Mozda je stopa kriminala medju crncima malo veca nego kod ostalih.jeza u ledja wrote: ↑02/06/2020 19:57Nisu u pitanju nikako "pojedinacni slucajevi", vec upravo cjelina, sistem, koji prekomjerno ubija, zatvara i osudjuje crnce na dugogodisnje kazne, u odnosu na ostale. O tome uopste nema dileme i nejasno da postoje inteligentni ljude kojima to nije jasno?detroit-mercy wrote: ↑02/06/2020 19:44Nemoj zajebavat jeze, pojedinacni slucajevi ne repezentuju cjelinu.
Ovo je samo sto se tice sudova i policije.
Naravno i u raznim drugim sferama postoji itekakav sistematski rasizam.
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In the years leading up to George Floyd's death with his neck beneath the knee of a Minneapolis policeman, at least 58 people lost consciousness after the city's officers put them in neck restraints, according to a CNN analysis of use of force data from the police department.
Officers used neck restraints on 428 people since 2012, and 14% lost consciousness, the data showed. That means the procedure, which is restricted or banned in many large police departments around the country, was used an average of about once a week in the city over that time period.
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#17903 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Pa bilo nedavno u Francuskoj..
pa nema vise..
tao ce i tamo da se smiri..
Ovo npr ne mozes porediti sa Kineskom intervencijom u Hong Kongu..
sto o tome ne diskutujete i ne branite narod Hong Konga od porobljavanja od strane Kineza..
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Where did policing go wrong?
Watching all the terrible news in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd, it’s been hard not to think about Eric Garner. The cases have so many similarities. Once again, an unarmed African-American man in his forties has been asphyxiated in broad daylight by a police officer with a history of abuse complaints. He and his fellow officers ignore cries of “I can’t breathe,” and keep subduing their target even after he stops moving, unconcerned that he’s being filmed.
Five years ago, while sketching the outline for a book about the Garner case called I Can’t Breathe, my editor suggested I take on a larger question.
Why, he asked, do we even have police? After all, the history of policing in our country, especially as it pertains to minority neighborhoods, has always rested upon dubious justifications. The early American police forces evolved out of slave patrols in the South, and “progressed” to enforce the Black Codes from the Civil War period and beyond, on to Jim Crow through the late sixties if not longer.
In an explicit way, American policing has almost always been concerned on some level with enforcing racial separatism. Because Jim Crow police were upholding a way of life, the klix laws they were given to enforce were deliberately vague, designed to be easily used as pretexts for controlling the movements of black people. They were charged with punishing “idleness” or “impudence,” and encouraged to enforce a range of vagrancy laws, including such offenses as “rambling without a job” and “leading an idle, profligate, or immoral course of life.”
I ended up not taking on that question, focusing on the hard-enough question of what had led two young, amped-up policemen to choke the life out of a harmless father and street character like Garner. I was more interested in those police than all police, and part of me – the white part, probably – thought the answer to the question of why we need police at all was at least somewhat self-evident.
But the Garner story ended up graphically revealing the way modern “Broken Windows” policing had evolved to fit the tactics of those centuries of racial enforcement. I learned that “vagrancy” laws had been replaced in cities like New York with essentially identical offenses like “obstructing pedestrian traffic” and “obstructing government administration.”
In Staten Island, a borough that to this day remains very segregated – white and black residents alike refer to the Staten Island Expressway that bisects black neighborhoods to the north and white neighborhoods to the south as the “Mason-Dixon line” – the young black men who lived in and around the Tompkinsville area where Garner was killed told stories of being stopped and ticketed whenever they crossed into the wrong neighborhoods.
The new strategies rely upon extremely high numbers of contacts between police and subject populations, who are stopped for every conceivable minor offense – public intoxication, public urination, riding bicycles the wrong way down a sidewalk, refusing to obey police orders, jumping subway turnstiles, and, in Garner’s case, selling loose cigarettes.
This idea of high-engagement policing was born in the mind of a Midwestern academic/corrections official named George Kelling. Kelling conducted a number of studies for think tanks like the Police Foundation and eventually co-authored a hugely influential 1982 article in the Atlantic called Broken Windows.
