Novi korona virus - velika opasnost ili ne ? POGLEDATI PRVI POST!

[armin071]

Neki dan napisaše nova “žrtva” korone veliki Kristijano Ronaldo. Evo sad se oglasila i sama “žrtva” korone iz koronarnog pakla. Vidi mu se na faci da zaista djeluje napaćeno...

https://www.klix.ba/sport/nogomet/ronal ... /201016111

[L u c i f e r]

Maske na otvorenom je svakako trebalo propisati zbog aerozagadjenja.

[Naslovnica]

Maske na otvorenom je svakako trebalo propisati zbog aerozagadjenja.

Dodao bih i zbog bijelog luka i krezavih esdeaovaca.

[CikCikCikPogodi]

Svima vama Koji svoje komplekse neispunjene snove frustracije I parmake Koji vam fale Radim u najvecoj bolnici u Evropi pred ocima su mi pacijenti zarazeni covidom 19 za " cudo" vasim nebulozama nisu samo stari koje vi ovdje neubrajate u ljude, zive insane, populaciju.... Jezim se od vasih komentara, svjetski sampioni ste u kopiranju kojekavih Statistika, tumacenja istih a o Kojima vecina vas veze nema sa zivotom....
Danas sam izgubila I clana familije vjerovatno su slagali da je covid 19, al eto sin je ljekar pa nesto nesumnjam ili sta vi mislite po Tim vasim tumacenjima...

cim mogy posrne, ti ulijeces. jadni oni koji tebi vjeruju.

jedan te isti lik iza profila se krije garant

[Horke]

@Horke ja ne volim postavljati ovakve linkove ali vise medija u Svedskoj je istrazivalo problematiku

Relatives: We were not involved in life-changing decisions

Ekot's review shows that more than a hundred people reported to the Swedish Health and Care Inspectorate that their relatives with covid-19, either did not receive oxygen or nutrient drops or that they were not allowed to come to hospital.

https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.a ... el=7561304

Elderly people are denied hospital care during the pandemic
In a new review, Sörmlands Media can reveal that the National Board of Health and Welfare's guidelines mean that elderly and frail people are denied hospital care. According to the authority, the guidelines should only be used in the event of a lack of space in health care, but the newspaper's sources state that several regions have already begun to refuse elderly care.

But sources claim that in several parts of the country, large groups of patients have already begun to be given priority. They are denied inpatient care completely and should instead be cared for at home. The oldest and most fragile should not be taken to hospital.

In the advice, the CFS (Clinical Frailty Scale) is pointed out as a suitable tool for measuring fragility, or biological age.

Despite the fact that Swedish healthcare has not had problems with a shortage of care places, some regions have thus already begun to apply the guidelines. The CFS scale has proven to be crucial not only for the possibilities of receiving intensive care, but also inpatient care.

https://ekuriren.se/artikel/pr5ne5nr?fb ... gRNrzVkI_A

Ovo je kljucno:

Elderly people are denied hospital care during the pandemic
In a new review, Sörmlands Media can reveal that the National Board of Health and Welfare's guidelines mean that elderly and frail people are denied hospital care. According to the authority, the guidelines should only be used in the event of a lack of space in health care, but the newspaper's sources state that several regions have already begun to refuse elderly care.

Ovo podebljano je kljucno. Znaci to nije bio zvanican stav Svedske, vec samo u slucaju nedostatka kapaciteta. I u svim ovim izvjestajima se spominje vodic, koji nije obligatoran i koji je neko odlucio da provede, a neko slijepo slusao. Ja bih zaista voljela da vidim svjedocenje ili dokaz da je osoba trece zivotne dobi, sa otezanim disanjem i niskom saturacijom vracena iz bolnice uz obrazlozenje, star si.

Dakle nikako ne mozemo govoriti da je to bio zvanicni stav i politika Svedske.

[Mogy87]

@Horke ja ne volim postavljati ovakve linkove ali vise medija u Svedskoj je istrazivalo problematiku

Relatives: We were not involved in life-changing decisions

Ekot's review shows that more than a hundred people reported to the Swedish Health and Care Inspectorate that their relatives with covid-19, either did not receive oxygen or nutrient drops or that they were not allowed to come to hospital.

https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.a ... el=7561304

Elderly people are denied hospital care during the pandemic
In a new review, Sörmlands Media can reveal that the National Board of Health and Welfare's guidelines mean that elderly and frail people are denied hospital care. According to the authority, the guidelines should only be used in the event of a lack of space in health care, but the newspaper's sources state that several regions have already begun to refuse elderly care.

