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Sakazulu
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#22351 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Evo ovako to izgleda kad godinama kukaš kako tv signal ne radi kad je pod bilo kakvim opterećenjem dok surfaš po netu
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#22354 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Novi je ruter. 4 u nizu svih ovih godina ali nikako da proradi
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#22356 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Ma meni zajebava nov ili star... Nema razlike. Iako je ovaj nov
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#22357 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Pa da vidimo kakav ti je signal, jacina i one greske. Mozda je do stare parice, loseg spoja...
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#22358 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Jesi li mislio na ovo?
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 9.6 dB
output power downstream: 12.5 dbm
attenuation upstream: 9.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0b aa bb bb bb bc bb cc bc bc bc cc cc cc cc cc
tone 96-127: cc dc dc dc dd dc cc dd dd cd dd dd dd dd dd dd
tone 128-159: de ed dd ed ed dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd ed dd de
tone 160-191: ee dd dd ee dd dd de dd dd de ee ed de ed ed dd
tone 192-223: dd de ee dd dd de ee ed ed ed ed dd dd dd de dd
tone 224-255: dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd ed ed dd dd dd dd dd
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#22359 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Ok za prvi dio. Ovaj drugi sam mislio na FEC, CRC i HEC.Sakazulu wrote: ↑21/11/2020 18:16
Jesi li mislio na ovo?
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 9.6 dB
output power downstream: 12.5 dbm
attenuation upstream: 9.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0b aa bb bb bb bc bb cc bc bc bc cc cc cc cc cc
tone 96-127: cc dc dc dc dd dc cc dd dd cd dd dd dd dd dd dd
tone 128-159: de ed dd ed ed dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd ed dd de
tone 160-191: ee dd dd ee dd dd de dd dd de ee ed de ed ed dd
tone 192-223: dd de ee dd dd de ee ed ed ed ed dd dd dd de dd
tone 224-255: dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd ed ed dd dd dd dd dd
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#22361 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Na istom tom mjestu gdje si kopirao Upstream i bittable kopiraj onda iznad Downstram i iznad downstreama imaju te greske.
Kod mene je ovako i nema trzanja ni stekanja.
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Line State: Up
Modulation: ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex Mode: ANNEX_B
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INP downstream: 58439
INP upstream: 16436
shineGINPdownstream: 0
shineGINPupstream: 0
reinGINPdownstream: 0
reinGINPupstream: 0
TPSTC type: 64/65B PTM TC
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 90442 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 47925 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
near-end FEC error fast: 0
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near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 0
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 0
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 56978
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 49
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
DSL uptime :12 days, 1:03, 36 secs
DSL activetime :0 min, 19 secs
Downstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin downstream: 9.4 dB
output power upstream: 9.4 dbm
attenuation downstream: 2.2 dB
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 6.0 dB
output power downstream: 13.9 dbm
attenuation upstream: 1.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
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tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0d cd dc dd dd dd dd dd ed dd dd ed ed de ee ee
tone 96-127: ee fe ee ee ee ee fe ee ef ee ff fe ef fe fe ff
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tone 160-191: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
tone 192-223: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
tone 224-255: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff fd ff ff ff
Modulation: ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex Mode: ANNEX_B
=============================================================================
INP downstream: 58439
INP upstream: 16436
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shineGINPupstream: 0
reinGINPdownstream: 0
reinGINPupstream: 0
TPSTC type: 64/65B PTM TC
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 90442 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 47925 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
near-end FEC error fast: 0
near-end FEC error interleaved: 556113
near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 0
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 0
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 56978
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 49
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
DSL uptime :12 days, 1:03, 36 secs
DSL activetime :0 min, 19 secs
Downstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin downstream: 9.4 dB
output power upstream: 9.4 dbm
attenuation downstream: 2.2 dB
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 6.0 dB
output power downstream: 13.9 dbm
attenuation upstream: 1.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0d cd dc dd dd dd dd dd ed dd dd ed ed de ee ee
tone 96-127: ee fe ee ee ee ee fe ee ef ee ff fe ef fe fe ff
tone 128-159: ef ff ff ef ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
tone 160-191: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
tone 192-223: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
tone 224-255: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff fd ff ff ff
