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#1 Sarajevo u svjetskim medijima

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Mislim da ne bi bilo lose, ako se ne kosi sa politikom sarajevo-x, da ovdje prenosimo clanke i video clip-ove o nasem gradu iz svjetskih medija; da imamo neku ideju kako nas drugi vide i sta cuju o nama. Ako ovo nije "appropriate" tema, unaprijed se ispricavam adminima.

Danas je aktuelno otkazivanje koncerta Iggy Pop-a.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyle ... 3520080929

Iggy Pop cancels Sarajevo concert after violence
Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:12pm BST

SARAJEVO (Reuters Life!) - American punk icon Iggy Pop and his band The Stooges canceled an October 1 concert in Sarajevo over security fears after violence disrupted the Bosnian capital's first gay festival last week.
"The concert is canceled," Rajko Bogdanovic, an organizer, told Reuters on telephone. "The main reason lies in negative images that went out of Sarajevo in the past days."
The gay festival closed early after hooded men, some shouting Islamic slogans, attacked visitors on its opening night, injuring eight people. About 70 men, some shouting "God is greatest" in Arabic, dragged festival-goers from their cars and beat others in the streets on Wednesday.
Islamic papers and magazines had criticized the timing of the festival, organized during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Fans of two rival soccer clubs also clashed at the weekend in Sarajevo, damaging cars and buses and smashing windows of nearby bars. Several people were admitted to hospital.
"Sarajevo is still on the list of the world high-risk places," said Bogdanovic, the director of the Art Zone agency. He added that ticket sales were also poor.
The concert of Iggy Pop, known for his controversial performances, was scheduled on the second day of Eid-al-Fitr, the Islamic holiday that marks the end of the fasting month of Ramadan.
Sarajevo, known for centuries for the peaceful coexistence of Muslims, Christians and Jews, became a majority Muslim city after the 1992-95 war.

(Reporting by Daria Sito-Sucic, editing by Paul Casciato)
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Ko je ovaj mamlaz Bogdanovic?

Kakve ima veze sukob navijaca ili napadi na posjetioce festivala sa otkazivanjem koncerta?
Vadi se za slabu prodaju karata, koja naravno ima veze i sa marketingom za koji je vjerovatno on bio zaduzen.
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Malo je reci da je smijesno sto organizator navodi te razloge sto se otkazao koncert.To sto je lose radio na promociji i nije prodao dovoljno karata,pa se sad aizvlaci na ove price,dovoljno govori o kakvom se covjeku radi.
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koliko god ja ne odobravao događaje na queer festivalu i "bitku" na ciglanama...mislim da je ipak riječ o izvlakuši, i to ofirnoj.

bajram je, raja hoće veselo :mrgreen: :skoljka:
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Artzone prodao 600 karata..i ja bih bio iznerviran, i ja bih krivio vehabije :D
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mislim da su ovi radili one plesace iz irske..ovaj lik...glupost..bas bi ga otkazo da je prodao 15 hiljada karata
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a za temu iznad je zasto je prodao samo 600 :)
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Evo danas za sada sta sam nasao...

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview ... 9&rel_no=1

Sarajevo Queer Festival Hacked Online
A first-hand account of cyber homophobia
By Ida Grandas (jezaky)

OhmyNews.com
Published 2008-10-01 10:58

Some weeks ago, I got an invitation to join the "Queer Sarajevo Festivalu" on Facebook. On the page of the group, it said that the festival had the aim to make the festival symbolizing a free space based on principles of self-defining, self-identity, individuality, and freedom of choice. It should expose the connection between various forms of violence and discrimination, as well as the necessity and potential for a queer movement to prompt change and achieve respect of human rights for all. I immediately joined the group but sadly declined an invitation to the festival.

I first got in touch with the NGO "Q" when I lived in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 2005. Already my first evening in Bosnia, I was watching a talk show with my host family where the people were discussing how sick homosexuality was. After that, I found Q, the only group working for HBT rights in the country at that time. I started to exchange emails with Svetlana Djurkovic, the founder of the NGO. She was often updating me on discriminating statements that politicians had made against HBT-persons.