But sources claim that in several parts of the country, large groups of patients have already begun to be given priority. They are denied inpatient care completely and should instead be cared for at home. The oldest and most fragile should not be taken to hospital.

In the advice, the CFS (Clinical Frailty Scale) is pointed out as a suitable tool for measuring fragility, or biological age.

Despite the fact that Swedish healthcare has not had problems with a shortage of care places, some regions have thus already begun to apply the guidelines. The CFS scale has proven to be crucial not only for the possibilities of receiving intensive care, but also inpatient care.

https://ekuriren.se/artikel/pr5ne5nr?fb ... gRNrzVkI_A

Ovo je kljucno:

Elderly people are denied hospital care during the pandemic
In a new review, Sörmlands Media can reveal that the National Board of Health and Welfare's guidelines mean that elderly and frail people are denied hospital care. According to the authority, the guidelines should only be used in the event of a lack of space in health care, but the newspaper's sources state that several regions have already begun to refuse elderly care.

Ovo podebljano je kljucno. Znaci to nije bio zvanican stav Svedske, vec samo u slucaju nedostatka kapaciteta. I u svim ovim izvjestajima se spominje vodic, koji nije obligatoran i koji je neko odlucio da provede, a neko slijepo slusao. Ja bih zaista voljela da vidim svjedocenje ili dokaz da je osoba trece zivotne dobi, sa otezanim disanjem i niskom saturacijom vracena iz bolnice uz obrazlozenje, star si.

Dakle nikako ne mozemo govoriti da je to bio zvanicni stav i politika Svedske.

Kljucno je i ovo da im kapaciteti NISU bili popunjeni

Swedish ICU use rates remained lower than predicted, but a large fraction of deaths occurred in non-ICU patients. This suggests that patient prognosis was considered in ICU admission, reducing healthcare load at a cost of decreased survival in patients not admitted.

However, not all ICU beds were occupied—the number of unique patients receiving COVID ICU care was approximately 53% of the total COVID-diagnosed deaths at the start of May 2020 [14, 35] To analyze this, we examined the demographic characteristics of patients with COVID-19 diagnosed, patients admitted to the ICU, and patients who died with a confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis [25]. Analyzed by categorical age group, older Swedish patients with confirmed COVID-19 were more likely to die than to be admitted to the ICU (Figure 5), suggesting that predicted prognosis may have been a factor in ICU admission. This likely reduced ICU load at the cost of more high-risk patients dying outside the ICU.

Imas svjedocanstva ljudi na ovom linku koja su prijavili relevantnim instancama:
Instead, many with covid-19 in nursing homes, according to the reports, have received palliative care. In other words, care in the final stages of life, which in these cases should often have meant painkillers and sedatives.

Ekot's survey also shows that when the elderly received care at the end of life, it is stated in more than 25 cases that the relatives were neither properly informed nor involved in the decisions.

A woman writes in the report about her now dead mother:

“The decision to give our mother palliative care that included morphine was made over our mother and us children's heads. This was never anchored in any relative at all. ”

Another woman tells Ekot:

“We relatives were not contacted immediately when mother fell ill. It was blamed that the accommodation did not have our telephone numbers. We were also not informed that the doctor had decided on so-called palliative care. "

Someone who claims to be employed at a nursing home tells IVO anonymously:

"Everyone with a positive corona response received direct palliative care, there is no information that patients or relatives have been informed that this decision has been made."

[armin071]

Ma nista ba samo vi opletite ovdje dokazujte da ste negdje nasli neki clanak, statistiku.... Citav svijet je u zabludi samo vi ste u pravu, NIKO od vas nije ovdje postavio svoj licni Rad, doduse koliko vremena trosite na ovom forumu jadne du te firme u Kojima radite I familiju sa Kojima zivite ako ih uopste imate

Dr. Senahid Halilović je odlučio da okonča svoj život nakon što je pročitao ovaj dubokouman odgovor uvaženog forumaša...

[hali gali halid]

Da li je preminula djevojka imala neka druga oboljenja?

