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#1226 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Mogy87 wrote: 05/12/2020 18:31
laik1981 wrote: 05/12/2020 18:11
Edin H. wrote: 05/12/2020 17:07

Nije Solumova dzaba dobila nogu s posla :D
Meni nije jasno sta nju natjera na ovakve izjave? Koji je njen motiv? Koji je motiv bilo koga ko je bio u naucnim krugovima ili ko je i danas u naucnim krugovima, a palamude protiv vakcina? To je onako malo zagonetno..
Da nije do ovoga:

Epidemiolog Predrag Đurić izjavio je da istraživanja pokazuju da antivakcinalni pokret u svetu zaradi godišnje oko milijardu dolara od prihoda sa Fejsbuka, Instagrama i Jutjuba.


http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a673841/Epid ... olara.html

Evo ga "tata igre". Plasirao pricu za koju je i sam priznao da je lazna, ali ostala je kuca i voda manekenke zahvaljujuci "motivacionim govorima" koje naplacuje nekoliko stotina hiljada dolara. Bio u Hrvatskoj nedavno.

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hoce li biti analiza na N1 koliko pro-vaxeri zaradjuju na godisnjem nivou?

koliko CNN generalno uzme milijardi dolara na promovisanju vakcina i od farmaceutske industrije u totalu?
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#1227 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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@muhafuca koliko zaradjuju ispodprosjecni enterolozi sto je po struci bivsi ljekar Wakefield?
Drze po svijetu motivacijske govore koje naplacuju nekoliko stotina hiljada dolara da prezentuju istrazivanja za koje su i sami priznali da su lazirana?
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#1228 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Mogy87 wrote: 05/12/2020 19:45 @muhafuca koliko zaradjuju ispodprosjecni enterolozi sto je po struci bivsi ljekar Wakefield?
Drze po svijetu motivacijske govore koje naplacuju nekoliko stotina hiljada dolara da prezentuju istrazivanja za koje su i sami priznali da su lazirana?
koliko zaradjuje CNN od farmaceutske industrije da tusi i vakcine iizmedju ostalog?

koliko sama farmaceutska industrija eto samo u americi (da ne uzimamo globalni nivo) zaradjuje?

na motivacijski govor mozes otici ili ne otici niko te ne tjera - ko i na Torabija birvaktile kad je bio.
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muhafuca wrote: 05/12/2020 19:53
Mogy87 wrote: 05/12/2020 19:45 @muhafuca koliko zaradjuju ispodprosjecni enterolozi sto je po struci bivsi ljekar Wakefield?
Drze po svijetu motivacijske govore koje naplacuju nekoliko stotina hiljada dolara da prezentuju istrazivanja za koje su i sami priznali da su lazirana?
koliko zaradjuje CNN od farmaceutske industrije da tusi i vakcine iizmedju ostalog?

koliko sama farmaceutska industrija eto samo u americi (da ne uzimamo globalni nivo) zaradjuje?

na motivacijski govor mozes otici ili ne otici niko te ne tjera - ko i na Torabija birvaktile kad je bio.
Pitanje je bilo sta ljekare podstakne da iskoriste svoju titulu da obmanu javnost da vakcine izazivaju posljedice koje ne izazivaju.

Zakljucci Wakefilodove studije za koju je sam priznao da je lazirana su demantovani sa preko stotinu drugih ukljucujuci veliku dansku koja je pratila preko pola miliona djece 7 godina. Ali Wakefiled to odlicno zna. Da je iskoristio djecu s posebnim potrebama da dodje do vile i manekenki. Koliko je djece umrlo kao direktan rezultat sirenja dezinfomacija njega previse ne zanima.

Svakako ovoj raspravi nije ovdje mjesto jer moderacija stalno opominje. Mozemo nastaviti na Teorijama zavjera.
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Kurva uvijek može postati svetica, i obrnuto.