When I returned to Bosnia and Herzegovina in the summer of 2006, I found a group of young people who have started to promote HBT rights in Tuzla. The group always did it secretly, putting up rainbow-coloured stripes in the town during the nights and held secret queer parties in a club where one of their friends was working. I enjoyed witnessing how the movement was spreading.

When I found out about the queer festival in Sarajevo, I thought that things really have moved forward. Starting on Sept. 24 and continuing for five days, the festival was to be the first queer festival in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The donors to the festival, the Dutch, Canadian and Swiss Embassies, Global Found for Women, and Heart and Hand Found, also showed that the festival had a big support.

But then, worrying reports started to show up. On Sept. 5, OSCE, published a press release about how religious and political leaders had expressed intolerance in media, particularly on Q. The release also told about how posters had been appearing in and around Sarajevo intended to use violence, reading "death to homos."

On Sept. 18, Amnesty International wrote that media outlets and other religious leaders in Sarajevo had called for the organizers of the festival to be "lynched, stoned doused with petrol or expelled from the country."

Then, finally on Sept. 24, the festival was to open. But the threats of violence became reality. Anti-gay protesters attacked participants as they were leaving the opening ceremony held at the Academy of Fine Arts. According to BBC, eight participants were injured. The violence led the organizers to halt the festival, afraid of not being able to assure the security of the participants.

The violence is not yet over. AFP has reported that three radio stations and an independent weekly magazine have received threat letters for reports on the festival. One of the leading Bosnian daily newspapers, Dnevni Avaz, published the full name and date of birth of all the participants who were injured and taken to hospital.

When chatting to a Bosnian friend about the event the other day, I tried to access the forum on Q's Web site. My friend kept on telling me what horrible comments where on the almost 50 pages long discussion on the festival. I wanted to read by myself, but for some reason I couldn't access the page. The next morning, I got an email from my friend. She had been continuing reading on the forum when she was suddenly logged out. When she logged on again, she discovered that some topics were missing. And then, suddenly, the whole discussion was gone. The forum was hacked and only threatening message against homosexuals was left.

My friend tried to write a new comment, saying how outrageous what they were doing was. But it got automatically changed, and her comment ended up being "Bosnia is the mother of Bosniacs, not gays!"
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europeanvoice.com



Home > Policies > Foreign affairs > Enlargement
Out, but soon underground
By Tihomir Loza
01.10.2008 / 10:26 CET
Bosnia's first attempt at a Gay Pride festival brought the lurking intolerance in Sarajevo out violently onto its streets.

Bosnia was due to hold first Gay Pride festival last week. It never happened. Instead, what Sarajevo witnessed on 24 September were scenes of violence on what should have been the opening night, with football hooligans and members of Bosnia's growing community of followers of the austere Wahhabi form of Islam leading the fight. Ten people were injured, among them two prominent journalists.

Tensions had been mounting for weeks. Two Islamic leaders publicly condemned the gathering. Various other groups as well as countless ordinary members of the public found it necessary to voice their disapproval. Posters calling for “death to faggots” appeared on the streets of Bosnia's capital. Journalists were threatened for merely daring to write about the forthcoming event. There was an avalanche of hate speech on Internet forums, with members of the Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) diaspora proving most vocal. Lamenting his fate, which condemns him to a life in the United States, where “being a homo is seen as completely normal,” an American Bosniak asks: “So, now I should accept that even in our Bosnia?! No way!”
The politics of intolerance

If the festival was a test of the commitment of Bosnia's politicians to the rule of law, tolerance and social inclusiveness, they failed. With the exception of two liberal multiethnic parties, the rest of the political scene either remained silent or expressed its disapproval.

While not denying that gay people were under Bosnia's laws free to organise their events, politicians from the two biggest Muslim parties repeatedly expressed sympathy with opponents of the event. The more enlightened among them said Bosnia was not yet ready for such events and most choose to draw public attention to the timing: the festival was to take place during the holy month of Ramadan, which, they said, made the whole thing even more insulting to the Muslims.

Most Bosnian Serb and Croat politicians refrained from comment, but the few who did reassured anyone who doubted it that agreement among the country's three ethnic groups was indeed possible, if only on the rights (or lack of them) of sexual minorities. “It is unnatural, sick and deviant behaviour," said a high-ranking Bosnian Serb politician.

