they had already had Covid.
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daddy-kool
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#2709 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Iz razloga profita, a kompletan društveni sistem je ...
https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/svi-opt ... /210129024
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daddy-kool
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#2710 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Ne funkcioniše svijet na taj način, nego ko ima pare i moć dolazi prvi na red.trotecnr1 wrote: ↑28/01/2021 20:59 To ne bi trebalo biti samo kod nas, nego svuda u svijetu (ako već i nije).
Ja sam siguran da je Francuska dobila ogromne količine vakcina, ali je odziv slab - i šta sad s tim vakcinama?
Da postoji sistem, bilo bi valjda logično da se jedan dio tih vakcina uzme nazad i preraspodijeli zemljama koje imaju zainteresiranih i žele raditi imunizaciju, a ne skladištenje po frižiderima dok se nekom Pierru i Jeanu ćefne da bi oni, eto, možda mogli primit vakcinu.
Katastrofa.
Ostali čekaju da se najjači najedu pa da se primaknu ostacima, da onda nešto i oni dobiju.
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Mogy87
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#2711 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Iz Moderne su saopstili ovodaddy-kool wrote: ↑29/01/2021 09:51Izgleda da je ova JA varijanta trenutno najveća opasnost za novi krug pandemije i razlog zašto Pfizer i Moderna ubrzano rade na boosterima.Mogy87 wrote: ↑28/01/2021 22:46But in a small trial in South Africa, the efficacy rate dropped to just under 50 percent.[/b] Almost all the cases that scientists have analyzed there so far were caused by the variant, known as B.1.351. The data also showed that many trial participants were infected with the variant even after they had already had Covid.
But it appears to be less protective against the variant discovered in South Africa, and so the company is developing a new form of the vaccine that could be used as a booster shot against that virus.
“We’re doing it today to be ahead of the curve should we need to,” Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna’s chief medical officer, said in an interview. “I think of it as an insurance policy.”
A suska se da J&J ne izlazi s podacima upravo jer su saznali da je manje efikasna protiv JA soja.
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daddy-kool
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#2712 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Ako je to zaista slučaj, onda se slični rezultati mogu očekivati i za rusku, AZ/oxford i kineske vakcine. Sad dolazi do izražaja fleksibilnost platforme i ko će moći dovoljno brzo prilagoditi i proizvesti 2.0 verziju vakcine.
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Trappist
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#2713 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/zas ... 50379.aspx
"A neke optužbe Europske unije jednostavno ne stoje. Uzmimo, primjerice, pritužbu da EU ima drugorazredni tretman kod AstraZenece. Kad se govori o poštivanju ugovora s Velikom Britanijom, činjenica je da je EU ugovor s AstraZenecom potpisala tri mjeseca nakon vlade britanskog premijera Borisa Johnsona. AstraZeneca također tvrdi da s EU ima ugovor o "najboljoj namjeri", a ne stopostotnu obavezu da željenu količinu cjepiva isporuči do kraja ožujka.
Pokušaj EK da potpiše ugovore po nižim cijenama je usporio proces
EU diplomati kažu kako je unija očajnički željela izbjeći da se jedna članica okomi na drugu kako bi osigurala cjepivo samo za vlastitu populaciju, No, pokušaj Europske komisije da potpiše niz ugovora s različitim farmaceutskim kompanijama po nižim cijenama, osiguravajući veću pravnu odgovornost kompanija, nesumnjivo je usporio proces."
Sto se nisu na Izrael ugledali
"A neke optužbe Europske unije jednostavno ne stoje. Uzmimo, primjerice, pritužbu da EU ima drugorazredni tretman kod AstraZenece. Kad se govori o poštivanju ugovora s Velikom Britanijom, činjenica je da je EU ugovor s AstraZenecom potpisala tri mjeseca nakon vlade britanskog premijera Borisa Johnsona. AstraZeneca također tvrdi da s EU ima ugovor o "najboljoj namjeri", a ne stopostotnu obavezu da željenu količinu cjepiva isporuči do kraja ožujka.