8-)
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#1231 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Gledam jutros na TV, u UK počinje vakcinacija iduće sedmice, prvi ce biti vakcinisani ljudi preko 80 godina.
Podijelili su trenutno sistem na 8-15 grupa, mijenjaće se grupe idući mjesec.
BTW, vakcina je u UK PRIVREMENO ODOBRENA. 8-)
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Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 07:45 Gledam jutros na TV, u UK počinje vakcinacija iduće sedmice, prvi ce biti vakcinisani ljudi preko 80 godina.
Podijelili su trenutno sistem na 8-15 grupa, mijenjaće se grupe idući mjesec.
BTW, vakcina je u UK PRIVREMENO ODOBRENA. 8-)
Da. Nastavice sa analizom podataka i u buducnosti.

Usput nisu je odobrili za 2 dana kako se pise vec podatke pregledaju od oktobra.

The decision by the UK regulatory authority was made with advice from the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), the government’s independent expert scientific advisory body. A dedicated team of MHRA scientists and clinicians carried out a rigorous, scientific and detailed review of all the available data, starting in October 2020.

This was done using a regulatory process known as a ‘rolling review’. A ‘rolling review’ can be used to complete the assessment of a promising medicine or vaccine during a public health emergency in the shortest time possible. This is done as the packages of data become available from ongoing studies on a staggered basis.

The MHRA expert scientists and clinicians reviewed data from the laboratory pre-clinical studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls, product sampling and testing of the final vaccine and also considered the conditions for its safe supply and distribution.

The National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, part of the agency, has been and will continue doing, independent laboratory testing so that every batch of the vaccine meets the expected standards of safety and quality.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-m ... 19-vaccine
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Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 07:54
Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 07:45 Gledam jutros na TV, u UK počinje vakcinacija iduće sedmice, prvi ce biti vakcinisani ljudi preko 80 godina.
Podijelili su trenutno sistem na 8-15 grupa, mijenjaće se grupe idući mjesec.
BTW, vakcina je u UK PRIVREMENO ODOBRENA. 8-)
Da. Nastavice sa analizom podataka i u buducnosti.

Usput nisu je odobrili za 2 dana kako se pise vec podatke pregledaju od oktobra.

The decision by the UK regulatory authority was made with advice from the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), the government’s independent expert scientific advisory body. A dedicated team of MHRA scientists and clinicians carried out a rigorous, scientific and detailed review of all the available data, starting in October 2020.

This was done using a regulatory process known as a ‘rolling review’. A ‘rolling review’ can be used to complete the assessment of a promising medicine or vaccine during a public health emergency in the shortest time possible. This is done as the packages of data become available from ongoing studies on a staggered basis.

The MHRA expert scientists and clinicians reviewed data from the laboratory pre-clinical studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls, product sampling and testing of the final vaccine and also considered the conditions for its safe supply and distribution.

The National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, part of the agency, has been and will continue doing, independent laboratory testing so that every batch of the vaccine meets the expected standards of safety and quality.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-m ... 19-vaccine
Sve OK, ja samo napisah da je privremeno odobrena, ništa manje, ništa više.
Dobro je da će prvo cijepiti ove iznad 80 godina. 8-) :lol:
Ne može se Mogy opustiti ni nedjeljom u 8 ujutro, adekvatni linkovi su spremni! 8-)
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#1234 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Edin H. wrote: 05/12/2020 18:16
laik1981 wrote: 05/12/2020 18:11
Edin H. wrote: 05/12/2020 17:07

Nije Solumova dzaba dobila nogu s posla :D
Meni nije jasno sta nju natjera na ovakve izjave? Koji je njen motiv? Koji je motiv bilo koga ko je bio u naucnim krugovima ili ko je i danas u naucnim krugovima, a palamude protiv vakcina? To je onako malo zagonetno..
Cipovanje :izet:

Former FEMA operative Celeste Solum talks with David Icke: ‘The Covid tests are magnetically tagging you and the vaccine is designed for mass depopulation and the synthetic transformation of the human body’

https://davidicke.com/2020/11/20/former ... -the-huma/
Nevjerojatno da ga ljudi uopste spominju poslije prognoze da će se zemlja zaustaviti na 3 sekunde i početi okretati u suprotnom smjeru.
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#1235 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 08:06
Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 07:54
Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 07:45 Gledam jutros na TV, u UK počinje vakcinacija iduće sedmice, prvi ce biti vakcinisani ljudi preko 80 godina.
Podijelili su trenutno sistem na 8-15 grupa, mijenjaće se grupe idući mjesec.
BTW, vakcina je u UK PRIVREMENO ODOBRENA. 8-)
Da. Nastavice sa analizom podataka i u buducnosti.