At times, it almost felt as if much of Bosnian society had conspired to create, by commission or omission, a lynch-mob atmosphere.

Which is not to say that the policemen ordered to secure the opening event faced an impossible mission. Despite the threats, some 300 people actually showed up for the event, many simply to demonstrate their solidarity with the gay communities. Some 30 football hooligans and perhaps up to 50 Wahhabis also made their way toward the area, with no obvious sign of co-ordination between the two groups. The strong police forces deployed to secure the event focused almost entirely on the easiest part of the job, denying the Wahhabis entry into the site of the opening, the Academy of Fine Arts. When the participants started to leave later on, they became easy prey for the anti-gay thugs, since very few policemen were deployed in nearby streets. Those policemen who happened to be on those streets intervened half-heartedly, as if they were protecting people who were not really worthy of protection.

The behaviour of Bosnian politicians may have been partly determined by timing: local elections will be held on 5 October. It goes without saying that most would have regarded any situation casting them as even remotely gay-friendly as a certain vote-loser. While the anecdotal evidence leaves little doubt that this reading of the public mood was correct, they may not have judged the law correctly. The events surrounding the festival suggest there are various types of possible criminal responsibility that should be investigated. Apart from the attacks themselves, there were numerous, publicly recorded instances of hate speech and incitement to violence. There was also a blatant failure of Bosnian institutions to enforce the rule of law on the opening night.

In most democratic countries, an incident like this would have ended the careers of the interior minister and a few police chiefs. While it is very unlikely that anyone will resign in Bosnia, the international community now must put pressure on the country's prosecutors to launch criminal investigations.
What is different about Bosnia?

Bosnia is, of course, no exception in the region when it comes to the treatment of sexual minorities. Gay gatherings in neighbouring Serbia and Croatia have often been disrupted by thugs, while lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual (LGBT) communities in some other Balkan countries have never even bothered to organise very public events for fear of persecution.

Yet, many felt the tensions over the Sarajevo festival were of a significantly greater magnitude than those generated by similar events in Zagreb and Belgrade in recent years. The whole atmosphere had been unmistakably sinister for weeks, with the few liberal media outlets and human-rights organisations that dared to speak out in support of the festival finding themselves completely out-shouted. So, what is different in Bosnia?

The country's civil society is certainly somewhat weaker than in Croatia and Serbia, neither of which can boast much strength on that front. That is perhaps because much of Bosnia's educated middle classes left the country in the 1990s; many no longer have a meaningful connection with the country. While civil-society organisations and many worthy individuals have invested energy and time into spreading civic values since the 1992-5 war, there is often a sense that a critical mass of willing individuals required to shape these efforts into an effective civil society is missing.

The same brain-drain has resulted in a less sophisticated political class. While most homophobic politicians in Croatia and Serbia have by now learnt simply to shut up, their Bosnian counterparts cannot help expressing their revulsion. For instance, the Party for Bosnia-Herzegovina of the current chairman of Bosnia's tripartite residency, Haris Silajdzic, said in a statement: “The time, place and manner of the festival is utterly condemnable.”

There is also the question whether intolerance of today's Sarajevo has anything to do with what is often seen as an increasing Islamisation of public life. It does, inasmuch as the process of Islamisation is dominated by conservative demagogues intent on exploiting the Bosnian Muslims' suffering in the 1990s for their own ends, which often happily combine ethnic nationalism with financial greed. This has resulted in a society loudly observant of most visible forms of religion, though not necessarily of some finer Islamic moral norms. While for the most part the Serbs and Croats who remain in the city are left alone, with many leading relatively normal lives, there have often been outbursts of intolerance toward less traditional minority groups, such as LGBT communities or followers of Hare Krishna.

The increasing influence of Wahhabi groups is an important new element in Bosnia's post-war equation. While still largely disdained by the Bosnian Muslim majority, there is little doubt that Wahhabi groups have enjoyed a degree of protection from the official Islamic authorities and Bosniak nationalist politicians, who have long been suspected of using the presence of Islamic radicals to cast themselves as irreplaceable occupiers of the middle ground. But while until a few years ago there was a sense that mainstream politicians and religious leaders had an overview, if not direct control, of developments inside the radical circles, some traditional Islamic scholars fear the radicals will soon become uncontrollable.

