"The Whore Lived Like a German"
By Jody K. Biehl in Berlin
In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?
The shots came from nowhere and within minutes the young Turkish mother standing at the Berlin bus stop was dead. A telephone call from a relative had brought her to this cold, unforgiving place. She thought she would only be gone for a few minutes and wore a light jacket in the freezing February wind. She had left her five-year-old son asleep in his bed. He awoke looking for his mother, who, like many Turkish women in Germany, harbored a secret life of fear, courage and, ultimately, grief. Now her little boy has his own tragedy to bear: His mother, Hatin Surucu, was not the victim of random violence, but likely died at the hands of her own family in what is known as an "honor killing."
Hatin's crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her family's adopted land. The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical school where she was training to become an electrician and began klix German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways. Days after the crime, police arrested her three brothers, ages 25, 24 and 18. The youngest of the three allegedly bragged to his girlfriend about the Feb. 7 killing. At her funeral, Hakin's Turkish-Kurdish parents draped their only daughter's casket in verses from the Koran and buried her according to Muslim tradition. Absent of course, were the brothers, who were in jail.
The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly, but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the family's Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned. It seems hard to fathom, but in the middle of democratic Western Europe -- in Germany, a nation where pacifism is almost a universal mantra -- murderous macho patriotism not only exists but also appears to be thriving. It may even be Germany's liberalism -- and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures -- that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.
The problem is that much of this insular and ultra-religious world is out of public view, often hidden in inner-city apartments where the most influential links to the outside world are satellite dishes that receive Turkish and Arabic television and the local mosque. Tens of thousands of Turkish women live behind these walls of silence, in homes run by husbands many met on their wedding day and ruled by the ever-present verses of the Koran. In these families, loyalty and honor are elevated virtues and women are treated little better than slaves, unseen by society and often unnoticed or ignored by their German neighbors. To get what they want, these women have to run. They have to change their names, their passports, even their hair color and break with the families they often love, but simply can no longer obey.
Precise statistics on how many women die every year in such honor killings are hard to come by, as many crimes are never reported, said Myria Boehmecke of the Tuebingen-based women's group Terre des Femmes which, among other things, tries to protect Muslim klix and women from oppressive families. The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Examples include a Darmstadt girl whose two brothers pummelled her to death with a hockey stick in April 2004 after they learned she had slept with her boyfriend. In Augsburg in April, a man stabbed his wife and 7-year-old daughter because the wife was having an affair. In December 2003, a Tuebingen father strangled his 16-year-old daughter and threw her body into a lake because she had a boyfriend. Bullets, knives, even axes and gasoline are the weapons of choice. The crime list compiled by Papatya is an exercise in horror. And the sad part, said Boehmecke, is that it is far from complete. "We'll never really know how many victims there are. Too often these crimes go unreported."
In many cases, fathers -- and sometimes even mothers -- single out their youngest son to do the killing, Boehmecke said, "because they know minors will get lighter sentences from German judges." In some cases, these boys are revered by their community and fellow inmates as "honor heroes" -- a dementedly skewed status they carry with them for the rest of their lives. Currently, six boys are serving time in Berlin's juvenile prison for honor killings. "In a way, these boys are victims, too," she said. Sometimes they are forced to kill their favorite sister.
uprljana porodicna cast: THE DEATH OF A MUSLIM WOMAN
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kulambara
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Qwert
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Neces valjda ici putem ove kolubare. Ili bas zato.danas wrote:mozes li mi reci da li su ova "ubistva iz casti" posljedica nekog tumacenja kur'ana i islamskih stavova, ili su vise vezana za socijalni sloj i kulturu iz koje ovi ljudi dolaze?
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hananah
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#5
Mislim da se ovakve stvari desavaju u svim kulturama, dakle kako u Islamskoj tako i u bilo kojoj drugoj kulturi, i samo me buni to sta ce ovo na religiji, prije bih ovo stavila na diskusije jer je u pitanju cista ljubomora muza sa dobrim izgovorom
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List
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Al kad to ucini neko ko je po rodjenju musliman onda se digne hajka oko toga kako je za sve kriv Islam.hananah wrote:Mislim da se ovakve stvari desavaju u svim kulturama, dakle kako u Islamskoj tako i u bilo kojoj drugoj kulturi, i samo me buni to sta ce ovo na religiji, prije bih ovo stavila na diskusije jer je u pitanju cista ljubomora muza sa dobrim izgovorom
Na zalost. A na neciju radost.