Usput nisu je odobrili za 2 dana kako se pise vec podatke pregledaju od oktobra.

The decision by the UK regulatory authority was made with advice from the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), the government’s independent expert scientific advisory body. A dedicated team of MHRA scientists and clinicians carried out a rigorous, scientific and detailed review of all the available data, starting in October 2020.

This was done using a regulatory process known as a ‘rolling review’. A ‘rolling review’ can be used to complete the assessment of a promising medicine or vaccine during a public health emergency in the shortest time possible. This is done as the packages of data become available from ongoing studies on a staggered basis.

The MHRA expert scientists and clinicians reviewed data from the laboratory pre-clinical studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls, product sampling and testing of the final vaccine and also considered the conditions for its safe supply and distribution.

The National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, part of the agency, has been and will continue doing, independent laboratory testing so that every batch of the vaccine meets the expected standards of safety and quality.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-m ... 19-vaccine
Sve OK, ja samo napisah da je privremeno odobrena, ništa manje, ništa više.
Dobro je da će prvo cijepiti ove iznad 80 godina. 8-) :lol:
Ne može se Mogy opustiti ni nedjeljom u 8 ujutro, adekvatni linkovi su spremni! 8-)
Rekoh ti ja da sam jutarnji tip :mrgreen:
Znam da ce tebi ovo biti sokantno, ali ljudi u UK se bukvalno jagme za vakcinu.
A covjek prosto ne moze biti pametan kome dati prvo, zato je i bilo toliko opcija. S jedne strane medicinski radnici jesu najizlozeniji, ali starci najvise umiru.
Bila je jedna varijanta prvo medicinski radnici radi logistike, ali spominjale su se rijeci poput “izdaje starijih”.

Initially only NHS staff are set to be given the jab, with care home residents and the over-80s having to wait. This is despite those two groups being classed by the government as top priorities for Covid immunisation, as they have the greatest risk of death from the disease. Care sector chiefs reacted angrily, warning that the move would be seen as a “betrayal”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ollout-nhs
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Kad vi ustajete nedjeljom ujutro?
Ovo je jedina tema koju više pratim nego li diskutujem.
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#1237 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 08:44
Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 08:06
Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 07:54

Da. Nastavice sa analizom podataka i u buducnosti.

Usput nisu je odobrili za 2 dana kako se pise vec podatke pregledaju od oktobra.

The decision by the UK regulatory authority was made with advice from the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), the government’s independent expert scientific advisory body. A dedicated team of MHRA scientists and clinicians carried out a rigorous, scientific and detailed review of all the available data, starting in October 2020.

This was done using a regulatory process known as a ‘rolling review’. A ‘rolling review’ can be used to complete the assessment of a promising medicine or vaccine during a public health emergency in the shortest time possible. This is done as the packages of data become available from ongoing studies on a staggered basis.

The MHRA expert scientists and clinicians reviewed data from the laboratory pre-clinical studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls, product sampling and testing of the final vaccine and also considered the conditions for its safe supply and distribution.

The National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, part of the agency, has been and will continue doing, independent laboratory testing so that every batch of the vaccine meets the expected standards of safety and quality.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-m ... 19-vaccine
Sve OK, ja samo napisah da je privremeno odobrena, ništa manje, ništa više.
Dobro je da će prvo cijepiti ove iznad 80 godina. 8-) :lol:
Ne može se Mogy opustiti ni nedjeljom u 8 ujutro, adekvatni linkovi su spremni! 8-)
Rekoh ti ja da sam jutarnji tip :mrgreen:
Znam da ce tebi ovo biti sokantno, ali ljudi u UK se bukvalno jagme za vakcinu.
A covjek prosto ne moze biti pametan kome dati prvo, zato je i bilo toliko opcija. S jedne strane medicinski radnici jesu najizlozeniji, ali starci najvise umiru.
Bila je jedna varijanta prvo medicinski radnici radi logistike, ali spominjale su se rijeci poput “izdaje starijih”.