Perhaps the Wahhabis' violent disruption of the LGBT festival offered a glimpse of that uncontrollability. When asked in early September what the official Islamic Community would do regarding the festival, an influential imam said: “We will not grab them by the neck on the street, but we have to say: This is immoral ... a promotion of ideas that are incompatible with religion.” But the Wahhabis nevertheless grabbed necks.
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Her Flick wrote:
govnar.smrti wrote:Mislim da ne bi bilo lose, ako se ne kosi sa politikom sarajevo-x, da ovdje prenosimo clanke i video clip-ove o nasem gradu iz svjetskih medija; da imamo neku ideju kako nas drugi vide i sta cuju o nama. Ako ovo nije "appropriate" tema, unaprijed se ispricavam adminima.

Danas je aktuelno otkazivanje koncerta Iggy Pop-a.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyle ... 3520080929

Iggy Pop cancels Sarajevo concert after violence
Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:12pm BST

SARAJEVO (Reuters Life!) - American punk icon Iggy Pop and his band The Stooges canceled an October 1 concert in Sarajevo over security fears after violence disrupted the Bosnian capital's first gay festival last week.
"The concert is canceled," Rajko Bogdanovic, an organizer, told Reuters on telephone. "The main reason lies in negative images that went out of Sarajevo in the past days."
The gay festival closed early after hooded men, some shouting Islamic slogans, attacked visitors on its opening night, injuring eight people. About 70 men, some shouting "God is greatest" in Arabic, dragged festival-goers from their cars and beat others in the streets on Wednesday.
Islamic papers and magazines had criticized the timing of the festival, organized during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Fans of two rival soccer clubs also clashed at the weekend in Sarajevo, damaging cars and buses and smashing windows of nearby bars. Several people were admitted to hospital.
"Sarajevo is still on the list of the world high-risk places," said Bogdanovic, the director of the Art Zone agency. He added that ticket sales were also poor.
The concert of Iggy Pop, known for his controversial performances, was scheduled on the second day of Eid-al-Fitr, the Islamic holiday that marks the end of the fasting month of Ramadan.
Sarajevo, known for centuries for the peaceful coexistence of Muslims, Christians and Jews, became a majority Muslim city after the 1992-95 war.

(Reporting by Daria Sito-Sucic, editing by Paul Casciato)

sve mi je jasno
jesi li to po svom obicaju i moralu nastavio osudjivat ljude zbog njihovog imena?
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Her Flick wrote:da da
i sta cemo sada

jesi li ti fakat nasjeo na pricu da Iggy otkazuje zbog bradatih spodoba
Niko u SA nije nasjeo na pricu o otkazivanju koncerta zbog bradatih spodoba, ali jesu mediji u inostranstvu.
To je dovoljno.
Enjoy Bosnia.
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kakve su ovo gluposti majko moja i koji su ovo dopisnici za strane medije kad ovako izvjestavaju... mislim ocita propaganda ljudi koji ne misle dobro ovoj drzavi... totalno jadno... cuj sigurnosna situacija... na sta se sve nece izvlaciti...
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ART ZONE je spašavao svoj obraz na račun obraza grada sarajeva!

e tu mu sarajlije ne bi smjele zaboraviti...
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Jest Tihomir Loza pogotovo nema pojma ni o cemu :lol:
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pa sto ne napadate onda Avaz koji je istu izjavu istog direktora prenio, sad su vam i dopisnici krivi, ceo svet se urotio, jel?
Zaustavite Reuters, sto bi rekao Sloba il neko od njegovih pocetkom 90ih.

ako ovo i jest manipulacija, ko je dao stofa manipulatorima?
zbog koga se ovih dana u zgradi vlade RS i hacijendi u Laktasima cuje grohotan smijeh?

zbog policije koja nije bila u stanju sprijeciti stotinjak ljudi od kojih su dominirali huligani da napadnu goste izlozbe
zbog njihovih sefova, policijskih i politickih koji im nisu dali naredbu da to sprijece
zbog medija koji su ih na to nahuskali govorom mrznje
ili zbog novinara koji prenose fotografije i izjave

pa da prihvatimo i teoriju zavjere da su to sve srbi organizovali,
jesmo li mi trebali biti toliko glupi pa na to nasjest?

