Novi korona virus - velika opasnost ili ne ? POGLEDATI PRVI POST!

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#35728 Re: Novi korona virus - velika opasnost ili ne ? POGLEDATI PRVI POST!

Post by insaneinthebrain » 25/11/2020 08:24

:shock:
Coronavirus Cases:
60,126,709


Deaths:
1,415,226

Recovered:
41,570,652


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#35730 Re: Novi korona virus - velika opasnost ili ne ? POGLEDATI PRVI POST!

Post by Lao Ce » 25/11/2020 11:58

geralt wrote:
24/11/2020 18:40
Lao Ce wrote:
24/11/2020 17:31
Ja se izvinjavam ako sam pogrešno interpretirao tekst, odnsono postavio test koji je pogrešno interpretiran. Zaista. Ali to ne znači da su PCR testovi pouzdani. Sigurno je bilo dosta govora o tome ovdje. Ali isto tako očekujem od tebe i sličnih da priznaju da PCr testovi nisu pouzdani, kao i mnoge druge stvari koje se ovdje postavljaju kao vjerozakon i mantra i sa kojima se manipulše, što čisto sumnjam da će itko od vas uraditi. Odgovarate i reagujete samo na postavljene postove kojima možete dokazati da ste u pravu, a 95% postova ignorišete, niti se javljate na njih.
Posto imam licnog iskustva sa PCR testovima, necu se "gadjati studijama" (iako one nisu na tvojoj strani), vec cu jednostavno podijeliti svoja iskustva.

Prije dva mjeseca imao temperaturu, ispostavice se od obicne upale grla. Testiran, PCR test negativan.

Nakon toga majka isla u bolnicu radi nevezane stvari, nije imala simptome, rutinski testirana, PCR test negativan.

Kad se korona pojavila u mojoj kancelariji, cetvero simptomatskih kolega testirano (dvoje razvilo upale pluca, treci izgubio culo mirisa), svi PCR testirani, svi pozitivni.

Nakon njih ja razvio simptome, PCR test pozitivan. Zena razvila simptome dan nakon mene, izgubila culo mirisa, PCR test pozitivan.

Kolega iz nevezanog klastera imao obostranu upalu pluca, prvi dan po pojavi simptoma se testirao privatno (kontra vazecih smjernica kad se treba testirati), PCR negativan. Ponovio test kad mu se pogorsalo stanje, PCR pozitivan.

Dvoje clanova porodice razvilo srednje teske simptome nakon kontakta sa pozitivnim, jedno dobilo obostranu upalu pluca, oba PCR pozitivna.

Prijatelj imao teske simptome, hospitaliziran radi pada saturacije kisikom, proveo preko sedmice u bolnici, i njemu i zeni PCR pozitivan.

Dakle od 14 testova radjenim ili na meni ili na meni bliskim ljudima za koje mogu biti siguran jesu li ispravni, 13 je bilo ispravno, tacnost 92,8%. Ako racunamo samo testove uradjene "po P.S-u", tacnost je 100%.
I ja sam za lična iskustva ili za iskustva ljudi, gdje je od mnogih potvrđene kontradikcije i slično. Možda je haos blaga riječ u vezi testiranja i rezultata. Znamo da se u zadnje vrijeme DOGAĐA da ljudi koji su se željeli testirati a koji to nisu uradili iz nekog razloga, da se proglašavaju pozitivnim. Od poznanika supruga zadobila srednje do teži oblik kliničke slike sa pojavom upale pluća. Uradila test u takvom stanju koji je ispao negativan zbog čega je nisu htjeli primiti u bolnicu. Čovjek otišao kod privatnika, pofino platio testiranje gdje je test pokazao da je pozitivna i na jedvite jade uspio da je ubaci u bolnicu na liječenje. A o našem zdravstvenom sisitemu da ne govorimo, koji je za mene najveći krivac za ovakvo stanje. I onda sve svaljuju na običan puk. I političari, i zdravstveni radnici,, kao i mediji koji svi zajedno pušu sinhronizovano u isti rog.

