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#176 Re: Svaštara
Nisam ni siguran kakvu infrastrukturu ima Australija. Vjerovatno se stadioni mogu adaptirati, ali dodati problem, mislim da im traje sezona njihovog fudbala i kriketa tokom naseg ljeta.
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Osmi Socrates
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#177 Re: Svaštara
Čim Infantino kaže da se razmatra da sljedeće SP ima 64 reprezentacije, to će se i desiti. Idu na izborima sljedeće godine glasovi od svih afričkih, azijskih i južnoameričkih saveza.
Pa glasajte za njega, jbg, onda kukajte.
Pa glasajte za njega, jbg, onda kukajte.
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Osmi Socrates
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#178 Re: Svaštara
Evropa će ostati na 16 reprezentacija, k'o da gledam. 
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#179 Re: Svaštara
Najveća je sramota da Australija nikako da dobije organizaciju SP.
Da im lakse prodje kandidatura, ne znam zašto se ne udruze sa Novim Zelandom.
Da im lakse prodje kandidatura, ne znam zašto se ne udruze sa Novim Zelandom.
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#180 Re: Svaštara
Ne mogu. Nemaju infrastrukturu, udaljeni previse od ostatka svijeta, sezona australskog fudbala i ragbija ometa, komplikovano.sime_cipol wrote: ↑12/07/2026 23:11 Najveća je sramota da Australija nikako da dobije organizaciju SP.
Da im lakse prodje kandidatura, ne znam zašto se ne udruze sa Novim Zelandom.
Evo ispod c/p sa reddita gdje je objasnjeno.
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Yep, no matter how many times you explain the issues, people seem to think that because we have big stadiums and public transport, we can meet FIFA's requirements. We can't. Reposting from the last time someone suggested this on this sub (less than two weeks ago):
FIFA need a minimum 14 stadiums that can seat 40,000 (we have 10, soon to be 11), and we would need to be able to have those stadiums with no AFL or NRL in the middle of their season. Given that almost all of those stadiums are used every week for Rugby, NRL or AFL... we would need to negotiate with all those codes to either shut down their seasons for the entirety of June and a sizable chunk of July, or pay them to move to other grounds. Then, once that's done, we'd still need 3 new/upgraded stadiums as a minimum just to meet seating requirements.
I cannot see a world where we can convince the AFL to go without MCG, Marvel (that is 100% owned by the AFL anyway), Adelaide Oval, Optus Stadium, SCG etc for the 8 weeks FIFA needs exclusive use of, but even if each code agrees to let FIFA have half the stadiums for that time, we would still be close to 10 stadiums short.
Then, many of our stadiums would require sizable refurbishment inside and out due to a lack of parking options - for example, the MCG doesn't meet the men's requirement for parking and the safety perimeter would have to start on the other side of the trainline in Melbourne Park, Allianz/SCG couldn't meet perimeter/safety requirements without also shutting down Moore Park Road, Driver Avenue, and potentially even moving some of the entire of the entertainment precinct inside the perimeter (which they did to some businesses in Vancouver), and neither Suncorp nor The Gabba would not be able to set up any perimeter that meets FIFA standards at all even if it shut down nearby streets and businesses as there isn't enough space... so we would not be able to have any games in Brisbane.
In theory, the outer perimeter is meant to provide enough space for 100% of ticketholders to be outside the stadium but inside the perimeter at any one time - that works really well at Accor, but is probably not physically possible at Suncorp/Gabba. Neither Qatar nor the US have any stadiums as tight to existing residential as we do. In Vancouver, which is the most congested area for any of the 2026 stadiums, the outer perimeter area is bigger than the stadium. We just can't provide that at every location without bulldozing entire blocks.
We are also required to provide a minimum 72 places for training camps that also have higher standard than the women's training camps, all that have hotels that are of the required standard with enough rooms for the entire squad/coaching/staff/hangers on (that's something like 60 rooms available) and it has to be within 20 minutes drive. We currently only have 13 across the whole country that currently meet that standard - there's zero doubt we could have at least triple that if we bothered to build the security/privacy fences and then get them certified, but it's another hurdle.
Then you've got the reality that the timezone and travel costs would make this the least profitable World Cup location, so you're asking a money centric organisation to vote against their primary interest.
TL;DR: we aren't hosting a World Cup anytime soon unless we're going to spend $10 billion plus and get AFL/NRL/Super Rugby/governments to all agree due to not enough large stadiums, no space for FIFA requirements around perimeters and parking, difficulties with training sites, and us being less profitable than anywhere else that could host.
FIFA need a minimum 14 stadiums that can seat 40,000 (we have 10, soon to be 11), and we would need to be able to have those stadiums with no AFL or NRL in the middle of their season. Given that almost all of those stadiums are used every week for Rugby, NRL or AFL... we would need to negotiate with all those codes to either shut down their seasons for the entirety of June and a sizable chunk of July, or pay them to move to other grounds. Then, once that's done, we'd still need 3 new/upgraded stadiums as a minimum just to meet seating requirements.
