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#26 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Znam kad nekog potrefis u oko s tim 
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#27 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
ovo je auto

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#28 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
ako ima 5 brzina nije,najbolji je onaj sa 4 
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#29 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
I to, onolika snaga na 4 brzine, ludara.
Sta je specijalno s ovim bijelim pa ima 220ks mjesto 174 ?
Sta je specijalno s ovim bijelim pa ima 220ks mjesto 174 ?
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#30 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
pa tako pitaj,sve je specijalno nije to obicni auto u rukama obicnog covjeka,prerade na tom autu su bile skupe i sveobuhvatne 
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#31 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Ono sto mene zanima je, sto ga prodaje?
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#32 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
kupuje G2D 
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#33 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
ja tebe sto ga prodaje.............madner wrote:Ono sto mene zanima je, sto ga prodaje?
razlozi su poznati vlasniku,nazoves i pitas
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#34 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Sta vam je auto skrivilo, gdje ces jos naci traktora u kupe / sedan obliku sem g2d i volva 240d2 wrote:kupuje G2D
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#35 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Ne vjerujem vlasnicima, reko da vidim imas li kakvih informacija iz mahale.Bakir1 wrote:ja tebe sto ga prodaje.............madner wrote:Ono sto mene zanima je, sto ga prodaje?
razlozi su poznati vlasniku,nazoves i pitas
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#36 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
slavko, jesi ti inače glup kao famozni likovi ili ti ga organi iz pjesme?
čuj Lancia Delta kvarljivo auto...sjedi 1...
čuj Lancia Delta kvarljivo auto...sjedi 1...
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#37 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Renault R21 General Information
The Renault R21 came at a time when many things changed in Renault's car design. The R21 was a clear cut, straight, no nonsense design, it was a modern and functional saloon and it's ride would earn the highest ratings even today. Indeed the R21 is definitely one of the most underrated cars there ever was. Such superb was its ride and comfort that, believe it or not, its successor, the Renault Laguna, could hardly better the R21 - and the Laguna is absolutely reknown for its fantastic ride! But more so, the R21 Turbo was the first turbo charged Renault with an OHC camshaft layout - yes, all the incredible R5 versions were UHC! More, Renault was one of the first brands to market FWD, yet they regularly featured longitudinal engines, a strange layout combined with FWD it seems nowadays. The R21 came right at the time this was to change and as a result the R21 is probably the only car ever designed that was available with longitudinal as well as transverse engines - the R5 changed to transverse engines following a face lift, but with the R21 the diesels and the 2.2 petrol were longitudinal, all other engines transverse in one and the same model and year of car!
But coming to rally terms, the R21 was indeed made in a version called R21 Turbo Quadra - a turbo 4x4. This however was a limited edition road car with production numbers too small for group A & group N homologation, such a serious return of Renault to the WRC was eliminated by the rules. Funny enough this fate Renault shared with Peugeot: The R21 Turbo Quadra and the Peugeot 405 T16 where both turbo 4x4 cars limited to 400 units (405 T16 = 1000 units but over 2.5 years = 400 per annum), which would have been sufficient for group 4, but not for the post 1987 regs. And both these brands were full of criticism when the FIA changed the WRC from group B to group A. Both Renault and Peugeot now claimed they created these cars as homologation specials and would return to the WRC if it wasn't for the required 5000 units per annum! Only the FWD version of the R21 Turbo was produced in sufficient numbers and with FWD there seemed to be not much point in a powerful group A version - again a similar fate to Peugeot, where only the non-turbo 405 MI16x4 was made in sufficient numbers for modern homologation. However here the Renault solution was better than Peugeot's opposite option. The R21 with turbo but without heavy 4x4 was far more of a sports car than the 405 without turbo but the heavy and torque eating 4x4 drive train.
The group N version of the R21 Turbo however was superb and famous, it only had one problem: it stayed in the shadow of the group N R5 GT Turbo! Nevertheless, compared to the R5 GT Turbo the R21 Turbo had a 2.0 engine that "only" produced 175BHP but an amazing 270NM torque. Bozian actually had an R21 Turbo up to 245BHP, still based on the group N car, which only shows what could have been possible with some group A development. However a group A project was never suported, so the car was officially never more than group N. The torque could easily make up for weight and size and made the R21 a serious contender in the faster and more flowing stages. The car came to major fame in French regional events with drivers as Michel Rats and Philippe Bugalski. Bugalski also took the car to WRC events, but he failed to prove the car's potential, twice he had to withdraw following road accidents!
Za one koji misle da je svijet nastao u Njemackoj malo procitajte, pa onda raspravljajte!
The Renault R21 came at a time when many things changed in Renault's car design. The R21 was a clear cut, straight, no nonsense design, it was a modern and functional saloon and it's ride would earn the highest ratings even today. Indeed the R21 is definitely one of the most underrated cars there ever was. Such superb was its ride and comfort that, believe it or not, its successor, the Renault Laguna, could hardly better the R21 - and the Laguna is absolutely reknown for its fantastic ride! But more so, the R21 Turbo was the first turbo charged Renault with an OHC camshaft layout - yes, all the incredible R5 versions were UHC! More, Renault was one of the first brands to market FWD, yet they regularly featured longitudinal engines, a strange layout combined with FWD it seems nowadays. The R21 came right at the time this was to change and as a result the R21 is probably the only car ever designed that was available with longitudinal as well as transverse engines - the R5 changed to transverse engines following a face lift, but with the R21 the diesels and the 2.2 petrol were longitudinal, all other engines transverse in one and the same model and year of car!
