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#57751 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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bingov buraz wrote:
Tyke wrote:Treba Susica nakaciti na WiFi i regovati na forum, imao bi sta nauciti.
aha,i sta bi ovi pljuvaci htjeli da Pape obuje kopacke i zabije ko onomad Argentini a mi dobrih igraca i nemamo tako da za ovu sicu od plate i ne mozemo dovesti boljeg.

Mislim da smo obuhvatili sve :mrgreen:
a pritom uštedi savezu najmanje 100 000 što svaki put zove 10 tak igrača manje nego je normalno,a i vhs je puno jeftiniji od putovanja i uživo gledanja igrača i protivnika :mrgreen:
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#57752 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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FreakyStyley wrote:Da li 100% igra Spahic? Jel to potvrdjeno?
Dosao je, sad vjerovatno ce i igrati....ako ga chuna ne zaboli

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http://zenicablog.com/zenica/zabava/ite ... -kafi.html

Dakle, jedno je sigurno - jutrosnjeg treninga nije bilo. A sta ce i trenirati, citav zivot treniraju, ako se dosad nisu natrenirali, nece ni ovo malo vremena do nedjelje. Bolje da se ovako opusCaju u ovoj ambijentalnosti i miru kafica u centru Zenice.
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#57753 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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incognito071 wrote:Mislim da ce vrrrrrliiiii strucnjak ipak ovako poceti, s tim da ce igrati Hadzic (a ne Bicakcic) i Kvrzic (a ne Visca)

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opet problemi po lijevoj strani kao da gledam :oops:
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#57755 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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bingov buraz wrote:
Tyke wrote:Treba Susica nakaciti na WiFi i regovati na forum, imao bi sta nauciti.
aha,i sta bi ovi pljuvaci htjeli da Pape obuje kopacke i zabije ko onomad Argentini a mi dobrih igraca i nemamo tako da za ovu sicu od plate i ne mozemo dovesti boljeg.

Mislim da smo obuhvatili sve :mrgreen:
Ma registrovati ga na forum samo zbog gore navedene formacije, meni se djasvi. :D
Ionako ne mi imao volje citati hiljade identicnih komentara, povuci-potegni. Mozda bi ga otjerali sa klupe silni epiteti koje nije zavrijedio ni sam Hitler za vrijeme ovodunjaluckog mandata. :D
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Vaha se sepurio ko paun nakon svjetskog i dizao sebi cijenu jer mu se moglo,imao je rezultat,nakon otkaza u Trabzonu red bi bio da i on smanji ocekivanja,nije vise najvruca roba na trzistu i Susiceva plata bi mu trebala biti plafon.
Sumnjam u svakom slucaju da ce on i postati selektor kad ovog hajrom ispratimo,ne znam sta je sa Bajevicem,zeli li se uopste baviti vise tim poslom ali mislim da bi on bio najbolji za gasenje pozara.
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#57757 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/11/ ... qualifying
Safet Sušić has made a mess of the Bosnian national team

Edin Džeko's injury further illustrates how the Zmajevi coach is leading a once-promising team into the abyss.




Prior to the start of their first-ever World Cup finals, the Bosnia and Herzegovina national team were attracting plenty of praise. Some found the narrative appealing -- a country that had been at war less than 20 years previously was now on its way to Brazil. But others focused on the football. Safet Sušić had his Zmajevi playing in an attractive, attacking manner. In qualifying, they'd finished even on points with Greece, but with a plus-25 goal advantage, they secured a spot in the finals.

But in Brazil, Sušić lost his mettle. After approaching the first game against Argentina with the same attacking mentality, the coach started to get ... creative. That's a polite way of stating what most fans were thinking, which is that Sušić had more or less lost his mind. The formation shifted, quality players were left on the bench, and others were played out of position. Despite their initial promise, Bosnia were eliminated after two matches.

Fast-forward six months. Despite the frustration of fans -- and murmurings in the dressing room -- Sušić remains in charge of the national team. Yet discontent is the least of the Zmajevi's worries. With just two points from three matches, Bosnia sit second from bottom in their Euro 2016 qualifying group. Absent a radical shift, this team won't be qualifying for their first ever European Championships.