Kelling in his research found that while people may not actually be safer, they feel safer when there is less visible “disorder” in their neighborhoods, e.g. panhandling, litter, graffiti, etc. Also, research suggested such disorder was incentive to further disorder: as Stanford researcher Philip Zimbardo put it, “If a window in a building is broken and left unrepaired, all of the rest of the windows will soon be broken.”
“Broken Windows” revolutionized policing, changing it from a business of fighting crime to doing what Kelling described as “order maintenance.” If earlier police theorists like Orlando “O.W.” Wilson hoped to defeat crime by putting officers in squad cars and giving them advanced tools to react more quickly to offenses, the new strategy stressed stopping crime before it got started, by building and maintaining something not defined in law books – “order.”
Once again, police were charged with enforcing not rules but a way of life, and were asked again to view the law as more of a tool than an end in itself. The famous “Broken Windows” article spoke approvingly of officers in Chicago who read between the lines of the law to chase gang members out of a project: “In the words of one officer, ‘We kick ass.’”
The Kelling revolution was credited with early successes, like the cleaning up of the New York City subway. Soon the “Broken Windows” strategy (sometimes euphemistically called “community policing”) was the norm in big cities. Mass stops and arrests led to amazing numbers, like Baltimore under Mayor Martin O’Malley arresting 100,000 people in 2004 alone, or the city of Chicago stopping 250,000 people in 2014, a stop rate four times higher than New York in the peak years of “stop-and-frisk.”
When such policing became hot in the nineties, as advocates like Bill Bratton became national celebrities (here he is on the cover of Time in 1996 under the headline, “Finally, we’re winning the war against crime. Here’s why”), police departments became infected by a corporate-like mania for “goal-setting” and “deliverables.” There was no numerical way to impress politicians if police just worked cases as they came: to show progress, Bratton believed, one had to order police to produce concrete quantities of stops, searches, arrests.
Commissioners demanded captains deliver numbers and captains began browbeating lesser officers, who in turn pushed quotas on patrol cops, for reasons that often had nothing to do with crime. As depicted in the The Wire, in the stats revolution, “shit always rolls downhill.” The point was to get lieutenants promoted to captain, to get mayors re-elected, and help provide the rationale for the prison jobs state legislators were bringing home to suburban districts. All of this was greased by the lobbying money of construction firms, prison vendors, even private prison corporations – a great business for all, and all that was needed to keep it going was an endless stream of jailable people.
This is why, even as rates of both violent crime and property crime have been decreasing steadily since the early nineties, rates of incarceration have been exploding in the other direction. For most of the 20th century the rate of incarceration in America was roughly 110 per 100,000 people. As of last year, the number was 655 per 100,000. Although the numbers have dipped slightly in recent years, down from a high of about 760 per 100,000 in 2013, the quantity of prisoners in America remains absurdly high.
Such aggressive, military-style policing would be not be tolerated by voters if it were taking place everywhere. It’s popular, and continues to be embraced by politicians in both parties, because it’s only happening in “those” neighborhoods (or, as Mike Bloomberg once put it, “where the crime is”). Even during the Covid-19 crisis, 80% of the summonses for social distancing violations are given out to blacks and Hispanics. Does anyone really think that minorities account for that massive a percentage of those violations? Do they think black people really commit 3.73 times as many marijuana offenses as white people?
Basically we have two systems of enforcement in America, a minimalist one for people with political clout, and an intrusive one for everyone else. In the same way our army in Vietnam got in trouble when it started searching for ways to quantify the success of its occupation, choosing sociopathic metrics like “body counts” and “truck kills,” modern big-city policing has been corrupted by its lust for summonses, stops, and arrests. It’s made monsters where none needed to exist.
Because they’re constantly throwing those people against walls, writing them nuisance tickets, and violating their space with humiliating searches (New York in 2010 paid $33 million to a staggering 100,000 people strip-searched after misdemeanor charges), modern cops correctly perceive that they’re hated. As a result, many embrace a “warrior” ethos that teaches them to view themselves as under constant threat.
