Silajdzic je ispravno postupio ?

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Jastreb35
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Silajdzic je ispravno postupio ?

Post by Jastreb35 » 28/06/2006 00:17

U tekstu danas usvojene rezolucije Savjeta Evrope, amnestira se sabotere (zamalo) dogovorenih amandmana na ustav. Smeta mi to sto Silajdzic politiku tretira kao sezonsko galebarenje, ali reakcija Savjeta Evrope je grom iz vedra neba. Da se usvajanje amandmana nije sabotiralo, danas ne bi imali jednoglasno usvojenu rezoluciju Savjeta Evrope kojom se trazi ukidanje entitetskog glasanja. Osim toga, u rezoluciji pise :

20.1.replace the mechanisms of ethnic representation by representation based on the civic principle, notably by ending the constitutional discrimination against "Others";

20.2.find efficient and rational decision-making procedures that are not sacrificed to the principle of involving representatives of each constituent people in any decision;

20.3.review the territorial organisation of the State and its division into entities, cantons and municipalities and the repartition of competences between the state and the lower levels with a view to increasing efficiency and sustainability;

20.4.review the necessity of having three official languages;

20.5.examine how to integrate the Brčko District.

21. The Assembly also urges the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina to adopt and/or implement, as soon as possible, the laws at state and entity level that are necessary in order to fulfil the remaining Council of Europe commitments, notably:

21.1. the laws on higher education that should include accreditation and financing at state level;

21.2. the State level law on primary and secondary education with a view to ending ethnic segregation in schools;

21.3. the by-laws on a sustainable public broadcasting service;

21.4. the police reform, in accordance with the three principles set by the EU Commission;

21.5. the local government reforms, notably in the Federation, and the reunification of Mostar;

21.6. the laws needed for an effective protection of the rights of all minorities;

21.7. the creation of a state-level supreme court to enhance the reform of the judiciary.

Internet prezentacija Savjeta Evrope

http://jastreb.blogger.ba/


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Post by Grom iz vedra neba » 28/06/2006 01:25

Mislim da je ispravno postupio, barem je to Dodik pokazao sa referendumom. Da su oni amandmani koji nisu mijenjali kvalititet nego kvantitet prosli (npr. etnicki princip i sve ono sto je bilo je zadrzano, osim broja poslanika koji mogu da blokiraju po etnickom principu, jal 25% jal 33% isti djavo drugo pakovanje, sminka obicna), prica o ustavu ne bi se vise nikad pokrenula, OHR je svakako najavio odlazak sljedece godine, tako da Dodik i kompanija ne bi imali nikakvih obaveza da bilo sta naprave sto se tice nastavka reformi.

Ovako se reforme moraju napraviti prije odlaska OHR-a, kako bi BiH bila samoodrziva i kako npr. jedan Spiric ne bi blokirao Drzavni parlament kad mu se prohtije.

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Re: Silajdzic je ispravno postupio ?

Post by boric » 28/06/2006 02:54

Jastreb35 wrote:U tekstu danas usvojene rezolucije Savjeta Evrope, amnestira se sabotere (zamalo) dogovorenih amandmana na ustav. Smeta mi to sto Silajdzic politiku tretira kao sezonsko galebarenje, ali reakcija Savjeta Evrope je grom iz vedra neba. Da se usvajanje amandmana nije sabotiralo, danas ne bi imali jednoglasno usvojenu rezoluciju Savjeta Evrope kojom se trazi ukidanje entitetskog glasanja. Osim toga, u rezoluciji pise :

20.1.replace the mechanisms of ethnic representation by representation based on the civic principle, notably by ending the constitutional discrimination against "Others";

20.2.find efficient and rational decision-making procedures that are not sacrificed to the principle of involving representatives of each constituent people in any decision;

20.3.review the territorial organisation of the State and its division into entities, cantons and municipalities and the repartition of competences between the state and the lower levels with a view to increasing efficiency and sustainability;

20.4.review the necessity of having three official languages;

20.5.examine how to integrate the Brčko District.

21. The Assembly also urges the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina to adopt and/or implement, as soon as possible, the laws at state and entity level that are necessary in order to fulfil the remaining Council of Europe commitments, notably:

21.1. the laws on higher education that should include accreditation and financing at state level;

21.2. the State level law on primary and secondary education with a view to ending ethnic segregation in schools;

21.3. the by-laws on a sustainable public broadcasting service;

21.4. the police reform, in accordance with the three principles set by the EU Commission;

21.5. the local government reforms, notably in the Federation, and the reunification of Mostar;

21.6. the laws needed for an effective protection of the rights of all minorities;

21.7. the creation of a state-level supreme court to enhance the reform of the judiciary.

Internet prezentacija Savjeta Evrope

http://jastreb.blogger.ba/


gdje su sada??

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Post by clan2 » 28/06/2006 06:04

gdje su sada??

u BanjaLuci, prizivaju "andjele" upomoc :" SULJO ! SULJO ! SULJO ! SULJO ! (SSSS)

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Post by novel » 28/06/2006 06:16

The Assembly expects the political leaders who will emerge from the next elections to finally go beyond sectarian political divides and to put the interests of citizens first. It will not be possible to continue simply creating further layers of bureaucracy at the State level in addition to the multiple bureaucracies at the lower level; in particular, the situation in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina with its 10 cantons will have to be addressed as soon as possible.