[Naslovnica]

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_fir ... 265892.pdf

Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from
seroprevalence data
John P A Ioannidisa

Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS), Stanford University, 1265 Welch Road,
Stanford, California 94305, United States of America.
Correspondence to John P A Ioannidis (email: [email protected]).
(Submitted: 13 May 2020 – Revised version received: 13 September 2020 – Accepted: 15 September 2020
– Published online: 14 October 2020)
Abstract
Objective To estimate the infection fatality rate of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
from seroprevalence data.
Methods I searched PubMed and preprint servers for COVID-19 seroprevalence
studies with a sample size  500 as of 9 September, 2020. I also retrieved additional results
of national studies from preliminary press releases and reports. I assessed the studies for
design features and seroprevalence estimates. I estimated the infection fatality rate for
each study by dividing the number of COVID-19 deaths by the number of people estimated
to be infected in each region. I corrected for the number of antibody types tested
(immunoglobin, IgG, IgM, IgA).
Results I included 61 studies (74 estimates) and eight preliminary national
estimates. Seroprevalence estimates ranged from 0.02% to 53.40%. Infection fatality rates
ranged from 0.00% to 1.63%, corrected values from 0.00% to 1.54%. Across 51 locations,
the median COVID-19 infection fatality rate was 0.27% (corrected 0.23%): the rate was
0.09% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rates less than the global average
(< 118 deaths/million), 0.20% in locations with 118–500 COVID-19 deaths/million people
and 0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people. In people < 70 years,
infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of
0.05%.
Conclusion The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 can vary substantially across
different locations and this may reflect differences in population age structure and case-
mix of infected and deceased patients and other factors. The inferred infection fatality rates
tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic.
olating across age groups.
Acknowledging these limitations, based on the currently available data, one may project
that over half a billion people have been infected as of 12 September, 2020, far more than the
approximately 29 million documented laboratory-confirmed cases. Most locations probably have
an infection fatality rate less than 0.20% and with appropriate, precise non-pharmacological
measures that selectively try to protect high-risk vulnerable populations and settings, the infection
fatality rate may be brought even lower.


Auuuuu

[Trappist]

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_fir ... 265892.pdf

Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from
seroprevalence data
John P A Ioannidisa

Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS), Stanford University, 1265 Welch Road,
Stanford, California 94305, United States of America.
Correspondence to John P A Ioannidis (email: [email protected]).
(Submitted: 13 May 2020 – Revised version received: 13 September 2020 – Accepted: 15 September 2020
– Published online: 14 October 2020)
Abstract
Objective To estimate the infection fatality rate of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
from seroprevalence data.
Methods I searched PubMed and preprint servers for COVID-19 seroprevalence
studies with a sample size  500 as of 9 September, 2020. I also retrieved additional results
of national studies from preliminary press releases and reports. I assessed the studies for
design features and seroprevalence estimates. I estimated the infection fatality rate for
each study by dividing the number of COVID-19 deaths by the number of people estimated
to be infected in each region. I corrected for the number of antibody types tested
(immunoglobin, IgG, IgM, IgA).
Results I included 61 studies (74 estimates) and eight preliminary national
estimates. Seroprevalence estimates ranged from 0.02% to 53.40%. Infection fatality rates
ranged from 0.00% to 1.63%, corrected values from 0.00% to 1.54%. Across 51 locations,
the median COVID-19 infection fatality rate was 0.27% (corrected 0.23%): the rate was
0.09% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rates less than the global average
(< 118 deaths/million), 0.20% in locations with 118–500 COVID-19 deaths/million people
and 0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people. In people < 70 years,
infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of
0.05%.
Conclusion The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 can vary substantially across
different locations and this may reflect differences in population age structure and case-
mix of infected and deceased patients and other factors. The inferred infection fatality rates
tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic.
olating across age groups.
Acknowledging these limitations, based on the currently available data, one may project
that over half a billion people have been infected as of 12 September, 2020, far more than the
approximately 29 million documented laboratory-confirmed cases. Most locations probably have
an infection fatality rate less than 0.20% and with appropriate, precise non-pharmacological
measures that selectively try to protect high-risk vulnerable populations and settings, the infection
fatality rate may be brought even lower.


Auuuuu

Sad kad Mogy uzme istrazivati ko je objavio, pa ga krene pljuvati

[daddy-kool]

http://www.politika.rs/sr/clanak/464719 ... cijski-cas
Belgija proglasila najviši stepen uzbune zbog korone, uveden policijski čas

BRISEL - Belgijske vlasti su zbog ogromnog porasta broja inficiranih i hospitalizovanih u novom naletu koronavirusa proglasile najviši stepen uzbune u zemlji.

Takozvana „faza 4” podrazumeva uvođenje policijskog časa u celoj zemlji, zatvaraju se barovi i restorani, dozvoljen je bliski kontakat sa samo jednom osobom van domaćinstva, a rad na daljinu je obavezan gde god je to moguće.