This is why you see so many knees on heads and necks, guns drawn on unarmed motorists, chokeholds by the thousand, and patterns of massive overkill everywhere – 41 shots fired at Amadou Diallo, 50 at Sean Bell, 137 at Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams in Cleveland, and homicides over twenty bucks or a loose cigarette.
Police are trained to behave like occupiers, which is why they increasingly dress like they’ve been sent to clear houses in Mosul and treat random motorists like potential car-bombers – think of poor Philando Castile, shot seven times by a police officer who leaped back firing in panic like he was being attacked by Freddy Krueger, instead of a calm, compliant, educated young man. Officers with histories of abuse complaints like Daniel Pantaleo and Derek Chauvin are kept on the force because senior officers value police who make numbers more than they fear outrage from residents in their districts. The incentives in this system are wrong in every direction.
The current protests are likely to inspire politicians to think the other way, but it’s probably time to reconsider what we’re trying to accomplish with this kind of policing. In upscale white America drug use is effectively decriminalized, and Terry stops, strip searches, and “quality of life” arrests are unknowns. The country isn’t going to heal as long as everyone else gets a knee in the neck.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/where-did ... g-go-wrong
Watching all the terrible news in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd, it’s been hard not to think about Eric Garner. The cases have so many similarities. Once again, an unarmed African-American man in his forties has been asphyxiated in broad daylight by a police officer with a history of abuse complaints. He and his fellow officers ignore cries of “I can’t breathe,” and keep subduing their target even after he stops moving, unconcerned that he’s being filmed.
Five years ago, while sketching the outline for a book about the Garner case called I Can’t Breathe, my editor suggested I take on a larger question.
Why, he asked, do we even have police? After all, the history of policing in our country, especially as it pertains to minority neighborhoods, has always rested upon dubious justifications. The early American police forces evolved out of slave patrols in the South, and “progressed” to enforce the Black Codes from the Civil War period and beyond, on to Jim Crow through the late sixties if not longer.
In an explicit way, American policing has almost always been concerned on some level with enforcing racial separatism. Because Jim Crow police were upholding a way of life, the klix laws they were given to enforce were deliberately vague, designed to be easily used as pretexts for controlling the movements of black people. They were charged with punishing “idleness” or “impudence,” and encouraged to enforce a range of vagrancy laws, including such offenses as “rambling without a job” and “leading an idle, profligate, or immoral course of life.”
I ended up not taking on that question, focusing on the hard-enough question of what had led two young, amped-up policemen to choke the life out of a harmless father and street character like Garner. I was more interested in those police than all police, and part of me – the white part, probably – thought the answer to the question of why we need police at all was at least somewhat self-evident.
But the Garner story ended up graphically revealing the way modern “Broken Windows” policing had evolved to fit the tactics of those centuries of racial enforcement. I learned that “vagrancy” laws had been replaced in cities like New York with essentially identical offenses like “obstructing pedestrian traffic” and “obstructing government administration.”
In Staten Island, a borough that to this day remains very segregated – white and black residents alike refer to the Staten Island Expressway that bisects black neighborhoods to the north and white neighborhoods to the south as the “Mason-Dixon line” – the young black men who lived in and around the Tompkinsville area where Garner was killed told stories of being stopped and ticketed whenever they crossed into the wrong neighborhoods.
The new strategies rely upon extremely high numbers of contacts between police and subject populations, who are stopped for every conceivable minor offense – public intoxication, public urination, riding bicycles the wrong way down a sidewalk, refusing to obey police orders, jumping subway turnstiles, and, in Garner’s case, selling loose cigarettes.
This idea of high-engagement policing was born in the mind of a Midwestern academic/corrections official named George Kelling. Kelling conducted a number of studies for think tanks like the Police Foundation and eventually co-authored a hugely influential 1982 article in the Atlantic called Broken Windows.
Kelling in his research found that while people may not actually be safer, they feel safer when there is less visible “disorder” in their neighborhoods, e.g. panhandling, litter, graffiti, etc. Also, research suggested such disorder was incentive to further disorder: as Stanford researcher Philip Zimbardo put it, “If a window in a building is broken and left unrepaired, all of the rest of the windows will soon be broken.”