I cannot see a world where we can convince the AFL to go without MCG, Marvel (that is 100% owned by the AFL anyway), Adelaide Oval, Optus Stadium, SCG etc for the 8 weeks FIFA needs exclusive use of, but even if each code agrees to let FIFA have half the stadiums for that time, we would still be close to 10 stadiums short.
Then, many of our stadiums would require sizable refurbishment inside and out due to a lack of parking options - for example, the MCG doesn't meet the men's requirement for parking and the safety perimeter would have to start on the other side of the trainline in Melbourne Park, Allianz/SCG couldn't meet perimeter/safety requirements without also shutting down Moore Park Road, Driver Avenue, and potentially even moving some of the entire of the entertainment precinct inside the perimeter (which they did to some businesses in Vancouver), and neither Suncorp nor The Gabba would not be able to set up any perimeter that meets FIFA standards at all even if it shut down nearby streets and businesses as there isn't enough space... so we would not be able to have any games in Brisbane.
In theory, the outer perimeter is meant to provide enough space for 100% of ticketholders to be outside the stadium but inside the perimeter at any one time - that works really well at Accor, but is probably not physically possible at Suncorp/Gabba. Neither Qatar nor the US have any stadiums as tight to existing residential as we do. In Vancouver, which is the most congested area for any of the 2026 stadiums, the outer perimeter area is bigger than the stadium. We just can't provide that at every location without bulldozing entire blocks.
We are also required to provide a minimum 72 places for training camps that also have higher standard than the women's training camps, all that have hotels that are of the required standard with enough rooms for the entire squad/coaching/staff/hangers on (that's something like 60 rooms available) and it has to be within 20 minutes drive. We currently only have 13 across the whole country that currently meet that standard - there's zero doubt we could have at least triple that if we bothered to build the security/privacy fences and then get them certified, but it's another hurdle.
Then you've got the reality that the timezone and travel costs would make this the least profitable World Cup location, so you're asking a money centric organisation to vote against their primary interest.
TL;DR: we aren't hosting a World Cup anytime soon unless we're going to spend $10 billion plus and get AFL/NRL/Super Rugby/governments to all agree due to not enough large stadiums, no space for FIFA requirements around perimeters and parking, difficulties with training sites, and us being less profitable than anywhere else that could host.
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Osmi Socrates
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#181 Re: Svaštara
Ne mogu potrefiti kad mogu i Azija i Okeanija istovremeno.
Infantino sve zbućkurišio.
Dobro su Australija i Novi Zeland zajedno organizirali SP za žene, ali kod muškog turnira su daleko veći ulozi.
Infantino sve zbućkurišio.
Dobro su Australija i Novi Zeland zajedno organizirali SP za žene, ali kod muškog turnira su daleko veći ulozi.
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#182 Re: Svaštara
Cetiri najvise plasirane ekipe na FIFA ljestvici su u polufinalu. Jel se ovo ikad desilo?
Znam da se od 1990-e nije desilo da su sve 4 ekipe u polufinalu bivsi sampioni.
Znam da se od 1990-e nije desilo da su sve 4 ekipe u polufinalu bivsi sampioni.
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#183 Re: Svaštara
2030 - Evropa, Afrika i Juzna Amerika
2034 - Azijia
2038 - Sj Amerika i Okeanija (samo NZ)
Mislim da je FIFA napravila potez sa juznom Amerikom 2030,.da ne mogu onda 2038, pa nazad u Sj Ameriku.
Amerika vec pravi novi plan za kandidaturu, a Meksiko planira sa drugim centralnim drzavama da se kandiduje.
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Osmi Socrates
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#184 Re: Svaštara
Infantino je taj potez napravio i da SP 2034 da Saudijskoj Arabiji.
Čovjek i ne sakriva da je do grla u korupciji.
Čovjek i ne sakriva da je do grla u korupciji.
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#185 Re: Svaštara
Do 2038 će narandža krepati i Infatino biti long gone a MAGA ideologija služiti kao opomena šta se može desiti, tako da vjerovatno nećemo gledati slične scene kao ove godine.
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#186 Re: Svaštara
Dabogda 2034. ili 2038.bilo SP, a ne Igre gladi 
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Osmi Socrates
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#187 Re: Svaštara
Ma i toga ima.
Neće mene stići, ja planiram u penziju na Arubu.
A i fudbal je izgleda postalo nemoralno gledati.
Možda ću još šanse dati Premier Ligi da me ubjedi u suprotno.
Do kraja svjetskog se isključivo zajebavam.
Samo indijanci mogu 104 utakmice izdržati a da im ne pukne film.
Neće mene stići, ja planiram u penziju na Arubu.
A i fudbal je izgleda postalo nemoralno gledati.
Možda ću još šanse dati Premier Ligi da me ubjedi u suprotno.
Do kraja svjetskog se isključivo zajebavam.
Samo indijanci mogu 104 utakmice izdržati a da im ne pukne film.
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#188 Re: Svaštara
Diego Forlan novi selektor Urugvaja 
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Osmi Socrates
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#189 Re: Svaštara
Jedan od rijetkih gospodina u urugvajskom fudbalu. Možda zaigraju ljepši fudbal. U južnoameričkom okruženju teško, ali nada zadnja umire.