Prehrambrene prodavnice će ostati otvorene, ali su otkazane sve tradicionalne božićne proslave i svečanosti na ulicama, prenosi Tanjug.

„Broj infekcija raste svakodnevno i to vrlo brzo. Naši lekari i bolnice su pod velikim pritiskom. Vodimo neravnopravnu bitku sa ovim virusom”, poručio je premijer Belgije Aleksander De Kro.

[kakavdanakneiskustvu]

https://www.zenit.ba/u-srbiji-maske-oba ... S1on2z_iDw

[Medobrundo25]

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_fir ... 265892.pdf

Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from
seroprevalence data
John P A Ioannidisa

Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS), Stanford University, 1265 Welch Road,
Stanford, California 94305, United States of America.
Correspondence to John P A Ioannidis (email: [email protected]).
(Submitted: 13 May 2020 – Revised version received: 13 September 2020 – Accepted: 15 September 2020
– Published online: 14 October 2020)
Abstract
Objective To estimate the infection fatality rate of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
from seroprevalence data.
Methods I searched PubMed and preprint servers for COVID-19 seroprevalence
studies with a sample size  500 as of 9 September, 2020. I also retrieved additional results
of national studies from preliminary press releases and reports. I assessed the studies for
design features and seroprevalence estimates. I estimated the infection fatality rate for
each study by dividing the number of COVID-19 deaths by the number of people estimated
to be infected in each region. I corrected for the number of antibody types tested
(immunoglobin, IgG, IgM, IgA).
Results I included 61 studies (74 estimates) and eight preliminary national
estimates. Seroprevalence estimates ranged from 0.02% to 53.40%. Infection fatality rates
ranged from 0.00% to 1.63%, corrected values from 0.00% to 1.54%. Across 51 locations,
the median COVID-19 infection fatality rate was 0.27% (corrected 0.23%): the rate was
0.09% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rates less than the global average
(< 118 deaths/million), 0.20% in locations with 118–500 COVID-19 deaths/million people
and 0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people. In people < 70 years,
infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of
0.05%.
Conclusion The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 can vary substantially across
different locations and this may reflect differences in population age structure and case-
mix of infected and deceased patients and other factors. The inferred infection fatality rates
tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic.
olating across age groups.
Acknowledging these limitations, based on the currently available data, one may project
that over half a billion people have been infected as of 12 September, 2020, far more than the
approximately 29 million documented laboratory-confirmed cases. Most locations probably have
an infection fatality rate less than 0.20% and with appropriate, precise non-pharmacological
measures that selectively try to protect high-risk vulnerable populations and settings, the infection
fatality rate may be brought even lower.


Auuuuu

Auuu sad ce mogy87 da dodje i da kaze da je ovaj sto je radio istrazivanje kad je bio mladji krao bombone iz skole i kao takav nema nikakav kredibilitet. Ovo je logicno, valjda je i budalama jasno da brojevi koje nam serviraju bemaju veze sa realnoscu.

[L u c i f e r]

https://v.redd.it/b3pcvlc2eht51

“Sorry sunshine, wrong place”: New Zealand Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters shuts down American coronavirus skeptic

[Mogy87]

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_fir ... 265892.pdf

Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from
seroprevalence data
John P A Ioannidisa

Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS), Stanford University, 1265 Welch Road,
Stanford, California 94305, United States of America.
Correspondence to John P A Ioannidis (email: [email protected]).
(Submitted: 13 May 2020 – Revised version received: 13 September 2020 – Accepted: 15 September 2020
– Published online: 14 October 2020)
Abstract
Objective To estimate the infection fatality rate of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
from seroprevalence data.
Methods I searched PubMed and preprint servers for COVID-19 seroprevalence
studies with a sample size  500 as of 9 September, 2020. I also retrieved additional results
of national studies from preliminary press releases and reports. I assessed the studies for
design features and seroprevalence estimates. I estimated the infection fatality rate for
each study by dividing the number of COVID-19 deaths by the number of people estimated
to be infected in each region. I corrected for the number of antibody types tested
(immunoglobin, IgG, IgM, IgA).
Results I included 61 studies (74 estimates) and eight preliminary national
estimates. Seroprevalence estimates ranged from 0.02% to 53.40%. Infection fatality rates
ranged from 0.00% to 1.63%, corrected values from 0.00% to 1.54%. Across 51 locations,
the median COVID-19 infection fatality rate was 0.27% (corrected 0.23%): the rate was
0.09% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rates less than the global average
(< 118 deaths/million), 0.20% in locations with 118–500 COVID-19 deaths/million people
and 0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people. In people < 70 years,
infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of
0.05%.
Conclusion The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 can vary substantially across
different locations and this may reflect differences in population age structure and case-
mix of infected and deceased patients and other factors. The inferred infection fatality rates
tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic.
olating across age groups.
Acknowledging these limitations, based on the currently available data, one may project
that over half a billion people have been infected as of 12 September, 2020, far more than the
approximately 29 million documented laboratory-confirmed cases. Most locations probably have
an infection fatality rate less than 0.20% and with appropriate, precise non-pharmacological
measures that selectively try to protect high-risk vulnerable populations and settings, the infection
fatality rate may be brought even lower.