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Post by Mogy87 » 25/11/2020 14:42

Von der Leyen: Covid-19 prošlog tjedna vodeći uzrok smrti u EU

Bolest izazvana novim koronavirusom vodeći je uzrok smrti prošlog tjedna u Europskoj uniji i odnijela je svaki dan 3000 života, rekla je predsjednica Europske komisije Ursula von der Leyen u srijedu.

"Prvi europski građani mogli bi dobiti cjepivo prije kraja prosinca."

Nakon što je nekoliko proizvođača cjepiva izvijestilo o obećavajućim rezultatima kliničkih ispitivanja, članice Europske unije "moraju se pripremiti - pripremiti sada" za raspodjelu milijuna doza, rekla je njemačka političarka i šefica europske izvršne vlasti.

Europska komisija postigla je šest ugovora s velikim farmaceutskim tvrtkama u ime 27 zemalja članica o kupovini cjepiva.

https://vijesti.hrt.hr/681822/von-der-l ... smrti-u-eu

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Post by Lao Ce » 25/11/2020 17:06

Neme veze što je tako, bitno je da se maske nose...
No evidence’ that asymptomatic Covid-19 cases were infectious, analysis of post-lockdown Wuhan concludes

https://www.rt.com/news/507402-wuhan-as ... -at82o6O-c

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Post by MUNAFIK » 25/11/2020 17:11

insaneinthebrain wrote:
25/11/2020 08:24
:shock:
Coronavirus Cases:
60,126,709


Deaths:
1,415,226

Recovered:
41,570,652
I ovaj broj slucajeva Covid-19 pomoži minimalno sa 20... a vjerovatno i duplo više...

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Post by adsubzero » 25/11/2020 17:31

MUNAFIK wrote:
25/11/2020 17:11
insaneinthebrain wrote:
25/11/2020 08:24
:shock:
Coronavirus Cases:
60,126,709


Deaths:
1,415,226

Recovered:
41,570,652
I ovaj broj slucajeva Covid-19 pomoži minimalno sa 20... a vjerovatno i duplo više...
E jbg sad...

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Post by Dozer » 25/11/2020 20:20

Malo stvari koje svako moze provjeriti. Ako hoce, naravno.

Cinjenice o Sars-Cov-2


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Post by Lao Ce » 26/11/2020 08:39

Dobro jutro,
Dr. Dr. Mike Yeadon is former vice president of Pfizer and former chief scientist of the company who was in charge of allergies and respiratory diseases. He recently published an author's text about the coronavirus pandemic in the UK, and many media around the world have downloaded this text (link to one of those texts at the end of the post). Here's a brief summary of the basic things dr points out. Yeadon.

There is absolutely no need for vaccines to shut down the pandemic because the pandemic is actually over. Don't vaccinate people who are not in danger of illness. Also don't plan on vaccinating millions of healthy people with vaccines that aren't extensively tested on people. The instinct for universal vaccine has a ′′ breath of evil ′′ that I will ′′ vigorously oppose ". A very small number of people in the world will need a vaccine against Covid-19 because the death rate is low, and the disease obviously does not cause excess mortality.
- It is interesting that there is evidence that in Great Britain they are preparing for a large number of harmful effects after vaccination against Covid-19. The government has published a request for an offer for ′′ extreme urgent reasons ′′ ′′ artificial intelligence software (AI) to handle a large amount of harmful effects after vaccination against Covid-19 ".
- No successful and effective vaccine has ever been developed against any previous coronavirus!