Initially only NHS staff are set to be given the jab, with care home residents and the over-80s having to wait. This is despite those two groups being classed by the government as top priorities for Covid immunisation, as they have the greatest risk of death from the disease. Care sector chiefs reacted angrily, warning that the move would be seen as a “betrayal”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ollout-nhs
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Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 08:44
Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 08:06
Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 07:54

Da. Nastavice sa analizom podataka i u buducnosti.

Usput nisu je odobrili za 2 dana kako se pise vec podatke pregledaju od oktobra.

The decision by the UK regulatory authority was made with advice from the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), the government’s independent expert scientific advisory body. A dedicated team of MHRA scientists and clinicians carried out a rigorous, scientific and detailed review of all the available data, starting in October 2020.

This was done using a regulatory process known as a ‘rolling review’. A ‘rolling review’ can be used to complete the assessment of a promising medicine or vaccine during a public health emergency in the shortest time possible. This is done as the packages of data become available from ongoing studies on a staggered basis.

The MHRA expert scientists and clinicians reviewed data from the laboratory pre-clinical studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls, product sampling and testing of the final vaccine and also considered the conditions for its safe supply and distribution.

The National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, part of the agency, has been and will continue doing, independent laboratory testing so that every batch of the vaccine meets the expected standards of safety and quality.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-m ... 19-vaccine
Sve OK, ja samo napisah da je privremeno odobrena, ništa manje, ništa više.
Dobro je da će prvo cijepiti ove iznad 80 godina. 8-) :lol:
Ne može se Mogy opustiti ni nedjeljom u 8 ujutro, adekvatni linkovi su spremni! 8-)
Rekoh ti ja da sam jutarnji tip :mrgreen:
Znam da ce tebi ovo biti sokantno, ali ljudi u UK se bukvalno jagme za vakcinu.
A covjek prosto ne moze biti pametan kome dati prvo, zato je i bilo toliko opcija. S jedne strane medicinski radnici jesu najizlozeniji, ali starci najvise umiru.
Bila je jedna varijanta prvo medicinski radnici radi logistike, ali spominjale su se rijeci poput “izdaje starijih”.

Initially only NHS staff are set to be given the jab, with care home residents and the over-80s having to wait. This is despite those two groups being classed by the government as top priorities for Covid immunisation, as they have the greatest risk of death from the disease. Care sector chiefs reacted angrily, warning that the move would be seen as a “betrayal”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ollout-nhs
Zasto bi mi bilo sokantno a se ljudi u UK jagme za vakcinu? :roll:
Gledao sam to jutros, drago mi je zbog njih.
Uz ovu medijsku kampanju kampanju kojoj smo i mi svjedoci na najpopularnijim portalima i koji nas bombarduju vijestima o vakcini, nakon predsjednika koji zavrcu rukave, i sl, logicno mi je da ce se narod jagmiti. :lol:
Prvo dati kraljici, pa onda svim ostalim. :thumbup:
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#1239 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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splinter wrote: 06/12/2020 09:00 Kad vi ustajete nedjeljom ujutro?
Ovo je jedina tema koju više pratim nego li diskutujem.
Ja oko 0600-0630.
Nisam u nekim godinama, ali valjda navikao, zbog posla.
A volim i na miru popiti prvu jutarnju, dok cheljad jos spava i ne zajebava! :lol:
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#1240 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 09:43
splinter wrote: 06/12/2020 09:00 Kad vi ustajete nedjeljom ujutro?
Ovo je jedina tema koju više pratim nego li diskutujem.
Ja oko 0600-0630.
Nisam u nekim godinama, ali valjda navikao, zbog posla.
A volim i na miru popiti prvu jutarnju, dok cheljad jos spava i ne zajebava! :lol:
Ma ja radnim danima 5 i 20 , subota i ned. pola 8.
Vidim dosta materijala na ovoj temi, kasnije ću da isčitam detalkni .Dobro je kad ovako ima informacija na jednom mjestu.
Predlažem moderatoru da postavi anketu tipa da li se planirate vakcinisati.
Dolazilo bi dosta raje i s drugih tema da glasaju , siguran sam
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#1241 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 09:41 Prvo dati kraljici, pa onda svim ostalim. :thumbup:
Čuli te, Elizabeta zavrće rukav. :)