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#22362 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
=============================================================================
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Line State: Up
Modulation: ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex Mode: ANNEX_B
=============================================================================
TPSTC type: 64/65B PTM TC
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 94568 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 32426 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
near-end FEC error fast: 0
near-end FEC error interleaved: 48631
near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 2430
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 0
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 558
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 0
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
DSL uptime :3 days, 1:21, 15 secs
DSL activetime :0 min, 21 secs
Downstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin downstream: 9.0 dB
output power upstream: 9.1 dbm
attenuation downstream: 5.9 dB
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 9.6 dB
output power downstream: 12.5 dbm
attenuation upstream: 9.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0a aa bb bb bc bc bb cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
tone 96-127: cc dc cc dc dc cc cc dd dd cd dd dd dd dd dd dd
tone 128-159: ed dd de dd ed dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de
tone 160-191: ed dd dd dd dd dd ed dd ed ee de ed de de dd de
tone 192-223: ed ee ee dd ee ed ed ed de de ed ed ee ee dd ee
tone 224-255: de ed de de dd ec dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de dd
xDSLFwVersion: FwVer:5.12.12.0_B_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.0
Line State: Up
Modulation: ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex Mode: ANNEX_B
=============================================================================
TPSTC type: 64/65B PTM TC
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 94568 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 32426 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
near-end FEC error fast: 0
near-end FEC error interleaved: 48631
near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 2430
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 0
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 558
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 0
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
DSL uptime :3 days, 1:21, 15 secs
DSL activetime :0 min, 21 secs
Downstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin downstream: 9.0 dB
output power upstream: 9.1 dbm
attenuation downstream: 5.9 dB
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 9.6 dB
output power downstream: 12.5 dbm
attenuation upstream: 9.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0a aa bb bb bc bc bb cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
tone 96-127: cc dc cc dc dc cc cc dd dd cd dd dd dd dd dd dd
tone 128-159: ed dd de dd ed dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de
tone 160-191: ed dd dd dd dd dd ed dd ed ee de ed de de dd de
tone 192-223: ed ee ee dd ee ed ed ed de de ed ed ee ee dd ee
tone 224-255: de ed de de dd ec dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de dd
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#22363 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Sakazulu wrote: ↑22/11/2020 17:42 =============================================================================
xDSLFwVersion: FwVer:5.12.12.0_B_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.0
Line State: Up
Modulation: ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex Mode: ANNEX_B
=============================================================================
TPSTC type: 64/65B PTM TC
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 94568 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 32426 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
near-end FEC error fast: 0
near-end FEC error interleaved: 48631
near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 2430
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 0
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 558
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 0
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
DSL uptime :3 days, 1:21, 15 secs
DSL activetime :0 min, 21 secs
Downstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin downstream: 9.0 dB
output power upstream: 9.1 dbm
attenuation downstream: 5.9 dB
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 9.6 dB
output power downstream: 12.5 dbm
attenuation upstream: 9.5 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 0a aa bb bb bc bc bb cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
tone 96-127: cc dc cc dc dc cc cc dd dd cd dd dd dd dd dd dd
tone 128-159: ed dd de dd ed dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de
tone 160-191: ed dd dd dd dd dd ed dd ed ee de ed de de dd de
tone 192-223: ed ee ee dd ee ed ed ed de de ed ed ee ee dd ee
tone 224-255: de ed de de dd ec dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de dd
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#22365 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
fula... ne znam, merebit k'o kod Marc-André-a danaske, a merebit sve ok, nijesam poodavno u tijem vodama, sacekaj @MTV on ce ti sve kasti... 
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#22366 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Pozdrav ljudi. Do sada sam koristio samo Logosoft internet i bio jako zadovoljan. Nedavno odlucim da predjem na slagalicu i jako sam razocaran uslugom televizije. Ono je patnja za koristiti, tako los responsiveness sistema me vratio u najmanje 2005. godinu. Dok odreaguje na moj input sa daljinskog, a posebno ako ih vise ide odjednom. Presporo prebacivanje kanala.