- Results of some of the vaccine trials on people include ′′ severe ′′ complications, headaches, heat, body aches and symptoms similar to ′′ severe hangover ". Further, as the New York Times emphasized, Pfizer's initial claim that their vaccine was ′′ more ′′ of 90 percent effective ", it was published in a statement not in a reviewed medical magazine. And this is not the final proof that the vaccine is safe and effective ".
- There are currently no surplus deaths in the UK as the number of coronavirus infections rises. Data shows many deaths - primarily people aged 45 to 65 with gender equality - mostly caused by heart disease, stroke and cancer, suggesting that these excessive deaths are caused by lack of routine medical care and services due to the restrictions imposed by the pandemic. (This is also very important in case of health care in Bosnia and Herzegovina and the number of deaths from coronavirus).
- PCR test is not a valid diagnostic tool and should not be used to this extent. It has a big rate of false positive results that only feeds people's fear. Every time you step up your PCR test to more than 30 cycles you get a false positive result. (CDC and WHO are now recommending PCR tests to be used between 40 and 45 cycles! )
- It's a false assumption that 100 percent of the population is sensitive to the virus, and only 7 percent of the infected are so far. This is just a simple stupidity. We have data that already 30 percent of the population has previous immunity, and if small children who are resistant anyway, it is 40 percent. Given that the rate of infection is 30 percent, then around 65 to 72 percent of the population currently has immunity to Covid-19. Only 22 percent of UK respondents say they would immediately receive a vaccine against Covid - 19.
- Despite between 65 to 72 percent of people already have immunity, there seems to be a willingness to follow the globalist campaign led by Bill Gates and vaccinate all the people in the UK and worldwide. Giving these vaccines to hundreds of millions of people, when the common rate of serious complications with vaccines is high, negative results can be significant. For example, one study of the flu vaccine applied to adults over 65 years, determined the rate of approximately one percent of those with serious side effects. If the Covid-19 vaccine was only given with similar traits then in the same age group (54 million UK residents) it would be 540.000 people who might need medical care in a hospital system that has less than 54 925.000 beds!

Facebook is blocking posting this text because they really care not to see or hear this in public. That's why I'm posting a link to the PDF version of this text.Great text. A must read. Dr. Dr. Mike Yeadon is former vice president of Pfizer and former chief scientist of the company who was in charge of allergies and respiratory diseases. He recently published an author's text about the coronavirus pandemic in the UK, and many media around the world have downloaded this text (link to one of those texts at the end of the post). Here's a brief summary of the basic things dr points out. Yeadon.
- There is absolutely no need for vaccines to shut down the pandemic because the pandemic is actually over. Don't vaccinate people who are not in danger of illness. Also don't plan on vaccinating millions of healthy people with vaccines that aren't extensively tested on people. The instinct for universal vaccine has a ′′ breath of evil ′′ that I will ′′ vigorously oppose ". A very small number of people in the world will need a vaccine against Covid-19 because the death rate is low, and the disease obviously does not cause excess mortality.
- It is interesting that there is evidence that in Great Britain they are preparing for a large number of harmful effects after vaccination against Covid-19. The government has published a request for an offer for ′′ extreme urgent reasons ′′ ′′ artificial intelligence software (AI) to handle a large amount of harmful effects after vaccination against Covid-19 ".
- No successful and effective vaccine has ever been developed against any previous coronavirus!
- Results of some of the vaccine trials on people include ′′ severe ′′ complications, headaches, heat, body aches and symptoms similar to ′′ severe hangover ". Further, as the New York Times emphasized, Pfizer's initial claim that their vaccine was ′′ more ′′ of 90 percent effective ", it was published in a statement not in a reviewed medical magazine. And this is not the final proof that the vaccine is safe and effective ".
- There are currently no surplus deaths in the UK as the number of coronavirus infections rises. Data shows many deaths - primarily people aged 45 to 65 with gender equality - mostly caused by heart disease, stroke and cancer, suggesting that these excessive deaths are caused by lack of routine medical care and services due to the restrictions imposed by the pandemic. (This is also very important in case of health care in Bosnia and Herzegovina and the number of deaths from coronavirus).
- PCR test is not a valid diagnostic tool and should not be used to this extent. It has a big rate of false positive results that only feeds people's fear. Every time you step up your PCR test to more than 30 cycles you get a false positive result. (CDC and WHO are now recommending PCR tests to be used between 40 and 45 cycles! )
- It's a false assumption that 100 percent of the population is sensitive to the virus, and only 7 percent of the infected are so far. This is just a simple stupidity. We have data that already 30 percent of the population has previous immunity, and if small children who are resistant anyway, it is 40 percent. Given that the rate of infection is 30 percent, then around 65 to 72 percent of the population currently has immunity to Covid-19. Only 22 percent of UK respondents say they would immediately receive a vaccine against Covid - 19.
- Despite between 65 to 72 percent of people already have immunity, there seems to be a willingness to follow the globalist campaign led by Bill Gates and vaccinate all the people in the UK and worldwide. Giving these vaccines to hundreds of millions of people, when the common rate of serious complications with vaccines is high, negative results can be significant. For example, one study of the flu vaccine applied to adults over 65 years, determined the rate of approximately one percent of those with serious side effects. If the Covid-19 vaccine was only given with similar traits then in the same age group (54 million UK residents) it would be 540.000 people who might need medical care in a hospital system that has less than 54 925.000 beds!
Facebook is blocking posting this text because they really care not to see or hear this in public. That's why I'm posting a link to the PDF version of this text.