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hananah
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Vjerska ucenja iz vjerskih knjiga ( ne od vjerskih sluzbenika) treba odvojiti od pojedinaca koji se iza religije kriju za svoja (ne)djela
Za mene je jedno Islam kao Islam, Kriscanstvo kao Kriscanstvo itd. a drugo je ono sto ljudi rade da bi iskrivili isto i svijetu predocili pogresnu sliku.
Npr. ni jedna religija ne odobrava ni ubistvo ni kradju a mnoge takve stvari se desavaju u ime religije, sto je potpuno pogresno i kukavicki i zlo, i sto potpuno kalja religije
Za mene je jedno Islam kao Islam, Kriscanstvo kao Kriscanstvo itd. a drugo je ono sto ljudi rade da bi iskrivili isto i svijetu predocili pogresnu sliku.
Npr. ni jedna religija ne odobrava ni ubistvo ni kradju a mnoge takve stvari se desavaju u ime religije, sto je potpuno pogresno i kukavicki i zlo, i sto potpuno kalja religije
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List
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Tacno. Dio islamskih ucenjaka tvrdi kako ono sto rade bombasi-samoubice nije grijeh.
Ali ovdje govorimo o ubistvu npr. necije kcerke jer se otkrila, obukla uske pantalone i usku majicu, nasminkala se i izasla u grad.
Ubistva zbog ovakvih postupaka jos niko nije odobrio.
U nekoliko zemalja postoji "vjerska policija" koja zenama ne dozvoljava da se krecu otkrivene (i mnoge druge stvari) ali niti jedan islamski ucenjak (koliko znam) ne poziva na ubistvo iz takvih razloga.
Uostalom, u zemljama gdje je zabranjeno da zene hodaju otkrivene to se nece ni desiti (a takvih zemalja nema bas mnogo, uglavnom su to zemlje u neposrednoj blizini Saudijske Arabije).
Ubistvo iz ovakvih razloga moze uciniti samo pojedinac (budala).
I to se nerijetko i desi. Onda se to vrti po CNN danima. Narocito ako se desi da muz ubije zenu u Iranu. Desi se jednom u 2 godine a CNN ce od toga napraviti takav skandal da ce prosjecan Amer pomislit da muzevi u Iranu zene vode ulicom kao pse.
Nikad nisam vidio objektivnu reportazu o Iranu na CNN. Konkretno o pravima koja tamo zene uzivaju. Tamo se zene mogu slobodno kretati (bez muske pratnje). I mogu se skolovati.
To nikad nisu rekli na CNN. Al zato uvijek palamude kad dodje do izvrsenja smrtnih kazni na nehuman nacin (vjesanje).
Propaganda cini cuda.
Ovo ne znaci da se ja slazem sa stanjem u Iranu. I da bih volio zivjeti u takvoj zemlji. Al Ameri pretjeruju.
Ali ovdje govorimo o ubistvu npr. necije kcerke jer se otkrila, obukla uske pantalone i usku majicu, nasminkala se i izasla u grad.
Ubistva zbog ovakvih postupaka jos niko nije odobrio.
U nekoliko zemalja postoji "vjerska policija" koja zenama ne dozvoljava da se krecu otkrivene (i mnoge druge stvari) ali niti jedan islamski ucenjak (koliko znam) ne poziva na ubistvo iz takvih razloga.
Uostalom, u zemljama gdje je zabranjeno da zene hodaju otkrivene to se nece ni desiti (a takvih zemalja nema bas mnogo, uglavnom su to zemlje u neposrednoj blizini Saudijske Arabije).
Ubistvo iz ovakvih razloga moze uciniti samo pojedinac (budala).