As a second step the Assembly therefore urges the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina, by October 2010 at the latest, to draft and adopt a new Constitution.


17. Although it would probably not be realistic to expect that BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA move quickly from a system based on ethnic representation to a system based on representation of citizens, drafting a completely new Constitution would certainly in the long run be preferable to trying to improve the Dayton one.

hebote mozda nas i natjeraju da sebi "napravimo drzavu" ako nas "nasi" opet ne zahebu......kako ce ova rezolucije S.E uticati na izbore??? 8-)

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Post by novel » 28/06/2006 06:19

Zajedničko saopćenje Dragana Čavića i Milorada Dodika


Ovakva rezolucija dovodi u pitanje i BiH


Ovo je izlobirani i naručenidokument koji može biti poguban za stabilnost i budućnost države, smatraju Dodik i Čavić

Predsjednik Republike Srpske Dragan Čavić i predsjednik Vlade RS Milorad Dodik upozorili su jučer da prijedlog rezolucije Monitoring komiteta Parlamentarne skupštine Vijeća Evrope, o kome će biti raspravljano u Strazburu, predstavlja izlobirani i naručeni dokument poguban za stabilnost i budućnost BiH.
U zajedničkom saopćenju Čavić i Dodik ističu da će, ukoliko Parlamentarna skupština Vijeća Evrope usvoji ovu rezoluciju, ona predstavljati direktnu podršku političkim snagama u BiH koje žele unitarnu državu s majorizacijom najmnogobrojnijeg bošnjačkog naroda nad ostalima.

Opasan presedan

- Dio sadržaja nacrta ove rezolucije, a posebno u tačkama 18, 20, 20.1, 20.2, 20.3 i 20.4 predstavlja otvorenu preporuku ukidanja Dejtonskog mirovnog sporazuma i temeljnog entitetskog ustavnog poretka, čime se čini opasan presedan i direktno podržavaju protivnici dogovorenog sporazuma o promjeni Ustava BiH - ističu Čavić i Dodik, prenosi Srna.
U saopćenju se upozorava da preporuka ukidanja dejtonskih temelja, na kojima je građena unutrašnja stabilnost BiH, predstavlja povratak unazad i svjestan ili nesvjestan podsticaj rušenja svega pozitivnog što je do sada postignuto.

Neizbježna realnost

Čavić i Dodik ističu da sa stanovišta RS, ovakve preporuke kojima se otvoreno postavlja pitanje postojanja BiH, utemeljene na entitetskom ustavnom uređenju i Dejtonskom mirovnom sporazumu, istovremeno znače i postavljanje pitanja postojanja BiH uopće.
- Za nas, institucije RS i stranke koje vodimo, poziv na rušenje dejtonskog entitetskog uređenja, ma odakle dolazio, istovremeno predstavlja i poziv za ukidanje dejtonske države BiH, a u takvim okolnostima zahtjev svakog konstitutivnog naroda za vlastitu odluku o vlastitoj budućnosti dolazi kao neizbježna realnost - naglašavaju Čavić i Dodik.

Moguća i teška regionalna kriza

Predsjednik i premijer RS ističu da ne žele rušiti temelje Dejtonskog mirovnog sporazuma, ali da će, ukoliko do toga dođe mimo volje jednog od konstitutivnih naroda, biti prouzrokovana teška unutrašnja i regionalna kriza s jednakom opasnošću od unitarizacije i dezintegracije BiH.

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Post by novel » 28/06/2006 06:23

biti prouzrokovana teška unutrašnja i regionalna kriza s jednakom opasnošću od unitarizacije i dezintegracije BiH.
"....Muslimanski narod u nestanak"

dejtonske države BiH
:D cuj gdje sam to ja zivjeo prije dejtona :oops: :D

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Post by clan2 » 28/06/2006 06:31

SULJO ! SULJO ! SULJO ! SULJO ! (SSSS)

otadzbina zove junake svoje!

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Post by kojsino » 28/06/2006 08:25

Clan 2 , vice svog jarana Sulju, da popiju koju onako s nogu..

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Post by boric » 28/06/2006 15:43

kojsino wrote:Clan 2 , vice svog jarana Sulju, da popiju koju onako s nogu..


kojsino,suljo je isto borac za bosansko-hercegovacku naciju,pa ti sad vidi ciji je kolega.

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Post by kojsino » 28/06/2006 15:57

Ti si to nesto pomijesao,
valjda zbog ove vrucine....

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Post by Jastreb35 » 29/06/2006 18:06

Iako uz odredjene izmjene, rezolucija je uspjesno prosla debatu skupstine Vijeca Evrope. Prijedlog o razmatranju potrebe za tri sluzbena jezika je izbacen, ali su ostale sljedece vazne instrukcije :

-to eliminate at least the entity voting in the House of Representatives

-to define more precisely the vital national interest and the related veto mechanism

-the Assembly therefore urges the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina by October 2010 at the latest, to draft and adopt a new Constitution in order to:

1. replace the mechanisms of ethnic representation by representation based on the civic principle

2. review the territorial organisation of the State and its division into entities, cantons and municipalitie


Ovo ima presudan znacaj za buducnost BiH, a pored drzave, politicku korist ce vidjeti Silajdzic i buntovnik Zilic. Interesantna bi trebala biti reakcija Tihica i Lagumdzije na potez Savjeta Evrope, jer je ocigledno da ustupci u vezi s entitetskim glasanjem ipak nisu bili potrebni.

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