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Post by AmirBaa » 26/11/2020 09:58

insaneinthebrain wrote:
25/11/2020 08:24
:shock:
Coronavirus Cases:
60,126,709


Deaths:
1,415,226

Recovered:
41,570,652
17,169,286 (99.4%)
in Mild Condition

104,500 (0.6%)
Serious or Critical

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Post by geralt » 26/11/2020 10:57

AmirBaa wrote:
26/11/2020 09:58
insaneinthebrain wrote:
25/11/2020 08:24
:shock:
Coronavirus Cases:
60,126,709


Deaths:
1,415,226

Recovered:
41,570,652
17,169,286 (99.4%)
in Mild Condition

104,500 (0.6%)
Serious or Critical
A onda odes na BiH i vidis da je prijavljeno 0 ozbiljnih/kriticnih slucajeva. Ili oni sa Podhrastova na respiratorima foliraju, ili je statistika koju citiras bezvrijedna.

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Post by AmirBaa » 26/11/2020 11:01

geralt wrote:
26/11/2020 10:57
AmirBaa wrote:
26/11/2020 09:58
insaneinthebrain wrote:
25/11/2020 08:24
:shock:

17,169,286 (99.4%)
in Mild Condition

104,500 (0.6%)
Serious or Critical
A onda odes na BiH i vidis da je prijavljeno 0 ozbiljnih/kriticnih slucajeva. Ili oni sa Podhrastova na respiratorima foliraju, ili je statistika koju citiras bezvrijedna.
Sto onda nisu bezvrijedni brojevi umrlih i zarazenih ako ne valja ova statistika ?

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Post by laik1981 » 26/11/2020 11:02

Bezvrijedna je koliko i ostale cifre na tom brojcaniku. Mnoge drzave i ne prijavljuju brojke oporavljenih..

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Post by AmirBaa » 26/11/2020 13:11

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/koj ... _tid=72633

"Kako bi dobili bolji uvid u stvarnu stopu smrtnosti, Brazeau i njegovi kolege pregledali su 175 studija o stopama smrtnosti covida-19 i ustvrdili kako ih je samo 10 bilo pouzdano. Nakon što su prilagodili podatke najvjerodostojnijim istraživanjima, izračunali su stopu smrtnosti za svaku dobnu skupinu.

Analiza je pokazala da za osobe mlađe od 40 godina stopa smrtnosti iznosi manje od 0,1 posto, za one između 50 i 54 godine starosti – 0.36%, za one između 70 i 74 godine 2.17% i 5% za starije od 80 godina."

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Post by AmirBaa » 26/11/2020 13:57

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2 ... ronavirus/
"This doctor wants you to know what dying of Covid-19 could look like
An ICU doctor posted an unfiltered simulation of the last things a person might see before dying of Covid-19"

Kakvo zaglupljivanje, kakva odvratna patetika, pa ne znam ima li goreg medija od ovog CNN-a...