But coming to rally terms, the R21 was indeed made in a version called R21 Turbo Quadra - a turbo 4x4. This however was a limited edition road car with production numbers too small for group A & group N homologation, such a serious return of Renault to the WRC was eliminated by the rules. Funny enough this fate Renault shared with Peugeot: The R21 Turbo Quadra and the Peugeot 405 T16 where both turbo 4x4 cars limited to 400 units (405 T16 = 1000 units but over 2.5 years = 400 per annum), which would have been sufficient for group 4, but not for the post 1987 regs. And both these brands were full of criticism when the FIA changed the WRC from group B to group A. Both Renault and Peugeot now claimed they created these cars as homologation specials and would return to the WRC if it wasn't for the required 5000 units per annum! Only the FWD version of the R21 Turbo was produced in sufficient numbers and with FWD there seemed to be not much point in a powerful group A version - again a similar fate to Peugeot, where only the non-turbo 405 MI16x4 was made in sufficient numbers for modern homologation. However here the Renault solution was better than Peugeot's opposite option. The R21 with turbo but without heavy 4x4 was far more of a sports car than the 405 without turbo but the heavy and torque eating 4x4 drive train.
The group N version of the R21 Turbo however was superb and famous, it only had one problem: it stayed in the shadow of the group N R5 GT Turbo! Nevertheless, compared to the R5 GT Turbo the R21 Turbo had a 2.0 engine that "only" produced 175BHP but an amazing 270NM torque. Bozian actually had an R21 Turbo up to 245BHP, still based on the group N car, which only shows what could have been possible with some group A development. However a group A project was never suported, so the car was officially never more than group N. The torque could easily make up for weight and size and made the R21 a serious contender in the faster and more flowing stages. The car came to major fame in French regional events with drivers as Michel Rats and Philippe Bugalski. Bugalski also took the car to WRC events, but he failed to prove the car's potential, twice he had to withdraw following road accidents!
Za one koji misle da je svijet nastao u Njemackoj malo procitajte, pa onda raspravljajte!
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#38 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
covjek ima svoj zivot a razlozi prodaje automobila,i da ih znam,nema sanse da bih o njima polemisao na forumu.Ne vjerujem vlasnicima, reko da vidim imas li kakvih informacija iz mahale.
tema je glupa zato sto ja sad govorim subjektivno i upalilo me je sto je stavljen bas taj automobil od bas tog momka,zbog toga sam komentarisao a inace ne bih jer za tudje stavove-misljenja-predrasude me boli mracni cosak,svako ima pravo i mogucnost kako ce sta posmatrati,dozivljavati.
to je to od mene.
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#39 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Tvoj post je prijavljen, administracija ce vjerujem odraditi svoje...johntra wrote:slavko, jesi ti inače glup kao famozni likovi ili ti ga organi iz pjesme?
čuj Lancia Delta kvarljivo auto...sjedi 1...
A sto se tice tvog komentara, da, Lancia Delta Integrale je izuzetno kvarljiv auto... malo se informisi, prije nego pocnes prozivati druge za neznanje...
Svojevremeno sam navijao za Kankkunena dok je vozio integralku na reliju, vozio prvu seriju (HF turbo), ali sve je to vjerovatno prije nego si znao voziti bicikl bez pomocnih tockova, tako da me ne cudi previse...
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#40 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
ma prijavi me, ako hoćeš Lajčaku i kome god želiš...
ja sam vozio prvu generaciju i ne mogu se pohvaliti nekom jačinom, naime bila je verzija 1,3 i auto me je sasvim koretkno slušalo...druga stvar, imam prijatelja koji vozi 1,6 HF Turbo i to u ovo vrijeme, znači vozi je svakodnevno...jedini problem je potražnja karoserijskih dijelova, auto sluša i vozi normalno....
Lancie i generalno sva italijanska auta su kvarljiva, ukoliko se ne održavaju onako kako je to propisao proizvođač...
ja sam vozio prvu generaciju i ne mogu se pohvaliti nekom jačinom, naime bila je verzija 1,3 i auto me je sasvim koretkno slušalo...druga stvar, imam prijatelja koji vozi 1,6 HF Turbo i to u ovo vrijeme, znači vozi je svakodnevno...jedini problem je potražnja karoserijskih dijelova, auto sluša i vozi normalno....
Lancie i generalno sva italijanska auta su kvarljiva, ukoliko se ne održavaju onako kako je to propisao proizvođač...
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#41 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Poskidas sve iz njega ,samo jedno sjediste ostavis ,malo dotjerivanja i pravac brdo

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#42 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
De mu cadvi molim te ,hajde ba makar dvicu (2)johntra wrote:slavko, jesi ti inače glup kao famozni likovi ili ti ga organi iz pjesme?