koliko god ovo bila izvlakaca od Art Zone ili kako li se vec zovu, mislite li da Iggy Pop nije cuo za napade i da on medju svojim prijateljima i rodbinom nema gay ljudi i da mu je svejedno? Pa sto ga onda Avaz ne trazi za izjavu na tu temu, imali su njegove izjave dok su najavljivali koncert, nek se i to rascisti jednom. Nije u nekoj guzvi, danas ima day off.
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shuriken wrote:pa sto ne napadate onda Avaz koji je istu izjavu istog direktora prenio, sad su vam i dopisnici krivi, ceo svet se urotio, jel?
Zaustavite Reuters, sto bi rekao Sloba il neko od njegovih pocetkom 90ih.

ako ovo i jest manipulacija, ko je dao stofa manipulatorima?
zbog koga se ovih dana u zgradi vlade RS i hacijendi u Laktasima cuje grohotan smijeh?

zbog policije koja nije bila u stanju sprijeciti stotinjak ljudi od kojih su dominirali huligani da napadnu goste izlozbe
zbog njihovih sefova, policijskih i politickih koji im nisu dali naredbu da to sprijece
zbog medija koji su ih na to nahuskali govorom mrznje
ili zbog novinara koji prenose fotografije i izjave

pa da prihvatimo i teoriju zavjere da su to sve srbi organizovali,
jesmo li mi trebali biti toliko glupi pa na to nasjest?

koliko god ovo bila izvlakaca od Art Zone ili kako li se vec zovu, mislite li da Iggy Pop nije cuo za napade i da on medju svojim prijateljima i rodbinom nema gay ljudi i da mu je svejedno? Pa sto ga onda Avaz ne trazi za izjavu na tu temu, imali su njegove izjave dok su najavljivali koncert, nek se i to rascisti jednom. Nije u nekoj guzvi, danas ima day off.
a sto se brinete toliko oko tog otkazivanja gay parade...pa i u Bg je otkazana uz mnogo gore i vce posljedice za pedere, pa opet ljudi ce izgleda prije nas u evropu kako je krenulo.....
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neshto wrote:ART ZONE je spašavao svoj obraz na račun obraza grada sarajeva!

e tu mu sarajlije ne bi smjele zaboraviti...
E zato ce organizovat neki koncert strane zvijezde u Sarajevu, al u q... Sami su sebi skocili u stomak.
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Sarajevska kristalna noć. Italijanski portal koji prati zbivanja na Balkanu.
http://www.osservatoriobalcani.org/arti ... 0225/1/51/
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Her Flick wrote:
zgembo_sa wrote:
neshto wrote:ART ZONE je spašavao svoj obraz na račun obraza grada sarajeva!

e tu mu sarajlije ne bi smjele zaboraviti...
E zato ce organizovat neki koncert strane zvijezde u Sarajevu, al u q... Sami su sebi skocili u stomak.

uh nemoj da mi takvi spasavaju obraz, ako ikako moze

zgembo de se objasni, cime su sami sebi skocili u stomak
Pa valjda im je posao organizovanje tih koncerata. Ako sami stvaraju sliku u medijima da u Sarajevu ne postoje sigurnosni uslovi za odrzavanje koncerata, nije li to upravo to skakanje u stomak? Ko ce im slijedeci povjeriti organizaciju koncerta. Ne samo da su nesposobni, vec je i sigurnosna situacija "strasna" :)
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Nervira me kako se to odmah interpretira Sarajevo ovakvo, onakvo.

Pa nek gospoda u Austriji zaustave onog Hajdera, Naciste vodi Himlerova kcerka cini mi se.