“Broken Windows” revolutionized policing, changing it from a business of fighting crime to doing what Kelling described as “order maintenance.” If earlier police theorists like Orlando “O.W.” Wilson hoped to defeat crime by putting officers in squad cars and giving them advanced tools to react more quickly to offenses, the new strategy stressed stopping crime before it got started, by building and maintaining something not defined in law books – “order.”
Once again, police were charged with enforcing not rules but a way of life, and were asked again to view the law as more of a tool than an end in itself. The famous “Broken Windows” article spoke approvingly of officers in Chicago who read between the lines of the law to chase gang members out of a project: “In the words of one officer, ‘We kick ass.’”
The Kelling revolution was credited with early successes, like the cleaning up of the New York City subway. Soon the “Broken Windows” strategy (sometimes euphemistically called “community policing”) was the norm in big cities. Mass stops and arrests led to amazing numbers, like Baltimore under Mayor Martin O’Malley arresting 100,000 people in 2004 alone, or the city of Chicago stopping 250,000 people in 2014, a stop rate four times higher than New York in the peak years of “stop-and-frisk.”
When such policing became hot in the nineties, as advocates like Bill Bratton became national celebrities (here he is on the cover of Time in 1996 under the headline, “Finally, we’re winning the war against crime. Here’s why”), police departments became infected by a corporate-like mania for “goal-setting” and “deliverables.” There was no numerical way to impress politicians if police just worked cases as they came: to show progress, Bratton believed, one had to order police to produce concrete quantities of stops, searches, arrests.
Commissioners demanded captains deliver numbers and captains began browbeating lesser officers, who in turn pushed quotas on patrol cops, for reasons that often had nothing to do with crime. As depicted in the The Wire, in the stats revolution, “shit always rolls downhill.” The point was to get lieutenants promoted to captain, to get mayors re-elected, and help provide the rationale for the prison jobs state legislators were bringing home to suburban districts. All of this was greased by the lobbying money of construction firms, prison vendors, even private prison corporations – a great business for all, and all that was needed to keep it going was an endless stream of jailable people.
This is why, even as rates of both violent crime and property crime have been decreasing steadily since the early nineties, rates of incarceration have been exploding in the other direction. For most of the 20th century the rate of incarceration in America was roughly 110 per 100,000 people. As of last year, the number was 655 per 100,000. Although the numbers have dipped slightly in recent years, down from a high of about 760 per 100,000 in 2013, the quantity of prisoners in America remains absurdly high.
Such aggressive, military-style policing would be not be tolerated by voters if it were taking place everywhere. It’s popular, and continues to be embraced by politicians in both parties, because it’s only happening in “those” neighborhoods (or, as Mike Bloomberg once put it, “where the crime is”). Even during the Covid-19 crisis, 80% of the summonses for social distancing violations are given out to blacks and Hispanics. Does anyone really think that minorities account for that massive a percentage of those violations? Do they think black people really commit 3.73 times as many marijuana offenses as white people?
Basically we have two systems of enforcement in America, a minimalist one for people with political clout, and an intrusive one for everyone else. In the same way our army in Vietnam got in trouble when it started searching for ways to quantify the success of its occupation, choosing sociopathic metrics like “body counts” and “truck kills,” modern big-city policing has been corrupted by its lust for summonses, stops, and arrests. It’s made monsters where none needed to exist.
Because they’re constantly throwing those people against walls, writing them nuisance tickets, and violating their space with humiliating searches (New York in 2010 paid $33 million to a staggering 100,000 people strip-searched after misdemeanor charges), modern cops correctly perceive that they’re hated. As a result, many embrace a “warrior” ethos that teaches them to view themselves as under constant threat.
This is why you see so many knees on heads and necks, guns drawn on unarmed motorists, chokeholds by the thousand, and patterns of massive overkill everywhere – 41 shots fired at Amadou Diallo, 50 at Sean Bell, 137 at Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams in Cleveland, and homicides over twenty bucks or a loose cigarette.