Pokušaj EK da potpiše ugovore po nižim cijenama je usporio proces
EU diplomati kažu kako je unija očajnički željela izbjeći da se jedna članica okomi na drugu kako bi osigurala cjepivo samo za vlastitu populaciju, No, pokušaj Europske komisije da potpiše niz ugovora s različitim farmaceutskim kompanijama po nižim cijenama, osiguravajući veću pravnu odgovornost kompanija, nesumnjivo je usporio proces."
Sto se nisu na Izrael ugledali
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Mogy87
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#2714 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Upravo to. Procitala sam da je BioNtech imao plan za ovu situaciju od septembra.daddy-kool wrote: ↑29/01/2021 10:26Ako je to zaista slučaj, onda se slični rezultati mogu očekivati i za rusku, AZ/oxford i kineske vakcine. Sad dolazi do izražaja fleksibilnost platforme i ko će moći dovoljno brzo prilagoditi i proizvesti 2.0 verziju vakcine.
Mislim, ovo za J&J je samo glasina, ali znacemo uskoro.
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Naslovnica
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#2715 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/ ... a-15046579
Cirkus je potpun: EK objavila tekst ugovora s AstraZenecom, pogledajte kako izgleda

Kako doznajemo, 95 posto zatamnjenog sadržaja je od strane AstraZenece, a samo 5 posto od strane EU.

Cirkus je potpun: EK objavila tekst ugovora s AstraZenecom, pogledajte kako izgleda

Kako doznajemo, 95 posto zatamnjenog sadržaja je od strane AstraZenece, a samo 5 posto od strane EU.
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Mogy87
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#2716 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
(CNN)Johnson & Johnson's Covid-19 single-shot vaccine was shown to be 66% effective in preventing moderate and severe disease in a global Phase 3 trial, but 85% efficacy against severe disease, the company announced Friday.
The vaccine was 72% effective against moderate and severe disease in the US, the company said.
The level of protection against moderate and severe COVID-19 infection was 72% in the US, 66% in Latin America and 57% in South Africa, 28 days post-vaccination."
"We're 85% effective at preventing severe disease, which we define as disease that makes you feel particularly sick at home, or may go to the hospital, or worse," Dr. Mathai Mammen, global head of research and development at Johnson & Johnson, told CNN.
"And we are right now completely protective, it would appear 100% protective, against disease that actually does make you go to the hospital, we're 100% protective against death
Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine expert at the University of Pennsylvania and a member of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, said that under normal circumstances, there might not be much of a market for a vaccine that is significantly less effective than two others already on the market. But he added that these are not normal times, with a pandemic raging and shortage of vaccines.
Mammen said the Janssen vaccine was tested later, after new variants of coronavirus were already circulating. One in particular, called B.1.135, was dominant in South Africa when the vaccine was tested there. This variant has mutations that might be expected to weaken the vaccine's effects somewhat.
But it still protected people, Mammen said.
"I'm looking at that South African variant, and I'm seeing that we're able to completely protect against concerning levels of illness, where one might go to a hospital," he said.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/29/heal ... rWWDs2QVks
The vaccine was 72% effective against moderate and severe disease in the US, the company said.
The level of protection against moderate and severe COVID-19 infection was 72% in the US, 66% in Latin America and 57% in South Africa, 28 days post-vaccination."
"We're 85% effective at preventing severe disease, which we define as disease that makes you feel particularly sick at home, or may go to the hospital, or worse," Dr. Mathai Mammen, global head of research and development at Johnson & Johnson, told CNN.
"And we are right now completely protective, it would appear 100% protective, against disease that actually does make you go to the hospital, we're 100% protective against death
Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine expert at the University of Pennsylvania and a member of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, said that under normal circumstances, there might not be much of a market for a vaccine that is significantly less effective than two others already on the market. But he added that these are not normal times, with a pandemic raging and shortage of vaccines.