Bosnia prepare to head to Israel a shadow of their former selves. Sead Kolašinac, Sejad Salihović, and Vedad Ibišević were all injured prior to the squad announcement for the Israel match, while Tino-Sven Sušić and Edin Džeko both were forced to pull out due to injury. Recent news suggests goalkeeper Asmir Begović may not be fit, either.

Despite their place in Group B, despite the injury crisis, Sušić still refuses to alter his approach. Ibišević was ruled out back in October after he fractured his foot, yet the manager refused to add another forward to his list, calling only Džeko for the Israel match. The plan backfired, as the Manchester City man picked up an injury at the weekend, and will not be available for the national team.

It's what happened after Džeko's knock that truly encapsulates the crisis Bosnia's coach has brought upon the side. When learning of the injury, Sušić said, "If he can't play, we should make peace with the fact that it's going to be very hard to win in Israel. We will try to win, but we're going there to try not to lose."

Bosnia are languishing in fifth, and yet the coach has given up hope of all three points before the game even begins. What's worse, after Džeko was officially ruled out of the squad, Sušić chose to replace him not with a target man, but with Rijeka winger Zoran Kvržić, a 26-year-old with a mere two caps.

Yet alternative strikers do exist. Milan Đurić, who previously played for the Bosnia Under-21s, scored for Cesena last weekend, and has a style of play that bears remarkable resemblance to that of Džeko. Aidin Mahmutović has never been capped for Bosnia, but is now back from a year-long injury and has already scored six goals for Teplice in the Czech Premier League.

Sušić, though, does not like to tread into the unknown. He has already acknowledged that he prefers the players that lead Bosnia to their first World Cup appearance, leading him to rarely look outside that group -- despite the large number out with injury.

It appears the coach suffers from delusions of grandeur as well. When asked about a lack of strikers in the team, Sušić said, "Barcelona zna ponekad igrati bez klasičnog napadača, a itekako su ofanzivni. Bayern isto tako igra sa jednim napadačem itd." In other words, Bosnia doesn't need a striker, because Barcelona manage to score a lot of goals without one. And Bayern, too, plays with just one forward.

Bosnia play Israel on Sunday, November 16. But even if they fail to transform into Barcelona or Bayern upon arrival in Haifa, it's unlikely anything will change. There's no plan in place and no money available to replace the coach. And it's become blindingly obvious that Sušić himself will not deviate from his script.
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#57758 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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Tyke wrote:
bingov buraz wrote:
Tyke wrote:Treba Susica nakaciti na WiFi i regovati na forum, imao bi sta nauciti.
aha,i sta bi ovi pljuvaci htjeli da Pape obuje kopacke i zabije ko onomad Argentini a mi dobrih igraca i nemamo tako da za ovu sicu od plate i ne mozemo dovesti boljeg.

Mislim da smo obuhvatili sve :mrgreen:
Ma registrovati ga na forum samo zbog gore navedene formacije, meni se djasvi. :D
Ionako ne mi imao volje citati hiljade identicnih komentara, povuci-potegni. Mozda bi ga otjerali sa klupe silni epiteti koje nije zavrijedio ni sam Hitler za vrijeme ovodunjaluckog mandata. :D
Ne bi on dao otkaz iz 900 000 razloga.Ne bi ni ja doduse al se ja ne furam da sam trenerska velicina :mrgreen:
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#57759 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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prateći Papketovu logiku očekujem ovo:

------------------Begović----------------------

----------Šunjić--Spahić--Hadžić---------------
Mujdža-----------------------------Lulić
---------------------Bešić------------------------
---------Pjanić-----------Medunjanin----------
--------Hajrović---------Višća-------------------


jer Papke is football genius! :bih:
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bingov buraz wrote:Vaha se sepurio ko paun nakon svjetskog i dizao sebi cijenu jer mu se moglo,imao je rezultat,nakon otkaza u Trabzonu red bi bio da i on smanji ocekivanja,nije vise najvruca roba na trzistu i Susiceva plata bi mu trebala biti plafon.
Sumnjam u svakom slucaju da ce on i postati selektor kad ovog hajrom ispratimo,ne znam sta je sa Bajevicem,zeli li se uopste baviti vise tim poslom ali mislim da bi on bio najbolji za gasenje pozara.
Ma Vaha je sam sebe zajeb'o. Ko god je otisao u Tursku propao je, bio igrac ili trener. 90% ljudi koje tamo ode se zajebe. Na svjetskom je njegov Alzir, takticki gledano, najvise pokazao od svih drugih ekipa, sto je normalno za njega bio fantastican marketing. Zasluzeno.