Police are trained to behave like occupiers, which is why they increasingly dress like they’ve been sent to clear houses in Mosul and treat random motorists like potential car-bombers – think of poor Philando Castile, shot seven times by a police officer who leaped back firing in panic like he was being attacked by Freddy Krueger, instead of a calm, compliant, educated young man. Officers with histories of abuse complaints like Daniel Pantaleo and Derek Chauvin are kept on the force because senior officers value police who make numbers more than they fear outrage from residents in their districts. The incentives in this system are wrong in every direction.
The current protests are likely to inspire politicians to think the other way, but it’s probably time to reconsider what we’re trying to accomplish with this kind of policing. In upscale white America drug use is effectively decriminalized, and Terry stops, strip searches, and “quality of life” arrests are unknowns. The country isn’t going to heal as long as everyone else gets a knee in the neck.
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#17905 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, when asked about U.S. President Donald Trump’s possibly calling in the military to quell protests, paused for more than 20 seconds before answering that Canadians were watching in horror what was happening in the United States.
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#17906 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Ja sam za to da potus do zadnjeg brani demokraciju u us. Nema labavo!
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animals
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#17907 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Koliko ti god ne volio tu zemlju, u njoj zive svi narodi ovoga svijeta..nosara wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:17Ja sam za to da potus do zadnjeg brani demokraciju u us. Nema labavo!
i ako kritikujes narod USA, onda kritikujes sve narode ovoga svijeta..
sto posto useljenicka zemlja..i svi koji hoce da uspiju idu ka njoj..
oni koji ne mogu, mogu da je mrze samo..
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oaza85
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#17908 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Mah, ti si samo mrzovoljni penzioner, internet chegevara.nosara wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:17Ja sam za to da potus do zadnjeg brani demokraciju u us. Nema labavo!
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#17909 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Ja obozavam us.
U ovoj situaciji sam na strani vlasti. Legalista.
U ovoj situaciji sam na strani vlasti. Legalista.
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#17910 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Strasno nam znaci sto nas obozavas.
God bless.
God bless.
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#17911 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Podsjeti nas na kritiku Francuske od strane Amerike prilikom njihovih protesta?
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#17912 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Govorim o trecoj ili cetvrtoj generaciji Turaka ili MarokanacaPoint. wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:11Neće Švedske nikad zbog jednostavnog razloga. No, Obama nije ni Turčin ni Marokanac, nego Amer.detroit-mercy wrote: ↑02/06/2020 19:25Ali je bio dva puta izabran, valjda zaboravljas.
Da mi je samo vidjeti kada ce Turcin ili Markoanac biti presjednik Njemacke ili Svecke
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#17913 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Vrana vrani oci ne vadi.jeza u ledja wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:27Podsjeti nas na kritiku Francuske od strane Amerike prilikom njihovih protesta?
Mislio sam na neke druge drzave.
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#17914 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
bilo je na twitteru nedavno, neko napravio kolaz tvitova raznih ljudi sto su glorificirali i podrzavali porteste u hong kongu, freedom, democracy, i tako to, a sada im je do zastite imovine i reda i mira, drzava duradi nesto. 
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#17915 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Kako kazu, o svom se jadu zabavili. Tuga.omar little wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:29 bilo je na twitteru nedavno, neko napravio kolaz tvitova raznih ljudi sto su glorificirali i podrzavali porteste u hong kongu, freedom, democracy, i tako to, a sada im je do zastite imovine i reda i mira, drzava duradi nesto.
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#17916 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Mislis stajace mi na ledjima 10 minuta dok ne izdahnem?oaza85 wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:06Ponasa.
Napravi belaj da provjeris.
Kad te pocnu hapsiti pokusaj se opirati.
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#17917 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
U Francuskoj su bili legalni protesti, ali kad se umijesali oni idiotski nasilnici iz antife,jeza u ledja wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:27Podsjeti nas na kritiku Francuske od strane Amerike prilikom njihovih protesta?
sve je izgubilo kontrolu..
svi mirni protesti su opravdani..
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#17918 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Da, stajace ti na ledjima dok se ne smiris, ili izdahnes.jeza u ledja wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:30Mislis stajace mi na ledjima 10 minuta dok ne izdahnem?