Mammen said the Janssen vaccine was tested later, after new variants of coronavirus were already circulating. One in particular, called B.1.135, was dominant in South Africa when the vaccine was tested there. This variant has mutations that might be expected to weaken the vaccine's effects somewhat.
But it still protected people, Mammen said.
"I'm looking at that South African variant, and I'm seeing that we're able to completely protect against concerning levels of illness, where one might go to a hospital," he said.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/29/heal ... rWWDs2QVks
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#2717 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Pfizer i dalje tvrdi da djeluje na sve sojeve? Ako je tako, respectdaddy-kool wrote: ↑29/01/2021 10:26Ako je to zaista slučaj, onda se slični rezultati mogu očekivati i za rusku, AZ/oxford i kineske vakcine. Sad dolazi do izražaja fleksibilnost platforme i ko će moći dovoljno brzo prilagoditi i proizvesti 2.0 verziju vakcine.
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Mogy87
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#2718 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Radili su istrazivanje, mali su uzorci, a izgleda da Pfizer nije testirao sve JA mutacijeIndustrialyzer wrote: ↑29/01/2021 14:30Pfizer i dalje tvrdi da djeluje na sve sojeve? Ako je tako, respectdaddy-kool wrote: ↑29/01/2021 10:26Ako je to zaista slučaj, onda se slični rezultati mogu očekivati i za rusku, AZ/oxford i kineske vakcine. Sad dolazi do izražaja fleksibilnost platforme i ko će moći dovoljno brzo prilagoditi i proizvesti 2.0 verziju vakcine.![]()
Both Moderna and Pfizer have undertaken studies to try to understand how their vaccines affect the emerging variants. But they’ve taken different approaches, causing some confusion.
For example, Moderna analyzed the South African variant and found its vaccine produced sixfold fewer neutralizing antibodies against that strain than it did against the original virus. Then Pfizer followed with an analysis suggesting its vaccine was only slightly less effective against the South African strain.
Problem is, Pfizer’s analysis did not include all the mutations found in the South African variant of SARS-CoV-2, said Evercore ISI analyst Umer Raffat in a Wednesday note. In fact, it didn’t include a certain mutation that’s known to be problematic, he said. Therefore, because “the simultaneous co-mutations is where the neutralization activity starts to dip,” Pfizer’s analysis may not be entirely comprehensive, he said.
Ovo je studija
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... qbwp1ueq30
BioNtech se priprema za eventualni update od septembra, a Moderna vec radi na boosteru kao “insurance policy”
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#2719 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Pored ogromnog napretka Kine, i dalje mnogo zaostaju za zapadom sto dokazuje i razvoj vakcina.
Iz Izraela sve bolje i bolje informacije dolaze, zaista impresivno sta su napravili Pfizer i Biontech
Iz Izraela sve bolje i bolje informacije dolaze, zaista impresivno sta su napravili Pfizer i Biontech
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laik1981
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#2720 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Za ove je i Fadil sinonim za transparentnost..Naslovnica wrote: ↑29/01/2021 14:03 https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/ ... a-15046579
Cirkus je potpun: EK objavila tekst ugovora s AstraZenecom, pogledajte kako izgleda
Kako doznajemo, 95 posto zatamnjenog sadržaja je od strane AstraZenece, a samo 5 posto od strane EU.
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daddy-kool
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#2721 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/heal ... iants.html
Johnson & Johnson’s Vaccine Offers Strong Protection but Fuels Concern About Variants
The vaccine’s efficacy rate dropped from 72 percent in the United States to 57 percent in South Africa, where a highly contagious variant is driving most cases. Studies suggest that this variant also blunts the effectiveness of Covid vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Novavax.
Johnson & Johnson’s Vaccine Offers Strong Protection but Fuels Concern About Variants
The vaccine’s efficacy rate dropped from 72 percent in the United States to 57 percent in South Africa, where a highly contagious variant is driving most cases. Studies suggest that this variant also blunts the effectiveness of Covid vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Novavax.