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Zasto uvijek ta opsjednutost sta drugi misle o nama? Nije li to dio jednog najobicnijeg mahalsko-malogradjansko-vazalskog mentaliteta koji se uvijek odlikovao osjecajem neke nize vrijednosti prema "naprednom" zapadu i zeljom da se prikaze "normativan"? Zbog cega treba da me interesuje sta ce reci komsija, sta ce reci mahala, sta ce reci svijet? Sve uciniti da se prikazemo u "najboljem" svjetlu, a na svoje najvaznije vrijednosti, ili vrijednosti koje bi trebale biti najvaznije, kao sto je npr. individualna sloboda zaoravljamo upravo iz straha da nas drugi ne osude ? U tome i lezi korijen nase nesposobnosti da se odvojimo od nekog tzv. tradicionalizma. U tome je i korijen grupnog indentiteta koji nas gusi i kojem se povinujemo. Strah od oca, strah od nacije, strah od Tita i od svijeta...biti dobar i poslusan da bi beg udijelio mrvu hljeba. Subjekti interpelacije od koje se nemoguce odvojiti. Kako promjeniti autoritativni mentalitet zbog kojeg ne mozemo dalje?
Ovo sto se na zalost dogodilo u Sarajevu je katastrofa ali u isto vrijeme nesto jako pozitivno. Pozitivno jer ukazuje kakvo je stanje individualnih sloboda kod nas i jer pokazuje da postoje tendencije ka izdizanju individualnog iznad kolektivnog. To je mozda jedna vazna pukotina grupnog totalitarizma, slicna onoj pukotini koja je dovela do demokratije i liberalizma u zapadnom drustvu kad je Kopernik objavio "De revolutionibus orbium coelestium" ili filmski prikazano u Kumu kad Vito Korleone odbija dogovor sa Solozom (Turk) a Soni Korleone pokazuje interes krseci autoritet svoga oca.

Eto i ja malo da pametujem
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Edin H. wrote:Ko je ovaj mamlaz Bogdanovic?

Kakve ima veze sukob navijaca ili napadi na posjetioce festivala sa otkazivanjem koncerta?
Vadi se za slabu prodaju karata, koja naravno ima veze i sa marketingom za koji je vjerovatno on bio zaduzen.
drugim riječima afera pavaroti vol.2
znači kaže 1500 ulaznica su prodali (ako su uopšte i toliko) u zetru koja može primiti 16000ljudi čak i više
1500X25KM=37500KM solidna suma
naravno on hoće da skrene priču o povratu novca
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#24 Re: Sarajevo u svjetskim medijima

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Budala wrote:Zasto uvijek ta opsjednutost sta drugi misle o nama? Nije li to dio jednog najobicnijeg mahalsko-malogradjansko-vazalskog mentaliteta koji se uvijek odlikovao osjecajem neke nize vrijednosti prema "naprednom" zapadu i zeljom da se prikaze "normativan"?
Apsolutno se slazem. Zaista ne razumijem ljude, a ima ih prilican broj, kojima je izuzetno bitno kako ce nas BBC, CNN ili bilo koje druge medijske kuce, novine prikazati svugdje u svijetu. Kakvi su vam to kompleksi, o cemu pricamo ljudi. Vama je bitno sto ce neko, kome ste '92-95 bili vijest prije sporta i vremenske prognoze, vijest nekome ko ne zna ni gjde je Bosna, misliti o Bosni. Ma boli me neka stvar, nadjite mi savrsenu zemlju, a ja cu vam naci 10x gore primjere koji se desavaju u tim zemljama, pa ih niko ne naziva fasistickim niti pljuje po njima. Jel Austrija fasisticka sto bolesnik 25 godina siluje svoju kcer? E to je vasa logika.
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#25 Re: Sarajevo u svjetskim medijima

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Pa mene interesuje kakava slika grada i drzave odlazi u svijet, pogotovo kada zavisimo toliko o tom svijetu (od referenduma za nezavisnost na ovamo) i tezimo da budemo dio tog svijeta. Toliko seremo kolektivno o medjunardonoj zajednici, a potpuno smo ovisni o njima. Bosna postoji u ovim granicama jer je medjunarodna zajednica odrzava na life support. Koliko puta smo samo ismijavili idiote po americkim i evropskim gradovima koji nisu znali naci Bosnu na mapi, a sada nas ko zaboli za njihovo misljenje...

Na kraju krajeva, ako vas ne interesuje kako se o Sarajevu pise u drugim medijima, jednostavno ignorirajte ovaj topic i nadjite nesto pametnije za raditi.
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