Trazio sam po ovoj temi da li se jos iko zalio, ali nisam uspio naci. Zvao sam Logosoft, oni su nesto radili u pozadini, ali stanje je ostalo totalno isto. Ako hocu vise kanala odjednom da preskocim toliko zastopa da izgubim dokle sam stigao, pa preskoci i vise nego sam htio. Odlazak u EPG da vratim program na nekom kanalu je bas za izgubiti zivce. Napravio sam favorites listu samo da mi je barem malo lakse koristiti, da ne moram preskakati kanale koje ne gledam. Da li ovo nesto nije ok ili svi imaju isto samo mozda "trpe"?
Trazio sam po ovoj temi da li se jos iko zalio, ali nisam uspio naci. Zvao sam Logosoft, oni su nesto radili u pozadini, ali stanje je ostalo totalno isto. Ako hocu vise kanala odjednom da preskocim toliko zastopa da izgubim dokle sam stigao, pa preskoci i vise nego sam htio. Odlazak u EPG da vratim program na nekom kanalu je bas za izgubiti zivce. Napravio sam favorites listu samo da mi je barem malo lakse koristiti, da ne moram preskakati kanale koje ne gledam. Da li ovo nesto nije ok ili svi imaju isto samo mozda "trpe"?
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#22367 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Amino STB?adsol wrote: ↑22/11/2020 19:12 Pozdrav ljudi. Do sada sam koristio samo Logosoft internet i bio jako zadovoljan. Nedavno odlucim da predjem na slagalicu i jako sam razocaran uslugom televizije. Ono je patnja za koristiti, tako los responsiveness sistema me vratio u najmanje 2005. godinu. Dok odreaguje na moj input sa daljinskog, a posebno ako ih vise ide odjednom. Presporo prebacivanje kanala.
Trazio sam po ovoj temi da li se jos iko zalio, ali nisam uspio naci. Zvao sam Logosoft, oni su nesto radili u pozadini, ali stanje je ostalo totalno isto. Ako hocu vise kanala odjednom da preskocim toliko zastopa da izgubim dokle sam stigao, pa preskoci i vise nego sam htio. Odlazak u EPG da vratim program na nekom kanalu je bas za izgubiti zivce. Napravio sam favorites listu samo da mi je barem malo lakse koristiti, da ne moram preskakati kanale koje ne gledam. Da li ovo nesto nije ok ili svi imaju isto samo mozda "trpe"?
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#22368 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
JesteNaslovnica wrote: ↑22/11/2020 19:13Amino STB?adsol wrote: ↑22/11/2020 19:12 Pozdrav ljudi. Do sada sam koristio samo Logosoft internet i bio jako zadovoljan. Nedavno odlucim da predjem na slagalicu i jako sam razocaran uslugom televizije. Ono je patnja za koristiti, tako los responsiveness sistema me vratio u najmanje 2005. godinu. Dok odreaguje na moj input sa daljinskog, a posebno ako ih vise ide odjednom. Presporo prebacivanje kanala.
Trazio sam po ovoj temi da li se jos iko zalio, ali nisam uspio naci. Zvao sam Logosoft, oni su nesto radili u pozadini, ali stanje je ostalo totalno isto. Ako hocu vise kanala odjednom da preskocim toliko zastopa da izgubim dokle sam stigao, pa preskoci i vise nego sam htio. Odlazak u EPG da vratim program na nekom kanalu je bas za izgubiti zivce. Napravio sam favorites listu samo da mi je barem malo lakse koristiti, da ne moram preskakati kanale koje ne gledam. Da li ovo nesto nije ok ili svi imaju isto samo mozda "trpe"?
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#22369 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Imao sam isti problem.
Traži preko emaila da ti obezbijede adekvatan STB (kod mene je Aris) jer Amino ne može da se nosi sa ovom platformom.
Traži preko emaila da ti obezbijede adekvatan STB (kod mene je Aris) jer Amino ne može da se nosi sa ovom platformom.
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#22370 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
@Sakazulu signali manje vise isti kao kod mene tako da ne bi trebalo biti do routera. Ali ono sa snimka mi bas baca na router jer tako je i meni bilo. Opet moze biti u necem drugom problem u cemu ne znam mozda u resiverima mozda i do optickog ostrva (mada ako je do optickog to bi bilo da ti pojedini kanali nikako ne rade ili rade 5 do 15 sekundi i obavezno stanu).