Auuuuu

Za pocetak mali problem s konfliktom interesa:

Navedeno se odnosi na studiju gdje je cijenjeni gospodin jedan od autora gdje je takodjer pokusao dokazati nesto slicno. Toliko je studija bila lose uredjena da su je sami autori revidirali. A i motivi su vrlo upitni.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20062463v2

Update (May 18): A whistleblower complaint filed last week with Stanford University reveals that the Santa Clara study was partially funded by JetBlue Airways founder David Neeleman, who has spoken out against the use of lockdowns to slow the spread of COVID-19,

Znaci istrazivanja uvazenog gospodina finansira avio kompanija koja je cudnog li cuda protiv mjera.

Drugi su naucnici bukvalno pisali studije navodici studiju cijenjenog autora kao primjer kako se studija ne treba pisati

How (Not) to Do an Antibody Survey for SARS-CoV-2

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opin ... ov-2-67488

A ima i ona provala kad je cijenjeni gospodin bukvalno pokusao provaliti u Bijelu kucu da dohavuza Trumpa da ne uvodi mjere. Sastanak, naravno, nije dobio.

Da, i sami autori ukljucujuci cijenjenog gospoduna su REVIDIRALI brojeve nakon sto su im jasno pokazane mane njihovog istrazivanja. Velika sramota u naucnom svijetu u svakom slucaju.

[daddy-kool]

Ruku na srce Ioannidis se nije proslavio sa dosadašnjim radovima na ovu temu.

https://undark.org/2020/04/24/john-ioan ... e-critics/
https://www.wired.com/story/prophet-of- ... ontrarian/
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/20/f ... n-apology/

“I think the authors owe us all an apology… not just to us, but to Stanford,” wrote Andrew Gelman, a professor of statistics and political science and director of the Applied Statistics Center at Columbia University.

[Trappist]

Sad vec mislim da se neko zajebava sa ona dva profila

[Naslovnica]

Da, da...
I pored svega što je Mogy objasnila, WHO ipak objavio ovo smeće od studije na svojoj zvaničnoj stranici.

[daddy-kool]

Niste bili na temi od početka da se sjećate diskusija o ovome.

[hali gali halid]

German Neurologist Warns Against Wearing Facemasks: 'Oxygen Deprivation Causes Permanent Neurological Damage'
https://www.sott.net/article/442455-Ger ... al-Damage#

[Naslovnica]

(Submitted: 13 May 2020 – Revised version received: 13 September 2020 – Accepted: 15 September 2020
– Published online: 14 October 2020)

[armin071]

Sad vec mislim da se neko zajebava sa ona dva profila

Jedno tijelo, više duša

[Naslovnica]

Ruku na srce Ioannidis se nije proslavio sa dosadašnjim radovima na ovu temu.

https://undark.org/2020/04/24/john-ioan ... e-critics/
https://www.wired.com/story/prophet-of- ... ontrarian/
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/20/f ... n-apology/

“I think the authors owe us all an apology… not just to us, but to Stanford,” wrote Andrew Gelman, a professor of statistics and political science and director of the Applied Statistics Center at Columbia University.

Kad prije izvuče ovo, sve redom relevantne i ugledne web stranice. Nedostaje Faktograf na spisku.

[Naslovnica]

Ja ne mislim da su daddy i Mogy ista osoba, jer bi to bilo zaista monstruozno i značilo bi da na forumu imamo psihopatu.

[Mogy87]

Da, da...
I pored svega što je Mogy objasnila, WHO ipak objavio ovo smeće od studije na svojoj zvaničnoj stranici.

Sta cemo s revidiranom studijom bukvalno na istu temu?

I s tim da istrazivanje finansira avio kompanija? Oni nemaju bas nikakvog interesa vezano za COVID?