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Post by daddy-kool » 26/11/2020 14:08

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/i-an ... /201126054
I Angela Merkel traži zatvaranje svih skijališta u Evropi, Austrija se još odupire

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Post by vjeshalica » 26/11/2020 14:27

Kakvo je stanje u Kini? Nisam odavno cula neke vijesti konkretno, usutili se meni se cini i to ima par mjeseci...nekako mi sumLJivo to...

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Post by Mogy87 » 26/11/2020 14:38

vjeshalica wrote:
26/11/2020 14:27
Kakvo je stanje u Kini? Nisam odavno cula neke vijesti konkretno, usutili se meni se cini i to ima par mjeseci...nekako mi sumLJivo to...
Ako ti nesto znaci moje misljenje: ja mislim da lazu cim zinu. Nista im ne vjerujem.

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Post by escobar__ » 26/11/2020 14:42

Mogy87 wrote:
26/11/2020 14:38
vjeshalica wrote:
26/11/2020 14:27
Kakvo je stanje u Kini? Nisam odavno cula neke vijesti konkretno, usutili se meni se cini i to ima par mjeseci...nekako mi sumLJivo to...
Ako ti nesto znaci moje misljenje: ja mislim da lazu cim zinu. Nista im ne vjerujem.
Ako lažu Kinezi onda mogu lagat i ovi s druge strane, slažeš li se?

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Post by Mogy87 » 26/11/2020 14:45

escobar__ wrote:
26/11/2020 14:42
Mogy87 wrote:
26/11/2020 14:38
vjeshalica wrote:
26/11/2020 14:27
Kakvo je stanje u Kini? Nisam odavno cula neke vijesti konkretno, usutili se meni se cini i to ima par mjeseci...nekako mi sumLJivo to...
Ako ti nesto znaci moje misljenje: ja mislim da lazu cim zinu. Nista im ne vjerujem.
Ako lažu Kinezi onda mogu lagat i ovi s druge strane, slažeš li se?
Mozes li malo precizirati na koga konkretno mislis kad kazes “ovi s druge strane”?

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Post by escobar__ » 26/11/2020 14:51

Mogy87 wrote:
26/11/2020 14:45
escobar__ wrote:
26/11/2020 14:42
Mogy87 wrote:
26/11/2020 14:38


Ako ti nesto znaci moje misljenje: ja mislim da lazu cim zinu. Nista im ne vjerujem.
Ako lažu Kinezi onda mogu lagat i ovi s druge strane, slažeš li se?
Mozes li malo precizirati na koga konkretno mislis kad kazes “ovi s druge strane”?
Nije važno, bilo ko osim Kineza.

Ako Kinezi manipulišu brojevima (a i ja lično mislim da manipulišu), ko tebi, meni ili nekom trećem može garantovat da njima ne manipulišu naši, Hrvati, Šveđani, Nijemci?

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Post by Mogy87 » 26/11/2020 14:57

escobar__ wrote:
26/11/2020 14:51
Mogy87 wrote:
26/11/2020 14:45
escobar__ wrote:
26/11/2020 14:42


Ako lažu Kinezi onda mogu lagat i ovi s druge strane, slažeš li se?
Mozes li malo precizirati na koga konkretno mislis kad kazes “ovi s druge strane”?
Nije važno, bilo ko osim Kineza.

Ako Kinezi manipulišu brojevima (a i ja lično mislim da manipulišu), ko tebi, meni ili nekom trećem može garantovat da njima ne manipulišu naši, Hrvati, Šveđani, Nijemci?
Mislim da u ovoj krizi je najmanji problem sto Kinezi manipulisu (ili ne manipulisu) brojkama. Mislim da su nas njihovi postupci doveli u ovu situaciju.

Vjerujem da ti ne moram objasnjavati razliku izmedju socijalisticke drzave koju vodi komunisticka partija i zapadnih kapitalistickih ekonomija. I protok informacija u ta 2 sistema u digitalnom dobu.

I da se ne lazemo, vrijednost ljudskog zivota koji je itekako razlicit na Istoku i u Zapadnoj Evropi.

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