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#190 Re: Svaštara
Karte za arg eng skuplje od fra v spa. Za fra spa ljudi nasli kartu za $500, dok najjeftinije za drugu tekmu $3000.
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omar little
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#192 Re: Svaštara
gledam sad ovo oko predstave za finale. 30 minuta izmedju poluvremena. pola sata pauze je problem za igrace, misici se ohlade, izvrgavaju ljude povredama bez razloga. da bi americki lesinari mogli grabiti pare.
infantinu malo fali da krene igrati poluvremena u dva razlicita dana, posebna karta sa svako poluvrijeme, 45 minuta za predstave ocvalih pjevackih hezbina i to posebno da se naplati. novcaniceee.
infantinu malo fali da krene igrati poluvremena u dva razlicita dana, posebna karta sa svako poluvrijeme, 45 minuta za predstave ocvalih pjevackih hezbina i to posebno da se naplati. novcaniceee.
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Osmi Socrates
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#193 Re: Svaštara
Milei će skoro sigurno biti na finalu, pored Trumpa. On posjećuje Ameriku za Trumpove mitinge, već je bio u Americi preko 20 puta.
Ovo sigurno neće propustiti.
Sa druge strane, ovo su Trumpove riječi o Španiji na NATO samitu.
"Spain is a terrible partner in NATO. They don’t participate. They don’t pay. I don’t want anything to do with Spain. Cut off all trade with Spain, please, including visits. Don’t even talk to them. They’re hopeless, bad people. There are a couple of others, but in particular Spain."
Nazvao ih "a wasted cause".
Tako da se najvjerovatnije ni španski kralj ni španski premijer neće pojaviti na finalu.
Ima još nešto. FIFA još treba donijeti odluku gdje će biti finale SP 2030, u Maroku ili u Španiji. Trump je u odličnim odnosima sa Kraljem Maroka, i navodno nagovara Infantina, dok ga još ima pod kontrolom, da odluči da se finale održi na stadionu koji Marokanci grade blizu Kazablanke.
Santiago Bernabeu je drugi kandidat, i navodno je bio vodeći, ali sad ni to nije sigurno.
Sa druge strane, ovo su Trumpove riječi o Španiji na NATO samitu.
"Spain is a terrible partner in NATO. They don’t participate. They don’t pay. I don’t want anything to do with Spain. Cut off all trade with Spain, please, including visits. Don’t even talk to them. They’re hopeless, bad people. There are a couple of others, but in particular Spain."
Nazvao ih "a wasted cause".
Tako da se najvjerovatnije ni španski kralj ni španski premijer neće pojaviti na finalu.
Ima još nešto. FIFA još treba donijeti odluku gdje će biti finale SP 2030, u Maroku ili u Španiji. Trump je u odličnim odnosima sa Kraljem Maroka, i navodno nagovara Infantina, dok ga još ima pod kontrolom, da odluči da se finale održi na stadionu koji Marokanci grade blizu Kazablanke.
Santiago Bernabeu je drugi kandidat, i navodno je bio vodeći, ali sad ni to nije sigurno.
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Osmi Socrates
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#194 Re: Svaštara
Alireza Faghani iz Australije favorit da sudi finale.
Za utakmicu za treće mjesto nema očiglednog favorita.
Za utakmicu za treće mjesto nema očiglednog favorita.
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#195 Re: Svaštara
A celavo govno je dobro ovo odradio, Amerika ponovo kandidat 2038 za svjetsko. Znamo da se rotira po kontinentima, a slijedece svjetsko kaci 3 kontinenta i ako ce se u juznoj americi odigrati po jedna tekma samo, ali se ipak broji. 2034 azija, dakle Saudijska Arabija i onda na red opet dolazi sjeverna amerika
. Za australiju govore da jos nema infrastrukture tako da nevjerujem da ce oni dobiti ikad.
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Osmi Socrates
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#196 Re: Svaštara
Priča se po kuloarima da bi Amerika,, Novi Zeland i Fidži (da, Fidži, nije greška) mogli podnijeti zajedničku kandidaturu za to prvenstvo, da bi Infantino nastavio sa korupcijom dodajući joj nove nivoe idiotluka. 
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#197 Re: Svaštara
kako je krenulo, sa gas maskama ce se igrati finale
https://www.klix.ba/sport/nogomet/svi-a ... /260717124
https://www.klix.ba/sport/nogomet/svi-a ... /260717124
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#198 Re: Svaštara
kad nastupa shaKira? na poluvremenu ili na kraju?
btw pratim svjetska od '98. Ovo je ubjedljivo najgore sto se tice organizacije. Cak su i arapi organizovali prije 4 godine. ova usa je ubjedljivo najveca ubleha
btw pratim svjetska od '98. Ovo je ubjedljivo najgore sto se tice organizacije. Cak su i arapi organizovali prije 4 godine. ova usa je ubjedljivo najveca ubleha
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#199 Re: Svaštara
Iznenađen sam da Lesi nije igrac prvenstva.
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omar little
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#200 Re: Svaštara
eto ga. ode jos jedno svjetsko. sta sad bez baluna? 