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/kral ... /201206008
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https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/hrvatsk ... /201206005

Ma bravo idioti,u svemu smo vazda zadnji.
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pojedinac wrote: 05/12/2020 16:08
Prva cjepiva sadržat će „Opticfluid“ (hidrogel, kvantna tačka, optičkomagnetska, optofluidna, mikrofluidna)
koji će se umnožiti sa vlagom iz tijela što na kraju kao posljedicu ima smrt kao rezultat. (sloj sluzi u plućima)
To se nalazi također na PCR pamučnim štapićima i nekim maskama za lice.
Ovo se ne može ukloniti iz tijela.
Izvor: Celeste Solum (bivša zaposlenica FEMA-e)
Jes, jes, fact check, FEMA nikad nije imala nikakvu zaposlenu Celeste Solum... :D

Izvor: FEMA (Reuters)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reu ... SKBN23838E
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#1246 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Eno u rusiji protesti 20 ljudi samo pade i izdahnu ... kasnije kazu primili vakcinu ... samo ih ugasio putin na dugme :izet:
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#1247 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 09:37
Mogy87 wrote: 06/12/2020 08:44
Naslovnica wrote: 06/12/2020 08:06
Sve OK, ja samo napisah da je privremeno odobrena, ništa manje, ništa više.
Dobro je da će prvo cijepiti ove iznad 80 godina. 8-) :lol:
Ne može se Mogy opustiti ni nedjeljom u 8 ujutro, adekvatni linkovi su spremni! 8-)
Rekoh ti ja da sam jutarnji tip :mrgreen:
Znam da ce tebi ovo biti sokantno, ali ljudi u UK se bukvalno jagme za vakcinu.
A covjek prosto ne moze biti pametan kome dati prvo, zato je i bilo toliko opcija. S jedne strane medicinski radnici jesu najizlozeniji, ali starci najvise umiru.
Bila je jedna varijanta prvo medicinski radnici radi logistike, ali spominjale su se rijeci poput “izdaje starijih”.

Initially only NHS staff are set to be given the jab, with care home residents and the over-80s having to wait. This is despite those two groups being classed by the government as top priorities for Covid immunisation, as they have the greatest risk of death from the disease. Care sector chiefs reacted angrily, warning that the move would be seen as a “betrayal”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ollout-nhs
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Hvala, hvala. Ja litru do tad popila :mrgreen:
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Postoji li neki rad koji objašnjava koliko je vakcina bezbjedna i kako utiče na ljude koji imaju neke autoimune bolesti, smije li je primiti neko ko ima hipoterozu, Hašimoto, npr.? Ili dotle još nisu stigli u istraživanjima?
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#1249 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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banjaluka078 wrote: 07/12/2020 11:16 Postoji li neki rad koji objašnjava koliko je vakcina bezbjedna i kako utiče na ljude koji imaju neke autoimune bolesti, smije li je primiti neko ko ima hipoterozu, Hašimoto, npr.? Ili dotle još nisu stigli u istraživanjima?
Ne zna se. Proizvodjac ce sigurno naglasiti koja su to stanja kod kojih se ne preporucuje vakcinacija. Ali to moramo jos malo pricekati.
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#1250 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News

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Tuga je da ovi "borci za prava onkoloskih pacijenata" nisu svjesni koliko ce upravo njima pomoci cinjenica da su se nezamislive kolicine novca utrosile za usavrsavanje mRNA tehnologije.

Upravo na njoj je zasnovana revolucionarna, ali nezamislivo skupa imunoterapija. Pa sam BioNtech je kompanija specijalizovana upravo za to podrucje.

S druge strane ideja koristenja RNA kao lijeka postoji vec dugi niz godina.

Fomivirsen je lijek zasnovan na ovoj tehnologiji i odobren 1998. godine. Korišten je za ozbiljne infekcije oka izazvane CMV virusom kod imunokompromitovanih osoba. To je posebno važno jer se dodatna pažnja posvećuje osobama koje imaju "oslabljen" imunološki sistem. Upravo je ova tehnologija i koristena jer za takve osobe uobicajena terapija nije bila adekvatna.

Ovo je FDA odobrenja iz 1998. godine.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatf ... ravene.cfm
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