laik1981 wrote: ↑23/10/2020 09:15
Mogy87 wrote: ↑23/10/2020 09:02
laik1981 wrote: ↑23/10/2020 08:56
Znaci ovi su ravnozemljasi i ljudi gusteri? Nisam ni sumnjao..
Procitaj sta o njihovoj "strategiji" misle njihove kolege. Njih 5000:
Any pandemic management strategy relying upon immunity from natural infections for COVID-19 is flawed. Uncontrolled transmission in younger people risks significant morbidity(3) and mortality across the whole population. In addition to the human cost, this would impact the workforce as a whole and overwhelm the ability of healthcare systems to provide acute and routine care.
Defining who is vulnerable is complex, but even if we consider those at risk of severe illness, the proportion of vulnerable people constitute as much as 30% of the population in some regions(8).
Prolonged isolation of large swathes of the population is practically impossible and highly unethical. Empirical evidence from many countries shows that it is not feasible to restrict uncontrolled outbreaks to particular sections of society. Such an approach also risks further exacerbating the socioeconomic inequities and structural discriminations already laid bare by the pandemic.
Evo da tebe pitam. Kako bi izolovao i zastitio ugrozene kategorije? Kako bi neki starac koji zivi sam otisao po osnovne zivotne namirnice i lijekove? Ili mislis da je ok zakljucati te ljude potpuno? Kako bi to prakticno rijesio jer ovi potpisnici deklaracije na daju odgovor na to pitanje?
Pa ovo se kod nas desava vec skoro pola godine u realnosti, a i u vecini evropskih drzava.. Mladi su vec duze vrijeme pusteni da se virus siri medju njima. Nije to nikada javno receno, ali vidjeli smo slike sirom evrope u nekoliko poslednjih mjeseci.. Stari vec nekoliko mjeseci idu po namirnice i mjesaju se sa omladinom koja ne benda ni virus ni mjere 5%, bar ih nisu bendali dok nije bilo kazni.. Citavo vrijeme smo imali visoke brojeve i visoke procente pozitivnih u odnosu na testirane, pa se nista dramaticno nije desilo. Nije ovo nista novo u realnosti, ali je nova ideja ako uzmemo u obzir institucije iz kojih ti naucnici dolaze..
Ova "strategija" podrazumijeva da ne postoje nikakve mjere ukljucujuci maske u zatvorenom. Kako ce neki dedo po lijekove i mlijeko ako je to tako?
Oni ne predstavljaju te institucije vec iskljucivo govore za svoje ime.
Evo kolega sa istih institucija koji ne podrzavaju ovaj pristup
Prof. Rochelle P. Walensky, Chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases, Massachusetts General Hospital, Professor of Medicine,
Harvard Medical School, USA
Prof. William Hanage, Associate Professor of Epidemiology,
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, US
Prof. David Hunter, Richard Doll Professor of Epidemiology and Medicine; Director, Translational Epidemiology Unit, Nuffield Department of Population Health,
University of Oxford, UK
Prof. Trisha Greenhalgh, Professor of Primary Care Health Sciences, Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences,
University of Oxford, Co-Director, Interdisciplinary Research In Health Sciences (IRIHS) Unit, UK