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#17920 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
A ti si na strani Kineza..pa kad ulete i vrate jednu naprednu sredinu u srednji vijek..omar little wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:29 bilo je na twitteru nedavno, neko napravio kolaz tvitova raznih ljudi sto su glorificirali i podrzavali porteste u hong kongu, freedom, democracy, i tako to, a sada im je do zastite imovine i reda i mira, drzava duradi nesto.
ili Rusi kad ulete na Krim..
znaci to podrzavate..
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jeza u ledja
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#17921 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Znam ja da si mislio na "neke druge drzave", ali si drukcije formulisao post jer ti ne odgovara narativu kad znamo da se radi o drzavama koje su crne rupe planete.nosara wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:28Vrana vrani oci ne vadi.jeza u ledja wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:27Podsjeti nas na kritiku Francuske od strane Amerike prilikom njihovih protesta?
Mislio sam na neke druge drzave.
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#17922 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
A sta ako je policajac taj koji krsi zakon i koji je kriminalac, ako npr., ne znam, ubije recimo covjeka koji lezi na podu svezanih ruku? Na cijoj bi strani onda bio?
Znam, jako male sanse da se desi, vecina interakcija sa policijom ce proci sasvim ok, bez obzira koje si boje koze. Ovo mozda i jeste rijetkost, niko ne kaze da se ovakve stvari redovno desavaju. Medjutim, problem koji jeste sistematske prirode je taj sto ih se gotovo nikada ne drzi odgovornim. Ova situacija da nije ovako eskalirala i poprimila paznju javnosti kako jeste, ovaj drot ubica vrlo vjerovatno ne bi trpio nikakve ozbiljne posljedice, a gotovo sigurno ne bi krivicno odgovarao za ovo.
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#17923 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Pa uhapsis policajca i osudis ga primjereno, tako bi trebalo biti..Maxxtro wrote: ↑02/06/2020 20:38A sta ako je policajac taj koji krsi zakon i koji je kriminalac, ako npr., ne znam, ubije recimo covjeka koji lezi na podu svezanih ruku? Na cijoj bi strani onda bio?
Znam, jako male sanse da se desi, vecina interakcija sa policijom ce proci sasvim ok, bez obzira koje si boje koze. Ovo mozda i jeste rijetkost, niko ne kaze da se ovakve stvari redovno desavaju. Medjutim, problem koji jeste sistematske prirode je taj sto ih se gotovo nikada ne drzi odgovornim. Ova situacija da nije ovako eskalirala i poprimila paznju javnosti kako jeste, ovaj drot ubica vrlo vjerovatno ne bi trpio nikakve ozbiljne posljedice, a gotovo sigurno ne bi krivicno odgovarao za ovo.
e sad ne znam, jel tamo tako rade..na strani sam svakoga, ko je nevin..
kao i svakog kriminalca koji ubije, tako i policajca..
ali kod policije se malo tolerise..
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#17924 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Ovim kofol leftistima bogotac nemre napravit.
Ako zovne muriju i oni za visestrukog prestupnika kazu, ma hajde, dzaba ga hapsimo, sutra ce ga opet pustiti, oni se deru, ajjjj policija nista ne radi.
Ako se pojave, odvale mu bubrege, aajjjj policija je agresivna.
Ljudi ne znaju sta hoce.
Fino se ponasaj, ne kradi, ne otimaj, ne pravi belaj, nikad posla sa murijom neces imati.
Ne znam sta je tu komplikovano.
I oni bi najsretniji bili da im dan prodje u ispijanju kafe i jedenju krofni na benziskoj.
Ako zovne muriju i oni za visestrukog prestupnika kazu, ma hajde, dzaba ga hapsimo, sutra ce ga opet pustiti, oni se deru, ajjjj policija nista ne radi.
Ako se pojave, odvale mu bubrege, aajjjj policija je agresivna.
Ljudi ne znaju sta hoce.
Fino se ponasaj, ne kradi, ne otimaj, ne pravi belaj, nikad posla sa murijom neces imati.
Ne znam sta je tu komplikovano.
I oni bi najsretniji bili da im dan prodje u ispijanju kafe i jedenju krofni na benziskoj.
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#17925 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Fuck Trump. Fuck the police.