Ja sam ubijedjen da bi Alzir prosao apsolutno svaku reprezentaciju osim Njemacke i mozda jos jedne-dvije ekipe. I njih su pojeli u prvom poluvremenu, da nije bilo Neuera koji je citavo prvensto igrao golmana, libera i stopera, Alzir bi izbacio Njemacku.

Onda Vaha nakon svjetskog odbije Milan (i ko zna jos koje klubove) i ode u Trabzon. Jebi ga. :oops: Doduse, citao sam da je on jos prije obecao nekome iz Trabzona da ce ih voditi, pa nije htio da pogazi rijec.

Ocito je da je covjeg svojeglav i ekscentrican, pa ne bira angarzmane onako kako bi se ocekivalo od njega, a i nije mu ovo prvi put da se zakaci s nekim u ekipi koju trenira. Jednostavno je takav. Ali ako nista to pokazuje da ima karakter i osobnost, o znanju ne treba ni govoriti. Ja sam ubijedjen da bi za nas Vaha fantastican bio. Da je savez kakav nije, vjerujem da bi pristao i on. To da nemamo para za njega su price za malu djecu. Da je sad 2004. i da nam je Baka selektor i povjerovao bih.
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JoseMujica wrote:prateći Papketovu logiku očekujem ovo:

------------------Begović----------------------

----------Šunjić--Spahić--Hadžić---------------
Mujdža-----------------------------Lulić
---------------------Bešić------------------------
---------Pjanić-----------Medunjanin----------
--------Hajrović---------Višća-------------------


jer Papke is football genius! :bih:
Igra Zoran umjesto Visce, vidjeces
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#57762 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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incognito071 wrote:
JoseMujica wrote:prateći Papketovu logiku očekujem ovo:

------------------Begović----------------------

----------Šunjić--Spahić--Hadžić---------------
Mujdža-----------------------------Lulić
---------------------Bešić------------------------
---------Pjanić-----------Medunjanin----------
--------Hajrović---------Višća-------------------


jer Papke is football genius! :bih:
Igra Zoran umjesto Visce, vidjeces
Da hoce bit potvrdjena ova formacija samo 10 minuta pred utakmicu, da uplatim 100 Km na Izrael 1/1, barem da se oparim u nedjelju, lakse cu podnijeti sve ovo onda :roll: :roll:
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A1fa wrote:
incognito071 wrote:
JoseMujica wrote:prateći Papketovu logiku očekujem ovo:

------------------Begović----------------------

----------Šunjić--Spahić--Hadžić---------------
Mujdža-----------------------------Lulić
---------------------Bešić------------------------
---------Pjanić-----------Medunjanin----------
--------Hajrović---------Višća-------------------


jer Papke is football genius! :bih:
Igra Zoran umjesto Visce, vidjeces
Da hoce bit potvrdjena ova formacija samo 10 minuta pred utakmicu, da uplatim 100 Km na Izrael 1/1, barem da se oparim u nedjelju, lakse cu podnijeti sve ovo onda :roll: :roll:
Sat vremena prije utakmice se MORA znati formacija u javnosti odnosno sastav koji ce igrati
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Ja nikad necu zaboraviti onaj sok kad je objavljen sastav za Nigeriju. Bio sam siguran da je u pitanju neka greska.