čuj Lancia Delta kvarljivo auto...sjedi 1...
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#43 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Prodaje ga tip da još neko osjeti radost vožnje 220 KS nakon tek 20 godina eksploatacije (a sve strogo po sedam hiljada godišnje).
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#44 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Sta je tako kvarljivo na njoj?slavkoimamodilera wrote:A sto se tice tvog komentara, da, Lancia Delta Integrale je izuzetno kvarljiv auto... malo se informisi, prije nego pocnes prozivati druge za neznanje... Svojevremeno sam navijao za Kankkunena dok je vozio integralku na reliju, vozio prvu seriju (HF turbo), ali sve je to vjerovatno prije nego si znao voziti bicikl bez pomocnih tockova, tako da me ne cudi previse...
Auto trazi superiorno odrzavanje, i ako se zeza sa neodgovarajucim dijelovima i nestrucnim majstorima, nastat ce problem. No ipak je to auto sa kraja 80-ih godina, koje je ubrzavalo do stotke za nekih 5.7 sekundi. A tako brz automobil ni danas jos mnogi proizvodjaci nemaju u svojoj ponudi. Pa evo ti Evolution VIII i IX, redovni servis je svakih 7500 km, a osim ulja u motoru, filtera i sl, mjenja se i ulje u mjenjacu i diferencijalima. Pa i s tim ako se neko bude zezao, moze mu auto biti "nepouzdan", a uopste to nije. Na Delti Integrale vazda zezaju neke sitnice i zna motor zajebavati ak se fino ne pazi, inace mjenjac, pogon na sva 4 tocka su jako pouzdani, a i za danasnje vrijeme vrlo napredni. Da ne spominjemo najvazniju stvar, kako se taj auto dobro vozi. U tome Integralki ne moze blizu prici ni 5% novih automobila.
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#45 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
govoris tako o dva moja omiljena auta, gorices u dzehenemuzel wrote:Sta vam je auto skrivilo, gdje ces jos naci traktora u kupe / sedan obliku sem g2d i volva 240d2 wrote:kupuje G2D
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#46 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
kakvi talijani i francuzi
to se kvari dok kazes keks
ocam g2d, al stara tipa, cetr brzine, cetres kilovata, ocam kako ide, a ne kvari se nikad, cak ni turski i srbijanski delovi se ne kvare, makbel protekt gume ne pucaju i ne klizu allahami, da naspem eurodizela umjesto loze iso bi i na stritrejs
to se kvari dok kazes keks
ocam g2d, al stara tipa, cetr brzine, cetres kilovata, ocam kako ide, a ne kvari se nikad, cak ni turski i srbijanski delovi se ne kvare, makbel protekt gume ne pucaju i ne klizu allahami, da naspem eurodizela umjesto loze iso bi i na stritrejs
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#47 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Ma nije to tema, ali eto... vise manje sve, osim zaista pogona... elektronika je toliko musicava da te u velikoj vecini slucajeva sprjecava da uopce bilo gdje krenes, dihtunzi glave izgaraju konstantno zbog pregrijavanja, cemu je uzrok turbina koja je izrazito napregnuta (jer je mala sto joj omogucava brzi spool, ali je zbog toga izvrgnuta jako velikim brzinama kako bi puhala dovoljan pritisak za toliko konja), pa nije rijetkost da i ona crkne prije vremena... sva ostala elektrika je misterija s kojom se, ako cemo biti posteni (a neskriveni sam ljubitelj Alfe), talijani bore i danas...VR6 wrote:Sta je tako kvarljivo na njoj?
Ne trebas mi pricati o odrzavanju, svjestan sam ja toga i sam imam u garazi auto koji se jednostavno ne smije voziti bez zaista superiornog odrzavanja i rezervi para.
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#48 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
OVA TRICA ZAKON AUTO, BEZ ZEZANJA, TO MI JE JEDNO OD NAJDRAZIH,DOBRO SI GA SREDIO PRAVOmadner wrote:zel wrote:Moja orginalna poruka fakat nije nista imala sa autom na slici. Jednostavno sam povezao motor i 2 mjenjaca, sa generalnom francuskom kvalitetom i nabacio. Svaki proizvodjac ima svojih bisera, r21T je ocigledno jedan od njih. Odbrana je bila na nivouRazuvjerili ste me
Madner jarane, sto se tiche stednje, na autu ne stedim, sam bog zna koliko sam love ulozio u svoje staro auto, da bi napravio sebi vozilicu da mogu uzivati kad vozim. http://www.finn.no/finn/car/object?finnkode=14092182 . Srce mi se juche paralo dok sam oglas pravio, al jbg
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#49 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
Cega 48.000? Odnosno, koliko je para?
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#50 Re: Sto ti je francuz covjece ...
To je stvar ukusa, mene recimo ono pimp my ride ne zanima previse.
Jeste sminka, ali ne vozi se bolje zbog alu felgi koje se okrecu kad stojis
Jeste sminka, ali ne vozi se bolje zbog alu felgi koje se okrecu kad stojis