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#22371 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Ma sve imam. Izašli su u susret i među prvima sam dobio novu opermu ali problem je i dalje prisutanNaslovnica wrote: ↑22/11/2020 20:39 Imao sam isti problem.
Traži preko emaila da ti obezbijede adekvatan STB (kod mene je Aris) jer Amino ne može da se nosi sa ovom platformom.
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#22372 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
HvalaNaslovnica wrote: ↑22/11/2020 20:39 Imao sam isti problem.
Traži preko emaila da ti obezbijede adekvatan STB (kod mene je Aris) jer Amino ne može da se nosi sa ovom platformom.
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#22373 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Apsolutno jedini razlog za takav lag u radu STB-a je sam STB, tj. Amino model. Obavezno traži Arris STB i budi siguran da će ti se sve samo objasniti čim ga prvi put uključiš i počneš prebacivati kanale / čačkati po meniju isl. - kao da si napravio skok 100 godina u budućnost. Amino STB i ova nova Logosoft platforma ne samo da nisu kompatibilni već kao da se nika ni u putu nisu sreli. I da: znaju ponekad tvrditi da nemaju Arrisa na stanju. ali tu pomaže samo jedan stari i dobro provjereni recept: INSISTIRAJ!adsol wrote: ↑22/11/2020 19:12 Pozdrav ljudi. Do sada sam koristio samo Logosoft internet i bio jako zadovoljan. Nedavno odlucim da predjem na slagalicu i jako sam razocaran uslugom televizije. Ono je patnja za koristiti, tako los responsiveness sistema me vratio u najmanje 2005. godinu. Dok odreaguje na moj input sa daljinskog, a posebno ako ih vise ide odjednom. Presporo prebacivanje kanala.
Trazio sam po ovoj temi da li se jos iko zalio, ali nisam uspio naci. Zvao sam Logosoft, oni su nesto radili u pozadini, ali stanje je ostalo totalno isto. Ako hocu vise kanala odjednom da preskocim toliko zastopa da izgubim dokle sam stigao, pa preskoci i vise nego sam htio. Odlazak u EPG da vratim program na nekom kanalu je bas za izgubiti zivce. Napravio sam favorites listu samo da mi je barem malo lakse koristiti, da ne moram preskakati kanale koje ne gledam. Da li ovo nesto nije ok ili svi imaju isto samo mozda "trpe"?
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#22375 Re: Logosoft ALL ABOUT
Takoe samo insistiraj prijeti raskidom ugovora, to je kod mene upaliloMeanMachine wrote: ↑23/11/2020 15:28Apsolutno jedini razlog za takav lag u radu STB-a je sam STB, tj. Amino model. Obavezno traži Arris STB i budi siguran da će ti se sve samo objasniti čim ga prvi put uključiš i počneš prebacivati kanale / čačkati po meniju isl. - kao da si napravio skok 100 godina u budućnost. Amino STB i ova nova Logosoft platforma ne samo da nisu kompatibilni već kao da se nika ni u putu nisu sreli. I da: znaju ponekad tvrditi da nemaju Arrisa na stanju. ali tu pomaže samo jedan stari i dobro provjereni recept: INSISTIRAJ!adsol wrote: ↑22/11/2020 19:12 Pozdrav ljudi. Do sada sam koristio samo Logosoft internet i bio jako zadovoljan. Nedavno odlucim da predjem na slagalicu i jako sam razocaran uslugom televizije. Ono je patnja za koristiti, tako los responsiveness sistema me vratio u najmanje 2005. godinu. Dok odreaguje na moj input sa daljinskog, a posebno ako ih vise ide odjednom. Presporo prebacivanje kanala.
Trazio sam po ovoj temi da li se jos iko zalio, ali nisam uspio naci. Zvao sam Logosoft, oni su nesto radili u pozadini, ali stanje je ostalo totalno isto. Ako hocu vise kanala odjednom da preskocim toliko zastopa da izgubim dokle sam stigao, pa preskoci i vise nego sam htio. Odlazak u EPG da vratim program na nekom kanalu je bas za izgubiti zivce. Napravio sam favorites listu samo da mi je barem malo lakse koristiti, da ne moram preskakati kanale koje ne gledam. Da li ovo nesto nije ok ili svi imaju isto samo mozda "trpe"?