Nikad necu saznati zasto je to Pape uradio, mada, sumnjam na sujevjerje. Jedino bi neka tako bizarna i iracionalna stvar mogla objasniti onaj sastav i formaciju.
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Samo je pitanje koliko će Izrael zabiti golova.Pobjeda je neupitna :oops:
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#57766 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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House wrote:Samo je pitanje koliko će Izrael zabiti golova.Pobjeda je neupitna :oops:
Iskreno, ocekujem izdanje kao protiv Obale Slonovace pred SP u Brazilu, po igri sigurno a prizljkujem da tako bude i u rezultatu, iako mi nece biti drago sto selektoru necemo vidjeti ledja! Mi smo najnepredvidiviji narod pa tako i reprezentacija na svijetu!!!
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i poraz od 1 razlike ostavlja nas u borbi za cetvrto mjesto....
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hizo ramidovic wrote:i poraz od 1 razlike ostavlja nas u borbi za cetvrto mjesto....
A sta cemo sa 4.mjestom? uslikati i dati Safetu da je uokviri?
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phillie wrote:
hizo ramidovic wrote:i poraz od 1 razlike ostavlja nas u borbi za cetvrto mjesto....
A sta cemo sa 4.mjestom? uslikati i dati Safetu da je uokviri?
Gradimo tim za iduci ciklus. 8-)

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Naravno, na zdravim temeljima :D dinastije Susic...
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phillie wrote:
hizo ramidovic wrote:i poraz od 1 razlike ostavlja nas u borbi za cetvrto mjesto....
A sta cemo sa 4.mjestom? uslikati i dati Safetu da je uokviri?
necemo nista.
s obzirom kako nam je jaka grupa, u ovim kvalifikacijama je bitno da ne budemo zadnji ili predzadnji.
sve ostalo je ellhamdullilah...
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FreakyStyley wrote:
phillie wrote:
hizo ramidovic wrote:i poraz od 1 razlike ostavlja nas u borbi za cetvrto mjesto....
A sta cemo sa 4.mjestom? uslikati i dati Safetu da je uokviri?
Gradimo tim za iduci ciklus. 8-)

:D

mogli bi dobit i sponzora na dresovima: Germania Sportagentur :D taman ima sad jedno 7 mjesta da se popuni fino vaspitanim talentima jer Papke is football genius! :bih:
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#57773 Re: Safet Susic - Pape, selektor BiH

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hizo ramidovic wrote:
phillie wrote:
hizo ramidovic wrote:i poraz od 1 razlike ostavlja nas u borbi za cetvrto mjesto....
A sta cemo sa 4.mjestom? uslikati i dati Safetu da je uokviri?
necemo nista.
s obzirom kako nam je jaka grupa, u ovim kvalifikacijama je bitno da ne budemo zadnji ili predzadnji.
sve ostalo je ellhamdullilah...
hahhahaha i to sto kazes, ipak Andora ima puno konobara u svom sastavu, a zna se kako su oni hitri i fizicki pripremljeni (konobari)...mislim da ce to biti dvije "historijske" utakmice.
Zbog toga, vec danas nasi reprezentativci umjesto na trening, otisli su u "spijunazu" u jedan zenicki kafic, a tamosnji konobari ce im "glumiti" andorske velikane. Kakav Izrael, cuvajmo se Andore :D :D :D :D
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phillie wrote: hahhahaha i to sto kazes, ipak Andora ima puno konobara u svom sastavu, a zna se kako su oni hitri i fizicki pripremljeni (konobari)...mislim da ce to biti dvije "historijske" utakmice.
Zbog toga, vec danas nasi reprezentativci umjesto na trening, otisli su u "spijunazu" u jedan zenicki kafic, a tamosnji konobari se im "glumiti" andorske velikane. Kakav Izrael, cuvajmo se Andore :D :D :D :D
Prema mojim informacijama prvi stoper Andore na dan utakmice mora cuvat dijete (zena mu je druga smjena te sedmice) tako da imamo dobre sanse. Osim toga, taksista na lijevom beku je uvijek nocna, tako da nece biti odmoran za utakmicu protiv nas, daleko od toga. :wink:
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... eeeeh, treba se za cetvrto mjesto izborit, vratit izgubljene bodove protiv kipra, dobit andorcane ... ima toga
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