I to se nerijetko i desi. Onda se to vrti po CNN danima. Narocito ako se desi da muz ubije zenu u Iranu. Desi se jednom u 2 godine a CNN ce od toga napraviti takav skandal da ce prosjecan Amer pomislit da muzevi u Iranu zene vode ulicom kao pse.
Nikad nisam vidio objektivnu reportazu o Iranu na CNN. Konkretno o pravima koja tamo zene uzivaju. Tamo se zene mogu slobodno kretati (bez muske pratnje). I mogu se skolovati.
To nikad nisu rekli na CNN. Al zato uvijek palamude kad dodje do izvrsenja smrtnih kazni na nehuman nacin (vjesanje).
Propaganda cini cuda.
Ovo ne znaci da se ja slazem sa stanjem u Iranu. I da bih volio zivjeti u takvoj zemlji. Al Ameri pretjeruju.
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danas
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ne znam na kakav put mislis. ovo pitam jer ne znam da li odobrenje icega ovakvog postoji u kuranu (ne sjecam se vise) -- meni ovo vise lici na primitivizam i zadrtost ovih turskih anatolaca nego na nesto sto je "odobreno" islamom. isto kao sto u nekim africkim muslimanskim zemljama "sunete" zene, a to ne da nema veze sa islamom nego nidje veze -- to je ostatak lokalne kulture kao sto mi se cini da je za ova ubistva vise kriva kurdska patrijarhalna kultura nego islam. ali ne znam, nisam sigurna.Qwert wrote:Neces valjda ici putem ove kolubare. Ili bas zato.danas wrote:mozes li mi reci da li su ova "ubistva iz casti" posljedica nekog tumacenja kur'ana i islamskih stavova, ili su vise vezana za socijalni sloj i kulturu iz koje ovi ljudi dolaze?
interesovalo me je da li postoje sure u kur-anu koje ovako nesto odobravaju. koliko se sjecam, preljuba nije dozvoljena i kaznjiva je po kur-anu -- ali ove zene nisu ni ubijene zbog toga, vec sto se skinule samiju i upisale se u skolu koliko mogu da vidim...
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PR80.
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Cisti primitivizam. Ovo nema nikakve veze sa Islamom, samo sto to nazalost Zapad i kao Zapad jedva cekaju pa usmjere prema religiji. Dozivljavam i gledam debate u vezi ovakvih slicnih dogadjaja iz dana u dan i bez obzira koliko mi njih htjeli ubjediti da to nema nikakve veze sa religijom, tj Islamom, oni ce i dalje da misle svoje...
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sirah
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ali griješe, bitka se vodi na bojnom polju........List wrote:Tacno. Dio islamskih ucenjaka tvrdi kako ono sto rade bombasi-samoubice nije grijeh.
civila, nenaoružanog čovijeka JE GRIJEH UBITI (i to ogroman, ubij čovjeka kao da si ubio čovječanstvo)
taj dio islamskih učenjaka fino sjedi u svojoj fotelji i huškal huška......
era je modernog naoružanja, gdje nije potrebno okupiti masu ljudi za pobjedu, dovoljna je manja grupica ali dobro opremljena.......
sad skontajte kakav je to jihad kada neko ide na zrno od tenka goloruk..... (to je potpuno bespotrebno, osim ako ne nosi nekakvu poruku samom napadaču kao "halo ba koji ti je futon, ne treba ti utoka, ako imaš para kupi to što ti treba")
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love
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Dzihad nije samo unutarnja borba,dzihad moze biti i borba protiv onih koji zele unistiti islam...kao bitka na Bedru,to se zove veliki dzihaddanas wrote:to je izvorno znacenje rijeci, da. kao sto je islam "poniznost" (pred bogom).stella_k wrote:Mislim da sam nekada negdje procitala da je JIHAD unutarnja borba na putu do duhovne cistoce, do Allaha.
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zlata
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Pa jel'l' slucajno da su muslimanke iznimno sikanirane? Je'l' slucajno da je to uocljivo u svim "islamskim" sredinama? Kako to da SVI muslimani ISTO "neispravno" tumace Kur'an...kad se tice zena?haris303 wrote:Neki zaista shvate da je demokratija da tumače Kur'an onako kako to oni hoće....... i onda je sve moguće naravno.......