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Trappist
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#2722 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Da se ponovim:daddy-kool wrote: ↑29/01/2021 15:22 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/heal ... iants.html
Johnson & Johnson’s Vaccine Offers Strong Protection but Fuels Concern About Variants
The vaccine’s efficacy rate dropped from 72 percent in the United States to 57 percent in South Africa, where a highly contagious variant is driving most cases. Studies suggest that this variant also blunts the effectiveness of Covid vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Novavax.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ct-recalls
I Jako dobar dokumentarac:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11600174/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710212/
Uglavnom, ojadili su hiljade ljudi. Prije bih 100 kineskih ubrizgao odjednom u ruku nego jednu Johnson & Johnson
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Mogy87
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#2723 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Nakon Sanofija Novartis i Merck razmatraju ustupanje svjih kapaciteta za proizvodnju vakcina
Novartis AG is in talks to help produce other companies’ coronavirus vaccines or treatments as the industry mobilizes to boost supply amid fights over access.
The company is “in conversations with a range of different players,” Chief Executive Officer Vas Narasimhan said on Bloomberg TV, with an agreement possible in the coming days or weeks. “We have production capacity across our network that we’re willing to make available,” he said, for everything from monoclonal antibodies to vaccine production.
Merck KGaA is also considering several ways to help BioNTech increase capacity, including in the so-called “fill and finish” stage of vaccine production, a spokesman said. The company already supplies raw materials and research products to more than 50 coronavirus vaccine developers, including BioNTech.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... RrXmeK58lA
Novartis AG is in talks to help produce other companies’ coronavirus vaccines or treatments as the industry mobilizes to boost supply amid fights over access.
The company is “in conversations with a range of different players,” Chief Executive Officer Vas Narasimhan said on Bloomberg TV, with an agreement possible in the coming days or weeks. “We have production capacity across our network that we’re willing to make available,” he said, for everything from monoclonal antibodies to vaccine production.
Merck KGaA is also considering several ways to help BioNTech increase capacity, including in the so-called “fill and finish” stage of vaccine production, a spokesman said. The company already supplies raw materials and research products to more than 50 coronavirus vaccine developers, including BioNTech.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... RrXmeK58lA
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daddy-kool
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#2724 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Moja trenutna rang lista ovih koje bi mogle doći:
1. Pfizer
2. Moderna
3. Sputnik V*
4. Sinopharm*
5. AZ/Oxford
*(tek trebaju da objave rezultate u nekom ozbiljnom časopisu)
Ali u principu, prva dostupna ide u rame.
Priča se da su u Srbiji u problemu jer su ispucali sve doze Pfizera, a sada za drugu dozu ne zna se šta i kada.
1. Pfizer
2. Moderna
3. Sputnik V*
4. Sinopharm*
5. AZ/Oxford
*(tek trebaju da objave rezultate u nekom ozbiljnom časopisu)
Ali u principu, prva dostupna ide u rame.
Priča se da su u Srbiji u problemu jer su ispucali sve doze Pfizera, a sada za drugu dozu ne zna se šta i kada.
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Mogy87
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#2725 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Zasto AZ posljednja? Ja sam malo skepticna prema ovima bez objavljenih rezultata, ali komsije se Sinopharmom masovno vakcinisu pa cemo vidjeti sta ce biti.daddy-kool wrote: ↑29/01/2021 15:49 Moja trenutna rang lista ovih koje bi mogle doći:
1. Pfizer
2. Moderna
3. Sputnik V*
4. Sinopharm*
5. AZ/Oxford
*(tek trebaju da objave rezultate u nekom ozbiljnom časopisu)
Ali u principu, prva dostupna ide u rame.
Priča se da su u Srbiji u problemu jer su ispucali sve doze Pfizera, a sada za drugu dozu ne zna se šta i kada.
Pfizer prije Moderne radi podataka iz Izraela?
